Why are Canadians so violent?

[cryptoracist]

What kind of country would allow people to shoot up the colleges? :confused:

[harjit]

:confused:

Okaaaay....

What specific incident are you talking about?

And since when did the nation "allow" it?

Or are you a troll using Cryptoracist's avatar?

[Atlas]

:confused:

Okaaaay....

What specific incident are you talking about?

And since when did the nation "allow" it?

Or are you a troll using Cryptoracist's avatar?

The Algerian-Quebecer dude ( Marc Lépine ) who killed 14 college women back in the 80's in a Montreal Uni.

[harjit]

The Algerian-Quebecer dude ( Marc Lépine ) who killed 14 college women back in the 80's in a Montreal Uni.
Yes, that is the incident that came to mind when I saw this post.

But what on earth does that have to do with Canadians as a whole? And what is this about the country "allowing" it?

[cryptoracist]

:confused:

Okaaaay....

What specific incident are you talking about?

And since when did the nation "allow" it?

Or are you a troll using Cryptoracist's avatar?
No, it's really me.

I've rededicated my life to the Lord Jesus Christ. I am no longer even remotely racist. Again.

Anyways, I'm talking about all this stuff going on CNN live right now.

The Canadians are shooting up the colleges!!

For real!!

:negro:

[Atlas]

Yes, that is the incident that came to mind when I saw this post.

But what on earth does that have to do with Canadians as a whole? And what is this about the country "allowing" it?

Mea culpa, she was talking about another shooting that happened today in a Montreal school, coincidence.

[harjit]

No, it's really me.

I've rededicated my life to the Lord Jesus Christ. I am no longer even remotely racist. Again.

Anyways, I'm talking about all this stuff going on CNN live right now.

The Canadians are shooting up the colleges!!

For real!!

:negro:
Holy shit, you are right... sorry about the aspersions.

Trust me, nobody is "allowing" it, and it is not a "Canadian" thing. :(

[cryptoracist]

Holy shit, you are right... sorry about the aspersions.


S'ok, as long as you don't start spitting on me like Demonica did. :p

[harjit]

I hate being abroad when shit like this happens. :(

Reports say four injured in shooting at Montreal college

CanWest News Service

Wednesday, September 13, 2006

Dawson College.
Aerial shot of Dawson College.
Layout of Dawson College.

MONTREAL - At least one - possibly two - gunmen have opened fire inside downtown Montreal’s Dawson College critically wounding at least three people .

Police say at least one gunman has been "neutralized," but they offered no further explanation.

One student told radio station 940 news least two people are reported to have been shot, with one person hit in the neck.

There is one unconfirmed report there has been a fatality and several wounded inside the facility, which has about 10,000 full-and part-time students.

There are concerns a second gunman may be inside the building. One television report said police have the gunman surrounded inside the complex. One account described a gunman with a long-gun and wearing military fatigues. That report could not be confirmed.

Live television pictures at 1:40 p.m. Eastern time showed students continuing to flee from all exits.

Several people were seen being taken out on stretchers. On the front steps of the building, blood was seen on the ground near a police vehicle.

Witnesses said it appeared a gunman was chasing someone and at least 20 shots were fired.

Police believe one gunman is about 20 years old, and a student at the English-language college.

The shootings began around 1:00 p.m. Eastern time and reportedly took place in the cafeteria, on the third floor of the school.

The school is located in a densely populated area of the city with stores and offices surrounding it.

It is not the first time there has been a shooting in a Montreal college. In December 1989, Marc Lepine shot and killed 14 women and wounded several others at Ecole Polytechnique during a shooting rampage that ended when he took his own life.
© CanWest News Service 2006

Copyright © 2006 CanWest Interactive, a division of CanWest MediaWorks Publications, Inc.. All rights reserved.

http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news/story.html?id=1dc31f5a-940d-4147-b5c7-d693b38f4f35&k=66350

[Hakluyt]

"They were wearing black trenchcoats, they had all these piercings, they were all white"

[cryptoracist]

"They were wearing black trenchcoats, they had all these piercings, they were all white"
Sounds like they dressed kinda cool.... they might not be Canadian. :)

[Mixed Race]

What kind of country would allow people to shoot up the colleges? :confused:

This is coming from somebody from Haiti? ;)

You might want to read this....

http://www.forbes.com/travel/2006/02/16/dangerous-travel-destinations-cx_sb_0216feat_ls.html

Click on the picture slideshow.

