she is so fuckin' perfect

[Anima Eternae]

so one of my friend's friend's knew this half asian girl and they were talking about setting me up with her

shit happened and it still hasn't happened, due to various circumstances




So i'm at a football-eve party and I'm talking to this guy and I mention I'm half vietnamese...so he tells me i should meet one of his half viet friends



ITS HER


and she's so fucking perfect. almost everyone at the party is lookin' at her. I feel like ass because I'm shitfaced, I've got a ghetto "FUCK (rival school)" shirt on, and I hadn't shaved in a while.


she is divine, and this isn't how we were supposed to first meet. I feel like ass.


I am an attractive guy I think, but she is even better looking than in the photos my friend sent me. She could literally have any guy she wants. But she also seems down to earth (and is kind of nerdy). She has a fuck ton of "guy friends" who were always around her. No doubt they all wanna get with her, but they've obviously nestled their way to the friends zone.


I don't want to end up like them. Her friend told me they were having a party on saturday night and I could come....she'll probably be there. But I've only known him for about 2 hours. What should I DO?


GIVE ME YOUR FUCKING INPUT







I had been planning everything for our first encounter...and it all gets shot to hell because she's at this party I'm at. OUT OF 25,000 KIDS? ARE YOU SHITTIN GME


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[Intrepid]

NO BABE POSTS.

Thread closed!!!

[Anima Eternae]

I could attach a picture of her, and then your mocking post would probably become a reality. :-/

[Intrepid]

I could attach a picture of her, and then your mocking post would probably become a reality. :-/

True. Only serious threads allowed in this lounge! :rofl:

[Excorcism]

alright, here's what you do...introduce yourself!

Does she even know you yet? Hell, get to know her and just go up to her. It's now or never, do or die. She has a ton of guy friends who she probably just considers friends and will probably always consider as friends. Don't end up like them. Just go out there and be direct. Get to know her and just talk with her the entire time. Then by the end of the night, if things seem to go well, then get her number. Problem is, knowing our luck, shit will go wrong and things end up blowing up and people are massacred in the process. Yet, if you're not going to take any risks, you'll get nowhere in life. So keep in mind that not talking to her is the same as being turned down. So just shoot for it and if she doesn't like you, call her a lesbo and walk off :p

[Jimbo Gomez]

This is not a babe thread. I 'reopened it' :p.

[Jonathan]

Ah, it feels so good to read a thread like this. Anyway, you've just asked the 2nd most difficult question in the history of mankind(the 1st being: What do I do when I've done everything right, and it still didn't work?). First of all, you've got to put the ground work in: Talk to your friends, and their friends(the ones that know her), and the guy that you met at the party. Get as much info. off them about her as possible - what she likes, what she doesn't like etc. Then find out exaclty what sort of party it is tonight - where it's on, who's going etc. Make sure to go their with your best friends(they judge you by your company). Have your friends line you up to look good where she can see you(I kow it's clichéd, but if she sees you making your friends laugh, it'll look good). Female friends are particularly good at this. Eventually you'll get to talk to her, use the info. that you've built up...try not to stick your foot in it.

P.S. I'm probablly far too late with this post.

[Anima Eternae]

alright, here's what you do...introduce yourself!

Already did.


Get to know her and just talk with her the entire time.

I tried. But every 2 minutes one of her stupid friends would drunkenly barge in and hijack the conversation or something along those lines.


Then by the end of the night, if things seem to go well, then get her number.

Well her friend is throwing a party on Sat night, and he said I could come. I probably need to show up so I can meet her again. Hopefully if those assholes aren't hijacking all our conversations I'll ask her out to some harmless activity (not dinner yet) and if she says yes, then go for the cell phone...


So just shoot for it and if she doesn't like you, call her a lesbo and walk off :p

What's funny is I had seen her picture before I met her. She looked pretty, and I spent like an hour trying to pick out her flaws that the camera might have hidden. After all, if she was less attractive (but still pretty nevertheless) I'd have an easier time. It's all about the playing field.

Unfortunately, she looks like like a goddess in real life. I couldn't even find a single god damn flaw on her face. In other words, though I most definately consider myself an attractive guy, she seems way out of my league.

As for the guy who's throwing the party, it's his b-day and he said I could come...but I've only known him for a few hours (tonight). I hope showing up wouldn't be too weird considering we don't really know each other that well.


The only person who knows I'm romantically interested in this chick is the girlfriend of the guy who's having this party...but she's not around for the next two weeks. Talking to her friends about hooking up with her seems kind of asshole-ish because I don't really know any of them that well (except for his gf, who as I said is out for a few weeks).

