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Ace Rimmer
10-26-2005, 05:02 PM
ZAGREB, Oct 26 (Hina) - A round-table debate called "60 Years After - the National Liberation Struggle in Croatia and the Allies in World War Two" was held at the Croatian History Institute on Wednesday under the auspices of President Stjepan Mesic.
Mesic said this was an opportunity to put things in the proper historical perspective and once against point out that historical revisionism is unacceptable and dangerous.

He said the antifascist struggle in WW2 enabled Croatia to see the end of the war on the side of the victorious allies, despite the existence of the Nazi-styled Independent State of Croatia, and that this fact in great part determined postwar Croatia.

Mesic said that British interests at that historic moment were the same as the interests of antifascist Croatia, which he added were embedded in the foundations of the present-day independent and democratic Croatia.

"Great Britain isn't and has never been Croatia's enemy," the president said, adding he was satisfied Croatia's negotiations on admission to united Europe were launched during Britain's presidency of the European Union.

He labelled claims that Great Britain had been blocking Croatia because of anti-Croat sentiment as ridiculous.

British Ambassador John Ramsden said the values which united Great Britain and Croatia in WW2, peace, freedom, tolerance and the rule of law, were the same values uniting them today. He added the aim of the round-table debate was to pay homage to achievements in WW2 and elevate the level of knowledge about that period.

Before the debate, Mesic and Ramsden saw an exhibition of remembrances of people who lived on Vis in 1943-5, when British troops were deployed on the Croatian island.

Others who took part in the debate included Rod Bailey of the Imperial War Museum in London, Zagreb University professor Ivo Goldstein, and Budimir Loncar, a minister in the Tito government and eminent diplomat.

(Hina) (http://www.hina.hr/nws-bin/genews.cgi?TOP=hot&NID=ehot/politika/HA260322.4yc)

Jebivjetar
10-26-2005, 05:43 PM
Funny how they didn't talk about Bleiburg.

Ace Rimmer
10-26-2005, 09:32 PM
Funny how they didn't talk about Bleiburg.

My thoughts exactly, as it never happened.

"Great Britain isn't and has never been Croatia's enemy," the president said

Before the debate, Mesic and Ramsden saw an exhibition of remembrances of people who lived on Vis in 1943-5, when British troops were deployed on the Croatian island.

I guess "Bleiburg silence" could be called wise diplomacy in given moment, or a treason, depends how you look at it.

Bartholomew Roberts
10-27-2005, 10:01 AM
I can only wonder what the world would have been like had the Axis won the war. What would have that meant for Croatia? In any case I dont believe that the Allies and their nationals have anything to be proud off. Today the western world has been sold out by their leaders and the people suffer. Would it have been worse had the Axis won? For me to have a 'discussion' about this considering Croatia was a victim of British and western Imperialism is farcical.