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Eisenhans
10-15-2006, 07:11 PM
I want to live out my life in isolation because whenever I make friends I am constantly paranoid of them turning on me, stabbing me in the back, etc. I drive myself crazy by worrying about my girlfriend all the time and I need to know what she is doing at every single given moment or I won't be able to rest. I'm afraid of her leaving me or any of my friends becoming distant or whatever...

It's like I'm paranoid to the point of hysteria.

Should I see a psychiatrist? Do you think I suffer a disorder?

Daniel Shays
10-15-2006, 07:15 PM
Did nooneatall hijack STVRMWAFFEN's account?

PS If you spill your guts to some kike shrink you can kiss your NS credibility goodbye!

Eisenhans
10-15-2006, 07:19 PM
Don't worry-I know it's not multiple personality disorder :P

cerberus
10-15-2006, 07:20 PM
Strumwaffen , my advice would be to voice your concern to your Doctor rather than on line.
You are able to formulate the doubts that you have very well and if they are impacting on your relationships you are probably equally aware.
As far as being mentally unwell - much better taken to your GP rather than an on line forum.

Sometimes it is how we view things which are wrong (rather than a whole illness profile) , do go and see your own doctor first - this is probably the best move.

What you are asking is quite complex and cannot be answered within the information you have given - above all don't worry about something which may not actually "be".
Nip along and see your own family doctor as a first step .:)

Helios Panoptes
10-15-2006, 07:24 PM
Should I see a psychiatrist?

No, a psychiatrist will convince you with lies and drugs that your friends aren't all trying to stab you in the back and your relationships are safe, then you'll let your guard down and wind up used and alone.

Sulla the Dictator
10-15-2006, 07:25 PM
Yes, you should consult with a professional in the field.

Eisenhans
10-15-2006, 07:26 PM
Nip along and see your own family doctor as a first step .:)
I'll bet you a cookie he tells me to see a psychiatrist.

Geist
10-15-2006, 07:55 PM
I want to live out my life in isolation because whenever I make friends I am constantly paranoid of them turning on me, stabbing me in the back, etc. I drive myself crazy by worrying about my girlfriend all the time and I need to know what she is doing at every single given moment or I won't be able to rest. I'm afraid of her leaving me or any of my friends becoming distant or whatever...


You do not have a disorder, friends do stab you in the back, girls do cheat sometimes, and hell none of it matters if you are secure enough in yourself to take the rough with teh smooth. Be merry for tomorrow the booze runs out.

raven
10-15-2006, 08:04 PM
I am majoring in Psych and I can tell you first hand that jews are freakin everywhere in this field. I lost count of how many fucking Cohens, <something>bergs and <something>steins I've seen in my textbook while studying for my mid-terms. Same with my profs and others in academica. If you are going to go see a shrink, make sure its not another typical libertine Jew that is more concerned about selling you on medication rather than actually giving you real therapy. In the mean time, make sure that you keep a balanced diet. Exercise helps too. You'd be surprised how much good that does. Of course there are cases where meds have to be used but they are terribly over-used in this industry. North Americans are way too heavily medicated.

Starr
10-15-2006, 08:04 PM
I am like this also, but not to the extent you describe. What you are describing doesn't sound completely healthy, but on the other side of that, people who are too trusting are naive fools and they get used all of the time and you can usually spot a sucker like this very easily. Have you always been like this or was there some kind of incident/incidents, in particular that made you this way?

Should I see a psychiatrist? Do you think I suffer a disorder?

Whether you do or not, it is a guarantee that they will tell you that you do. Where would they be without people, and their so called problems and disorders?

Arminius
10-15-2006, 09:20 PM
See a counselor.

Sean Martin
10-15-2006, 09:28 PM
You are not paranoid you are simply insecure. You don’t need to see a psychiatrist you need to see a therapist.

A therapist is cheaper, usually white and the only real difference between a therapist and a psychiatrist is a therapist can’t prescribe non-Kosher mind numbing pills.

Besides if a girl is going to cheat on you she will even if you chain yourself to her.

Berianidze
10-15-2006, 09:32 PM
I drive myself crazy by worrying about my girlfriend all the time and I need to know what she is doing at every single given moment or I won't be able to rest. I'm afraid of her leaving me or any of my friends becoming distant or whatever
You have to let her know who's boss; you have to let her know that if she even THINKS about leaving you then you will equate your fist with her face.

Eisenhans
10-16-2006, 03:58 AM
I forgot to add-I almost constantly look over my shoulder.

I think I suffer from a harsh case of paranoia.

Sandee
10-16-2006, 04:01 AM
If it incapacitates you to the point that you find yourself always obsessing over it (far more than you yourself would consider natural) and you can't tend to other normal daily activities because of it, I'd see a counsellor/psychologist (especially if I have trust issues with close ones/friends) if I were you.

Why psychiatrist? All they do is prescribe meds most of the time.

Edit: I read how the meds sometimes make people feel worse in the long run. However, sometimes they're necessary. My one cousin would hear voices (schizophrenia) but she followed her treatment and she's doing fine now.