[Jonathan]

Already did.
How did she react? You need to pick up on every single detail.

I tried. But every 2 minutes one of her stupid friends would drunkenly barge in and hijack the conversation or something along those lines.
What did you try talking about? How did she like it? Did she like her friends butting in? You need to figure out what she likes (then again, don't put yourself out just to please her...).

P.S. Does she ever get waisted drunk? Has she a history of promiscuity :D

Well her friend is throwing a party on Sat night, and he said I could come. I probably need to show up so I can meet her again. Hopefully if those assholes aren't hijacking all our conversations I'll ask her out to some harmless activity (not dinner yet) and if she says yes, then go for the cell phone...
What kind of harmless activity?

Unfortunately, she looks like like a goddess in real life.
:rofl:

she seems way out of my league.
Well then there's two things you can do:
1)Never talk to her and dream about what could have been.
2)Get your "dutch courage" up with plenty of booze before talking to her.

Or you can take the risk...

As for the guy who's throwing the party, it's his b-day and he said I could come...but I've only known him for a few hours (tonight). I hope showing up wouldn't be too weird considering we don't really know each other that well.
You need to find out all you can about this guy too...that way, when you two meet again, you can fool him into thinking that you know each other better.

The only person who knows I'm romantically interested in this chick is the girlfriend of the guy who's having this party...but she's not around for the next two weeks.
I thought you said your friend's friend's were trying to set you up with her?

Talking to her friends about hooking up with her seems kind of asshole-ish because I don't really know any of them that well
It depends on what kind of girls they are.

[Anima Eternae]

How did she react? You need to pick up on every single detail.

Hard to tell. I was intoxicated, and our conversation (when we could have one uninterrupted) seems normal.

I was recalling an anecdote about reactions I got to an editorial in the school newspaper, and I think she distinctly enjoyed my impression of ghetto black females (she asked me to do it for a few people who walked by...). Normally I wouldn't do such things upon meeting a girl, but I was drunk.

Once again, I didn't look my best. Hadn't shaved in a while, scruffy hair, ghetto "FUCK RIVAL SCHOOL" t-shirt. I wasn't expecting to see her here; it was a complete coincidence. I would have worn a nice shirt and shaved had I known. But I just shaved tonight (and cut my neck in the process, so I'm bleeding all over the place now)...so if I see her again at this guy's party I'll be looking much better.

Did she like her friends butting in?

I dunno. They've known each other for years, so she seemed to flow with them quite well (both male and female).

You need to find out all you can about this guy too...that way, when you two meet again, you can fool him into thinking that you know each other better.


No, he knows we just met. I'm going to feel strange attending his b-day party since I've only known him for a few hours. But she'll be there, mostly likely.

I thought you said your friend's friend's were trying to set you up with her?


Yeah, my friend is that girl who gone. Her friend is that guy (boyfriend). So the girl I like is the friend of friend's boyfriend. The girl who is gone is the one who was telling me about her to set us up, but obviously shit happened and I met the girl first...

It depends on what kind of girls they are.

That's the problem. ALL OF HER FRIENDS THERE (well, most) were GUYS.

[Jonathan]

Hard to tell. I was intoxicated, and our conversation (when we could have one uninterrupted) seems normal.
Intoxicationed eh? ...Alcohol, the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems(Homer Simpson).

I was recalling an anecdote about reactions I got to an editorial in the school newspaper, and I think she distinctly enjoyed my impression of ghetto black females (she asked me to do it for a few people who walked by...)..
That could a good sign, or else she might have been trying to "pass you on" to the other people.

Once again, I didn't look my best. Hadn't shaved in a while, scruffy hair, ghetto "FUCK RIVAL SCHOOL" t-shirt. I wasn't expecting to see her here; it was a complete coincidence. I would have worn a nice shirt and shaved had I known. But I just shaved tonight (and cut my neck in the process, so I'm bleeding all over the place now)...so if I see her again at this guy's party I'll be looking much better.
I wouldn't be surprised if she wasn't at the party...it'd be just typical.

I dunno. They've known each other for years, so she seemed to flow with them quite well (both male and female).
Make friends with them too. That's another good way of getting around to her.

No, he knows we just met. I'm going to feel strange attending his b-day party since I've only known him for a few hours. But she'll be there, mostly likely.
Do you have friends that know him? Anything? Make a connection with him.

