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Fade the Butcher
11-03-2005, 09:56 PM
http://www.spectator.co.uk/article_pfv.php?id=6865

How the French riot Theodore Dalrymple

Les Vans, Ardèche

For a patriot like me, it is a great consolation to know that other societies are undergoing precisely the kind of decomposition, if a little more slowly and with slightly more resistance to it, in which we so clearly lead the world. This reassures me that, eventually, nowhere will be better than Britain, and then I will be able once again, like George III, to rejoice in the name of Briton.

In France, for example, it was not many years ago that people with tattoos were infrequently to be seen, but now they are everywhere. The small bourgeois town near my house boasts not one but two tattoo and piercing studios, inscribing indelible kitsch on the skins of the dim and tasteless young. The latter hope thereby to achieve an individuality of which a total immersion in popular culture deprives them: therefore a scorpion above a nipple or a snake over the deltoid provides them with a unique character that they would otherwise lack.

Though the term ‘Anglo-Saxon’ is one of reprobation, often but not always rightly, in the French press, the fact is that they — the French — follow us in the end, especially in our foolishnesses. They have followed our teaching methods, for example, in the state schools, to the great detriment of the poor and the great advantage of the bureaucratic elite. ‘Anglo-Saxon’ means modern, and modern means the latest thing; and in a nation of the fashion-conscious the latest thing means the best thing, to be without which is to be ...well, démodé.


They even have small riots like ours. This proves that they are up to speed on the latest social developments. A few days after the attempted pogrom in Lozells, Birmingham, there was a two-night riot in the charmingly named Clichy-sous-Bois, where you might have imagined that many Britons had bought properties for a song, about whose improvements both in amenities and monetary value they so boringly boasted at dinner parties.

Alas, property in Clichy-sous-Bois is probably quite cheap, but not because the original inhabitants have fled its rural isolation. It’s a suburb of Paris, social housing territory, and social housing, in modern societies at any rate, means antisocial behaviour. Such areas are, in effect, riots waiting to happen.

The cause of the riot, apart from the relatively clement weather for the time of year that is a necessary but not sufficient cause of such rioting, was the death of two youths and the severe burns of another. They apparently formed members of a group of 15 who were peacefully breaking into a workshop when the police arrived and arrested six of them. Unlike the 14-year-old girl in Lozells who was allegedly raped by the friends and associates of the shopkeeper from whose shop she had been peacefully shoplifting, the three youths of Clichy-sous-Bois were incontestably real.

They fled and took refuge in an electricity transformer by climbing over two walls complete with eloquent notices that millions of volts were bad for you, where two of them were electrocuted to death and one suffered severe burns. The two dead were of Turkish and Malian extraction; perhaps the new methods of teaching had left them unable to read, at least at speed.

The police felt it politic, in order to calm the situation, to issue a statement to the effect that the three were not being chased ‘physically’ at the time of their sanctuary in the installation of Electricité de France — but, as the good book says, the guilty fleeth where no man pursueth.

Alas, the police’s sensitivity did not calm the situation; it was too late. Rioting at the terrible injustice done to the three youths ensued, kindergartens and schools were stoned in natural consequence of their martyrdom, and 28 cars were burnt. The fact that the cars probably belonged to poor inhabitants of the quartier did not inhibit the rioters, or even give them pause; in such a situation it is self-expression that counts. A shot was fired at one of the armoured vehicles carrying the forces of law if not of order, and pierced its armour: a testimony to the increasing fire-power of the slums.

The imam of the area said, on one of the days following the rioting, that arrests in Clichy-sous-Bois were often strong-armed, and that therefore youths felt humiliated by them. I accept, of course, that the French police are not universally appreciated for their tact or delicacy; nevertheless, this seems to be taking the doctrine of every youth’s inalienable right to self-esteem a little far. It is surely stretching credibility to suggest that strong-armed tactics are never required, and that the youths of Clichy-sous-Bois always come quietly, with a frank acknowledgement of the fairness of their arrest.

The headmistress of one of the stoned kindergartens said that Clichy-sous-Bois was not a particularly bad area. It was generally peaceful, but there was petty theft, and cars were sometimes festively burnt on Christmas and New Year’s Day, but that was all. The parents of her pupils were shocked by what had happened.

According to Le Monde, they marched in homage to the deceased on the day following the rioting. Were they heroes of the resistance, then? If so, resistance to what? To social security, social housing, and the mobile telephones with which some of the rioters were reported to have called in reinforcements from elsewhere? To the inflexibility of France’s labour laws, which protect those already in employment but prevent the unemployed from finding work? The deaths of the two were a tragedy to those who loved them, of course, and it is tragic also that youths feel that breaking into workshops gives meaning to life, but even allowing for the impetuosity of youth it is difficult to see anything in their conduct worthy of homage.

