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Starr
10-24-2005, 04:44 AM
MARTINEZ, Calif. — A 16-year-old neighbor accused of killing the wife of a prominent defense attorney was charged as an adult Friday with murder and ordered held in lieu $1 million bail.

Scott Dyleski did not enter a plea or speak during his first court appearance since his arrest in the Oct. 15 beating death of Pamela Vitale (search), whose body was discovered by her husband at the couple's hilltop estate.

Vitale and her husband, defense lawyer and TV legal pundit Daniel Horowitz (search), were building their dream home in the wealthy suburb of Lafayette, about 20 miles east of San Francisco. Dyleski lived down the hill from them with his mother.

The San Francisco Chronicle, quoting unidentified law enforcement sources, reported in its Friday editions that the teen was running a credit-card scam and went to Horowitz and Vitale's estate trying to track down some marijuana-growing equipment he had ordered. The teen got in a fight with Vitale, who was hit dozens of times in the head with a piece of molding, the newspaper reported.

When the teen was arrested, he had scratches consistent with a violent struggle, the Chronicle reported, citing the sources. Horowitz has said his wife appeared to have fought her attacker.

Dyleski's arraignment was set for Thursday.

If convicted of murder as an adult, he could face up to life in prison; he is too young to face the death penalty (search).

Former classmates recalled Dyleski as a nonconformist who tested out of Acalanes High School early.

"He was really gothic, always wore a long, dark jacket," said Kevin Etheridge, 16. "He'd hang out with a few kids, but he was pretty quiet, pretty much to himself."

Another student remembered him drawing a pentagram on the ground with chalk in junior high school and dancing around it with other students. "He told people the book that he was carrying and reading from was the book of Satan," Keith Kingon said.

Yearbook photos of Dyleski show a transformation from fresh-faced middle schooler to brooding teenager with black-rimmed eyes. But while some former classmates described him as a morose oddball, others who know him insisted he was basically a good kid.

His stepfather, Glenn Hirschberger, described him as a "thoughtful, intelligent young man" incapable of the brutal attack on Vitale.

"Not Scott — absolutely not," Hirschberger, who was married to the boy's mother for about four years in the 1990s, told the Chronicle. "There's absolutely no way he'd be involved in anything like this. He's not a fighter. He's not a violent kid."

Horowitz has appeared on cable news networks as a legal commentator, including during the Scott Peterson murder trial.

Vitale, 52, worked part-time for her husband's law firm. She was buried Thursday in a private ceremony.

Does anyone else think this story is a little fishy? I admit to not paying attention to much of it. Why would this kid have "marijuana growing equipment" sent to that address, in particular? And there were supposedly a lot of people on that property that were involved in building the house,etc. but, yet nothing was ever mentioned about anyone hearing or seeing anything, and it is said this woman put up a major struggle.(this is something that might not get mentioned, as part of the investigation,etc, but these things usually seem to leak out somewhat in cases that are more high profile like this one.)

A satanist pot head/dealer. lol. I am not buying it.

Kodos
10-24-2005, 04:48 AM
Does anyone else think this story is a little fishy? I admit to not paying attention to much of it. Why would this kid have "marijuana growing equipment" sent to that address, in particular? And there were supposedly a lot of people on that property that were involved in building the house,etc. but, yet nothing was ever mentioned about anyone hearing or seeing anything, and it is said this woman put up a major struggle.(this is something that might not get mentioned, as part of the investigation,etc, but these things usually seem to leak out somewhat in cases that are more high profile like this one.)

A satanist pot head, lol. I am not buying it.

For once I agree with the anti semitic types... sounds like bullshit. Ill wait on the physical evidence but I lean towards Horowitz doing it or one of his clients.

Starr
10-25-2005, 09:19 PM
Interesting how the media is treating this as if it is case closed, as flimsy as it seems from what they say. They now seem to be moving on to shit like "what leads a young boy to commit such a henious crime"etc. I feel as if I sound like a broken record in saying this, but I wonder how much they would be showing this and talking about this "suspect" if he was some nigger gang-banger.

Jimbo Gomez
10-25-2005, 09:27 PM
Interesting how the media is treating this as if it is case closed, as flimsy as it seems from what they say. They now seem to be moving on to shit like "what leads a young boy to commit such a henious crime"etc. I feel as if I sound like a broken record in saying this, but I wonder how much they would be showing this and talking about this "suspect" if he was some nigger gang-banger.

