'Secret' Origins of the White Race?

[HrodbertPalatinus]

Study attentively the following collection of suggestive sites, carefully separating the invalid crap from the valid hints:

http://www.greatdreams.com/solar/black-sun.htm

Traditionally, the Hyperboreans were in contact with extraterrestrials or ‘alien cultures’, in some versions of this, there was interbreeding...
The descendants of this seminal ‘Mother race’ were the Celts who, like the ripples on a pond, spread out, colonizing various northern areas of the planet. Scots, Irish, Basques, Spanish, Scandinavians, Icelanders and the Portuguese, all these peoples are of Celtic origin. These disparate nationalities have one common genetic trait, a large percentage of RH-negative blood types, which, according to the beliefs of the Thule society was a characteristic of the Hyperboreans and their extraterrestrial associates. In recent times, the majority of alien abductees are reportedly from RH negative blood groups, is this a possible indication that UFO cultures are tracking their cross-bred progeny? Other races and peoples who posses a positive blood type were considered to be racially impure, as positive blood is thought to be contaminated by contact with the ape evolved strand of human DNA.

http://www.echoesofenoch.com/meetthenordics.htm

http://www.unitynet.nl/Engels/The%20Biggest%20Secret/chapter_two.htm

http://www.mysteriousworld.com/Journal/2003/Spring/Giants/

http://www.thule.org/key.html

http://www.burlingtonnews.net/redhairedrace.html

http://www.geocities.com/ask_lady_lee/rhneg.html

http://www.satansrapture.com/demonation.htm

http://groups.msn.com/StarChildren/rhnegativeblood.msnw

http://groups.msn.com/UFOsTheHiddenTruth/

http://aquarianmysteries.com/blood.html

http://www.bob-wonderland.supanet.com/xfiles_2.htm

http://www.shoaheducation.com/rootrace.html

http://www.2ndcominginad70.net/Page5.html

http://www.greylodge.org/occultreview/glor_005/nazimyth.htm

http://www.galacticapublishing.com/HyperboreanTheme.htm

http://www.gnosticliberationfront.com/hitler,nazis%20and%20the%20occult.htm

http://freemasonrywatch.org/hitler_occult.html

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p335_Whisker.html

http://www.einherierbooks.cl/

http://www.maryjones.us/jce/rahn.html

http://www.geocities.com/countermedia/Otto.html

http://rafonda.com/

[Daniel Shays]

http://www.alt-psyche.com/the-ram-of-god.html

[Cherry]

humans were genentically engineered by reptilians as a slave race, hence the 11 ribs,
22 skull bones,
33 vertebrae

the reptilians were called the elohim, thats why in Genesis it has god as plural. the Freemasons worship them

where does the white race fit in, was it created seprately? i believe that the races were created first on other planets

[HrodbertPalatinus]

I picked this collection of 'ario-gnostic' sites from another forum. ...some of the sites are actually high-quality, fascinating and scholarly, e.g.--

http://www.2ndcominginad70.net/Page5.html

http://www.geocities.com/countermedia/Otto.html

http://www.greylodge.org/occultreview/glor_005/nazimyth.htm

http://www.galacticapublishing.com/HyperboreanTheme.htm

http://www.mysteriousworld.com/Journal/2003/Spring/Giants/

http://freemasonrywatch.org/hitler_occult.html

Gnostic Origins of Alfred Rosenberg's Thought

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p335_Whisker.html

So Cherry, where is the evidence that the idea of an evil overlord reptilian master race existed before David Icke and co.? I think David Icke merely exotericizes in the most brutal manner ancient dualist notions of the origin of the universe.

[Sulla the Dictator]

What happened? I don't remember white supremacy being this crazy or this gay. And I've never been a fan.

[HrodbertPalatinus]

What happened? I don't remember white supremacy being this crazy or this gay. And I've never been a fan.

It's easy, as a self-righteous antiracist, to oversimplify things and connect popular white supremacism with Afrocentrism as fantastic ressentiment-ideologies of the underprivileged. It's easy to mock the disorganized, incompetent, fantasy-prone white proletariat suffering from modern anti-nationalist and gene-blind immigration policies, but that doesn't change REALITY.