Yeah, my friend is that girl who gone. Her friend is that guy (boyfriend). So the girl I like is the friend of friend's boyfriend. The girl who is gone is the one who was telling me about her to set us up, but obviously shit happened and I met the girl first...
The best laid plans of mice and men.

That's the problem. ALL OF HER FRIENDS THERE (well, most) were GUYS.
You'll just have to make friends with them too.

[Excorcism]

Alright then...just keep talking to her, and then ask if you two can move somewhere else to talk. Infatuations are a bitch, so if you really like the girl, don't ever stop in trying to get her. If she say's no....well then you'll have a much easier time to point out her flaws (hopefully). Anyways, it's nice to have help from other girls, but you only need one person's help, and that's the girlfriend of that friend. Sucks she won't be able to help you for two weeks, it could definitly help in convincing the girl and her friends could separate that girl's friends so you two can have some private time. It almost seems like the friends are crashing on purpose because they know you're making a move.

[Anima Eternae]

Now my big decision is whether to show up to this guy's party.

I need to call him to get the address. But I think from his POV this might be very strange to show up to his party because I won't know many people there.

[1-800]

Walk up to her and tell her that she's under arrest.

When she asks for what, say "For stealing my heart."

:hump:

[jcs]

Seduction is very easy when it's not the goal itself. Ted Bundy always got his woman...

[Excorcism]

Now my big decision is whether to show up to this guy's party.

I need to call him to get the address. But I think from his POV this might be very strange to show up to his party because I won't know many people there.

You don't have to stay past an hour or two. Just go there and say "hi" to your friend. Then talk to the girl and make your move. It's do or die. To not go is the same as being rejected. YOu'll never know unless you try with all your might.

[Anima Eternae]

Just go there and say "hi" to your friend.

Well, that's the problem. The person I know best who would be there is out for two weeks. It's her boyfriend's party. I met him and he mentioned the party, but I don't really know him. I wouldn't really know anyone at the party.

I'm worried that I'll seem like a loser calling him/showing up to a party where I don't know anyone. I hate situations like that.

To not go is the same as being rejected. YOu'll never know unless you try with all your might.

I'm a shy guy. And honestly, I think this chick is out of my league (at least physically). I'm handsome, but she is parfait.

Plus my friend will probably be able to do something when she gets back, so hopefully this isn't the end-all be-all. But that is two fucking weeks from now. Arghhhhhhhhhh.. All this brooding and I'll probably take the easy way out. :-/

[Helios Panoptes]

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a344/80srock/emo.gif

[Starr]

Well, that's the problem. The person I know best who would be there is out for two weeks. It's her boyfriend's party. I met him and he mentioned the party, but I don't really know him. I wouldn't really know anyone at the party.

I'm worried that I'll seem like a loser calling him/showing up to a party where I don't know anyone. I hate situations like that.

If I was in this situation I would just show up at the party with a few of my friends(not a lot, just maybe 2 or 3), then you won't have to feel stupid because you are alone at a party where you don't know anyone. I would not really think bringing a few people along would be a big deal, what are they going to do kick you out? And being shy is not really too much of a problem when alcohol is involved, no one is shy for very long when they have been drinking.:p It might be a cool way to meet new people too.

[Anima Eternae]

Yeah, maybe his birthday party will be more of a "PARTY" and not just a get together for his close friends. Then I can bring some of my friends and it'll be better.


If my friends dont wanna go (or it's a private party), I won't go. Plus once I get there I'l have to actively fight just to hold a conversation with her because her stupid friends are going to be interrupting us every two seconds. I don't really think I have a huge chance of success, though. This girl is so amazingly attractive, and she isn't a ditz. :(

[Geist]

Well step one, whether you think you can get her or not, act like you can, dont show any sign of what you may be thinking. In fact start thinking you can get her, why the fuck not, if youre fairly good looking and are a good bloke you can get in there, girls will get with less attractive blokes if they are cool guys.

Basically my advice, you aint got the right attitude of someone who really wants her, think back in the day, if a man wanted a women, he wouldnt stop until he got her, thats how you should see it.

[Starr]

I absolutely hate trying to talk to someone when all of their friends are around. You know when you leave they are going to be talking about you. LOL

[Anima Eternae]

I absolutely hate trying to talk to someone when all of their friends are around. You know when you leave they are going to be talking about you. LOL

Yep. And considering they're guys who would obviously jump her bones given the opportunity, you can bet nothing they say is going to be pleasant.