Eisenhans
10-16-2006, 04:02 AM
I don't think mental disorders are treatable anywho unless you get therapy. At the risk of seeming ignorant, I always thought that phsychiatrists were the only therapists one could go to. I guess not...

Sandee
10-16-2006, 04:14 AM
It's best to consult a psychologist first and if he refers you to a psychiatrist, then so be it. Psychologists can't prescribe medicines unlike psychiatrists. Psychologists do, however, provide advice and help to deal with problems of everyday living.

dirtymike
10-16-2006, 12:31 PM
I don't think mental disorders are treatable anywho unless you get therapy. At the risk of seeming ignorant, I always thought that phsychiatrists were the only therapists one could go to. I guess not...Pop a couple of zanax ,they work great !! And chicks love em too!ha ha ha Dude why would you say even go there on a forum ? All bullshit aside you need to see your family doctor , Tell him you are having some issues ( don't put this out on a forum ! I wanted to flame on ya for it but I thought ya might be serious. see your family doctor bro that's not normal. Your family doc will be your best bet. )

tempus fugit
10-16-2006, 12:52 PM
As someone with experience with a mental disorder, I would go to a therapist first, unless you are in an unbearable situation.

Avoid medication unless as a last resort.

raven
10-16-2006, 02:05 PM
I have some experience for psychiatrists and they really don't give a shit. The one I had in my childhood youth prescribed medication for me right away without even bothering to really look into my case with more depth and my parents flat out refused. He probably was a fucking jew for all I know (the elementary school recommended him). That is why if I do decide to really have a private practice later on I want to be a Psychologist. The more people I can turn away from opportunist libertine Jewish psychiatrists that want to drug up children (they really do *dominate* the field, its no myth), the better.

Mackie
10-16-2006, 02:21 PM
I want to live out my life in isolation because whenever I make friends I am constantly paranoid of them turning on me, stabbing me in the back, etc. I drive myself crazy by worrying about my girlfriend all the time and I need to know what she is doing at every single given moment or I won't be able to rest. I'm afraid of her leaving me or any of my friends becoming distant or whatever...

It's like I'm paranoid to the point of hysteria.

Should I see a psychiatrist? Do you think I suffer a disorder?

No, you dont suffer of a disorder as such but you do seem to have a distinct lack of self esteem / respect, you dont believe yourself to be desireable enough to have around and that most likely isnt quite true.

Pump up your ego, get your back straight and look in the mirror and say YOU da MAN! -That or go to a psychologist (or perhaps a therapist), not a psychiatrist.
Theyre more adept at dealing with this sort of matters.

Farkas
10-16-2006, 04:27 PM
I will not immediately recommend you a doctor or a shrink. The problem is the way you see life.

See the surprises life gives us. Don't start looking for these surprises but let them come for you. Bad experiences are a part of life and try to deal with them in your way. You must know that life is full of ups and downs and they always end up in an up sooner or later. The more problems you have, the better the ability to detect your problems and the easier it will be to deal with them.

Friends have stabbed me in the back too, but I have always remained open and I found better and more friends than ever. If friends stab you in the back, accept it and accept the fact that you are much better than them. Don't be down because some backstabbing sons of b*tch*s.

Know aswell that being paranoia can push people away from you. Please, don't let that happen. Life is a beautiful thing and it is a once in a lifetime event, because after that it will stop. You don't want to be on your deathbed reflecting your life and conclude that you haven't enjoyed it, do you? Enjoy life! Carpe Diem!

I hope I helped you a bit with this advice and know that I'll keep thumbing for you. :)

All the best...

sugartits
10-16-2006, 04:44 PM
I want to live out my life in isolation because whenever I make friends I am constantly paranoid of them turning on me, stabbing me in the back, etc. I drive myself crazy by worrying about my girlfriend all the time and I need to know what she is doing at every single given moment or I won't be able to rest. I'm afraid of her leaving me or any of my friends becoming distant or whatever...


Can the people around you tell you are like this or is it more of a personal experience?

klipgeit
10-16-2006, 04:55 PM
I want to live out my life in isolation because whenever I make friends I am constantly paranoid of them turning on me, stabbing me in the back, etc. I drive myself crazy by worrying about my girlfriend all the time and I need to know what she is doing at every single given moment or I won't be able to rest. I'm afraid of her leaving me or any of my friends becoming distant or whatever...

It's like I'm paranoid to the point of hysteria.

Should I see a psychiatrist? Do you think I suffer a disorder?


No ,you do not suffer from paranoia ,you ARE paranoia,screw your girlfriend,get a dog ,to have peace of mind/.:rofl:

Mystique
01-07-2007, 02:01 AM
I want to live out my life in isolation because whenever I make friends I am constantly paranoid of them turning on me, stabbing me in the back, etc. I drive myself crazy by worrying about my girlfriend all the time and I need to know what she is doing at every single given moment or I won't be able to rest. I'm afraid of her leaving me or any of my friends becoming distant or whatever...

It's like I'm paranoid to the point of hysteria.

Should I see a psychiatrist? Do you think I suffer a disorder?