How widespread is disorder in the suburbs of French towns and cities? The interior minister, Nicolas Sarkozy, has built a career on emphasising its scope. In an interview with Le Monde, he once said that 9,000 police vehicles had been stoned in the previous ten months, and that between 20 and 40 cars were burnt out every night in France. Certainly, the latter figure is not an exaggeration: every suburb worth its salt is littered with the carcasses of burnt-out cars. If Britain is the car-theft champion of the world, France is the vehicle-arson champion.
In defence of French social underdevelopment, however, it must be said that arson is much less likely to bother members of the French bourgeoisie than is car-theft to bother members of the British bourgeoisie. In France, your car will not be burnt out unless you are at least teetering on the edge of relative poverty. Despite the animadversions of the French press about savage liberalism, therefore, Britain is a much more egalitarian society than France, where criminality is so much better zoned.

Atlas
11-03-2005, 10:13 PM
Let's hope now that the situation become even more serious, with riots in every city filled with muslims or negroes in France. We have the largest non-white population in Europe, therefore we'd probably be the first country to have a racial war on our soil. It's a matter of time now.

Watzy
11-03-2005, 10:50 PM
They should continue persisting further so that the army can deport them back into the jungle.

Jimbo Gomez
11-04-2005, 01:25 PM
They should continue persisting further so that the army can deport them back into the jungle.

In my authority of supreme moral leader of this forum I herby declare this post to be a beacon of light for every pious man to take close to the heart.

Martin Kuklinski
11-04-2005, 02:14 PM
Let's hope now that the situation become even more serious, with riots in every city filled with muslims or negroes in France.Muslims arent a part of a 'Race'. Eloberate youself with that, please. Do you mean the Arab-Muslims, the Coon-Muslims, or the Asiatic-Muslims.We have the largest non-white population in Europe,Yes, because France is one of Western-Europe's biggest country with a great number of citizens. And France has this problem due to the occupations of country's like; Algeria, Morroco, Tunisia and some monkey area's somewhere in Africa. therefore we'd probably be the first country to have a racial war on our soil.Not gonna with the standard French ''attitude''. After the swine Van Gogh was murdered, hundreds of ordinary Dutch non-right-wing extremist kids were burning down mosque's. When that lying French bitch with her story about: ''North-African looking men beating her up savagly in a metro''. Not ONE French dude standed up and beated up a Northern-African Arab for that. So in mine humble opinnion, France wont have his race-war in the next 5 years. And demographic looking; Holland has more non-whites than you do. It's a matter of time now.As you say. Sad it is, that you're fellow country males and females didn't voted for Le Pen.

His best quote - ''Immigration and Crime is one'' - is something to remember.

Billy Score
11-04-2005, 03:54 PM
the writing style was quite humorous. I don't have any sympathy for the youths, but i especially liked that second paragraph on tattoos.

May all of Europe and the US descend into rioting.

Felix the Cat
11-04-2005, 05:52 PM
So in mine humble opinnion, France wont have his race-war in the next 5 years. And demographic looking; Holland has more non-whites than you do.
Yeah, but small countries have to be very careful how they deal with this issue

Remember Kosovo?

But if France blows up there will be no stopping the process

Fade the Butcher
11-04-2005, 06:51 PM
That's wild, bro.

Felix the Cat
11-04-2005, 07:26 PM
Clinton didn't give a damn about Kosovo, he merely wanted to ease Arab criticism of his government by being seen "doing something" for Muslims

If the Dutch begin attacking Muslims on a large scale, the same calculation may be made by the governments of Britain, France, Scandinavia, etc.

Bombing Dutch "racists" would be an excellent way to appease angry Muslim minorities in these countries

It follows that the first "move" must be made by a country too big to be bombed

Fade the Butcher
11-04-2005, 09:00 PM
We built several nice bases alongside strategic Balkan pipelines. If I recall correctly, we just inked a deal with Romania for another one. That's a pretty good way to keep the Euros in check, right? The Japs similarly depend upon their petroleum lifeline to the Middle East. See Chalmers Johnson's Sorrows of Empire: Militarism, Secrecy, and the End of the Republic (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0805070044/102-1899152-2251335?v=glance).

Starr
11-05-2005, 05:18 AM
They were peacefully breaking into a workshop? What does that mean? lol. It sounded pretty much like their death was a result of their own stupidity. It is really not extremely complicated to figure that out.:rolleyes: Where is the "terrible injustice" in that? These people will obviously look for any excuse to go wild and riot. In the very least there is way too much tension right on the surface here, and situations like this just make it blow up. Wow, multiculturalism at its best and most promising.;) The mentally defective worshippers of "diversity" must be so proud.