[Excorcism]

Truth be told, I'm a shy person as well, but when you're in a do or die situation, I say "take out your guns and start firing." Ask if you can bring a friend with you if you dont want to go alone. Just say you felt like hanging out since you're bored or something. Then you can make your move. Girls aren't really looking for a man with perfect looks...they know he's already married, lol. Just act cool and go up to her at the party. If you can't get a friend to come, then there is no real harm, I guess, of not going, but it's still an oppurtunity missed. You'll thank yourself for going. What better things do you have to do?

[Anima Eternae]

I decided not to go. I figured it would be inappropriate to call and show up to a guy's birthday party who I've known for less than a day.

Plus my friends were crunked on wine, and my town is currently in a state of riot...



I'll find a way to meet her again. I have to.

[Excorcism]

I decided not to go. I figured it would be inappropriate to call and show up to a guy's birthday party who I've known for less than a day.

Plus my friends were crunked on wine, and my town is currently in a state of riot...



I'll find a way to meet her again. I have to.

Of course there will be other oppurtunities, especially when your friend returns after two weeks to help you out.

[Anima Eternae]

Yeah. In hindsight I think it would have been best that I NOT meet her last night. I was drunk, and I didn't look too hot.

My friend was going to set us up on a meeting. Now that we've already met in less than favorable circumstances, I obviously didn't leave the best impression I could.



I am going to be totally obsessed with this girl until I find out flat out she doesn't like me.

[Excorcism]

Yeah. In hindsight I think it would have been best that I NOT meet her last night. I was drunk, and I didn't look too hot.

My friend was going to set us up on a meeting. Now that we've already met in less than favorable circumstances, I obviously didn't leave the best impression I could.



I am going to be totally obsessed with this girl until I find out flat out she doesn't like me.

You'll knwo for sure when you're friend steps in to find out. Just try and make sure that the girl you're after doesn't know that you're friends with the person you're sending in for recon. You want to know the absolute truth from this girl and hold back nothing.

[Anima Eternae]

Just try and make sure that the girl you're after doesn't know that you're friends with the person you're sending in for recon.

Too late. I brought her up as a common discussion point...


You want to know the absolute truth from this girl and hold back nothing.

I agree.

I'm just so fuckin' frustrated I could have made a much better impression. I would have done my hair, shaved, and worn better clothes. Being sober would have been plus. You only get to make a first impression once, and this came out of thin-fucking-air...

[Jimbo Gomez]

What kind of man leaves the house without shaving first?

tss

[Ace Rimmer]

What kind of man leaves the house without shaving first?

tss

Serbian man.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v690/krilnik/Serbs.jpg

http://www.yu-kosarka.com/images/yu-kosarka%20(2).jpg

[Jimbo Gomez]

They look like pornstars from the 1970s.

[Jonathan]

Seduction is very easy when it's not the goal itself. Ted Bundy always got his woman...
^That's so true that I think it should be pointed out again.

[Jonathan]

It's do or die.
Incorrect. So long as you maintain the link with the girls friend(your friend's friend) then you'll have other chances...not that you should back out, just don't let this one night be the be-all and end-all.

To not go is the same as being rejected.
^Without the humiliation and social death of course.

[Jonathan]

[QUOTE=starr You know when you leave they are going to be talking about you. LOL[/QUOTE]
So long as you're sure they'll like you, so be it.

[Jonathan]

I am going to be totally obsessed with this girl until I find out flat out she doesn't like me.
It wont stop then either.

[Jonathan]

I'm just so fuckin' frustrated I could have made a much better impression.
Maybe she wont expect so much of you next time, then when you do show up (all beautified), she'll be pleasantly surprised (or else she'll know that you're after her, or that...).

[Anima Eternae]

Maybe she wont expect so much of you next time, then when you do show up (all beautified), she'll be pleasantly surprised (or else she'll know that you're after her, or that...).

Yeah, that's what I'm hoping for...assuming I didn't make such a bad impression she isn't interested.

[Anima Eternae]

I talked to my friend (the one who is gonna be out for another week) for about an hour on the phone.

She said she's going to try to talk to her boyfriend about what she thought of me. But she said I should NOT talk to her boyfriend about setting me up with this girl. Apparently he's very protective of her...and he used to also have a big crush on her. :o

[Banat]

What kind of man leaves the house without shaving first?

tss
Serbian man.

Or Croatian women :D :

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/695/ponosanstosamhrvat1ew.th.jpg (http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/695/ponosanstosamhrvat1ew.jpg)

[Banat]

Anima Eternae:

I don't want to put you down, but your case doesn't look promising at all :D. However, I'm on your side and wish you best luck. At least you didn't give it up in the first place, which is for every respect.