[cryptoracist]

This is coming from somebody from Haiti? ;)

You might want to read this....

http://www.forbes.com/travel/2006/02/16/dangerous-travel-destinations-cx_sb_0216feat_ls.html

Click on the picture slideshow.
I've never been to Haiti.

I was born and raised in Brooklyn, NYC.

A city known for it's non-violence. :)

[Mixed Race]

I've never been to Haiti.

I was born and raised in Brooklyn, NYC.

A city known for it's non-violence. :)

But you must identify with haiti in some way to have its flag in your profile.

[Atlas]

I've never been to Haiti.

I was born and raised in Brooklyn, NYC.

A city known for it's non-violence. :)

I was up there in 2004 and although I've seen many blacks, it didn't look like a complete craphole and I didn't feel any fear for my life.

[cryptoracist]

I was up there in 2004 and although I've seen many blacks, it didn't look like a complete craphole and I didn't feel any fear for my life.
Seriosly, to tell the truth I feel safer in NYC now than in many other places in the US.

NYC is actually a decent place to live now if you can afford it although I hate to credit Guiiliani with anything...

But you must identify with haiti in some way to have its flag in your profile.
MY mother is Haitian but I can't go (safely) because of my family (unless i go under another name) and their past political connections.

[Starr]

"They were wearing black trenchcoats, they had all these piercings, they were all white"


They are calling this the Canadian Columbine.

[Hachiko]

Sounds like they dressed kinda cool.... they might not be Canadian. :)
Well, I saw plenty of pics of the victims, and not too many of them looked like they were born in Canada......:D

[Der Sozialist]

:rofl:

Charles Whitman anybody…..

[Slavic Enforcer]

"They were wearing black trenchcoats, they had all these piercings, they were all white"

Bad remake of the Columbine massacre.

[Winston]

This has 'white crime' written all over it.

[Starr]

It seems when whites loose it in this way it is something that has been building up for a long time, with many different incidents leading them down that road, where blacks, for instance, can be set off by one particular incident. Whites seem more likely also to feel some need to go out in a big way taking a lot of people with them. Leaving something people will remember and talk about for a while. They are saying now that they believe there was one 1 gunman.

This is probably another partial reason why white crimes always make the news while black crimes are ignored.

[Hachiko]

where blacks, for instance, can be set off by one particular incident.
If there's one thing the folks at VNN did well it was finding the articles citing where one Black killed another over chicken or pork chops. :rofl:

[Starr]

If there's one thing the folks at VNN did well it was finding the articles citing where one Black killed another over chicken or pork chops. :rofl:


I recall an incident over tator tots, also.:rofl:

[Winston]

It seems when whites loose it in this way it is something that has been building up for a long time, with many different incidents leading them down that road, where blacks, for instance, can be set off by one particular incident. Whites seem more likely also to feel some need to go out in a big way taking a lot of people with them. Leaving something people will remember and talk about for a while. They are saying now that they believe there was one 1 gunman.

I was thinking the same thing as the news broke. This seems to fit the MO for the disgruntled white youth, who, thankfully not very often, decides to kill himself and on the way out take a shot at the society he resents.
I imagine this particular criminal has more reason to believe he is a victim than the average black criminal who might have the usual excuses made for him.
Superfluous disclaimer: I am not defending this killer.

[Hachiko]

I recall an incident over tator tots, also.:rofl:
I remember that too!!!
Wasn't that in Canada as well?

[cryptoracist]

Well, I saw plenty of pics of the victims, and not too many of them looked like they were born in Canada......:DHas anybody seen/found a picture of the gunmen yet?

[cryptoracist]

It seems when whites loose it in this way it is something that has been building up for a long time, with many different incidents leading them down that road, where blacks, for instance, can be set off by one particular incident. Whites seem more likely also to feel some need to go out in a big way taking a lot of people with them. Leaving something people will remember and talk about for a while. They are saying now that they believe there was one 1 gunman.