The white race, due to whatever causality, does objectively constitute the elite of organic life on planet earth. No honest person can deny this. Study the following phylogenetic representation:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Human-phylo-tree.png

Genetically speaking, white Indo-Europeans are the furthest from the lower levels of the animal kingdom embodied in the Afro-Asians, the exceptional Prometheans of nature. Whites simply have more of a dynamic "genius fraction" in comparison with the other races. Have you ever wondered why Promethean genius figures like Plato, Aristotle, Michelangelo, Da Vinci, Shakespeare, Galileo, Kepler, Gilbert, Descartes, Fermat, Torricelli, Pascal, Harvey, Huygens, Boyle, Wren, Hooke, Newton, Leibniz, Mendel, Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, etc. hardly ever appeared in African, Semitic and Asiatic history? What non-European figures are possibly comparable to the aforesaid? Charles Murray recently put out a quite interesting tome called Human Accomplishment: The Pursuit of Excellence in the Arts and Sciences 800 B.C. to 1950. Notably, he states: "What the human species is today it owes in astonishing degree to what was accomplished in just half a dozen centuries by the peoples of one small portion of the northwestern Eurasian land mass", etc...

Nietzsche, no fool, considered non-whites as monstrosities halfway between man and beast:

Fear and intelligence. - If it is true, as is now most definitely asserted that the cause of black skin pigmentation is not to be sought in the action of light, could it perhaps not be the ultimate effect of frequent attacks of rage (and undercurrents of blood beneath the skin) accumulated over thousands of years? While with the other, more intelligent races an equally frequent terror and growing pallid has finally resulted in white skin? - For degree of timidity is a measure of intelligence, and frequently to give way to blind rage a sign that animality is still quite close and would like to take over again. (Daybreak, 241)

Nietzsche designated the Aryan race "the best endowed and most reflective species of man" (The Will to Power, 142), contrasting the fair-haired dominators of European antiquity with the vastly more numerous, dark-colored, socialistically-inclined, non-Aryan slavish races:

"The vulgar man can be distinguished as the dark-coloured, and and above all as the black-haired ("hic niger est'), as the pre-Aryan inhabitants of the Italian soil, whose complexion formed the clearest feature of distinction from the dominant blondes, namely the Aryan conquering race...The subject races are seen to prevail once more, throughout almost all of Europe; in color, shortness of skull, perhaps also in intellectual and social instincts. Who knows whether modern democracy, the even more fashionable anarchism, and especially that preference for the commune, the most primitive of all social forms, which is now shared by all European socialists -- whether all these do not represent a throwback, and whether, even physiologically, the Aryan race of conquerors is not doomed?" (The Genealogy of Morals, First Essay, Section 5).

Oswald Spengler, no fool, said: The Celtic-German race has the strongest will-power the world has ever seen (Years of Decision).

[NathanTurner]

Cherry,

That's an interesting idea; though I would also say a bit eccentric, at the very least. I thought I would comment on your statement "... in Genesis it has god as plural." The term "Elohim" as it appears in Genesis as an appellation of God is not plural, because plural nouns are necessarily coupled with plural verbs denoting action in Hebrew. In the very first verse of the book, it states (with my own Hebrew transliteration, from memory):

Bereishit bara Elohim et hashamayim veet haaretz. (In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth; or, In the beginning of God's creating the heavens and the earth.)

You will notice that the verb "create" is "bara" in this case, which is a masculine *singular* conjugation. If Elohim were plural, it would have been "bor'u." The confusion regarding this comes into play when we realize that the term "Elohim" can be a name for God, or the plural of the singular "El," or "God, judge, authority." Which one it is depends upon the grammatical context of the text itself. In this case, it is straightforward.

Nathan Turner

[raskalnikov]

Where do you guys get your weed from anyway?I'm thinking of getting a new source and it looks to me like you've got some killer shit.:nuts:

[Ahknaton]

http://groups.msn.com/StarChildren/rhnegativeblood.msnw

This was an interesting link. I have O- blood and I have most of the 20 traits mentioned in the list (except for the paranormal ones).

I guess I'm descended from aliens then. I always knew I was special :D.

[Jonathan]

This was an interesting link. I have O- blood and I have most of the 20 traits mentioned in the list (except for the paranormal ones).

I guess I'm descended from aliens then. I always knew I was special :D.
So am I. So is Milesian. We're all Black-Irish too. Coincidence? I think not. Surely we were destined to rule the world :viking:

Actually, that'd make for another one of those more-or-less pointless poll-threads - What Blood Type are you?