How much effect does the media have there on juries?

Starr
10-25-2005, 09:31 PM
In a well known case like this, I would suspect a lot.

Felix the Cat
10-26-2005, 01:55 PM
The teen got in a fight with Vitale, who was hit dozens of times in the head with a piece of molding, the newspaper reported.
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daisy
10-29-2005, 05:39 AM
a satanist pot head/dealer.
i'm not buying it either starr.
an attorney's wife seems similiar to a school teacher.
wonder if the wife and the teen were having an affair
or maybe i watched too much lifetime.

Starr
10-29-2005, 05:47 AM
a satanist pot head/dealer.
i'm not buying it either starr.
an attorney's wife seems similiar to a school teacher.
wonder if the wife and the teen were having an affair
or maybe i watched too much lifetime.


LOL. I don't even have a guess really as to what exactly happened, but the whole pot angle that they are trying to tie into some kind of motive just seems odd. I also heard today that they arrested this kid's mother and now she is going to testify against him. WTF, is that about?

joon
10-29-2005, 11:47 AM
Wow.......This is a VERY odd story.

Sinclair
10-29-2005, 01:26 PM
How much effect does the media have there on juries?

Waaaaaaaaay too much. I don't know how it is in Belgium, but in the US and Canada, even if the jury isn't supposed to take into consideration anything from outside the case, and even if the jury is supposed to follow certain rules of evidence, well, it doesn't work that way.

It's common for some crimes to see people basically declared guilty before it's proven. Child molestation, for example. If somebody is charged with child molestation, their life is probably basically over. It will be in the news, they will probably lose their job, their family will fall apart most likely, they will have to spend money defending themselves, etc. And even if they're acquitted, a lot of people will still believe they did it.

In this case, it's just pathetic how the whole "Satanist" thing is being played up. Some kid who was most likely looking for attention is now being portrayed as the High Priest of DARKNESS!!!11

I believe that the media should not be allowed to print the names, or major identifying details, about anybody involved in court cases. Unless somebody volunteers to have their name made public, the only name reported should be the defendant, and only then if they're convicted.

Starr
10-29-2005, 07:39 PM
In this case, it's just pathetic how the whole "Satanist" thing is being played up. Some kid who was most likely looking for attention is now being portrayed as the High Priest of DARKNESS!!!11

yeah, that is very retarded. How many kids dress like this and may read the Satanic bible, or whatever it is they said he was doing? The Satanic angle makes it interesting for people, and makes him out to be some kind of scary boogie man I suppose. There was a shrink on tv a few nights ago that was harping on how this kid wore black fingernail polish(lol) and this supposed trained professional was saying that every kid he has ever come into contact with that wears it either has serious emotional problems or, most often, they are on drugs.:confused:

I believe that the media should not be allowed to print the names, or major identifying details, about anybody involved in court cases. Unless somebody volunteers to have their name made public, the only name reported should be the defendant, and only then if they're convicted.

Maybe I am missing something here, but how could they do that here considering he is a minor?:confused:

Jaybird
10-29-2005, 07:53 PM
Why would this kid have "marijuana growing equipment" sent to that address, in particular?
In high school, the stoners used to order shit to abandoned houses so their parents wouldn't find bongs and shit in the mail.

daisy
10-29-2005, 07:55 PM
there was a shrink on tv a few nights ago that was harping on how this kid wore black fingernail polish(lol) and this supposed trained professional was saying that every kid he has ever come into contact with that wears it either has serious emotional problems or, most often, they are on drugs.exceptions to their ruling. that is kinda funny to me. there used to be a black teen that rode my school bus. his dad owned a farm. he used to help his dad work on tractor trailer trucks. he had a hard time keeping the diesel fuel and grease out from underneath his fingernails so his older sister came up with the idea of painting his fingernails black.
i know this because i asked him one day on the school bus why his fingernails were painted black. he said because i work on trucks and i couldn't keep the grease out of them so my sister painted them black to hide the grease.

Starr
10-29-2005, 10:27 PM
Daisy, are you betterfuture from Vnnf, I have noticed some similarities in your writing style and the types of things you say.

daisy
10-29-2005, 10:53 PM
yes it's me hey HG

Starr
10-29-2005, 11:09 PM
thought so:p