This is probably another partial reason why white crimes always make the news while black crimes are ignored.
haha i see you've found some more serial killers to hold in such high personal esteem... ;)

Will you be joining the fan club?



^ (that one was for you, sulla) :p

[Commander]

"Camille" [ :) ] you can't really judge all of Canada by what happens in Montreal. That area has a history of all kinds of nutty things happening over the years. There are some pretty violent criminals living there, not to mention real "cream of the crop" of the post 1965 immigration boom.

[cryptoracist]

"Camille" [ :) ] you can't really judge all of Canada by what happens in Montreal. That area has a history of all kinds of nutty things happening over the years. There are some pretty violent criminals living there, not to mention real "cream of the crop" of the post 1965 immigration boom.
You're right, I really just judge all of Canada by what happens by the French Canadians throughout Quebec.

The English speakers are alright, though. :negro:

[Hakluyt]

I thought Haitians liked Quebecois... they're the "White niggers of America" after all. :rolleyes:

and fwiw it seems the killer was indeed heard speaking French despite it being an Anglophone college

[cryptoracist]

I thought Haitians liked Quebecois... they're the "White niggers of America" after all. :rolleyes:

and fwiw it seems the killer was indeed heard speaking French despite it being an Anglophone college
No way, they're not American at all. We have rednecks filling that position anyways. :D

[Starr]

Define redneck.

[Helios Panoptes]

What kind of country would allow people to shoot up the colleges? :confused:

You are not very bright, are you? That an event occurs does not indicate that is condoned.

[Billy Score]

This guy is no marc lepine. He had a mohawk and only killed.. 1 person. what a pathetic idiot. The modern world blows, even modern spree killers are humanistic. Remember when the postal worker would take down 20 people? When Huberty blasted 20 and wounded 40? When Unruh took down 13 in under 13 minutes? these idiots today barely take out one.

[Helios Panoptes]

This guy is no marc lepine. He had a mohawk and only killed.. 1 person. what a pathetic idiot. The modern world blows, even modern spree killers are humanistic. Remember when the postal worker would take down 20 people? When Huberty blasted 20 and wounded 40? When Unruh took down 13 in under 13 minutes? these idiots today barely take out one.

Suicide bombing is the future.

[Atlas]

Define redneck.

White southerner, whom enjoys beer, lives in a trailer, drives a pickup truck, and likes to hunt, stupid crap like that.

[Ahknaton]

This guy is no marc lepine. He had a mohawk and only killed.. 1 person. what a pathetic idiot. The modern world blows, even modern spree killers are humanistic. Remember when the postal worker would take down 20 people? When Huberty blasted 20 and wounded 40? When Unruh took down 13 in under 13 minutes? these idiots today barely take out one.
LOL, I was thinking the same thing, but I thought it would be poor taste to post it. But seeing as you've set the precedent: the killed-to-wounded ratio is strangely low for someone firing a semi-automatic weapon at close quarters. Martin Bryant, who was mentally retarded, managed to kill 35 (including several head-shots fired from the hip) and wound 18 at Port Arthur (almost a 2:1 ratio), and David Grey killed 15 or so (and wounded practically half the town) during his killing spree at Aramoana village in NZ. Perhaps Southern Hemisphere shooters are superior marksmen? What is this guy's problem that he hits 12 and only kills one of them? The cops being on the scene straight away might explain the low kill count, but it doesn't excuse the poor kill ratio.