[Anima Eternae]

I don't want to put you down, but your case doesn't look promising at all

I'm scared the boyfriend might lie to my contact about how the girl feels...being so protective and all.

[Anima Eternae]

To make a long story short:


I GOT PWNED.

[Excorcism]

To make a long story short:


I GOT PWNED.

wtf happened?

[OVERWATCH]

[...]and she's so fucking perfect[...]

Ah, she has red hair?

Nice ;)

[1-800]

To make a long story short:


I GOT PWNED.

That is better than never knowing if it would have worked.

[Excorcism]

Ah, she has red hair?

Nice ;)

Ah yes, redheads. :D

I bet the girl animae is talking about has black hair and blue eyes.

[Kodos]

NO BABE POSTS.

Between this and the hacks...

[Anima Eternae]

No, she has brown hair and brown eyes.


But she's a stupid stuck up bitch.



Shot down like a motherfucker. Fuck her.

[Starr]

details, anima, details. We are waiting.

[Anima Eternae]

my friend called her to get her opine on me


apparently she thought i was "scary" and i "freaked her out"

also said i was acting like a drunk



BECAUS EMAYBE IT WAS A PARTY AND I WAS DRUNK YOU BITCH



god damnit. my friend knows like 8 other eurasian girls, but they're all up in maryland


fucking stuck up bitch

[Anima Eternae]

the potential is over with her, apparently

[Starr]

apparently i was "scary" and "freaked her out", i also seemed "drunk"

From your net personality that seems about right. I had you pegged as a serial killer in the making for a while now. Will this girl be your first victim or has there already been others?:p

[Anima Eternae]

ouch, starr


i may not know you personally, but that still hurt :P

[Billy Score]

this is what you get for your drunken debauchery.

However i'd like to point out any girl with lots of guy friends is something i would be very cautious around. the best girl is one with very few friends and preferably they be girls if any.

[Starr]

While I actually hang out a little more with my female friends, I have much more male friends then females and I always have. Males are easier to get along with and there is usually less drama. The only real problem(and one that can produce drama:p ) is when either I or they begin to want to be more than friends. which is obviously bound to happen from time to time. But if a guy can't accept that I have male friends(the same guys that this bothers seem to always be the ones that have plenty of female friends) then that suggests, at least, IMO, more of a problem with him rather then me or any of my male friends. I figure if a guy doesn't trust me enough to realize that I am not going to be:hump: other males then what the hell is he with me for?

[Excorcism]

hey Anima, do what I do. Basically just have a night out of drinking and bring two packs of cigs with you because you're going to be handing out alot with your friends. Then just have a huge party or something where you get drunk. Then talk about how that girl will end up in the worst way imaginable and her future boyfriend sells her off to the sex slave movement in Taipei because he couldnt cover the loan from the LoanSharks. It will definitly help you forget all about her if you just think up how miserable she will be in her future because of how she held a negative and unfair opinion of you. Remember! Lot's of drinking. :D

[Billy Score]

hey Anima, do what I do. Basically just have a night out of drinking and bring two packs of cigs with you because you're going to be handing out alot with your friends. Then just have a huge party or something where you get drunk. Then talk about how that girl will end up in the worst way imaginable and her future boyfriend sells her off to the sex slave movement in Taipei because he couldnt cover the loan from the LoanSharks. It will definitly help you forget all about her if you just think up how miserable she will be in her future because of how she held a negative and unfair opinion of you. Remember! Lot's of drinking. :D

You are clearly bound for hell, just like your feces eating sodomite friend, anima.

[Jonathan]

No, she has brown hair and brown eyes.


But she's a stupid stuck up bitch.



Shot down like a motherfucker. Fuck her.

On a quiet street where old ghosts meet
I see her walking now,
And away from me so hurriedly
My reason must allow.
That I had loved, not as I should
A creature made of clay,
When the angel woos the clay, he'll lose
His wings at the dawn of day.

[Jonathan]

the potential is over with her, apparently
...only if you give up.;)

[IZVN]

Post a picture of her now since you aren't going to be dating her.

[Anarch]

However i'd like to point out any girl with lots of guy friends is something i would be very cautious around. the best girl is one with very few friends and preferably they be girls if any.