[Ahknaton]

So am I. So is Milesian. We're all Black-Irish too. Coincidence? I think not. Surely we were destined to rule the world :viking:
Apparently analysing people's personalities based on their blood type is a real big deal in Japan. I remember reading about this in one of those "100 weird and wacky facts about the Japanese" type articles. I found this article about it on Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_blood_type_theory_of_personality
Actually, that'd make for another one of those more-or-less pointless poll-threads - What Blood Type are you?
Done (http://thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=12935) :)

[Jonathan]

Apparently analysing people's personalities based on their blood type is a real big deal in Japan. I remember reading about this in one of those "100 weird and wacky facts about the Japanese" type articles. I found this article about it on Wikipedia:
I can't say that the traits listed for the types correspond to my experience (then again, I'm in a country with 52% O and you can't have 52% of the country as leaders :p).

[Ahknaton]

I can't say that the traits listed for the types correspond to my experience (then again, I'm in a country with 52% O and you can't have 52% of the country as leaders :p).
Me neither really. Also, the traits for the O type according to the Japanese theory don't match up with the traits listed in those other articles.

[Jonathan]

Me neither really. Also, the traits for the O type according to the Japanese theory don't match up with the traits listed in those other articles.
If we wanted to conduct a little experiment on the Phora we could try to get the same people who reply to the blood-type thread to reply to the personality-type thread and see if the results correspond. For example, both yourself and myself have posted that we are O(-), yet in the past, you have posted that you are an INTP while I've posted that I'm an ENTJ.

[Jofreidr_1488]

So Cherry, where is the evidence that the idea of an evil overlord reptilian master race existed before David Icke and co.?
I think David Icke merely exotericizes in the most brutal manner ancient
dualist notions of the origin of the universe.

Reptilian stuff had been around for a long time before David Icke wrote
The 'Biggest Secret: The Book That Will Change the World' in 1999.

In a thought experiment conducted in 1982, paleontologist Dale
Russell, curator of vertebrate fossils at the National Museum of Canada in
Ottawa, conjectured that, had the Chicxulub meteorite not exterminated the
dinosaurs 65 million years ago, bipedal predators which existed at that
time, such as Troodon, would have evolved into a humanoid intelligent
form not unlike our own. Troodontids had manipulative fingers and
binocular vision. Like most dinosaurs of the Troodont family, this
creature, the Dinosauroid, would have had large eyes and three fingers on
each hand, one of which would have been partially opposed. As with most
modern reptiles (and birds), its genitalia would have been invisible.
Russell speculated that it would have required a navel, as a placenta aids
the development of a large brain case, however it would not have possesed
mammary glands, and would have fed its young, as birds do, on regurgitated
food. Its language would have sounded somewhat like bird song.

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Conspiracy theories
There are many conspiracy theories involving reptilian extraterrestrials,
or terrestials of reptilian lineage. Many posit that the so-called Greys
are in fact reptiles, and should be categorized as "Reptoids", others that
reptoids are an entirely different species working with and/or in
opposition to the greys. Some have also claimed that Reptoids are capable
of shape-shifting.

Some conspiracy theorists claim to have worked out a "dichotomy of axes"
involved in hypothetical interplanetary and intergalactic conflict, and
place the reptilians in an evil "Draconian" axis, while humans are one of
the species that belongs in an opposing "Evadamic" axis. Several other
entities and parties have been placed into this conspiracy theory, with
some players who switch allegiances between Draconian and Evadamic.

One of the earliest, modern-day reports is that of Ashland, Nebraska
police officer Herbert Schirmer. On December 3, 1967, Schirmer claims to
have been taken aboard a UFO that appeared just outside of Ashland, where
he encountered humanoid beings, 4 feet 6 inches to 5 feet tall, who wore
close-fitting silvery gray uniforms, boots and gloves. Their heads were
thin, and longer than a human head. The skin on their faces was
grey-white, the nose flat, the mouth merely a slit which did not move,
even when they spoke. Their eyes were slightly slanted. While only
slightly reptilian in their outward appearance, these beings bore a
"winged serpent" emblem on the left side of their chest. Schirmer alleged
that the beings are from another galaxy, and have bases on Earth. [6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptilian_humanoid

One should also remember the tv mini-series V for popularising the 'evil
overlord reptilian master race' archetype.

[Ahknaton]

One should also remember the tv mini-series V for popularising the 'evil
overlord reptilian master race' archetype.
David Icke gave this TV series special mention in "Children of the Matrix". He claimed it was written by someone "close to the truth".