[Hakluyt]

So he did turn out to be Caucasian, at least anthropologically speaking...

http://images.theglobeandmail.com/archives/RTGAM/images/20060914/wgillblog0914/0914gill.jpg

Kimveer Gill of Laval, Que., shown in this undated photo taken from a website, has been named by several newspapers as the gunman in the Dawson College shootings. (CP)

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060914.wgillblog0914/BNStory/Front

[Hakluyt]

Okay 5 minutes of googlage paid off, check it out before they take it down: http://vampirefreaks.com/gallery.php?u=fatality666

[Hachiko]

So he did turn out to be Caucasian, at least anthropologically speaking...

http://images.theglobeandmail.com/archives/RTGAM/images/20060914/wgillblog0914/0914gill.jpg

Kimveer Gill of Laval, Que., shown in this undated photo taken from a website, has been named by several newspapers as the gunman in the Dawson College shootings. (CP)

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20060914.wgillblog0914/BNStory/Front
A caucasian named "Kimveer"??? :rofl:
I had read on a Yahoo message board that the shooter had a Saudi passport, and taking a good look at his face and a good read of the name appears to add some credence to that supposition.
TMB (Tpyical Muslim Behaviour) indeed.

[Hakluyt]

I'm assuming he's a subcontinental Indian = Caucasian, technically...

[Ahknaton]

Okay 5 minutes of googlage paid off, check it out before they take it down: http://vampirefreaks.com/gallery.php?u=fatality666
http://pics1.vampirefreaks.com/f/fa/fat/fatality666/8565893.jpg

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

What a loser. I'm sure no-one who knew him could have ever seen this coming :rolleyes:

[harjit]

I think he is Indian. Gill is a Punjabi name.

Also, first names with "veer" or "vir" tend to be Indian.

[Anarch]

LOL, I was thinking the same thing, but I thought it would be poor taste to post it. But seeing as you've set the precedent: the killed-to-wounded ratio is strangely low for someone firing a semi-automatic weapon at close quarters. Martin Bryant, who was mentally retarded, managed to kill 35 (including several head-shots fired from the hip) and wound 18 at Port Arthur (almost a 2:1 ratio), and David Grey killed 15 or so (and wounded practically half the town) during his killing spree at Aramoana village in NZ. Perhaps Southern Hemisphere shooters are superior marksmen? What is this guy's problem that he hits 12 and only kills one of them? The cops being on the scene straight away might explain the low kill count, but it doesn't excuse the poor kill ratio.
Dunno. Southerners play a lot of first person shooters? Maybe people are following the trend of Rambo, shoot from the hip stuff? Who knows. Maybe we're just reaching the end of the Age of the Serial Killer.

[Mixed Race]

I think he is Indian. Gill is a Punjabi name.

Also, first names with "veer" or "vir" tend to be Indian.

Thats what I thought at first but wasn't convinced until you mentioned it.

Either way he is a disgrace.

[Jonathan]

Gill is a Punjabi name.
And Irish...but I'd go with Punjabi in this case.

[Anarch]

In conclusion: Canadians are violent because they're Americans pretending not to be Americans, have that kinda self-contradicting inner tension that just needs to be vented every now and then.

[Hachiko]

Gill is a Punjabi name.


Also used by Blacks.

http://i10.tinypic.com/29zs93l.jpg

^Kendall Gill^

[Jonathan]

Also used by Blacks.
Black slaves ended up adopting all sorts of names. Do you think Jackson came over from Africa?

[Mixed Race]

He's definitely of South Asian stock.

You can tell from that picture.

[Hachiko]

Black slaves ended up adopting all sorts of names. Do you think Jackson came over from Africa?
I know that's a given. How many times do you see Blacks with Irish family names beginning with O'______?
Just never thought Punjabi's would be stupid enough to buy Blacks to do the yard work.....:rolleyes:

[FreeWhiteMan]

LOL, I was thinking the same thing, but I thought it would be poor taste to post it. But seeing as you've set the precedent: the killed-to-wounded ratio is strangely low for someone firing a semi-automatic weapon at close quarters. Martin Bryant, who was mentally retarded, managed to kill 35 (including several head-shots fired from the hip) and wound 18 at Port Arthur (almost a 2:1 ratio), and David Grey killed 15 or so (and wounded practically half the town) during his killing spree at Aramoana village in NZ. Perhaps Southern Hemisphere shooters are superior marksmen? What is this guy's problem that he hits 12 and only kills one of them? The cops being on the scene straight away might explain the low kill count, but it doesn't excuse the poor kill ratio.

If he was using the same weapon he posed with on his website, it was probably a 9mm. That would explain the low death count versus wounded.