Here we disagree. Have you heard of the ladder theory of female psychology? Let's say the situation is that of above: a girl has a lot of guy friends. No doubt they're all trying to get down her pants. The fact that they haven't means they won't. A girl has two 'ladders' - a friends ladder and a boyfriend ladder. Being a good friend does not equate to being high on the boyfriend ladder. There's a website that discusses it, typed up by the guy who thought it up. It makes pretty good sense IMO. I don't have a link on me and ight now I've gotta head off to uni for my last exam, but seek it out, Maz and Anima.

[Geist]

Thats true Lucifer, makes sense anyway. Most girls I ever had any luck with had guy friends, and most girls I am friends with would certainly have two tiers.

[Milesian]

This thread has brightened my day :)

[Kodos]

No, she has brown hair and brown eyes.


But she's a stupid stuck up bitch.



Shot down like a motherfucker. Fuck her.

A recent innovation given that previously I had no luck with women... Its all about greeting them with "gigity gigity gigity, ALLRIGHT"

[Kodos]

No, she has brown hair and brown eyes.


But she's a stupid stuck up bitch.



Shot down like a motherfucker. Fuck her.

If you really hate her photoshop her picture onto porn and have your agent put the images at conspicious public places late at night.

[Excorcism]

Here we disagree. Have you heard of the ladder theory of female psychology? Let's say the situation is that of above: a girl has a lot of guy friends. No doubt they're all trying to get down her pants. The fact that they haven't means they won't. A girl has two 'ladders' - a friends ladder and a boyfriend ladder. Being a good friend does not equate to being high on the boyfriend ladder. There's a website that discusses it, typed up by the guy who thought it up. It makes pretty good sense IMO. I don't have a link on me and ight now I've gotta head off to uni for my last exam, but seek it out, Maz and Anima.

It makes sense to a degree, though not all girls are really the same in how they think, lol. I knew a girl who had alot of guy friends and basically ended up dating all of them...but then again, I think she would have dated just about anyone. So I guess it goes on standards at that point. However, she knew this one guy friend since childhood and for the longest time, she always considered him a friend, even when he displayed interest in dating her. it wasn't until about a year or two later she decided to go out with him.

[Excorcism]

A recent innovation given that previously I had no luck with women... Its all about greeting them with "gigity gigity gigity, ALLRIGHT"

haha, Quagmire.

gigity gigity gigity

Woman on bed: Hey Quagmire? I have a question for you. What's your occupation?

Quagmire: And I have a question for you. What are you still doing here?

[Kodos]

haha, Quagmire.

gigity gigity gigity

Woman on bed: Hey Quagmire? I have a question for you. What's your occupation?

Quagmire: And I have a question for you. What are you still doing here?

I only started trying this three weeks ago... while my opprutunities for follow up are limited due to being out of school and living back at home( I will probably have a real job soon I could move out now but I'd have no savings...) they definitely all flirt with you after doing that( yes even if they don't know family guy once you briefly explain the context) and hug you when you go home( I never used to get that...).

Quagmire is a genius.

[Billy Score]

Here we disagree. Have you heard of the ladder theory of female psychology? Let's say the situation is that of above: a girl has a lot of guy friends. No doubt they're all trying to get down her pants. The fact that they haven't means they won't. A girl has two 'ladders' - a friends ladder and a boyfriend ladder. Being a good friend does not equate to being high on the boyfriend ladder. There's a website that discusses it, typed up by the guy who thought it up. It makes pretty good sense IMO. I don't have a link on me and ight now I've gotta head off to uni for my last exam, but seek it out, Maz and Anima.
I have heard this and it make sense, i read the whole article awhile ago. But i just don't like dealing with girls who have dozens of cuddle bitches, its annoying.

[Anima Eternae]

But i just don't like dealing with girls who have dozens of cuddle bitches, its annoying

Cuddles whores are the worst. You should only "cuddle" with your significant other. Unfortunatly, girls just wanna be touched, and too many stupid guys are willing to oblige without realizing they still have no chance.

[OVERWATCH]

Cuddles whores are the worst. You should only "cuddle" with your significant other. Unfortunatly, girls just wanna be touched, and too many stupid guys are willing to oblige without realizing they still have no chance.

Well, different personalities require different approaches, so a girl who wants to get all cuddly-wuddly isn't necessarily the type to pop the "I just wanna be friends" line. Some assertivness is mandatory if you really want what you desire though.

[1-800]

Since Anima is using this thread to bitch about problems with women-folk....

The girl I was (for all intents and purposes) engaged to just decided to take time off to 'evaluate our relationship.'