Excorcism
11-05-2005, 08:12 AM
Your analysis is very cruel, starr. These unfortuante people haven't been given the oppurtunities of the indigenous French. If you were placed in a ghetto, how would you react to such a horrible, callous double-murder?

The French must make a more industrious economic commitment to better assimilate their newly arrived builders of a new France.

Illogical, racist banter won't change the realities of the situation one iota.

-Shane

I found out recently that witnesses claim that the police weren't even chasing the two boys that ran in the powerhouse. They were actually chasing someone else and the two boys mistakened it.

Starr
11-05-2005, 08:24 AM
I found out recently that witnesses claim that the police weren't even chasing the two boys that ran in the powerhouse. They were actually chasing someone else and the two boys mistakened it.


Let's even give the story the benefit of the doubt and assume the police were chasing them. They still chose to get themselves electrocuted. LOL. I think my dog would have more sense than to do what they did. And this is what anyone is upset about? Anyone that dumb is better off dead.:p

I saw your post, Intrepid and I will try to be nice and say they do deserve some special recognition in their passing::(

www.darwinawards.com/darwin

Watzy
11-09-2005, 02:08 PM
http://www.mwscomp.com/sounds/mp3/nevrude.mp3

:rofl:

Jimbo Gomez
11-09-2005, 02:35 PM
The scum already made an ultimatum: Sarkozy resigns or France dies. I don't like that yid at all, but that's irrelevant here. Stupid wogs thinking they own the continent.

Excorcism
11-09-2005, 03:43 PM
The scum already made an ultimatum: Sarkozy resigns or France dies. I don't like that yid at all, but that's irrelevant here. Stupid wogs thinking they own the continent.

If they made a comment like that, then France better start deportation. Those rioters are forgetting that they are on France's soil, not North Africa's. They better remind themselves of where the hell they are or else they get deported.

ironweed
11-09-2005, 04:36 PM
If they made a comment like that, then France better start deportation. Those rioters are forgetting that they are on France's soil, not North Africa's. They better remind themselves of where the hell they are or else they get deported.

Errm, I think they know quite well where they are, and that where they are is nowhere in the Arab world. Had they made such demands in any country I can think of in the Arab world, from Morocco through Iraq, I'm thinking they'd be on a short list for a bullet in the back of the head. Perhaps prefaced with a bit of recreational torture, and possibly with the same treatment extended to innocent relatives out to their third cousins. And I'm thinking these twits are very aware of all of this.

Though perhaps I'ver overstating the case when it comes to countries like Morocco or Egypt, I don't think I am in Lybia, , Kuwait, Sudan, Algeria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia or Syria. Not sure about Tunisia, or the piddly little states on the Arabian peninsula like Yemen or the United Arab Emirates.

Excorcism
11-09-2005, 04:40 PM
Errm, I think they know quite well where they are, and that where they are is nowhere in the Arab world. Had they made such demands in any country I can think of in the Arab world, from Morocco through Iraq, I'm thinking they'd be on a short list for a bullet in the back of the head. Perhaps prefaced with a bit of recreational torture, and possibly with the same treatment extended to innocent relatives out to their third cousins. And I'm thinking these twits are very aware of all of this.

Though perhaps I'ver overstating the case when it comes to countries like Morocco or Egypt, I don't think I am in Lybia, , Kuwait, Sudan, Algeria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia or Syria. Not sure about Tunisia, or the piddly little states on the Arabian peninsula like Yemen or the United Arab Emirates.

I'm saying they should be grateful....rather than blow up everything and everyone.

Starr
11-09-2005, 05:21 PM
Those rioters are forgetting that they are on France's soil, not North Africa's. They better remind themselves of where the hell they are or else they get deported.

Are they? If they were still in some of the countries they come from they would not be allowed to run wild like uncontrolled children doing whatever they want.

Excorcism
11-09-2005, 06:56 PM
Are they? If they were still in some of the countries they come from they would not be allowed to run wild like uncontrolled children doing whatever they want.

I'll refer to post 19 for clarification. I meant that they should be damn grateful they're allowed to live in a nation that doesn't treat them as harshly as their native country. I bet no one taught them how Democracy works through voting rather than the barrel of a gun...depending on who you speak to.

Felix the Cat
11-10-2005, 01:20 AM
This is a common misunderstanding in the West concerning Arabs

Remember that these were originally a nomadic people, so they just don't have the same sense of "my land" and "your land" that Europeans and Americans do

To Arabs, "Arabia" is anywhere in the world that Arabs live in significant numbers, and they'll raise hell no matter which country they're in

On the other hand, this also explains why they're such worthless soldiers: Arabs don't consider it shameful to run from danger if they can escape carrying their material wealth with them

Even Arabs who have lived for centuries in the same place still have this mentality