[Geist]

That was a pretty gay shooting spree. All the same how come these goths dont at least shoot up rappers? Then they might be absolved somehow.

[Starr]

So he did turn out to be Caucasian, at least anthropologically speaking...

http://images.theglobeandmail.com/archives/RTGAM/images/20060914/wgillblog0914/0914gill.jpg



LOL. this reminds me of the pictures or videos that you see released of terrorists before they do their deed. But they look serious and do not have a big smile on their face that is saying "look at me." This guy thinks he is cool.

[Billy Score]

LOL, I was thinking the same thing, but I thought it would be poor taste to post it. But seeing as you've set the precedent: the killed-to-wounded ratio is strangely low for someone firing a semi-automatic weapon at close quarters. Martin Bryant, who was mentally retarded, managed to kill 35 (including several head-shots fired from the hip) and wound 18 at Port Arthur (almost a 2:1 ratio), and David Grey killed 15 or so (and wounded practically half the town) during his killing spree at Aramoana village in NZ. Perhaps Southern Hemisphere shooters are superior marksmen? What is this guy's problem that he hits 12 and only kills one of them? The cops being on the scene straight away might explain the low kill count, but it doesn't excuse the poor kill ratio.
I've heard Bryant "didn't do it", there are all sorts of conspiracies on him. he didn't take any prisoners though, 35 people is an insane number. Huberty went to mcdonalds to "hunt humans" and got 20-40 dead/wounded. If you consider, even the columbine thing wasn't that big. It was TWO guys who had planned and plotted for months and in the end they got less kills than i get in doom or wolfenstein against armed opponents.

How is it in poor taste? these disgruntled postal workers/spree killers always fascinated me. I sympathize with the ones who just had enough and want to go down in a hail of gunfire (as this guy apparently did). It certainly doesn't do much to help their cause much though. and it is a legit question. Recently all the shooters are killing 1-5 people tops. Maybe people are more guarded these days. Whitman and Unruh were attacking in a time when people didn't think this kind of thing could happen.

Any word on that korean guy? Woo Bum kin or something, he killed like 80 people in a postal rampage after his girlfriend swatted a fly on his chest while he was sleeping. He raided an armory and went crazy with grenades and high power guns. Yet i never hear much about this even though this is more than double Bryant's toll.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woo_Bum-Kon there we go

[cryptoracist]

White southerner, whom enjoys beer, lives in a trailer, drives a pickup truck, and likes to hunt, stupid crap like that.
You must be telepathic. Exactly as I would've defined it, too. :negro:

You forgot meth addiction , though... :o

[Starr]

Originally Posted by Atlas
White southerner, drives a pickup truck, and likes to hunt, stupid crap like that.


These three sound in some ways like my ideal man. The hunting thing is bizarre because I oppose killing animals for fun(and who living in the united states really has to kill an animal to get food?), but in the same way there is something "manly" in the thought of a guy going hunting. I am a bizarre person I guess.:D

I asked merely for the reason that some people define the word differently and when I think of the "redneck" it doesn't come along with a negative image.

[cryptoracist]

These three sound in some ways like my ideal man. The hunting thing is bizarre because I oppose killing animals for fun(and who living in the united states really has to kill an animal to get food?), but in the same way there is something "manly" in the thought of a guy going hunting. I am a bizarre person I guess.:D

I asked merely for the reason that some people define the word differently and when I think of the "redneck" it doesn't come along with a negative image.
For me neither.

The term "nigga" has the same feeling of endearment for me, basically just a "down-home" person with a strong connection to their American culture and roots.

I like niggas and rednecks alike... at least they tend to "keep it real". :negro:

[Sudaev]

For me neither.

The term "nigga" has the same feeling of endearment for me, basically just a "down-home" person with a strong connection to their American culture and roots.

I like niggas and rednecks alike... at least they tend to "keep it real". :negro:

Are you a sock puppet? I could have sworn you're also on here as "cryptoracist"

[Winston]

Are you a sock puppet? I could have sworn you're also on here as "cryptoracist"

She obviously had her name changed, like many others have done.