While there are several (stupid, gay) reasons for her doing this, the final straw was, apparently, when I sent her a copy of jcs's essay (http://anus.com/zine/articles/j_c_sturk/sympathy/) to try to dissuade her from going back to Sierra Leone this summer and working at a free clinic.

Man, A.N.U.S. is a real home-wrecker.

:(

That essay is still damn good, though.

[OVERWATCH]

http://trippedabeauteousmaiden.ytmnd.com/

[1-800]

That's the plan, man.

[Billy Score]

Usually if the rare occasion comes up where a female stands a chance with me i simply lay down the law plain and simple. Either we go in one direction or she goes back from whence she came. I have no time to waste playing guessing games as to whether or not she "wants to just be friends."

[Jonathan]

Usually if the rare occasion comes up where a female stands a chance with me
....:rofl:

[Anima Eternae]

http://trippedabeauteousmaiden.ytmnd.com/

Holy crap, that's so true.

[Anima Eternae]

Well, different personalities require different approaches, so a girl who wants to get all cuddly-wuddly isn't necessarily the type to pop the "I just wanna be friends" line. Some assertivness is mandatory if you really want what you desire though.

What a pain in the ass. With my last girlfriend there was non of that. I didn't have to sweat about making moves because she did it first.


I realize this is the exception...

[Excorcism]

What a pain in the ass. With my last girlfriend there was non of that. I didn't have to sweat about making moves because she did it first.


I realize this is the exception...

yes, but a beautiful exception.

[Billy Score]

....:rofl:
laugh all you want prick, its true.

[jcs]

Since Anima is using this thread to bitch about problems with women-folk....

The girl I was (for all intents and purposes) engaged to just decided to take time off to 'evaluate our relationship.'

While there are several (stupid, gay) reasons for her doing this, the final straw was, apparently, when I sent her a copy of jcs's essay (http://anus.com/zine/articles/j_c_sturk/sympathy/) to try to dissuade her from going back to Sierra Leone this summer and working at a free clinic.

Man, A.N.U.S. is a real home-wrecker.

:(

That essay is still damn good, though.
Glad you liked the essay. Working on another right now, similar in theme, but far better.

http://trippedabeauteousmaiden.ytmnd.com/
Is that Boyd Rice?

[OVERWATCH]

Is that Boyd Rice?

Indeed, it is. ;)

[Excorcism]

Indeed, it is. ;)

Anyway you can find the lyrics to that poem? I couldn't find it except Redbeard's book, but I don't want to buy it.

[Excorcism]

http://trippedabeauteousmaiden.ytmnd.com/

Ok, in relation to Boyd Rice quoting Redbeard, I am trying to date this one girl I went drinking with at a bar with a couple of friends. I beleive strongly that the best way to get to her is to never give up and to reach her no matter the cost. Anyone here disagree with the notion that you should never give up with convincing a woman to love you?

[Starr]

Having a guy pursue you can be flattering and somewhat fun, but if there is just nothing there for whatever the reasons may be and he will not take no for an answer it can get annoying and will make him look a little on the pathetic side and not many woman are going to want or have any respect for a guy who is following you around like a lost puppy. That can really only lead to the guy possibly getting used for something.

If a woman does, like the guy, even a little bit I suppose it could work on rare occasions, but it could also push her away even more. And besides all that why waste so much time on one person? There are plenty of other fish in the sea.

I beleive strongly that the best way to get to her is to never give up and to reach her no matter the cost. Anyone here disagree with the notion that you should never give up with convincing a woman to love you?

[jcs]

Anyway you can find the lyrics to that poem? I couldn't find it except Redbeard's book, but I don't want to buy it.
If I recall, the only album Rice did using Redbeard's lyrics was Might!, and briefly scanning through the album, I was unable to find that poem. So it might not be Redbeard. And if it is, buy the book anyway, because it's half-decent.

Ok, in relation to Boyd Rice quoting Redbeard, I am trying to date this one girl I went drinking with at a bar with a couple of friends. I beleive strongly that the best way to get to her is to never give up and to reach her no matter the cost. Anyone here disagree with the notion that you should never give up with convincing a woman to love you?
Women say they want to be loved, but a man who fawns over a woman will most often either end up being her friend or a joke she tells her friends.

Strike up a conversation, see if you two have anything in common and can 'hit it off.' If you do, then during the conversation simply say, "Go out with me." Nothing cute, nothing feminine, just a direct command. If she says "No," cut off her head (or continue on in the conversation as if her rejection didn't phase you). Human interaction is all about putting on the right masks at the right times to get others to do what you want. Show her that you have no need of her, but that she is the object of your desire for this fleeting moment, and if she embraces the moment, perhaps your desire will not stray to another.

