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Mackie
09-19-2006, 06:42 PM
Just a couple of thoughts that I came up with.
"Hate and fear.
They are not parts of bad personalities.
They are the feelings of men and women, who in the time of need,
have to act upon their instinct.
to defend,
what they all seem to,
love and hold dear."
and
so long shall the mouth which speaks freely stay open, til it bites the hand that allows it to stay open.
Do you guys think these thoughts have any sense?
Sandee
09-19-2006, 10:53 PM
^Depends on how those two emotions are channelled and under what context.
"Hate and fear.
They are not parts of bad personalities.
They are the feelings of men and women, who in the time of need,
have to act upon their instinct.
to defend,
what they all seem to,
love and hold dear."
Hatred of vulgarity, débaucherie/decadence, delinquency because of a love of cultural heritage, morals and values for example can make an individual wiser and more refined in the long run. Also, many revolutions came to be due to hatred of an unjust system.
If you hate a pedophile, a murderer, an invader or a rapist, your hatred is justified in your eyes. It's understandable. If in such cases, someone wants the offenders to pay, how can it be hatred? It's justice.
Fear can be a good thing in as long as it doesn't incapacitate a person. It can ever stir someone to make something good out of his/her life. The fear of getting mugged keeps you off desolate, dark and violent neighbourhoods. The fear of being a destitute forces you to educate yourself or at least work.
Hatred towards someone that doesn't do you any harm (i.e has the same rights as you do in society) is your personal prerogative but if you act upon it and physically assault the person, then this type of hatred is very destructive and you become a slave to your basic instincts instead of them serving you.
Fearing change, adversity, etc can also make a person stagnate and not progress.
Instinctive as they may be, there are situations where such emotions can be positive and should be recognized as such and other situations where they hold the individual back and prevents personal emancipation and should be transcended.
"so long shall the mouth which speaks freely stay open, til it bites the hand that allows it to stay open."
If you preach tolerance but are intolerant of others, you compromise your own position. This too, however is contextual. No one in their right mind will tolerate an adult abusing a baby for example. If the freedom of action of one means infringement of the freedom of action of another, it is not freedom per se but persecution/intimidation/provocation. Freedom is being able to exerce your rights while being aware and mindful that others have the same rights. If you can criticise but can't take criticism it makes you a hypocrite.
So yes, to put up with a guest that shows disrespect to the host that accomodates him, is a sign of weakness and false humility and not of tolerance, love and empathy. For example, spoiling a child by giving in to all its excessive demands isn't love. Correcting him is.
Hachiko
09-19-2006, 10:57 PM
The second nugget of wisdom is very clever.
The first seems to apply more to love and fear.
If something you value is attacked, you fear for the preservation of something loved. This does not constitute hate. It just enacts an instinctual self-defense mechanism to protect.
Mackie
09-20-2006, 06:16 AM
Hm... to make it a little more clearer, the first one was me on war and the second one me on of freedom of speech ;p
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