[Starr]

Yes, that is quite a common thing around here, especially among a few members who like to change their name frequently. I have no idea why. I wish people would just choose a name and stick with it.:p

[harjit]

These three sound in some ways like my ideal man. The hunting thing is bizarre because I oppose killing animals for fun(and who living in the united states really has to kill an animal to get food?), but in the same way there is something "manly" in the thought of a guy going hunting. I am a bizarre person I guess.:D
I oppose killing for fun, but not if the animal is used for food.

The way farm animals live and die is not something I am proud of, speaking as a meat-eather. I respect a guy like Ted Nugent who reportedly only eats meat from animals he himself has hunted and killed.

[Starr]

The problem I have with Ted Nugent is he has so much in-your-face style joy about killing animals. No doubt this is the result of being an attention-whore/celebrity, and because he likes to piss off the animal rights activists who hate him with a passion, but it still irritates me.:(

[Negrotic Overlord]

Quebecois... they're the "White niggers of America" after all.


No way, they're French.

Quebecois Nihilists (http://www.anus.com/tribes/qnus)

[Ahknaton]

Any word on that korean guy? Woo Bum kin or something, he killed like 80 people in a postal rampage after his girlfriend swatted a fly on his chest while he was sleeping. He raided an armory and went crazy with grenades and high power guns. Yet i never hear much about this even though this is more than double Bryant's toll.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woo_Bum-Kon there we go
Yeah I've read about him before, he's not really famous though. He "only" killed 57, in fact. I guess it was quite a while ago, 1982. Probably the reason he got such a high kill count was that he was a cop, so for starters he has access to the armory, and secondly he would have been a professionally trained shooter instead of some random loser who picks up a gun and starts spraying bullets. I hate to think of the consequences if some highly-trained Iraq vet with PTSD or something went postal.

This is a good online resource documenting mass killing sprees: SpankMe's Mass Murder (http://massmurder.zyns.com/). Run by a New Zealander too :dance2: . It doesn't look like this latest guy is up on the site yet though, although it doesn't look like there is anyone on there with less than 6 kills, so he probably won't be.

[Slavic Enforcer]

A list of what he hated:


Dislikes: THE WORLD AND EVERYTHING IN IT

But to be more specific:

Animal Cruelty
Country Music
Posers
Chavs
Jocks
Preps
Downraters
Anything And Everything Hip Hop
All Those Who Oppose My Rule
Traffic
American Government
Anyone Who Supports The American Government
Politics
Comedy Movies
Religion
All The Governments On Earth
God
Stress
People In General
Really Hot and Humid Summer Days
Lies
Betrayers
Deceivers
Manipulators
Lawyers
Anyone Who Has Anything Agains Metal Or Goth
Capatalists
People Who Think They're Real Smart Asses But Who Are Really Just Motherfuckers
People Without Manners
Downgraders
Rude People
People In General
Anyone Who Has Ever Said Or Done Anything Bad To A Goth Girl (I WILL KILL YOU)
Sunlight (Arrgghhh, It Burns)
Goody Two Shoes
Fucking Religious People Who Think They Know Everything.....And Then They Stick It In Your Face Cuz' They Think They Know Everything (They Don't Understand That They're Just A Bunch Of Little Sheep)
Catholics
Society
Traffic
When My PC Crashes Or Freezes...Arrgghhh
Mmmmmmmmm, So...What Else??.. Ummmm, Let Me Think.....(This May Take A While)...
Fucking Jocks
Cheerleaders
Preppies
FUCKING JOCKS
Teachers Who Try To Be Like The Students So They Can Be ^popular^....Instead Of Doing Their Job The Way They Should...And TEACH
Fuck, Just Fucking Writting This Stuff Is Pissing Me Off
People Who Talk With Their Mouths Full
Bullys
When My Rifle Misfires And I Gotta Stand There For 60 Seconds Waiting For It To Fire, Or Not
The Universe
Anyone who doesn't like VF
Church Going Assholes
The World
Bible Thumpping Know-It-Alls
Damn I Gotta Lot Of Dislikes
Child Molesting Priests
All Priests
Republicans
Racists
Homophobes
Did I Mention That I Hate The World
Pitbulls (They're Too Dangerous)
Waking Up
Life
The City It's Just So Damn Crowded
Warm Beer
The Human Race
When A DVD I'm Watching Skips Or Freezes
Dogs
GOD DAMN MOTHERFUCKING JOCKS


Pathetic guy..