That is my advice. It works with all women, depending on the mask you put on during the pre-command part of the conversation.

[Professor John Frink]

Having a guy pursue you can be flattering and somewhat fun, but if there is just nothing there for whatever the reasons may be and he will not take no for an answer it can get annoying and will make him look a little on the pathetic side and not many woman are going to want or have any respect for a guy who is following you around like a lost puppy. That can really only lead to the guy possibly getting used for something.


w0rd.

A close friend of mine has been in such a p***y trance for years. :mad: He indulges her every whim, drives her around and lends her his car, and actually even wonders why he never gets any. :rolleyes: Talking sense to such people never works either.

[Helios Panoptes]

jcs is wise beyond his years. ;)

[jcs]

He indulges her every whim, drives her around and lends her his car, and actually even wonders why he never gets any.
The only reason such men 'get any' is because women 'want some.' A friend of mine is in a similar situation. His buddy profile on AIM changes daily--to a new apology. "I'm sorry"--that you met her?

[Professor John Frink]

The only reason such men 'get any' is because women 'want some.' A friend of mine is in a similar situation. His buddy profile on AIM changes daily--to a new apology. "I'm sorry"--that you met her?
Well, women never were fond of sissies, so such genes will have a slim chance of surviving and reproducing anyhow...

[Starr]

Originally posted by jcs
Strike up a conversation, see if you two have anything in common and can 'hit it off.' If you do, then during the conversation simply say, "Go out with me." Nothing cute, nothing feminine, just a direct command.

There is something in a blunt "command" like "go out with me" that sounds arrogant. The weak puppy following me around, as I mentioned earlier, is a turn off, but so is arrogance.

[Anima Eternae]

Oh come now, women LOVE arrogant guys.

[Starr]

I can't think of many qualities that could be worse.

[Anima Eternae]

Yeah, girls always say they want a "nice guy". In reality they want an arrogant and cocky jerk.

[Professor John Frink]

Yeah, girls always say they want a "nice guy". In reality they want an arrogant and cocky jerk.

Rather. And one of them will probably pipe up now and say how they really just want a nice guy. Which is still just something they say. :cool: But we're painting with too broad brushes here.

[jcs]

There is something in a blunt "command" like "go out with me" that sounds arrogant. The weak puppy following me around, as I mentioned earlier, is a turn off, but so is arrogance.
It really depends on when the man asks and the tone in his voice.

[Excorcism]

Yeah, girls always say they want a "nice guy". In reality they want an arrogant and cocky jerk.

I've noticed that with asian girls if anything. Then women wonder why they ended up with 8 kids and a deadbeat husband while the nice guy she turned down ended up marrying a supermodel and has a nice life. I love generalizations :D

[Starr]

Yeah, girls always say they want a "nice guy". In reality they want an arrogant and cocky jerk.


The worst are the arrogant and cocky jerks that pretend, at least at first, to be nice guys. A lot of women may end up dating guys like this, but I don't think many are going to want to marry them. From what I have seen arrogant and cocky jerks so easily get girls because they know how to play the game and how to not come across in that way, until they have the girl wrapped around their finger. There is nothing I like more than turning down arrogant and cocky jerks.:p

My aunt(married and divorced 3 times) has always been one of those types that think all men are in love with her. She met a guy not too long ago(who she liked a lot) who told her something to the effect of "you think you can get any man you want don't you, well you can't have me":rofl:

It really depends on when the man asks and the tone in his voice.

I would think it is still going to come across as "I am so great that you should feel priviliged to go out with me." There is a difference between confidence(a good thing) and arrogance(a very bad thing) I want to decide on my own after getting to know the guy what I have a good thing rather than having him tell me that in not so many words.

[Ace Rimmer]

Women are whores and expect to be treated as such.

[Starr]

Maz is that you?:p

[Ace Rimmer]

Maz is that you?:p


:D
.............

[Helios Panoptes]

I would think it is still going to come across as "I am so great that you should feel priviliged to go out with me."

But that is the case.

Anyone else surprised that this of all topics has made it to 11 pages?

[Excorcism]

But that is the case.

Anyone else surprised that this of all topics has made it to 11 pages?

.....no, not that surprised

[Jonathan]

Anyone here disagree with the notion that you should never give up with convincing a woman to love you?
Often, you have no choice.