[Ahknaton]

Dislikes: THE WORLD AND EVERYTHING IN IT

But to be more specific:

....
Racists
....


If I owned the newspapers, this story would have run under the headline "Anti-racist kills 1, injures 12 in shooting spree". :D

[harjit]

If I owned the newspapers, this story would have run under the headline "Anti-racist kills 1, injures 12 in shooting spree". :D
And my newspaper chain would counter with "The work of a hip-hop hater". :D

[Winston]

"Hater of misfiring weapons goes on shooting spree in Canadian college".

[Negrotic Overlord]

What kind of country would allow people to shoot up the colleges? :confused:

Shooting up is cool though. They're just expressing their individualism and transcending their suburban backgrounds.

[<flame deleted>]

We dutch don`t wear trenchcoats cause you can`t ride a bicycle with them because they are too long. That`s why we yt dutch don`t shoot people at school http://www.thephora.net/forum/images/icons/icon6.gif

[WFHermans]

Yeah I've read about him before, he's not really famous though. He "only" killed 57, in fact. I guess it was quite a while ago, 1982. Probably the reason he got such a high kill count was that he was a cop, so for starters he has access to the armory, and secondly he would have been a professionally trained shooter instead of some random loser who picks up a gun and starts spraying bullets. I hate to think of the consequences if some highly-trained Iraq vet with PTSD or something went postal.

This is a good online resource documenting mass killing sprees: SpankMe's Mass Murder (http://massmurder.zyns.com/). Run by a New Zealander too :dance2: . It doesn't look like this latest guy is up on the site yet though, although it doesn't look like there is anyone on there with less than 6 kills, so he probably won't be.
More importantly, he could kill 57 people because the average citizens weren't allowed to have guns.

[Sandee]

And yet people feel sympathy for that crazy guy. What about the victims? They're blaming the site he used to go to and on the news, they were debating whether certain sites should be policed or banned. The control of firearms was another heavily debated topic. Such sites usually draw weirdos but it's the individual who's to blame. What I find funny is how people often say things like "He was a nice, quiet fellow." You hear it all the time and yet, on his blog he seemed to be an angry and depressed young man. How contradictory. Unless he led a double life, relatives can often tell if someone is antisocial, depressed or whatever.

He's of indian heritage but he went for the whole goth/vampire thing and alienated himself further as a result.

[Commander]

And yet people feel sympathy for that crazy guy. What about the victims? They're blaming the site he used to go to and on the news, they were debating whether certain sites should be policed or banned......
The Canadian Jewish Congress has been looking for some way to push thru this banning of websites Bernie Farber does not like. I think they will use this guy here for their own benefit.

That cabal of evil at CJC headquarters in Montreal do not give a damn about the school kids, they want to be able to block out sites that are critical of Israel & the Zionist agenda.

[Ridder in de Orde van Cicero]

Canadians are much more gentleman than those Yankee-cockroaches and McDonalds-zombies. Godd bless Israel.

[Elysium]

Why are Canadians so violent?

which Canadians are you talking about? This guy was an Indian, Fabrikant was a Russian, Lépine turned crazy because of his Algerian father and the Saskatchewan teen shooter some times ago was an Amerindian.

[Starr]

They're blaming the site he used to go to and on the news, they were debating whether certain sites should be policed or banned

that is so typical. In the time before the internet actions like these were blamed on tv and music or whatever other bullshit they could come up with. People are never responsible for their own behaviors. There is always something these behaviors need to be blamed on. It also is convenient for the kind of people who want to use anything they can to make their case for censoring free speech, they need to scare people to get them to support these things however, so bring in the boogie men, crazy mass murderers who loose it and terrorists, who get their information and communicate on unapproved sites on the net, so you will think a removal of certain freedoms are for your own protection. People will fall for it, also.