Is this paranoia or anxiety occur to the point where it interferes with EVERY aspect of your life? You say you "want" to live out your life in isolation (a lot of people feel this way when something bad happens, but they get over it within a short time), but do you see yourself literally taking pains to avoid everything?


If yes, then see a professional like everyone's saying. Some of those things that you described are traits of some sort of type of personality disorder, but ask a professional first.

ivory bill
01-07-2007, 02:41 AM
I forgot to add-I almost constantly look over my shoulder.

I think I suffer from a harsh case of paranoia.

Are you in college? If so, the school will likely provide free counseling. If you work your company or insurance may also offer that service.

I hear that folks without resources often call and speak to suicide hot-lines and other such agencies.

It may help just to discuss your problems with someone who is trained to listen and to counsel.

Steppenwolf
01-07-2007, 09:51 AM
I drive myself crazy by worrying about my girlfriend all the time and I need to know what she is doing at every single given moment or I won't be able to rest. I'm afraid of her leaving me or any of my friends becoming distant or whatever...
Think about it: Would that really matter? If a girlfriend cheats you, and you are a loving person, you do not deserve to be with her anyway. Simply be yourself! Whoever is attracted towards your self, blessed be him. Whoever is not or remains no longer; that would be his problem not yours.

Halo
01-07-2007, 09:55 AM
No. You have just extremely low self confidence.

Crowley
01-07-2007, 02:22 PM
In the mean time, make sure that you keep a balanced diet. Exercise helps too. You'd be surprised how much good that does.


Nary were truer words ever spoken. I might add, more specifically, if you are not already you might consider being clean and sober as a primary step to mental health.

il ragno
01-07-2007, 09:29 PM
So, it's three months later....you still nuts, or what?

Keystone
01-07-2007, 09:32 PM
So, it's three months later....you still nuts, or what?
There seems to be a lot of shut-in goofy kids today.

New Scientist
01-08-2007, 03:02 AM
I want to live out my life in isolation because whenever I make friends I am constantly paranoid of them turning on me, stabbing me in the back, etc. I drive myself crazy by worrying about my girlfriend all the time and I need to know what she is doing at every single given moment or I won't be able to rest. I'm afraid of her leaving me or any of my friends becoming distant or whatever...

It's like I'm paranoid to the point of hysteria.

Should I see a psychiatrist? Do you think I suffer a disorder?

I used to be like that. Since ive been through it, and to a degree am out, I would recommend several stages. First of all if you are not regular drinking, drugs and eat well, then you Definitely DO have yourself a problem. Mostly centred round an imbalance of brain chemicals which can occur for environment/genetic reasons.

If u have money, First professional stop for this kind of problem is cognitive therapy maybe with drugs if spiralling too much. Behaviour therapy allows you to create space and humour to tune into your anxieties. Rather than let them control you. You definitely need to make a fundamental shift in living approach. Partners leave each other all the time and friends go ways anyway.

Problem number one is Figure out where u can find isolation and peace in some kind of dimension. U have to figure what that has to be.

If you are parad up like this, depending on your environment u could be a major trouble magnet. I've been it, and seen it, time and time again. SO what i'm saying is you could have some real people problems, but how can you know ? SO tone it down on trying to.

ITs possible for some to just have flashes of insight that can bring them out from this kind of state in a moment. That i think depends on, whether they ever had a whole sense of self in the first place, or a practical idea about life. If you already are sorted that way, then you could be experiencing various kind of assault on your brain chemistry. Primarily dopamine. A professional can help unravel this. But Plenty of crap pros exist. Always better to check their abilities by word of mouth

No money ?...First stop. Take time out to stablize yourself with space and reflection. Not to become totally unwary, but to feel the ability to breathe mentaly.

Make double sleeptimes a priority.

Primarily you need to have some kind of ability to enjoy living with just you. Its vital to live for yourself as you please.

A person needs to find their right social level. You may not be living in yours.

A good definition of hell. Not being able to let go.


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On a bigger scale a good illustration of the all consuming destructive potentials of paranioa

http://carolmoore.net/nuclearwar/alternatescenarios.html

What that makes me think ...right if we we fruck each other up out of paranioa..maybe as humans we arent able to do any better...so its funny really.

enjoy ourselves while we can..

Micaelis
01-08-2007, 08:03 AM
You need to go to confession. What have you done? What makes you feel so guilty that you literally manifest it in others??? No, you should not see a psychiatrist. The field is too systematic to properly deal with the misfires of human emotion.

New Scientist
01-09-2007, 04:36 AM
You need to go to confession. What have you done? What makes you feel so guilty that you literally manifest it in others??? No, you should not see a psychiatrist. The field is too systematic to properly deal with the misfires of human emotion.

Blame the person when low. Thats really helpful and manipulative. Psychiatry manipulates with drugs and CBT training at least its upfront about what its trying to do.


REligion is a system anyway. At least with the psychiatry system you have tools and interventions based on real knowledge and understanding of what the emotions involved in paranioa are.

Johnson
01-09-2007, 04:47 AM
Simple Plan should cure this angst, methinks.

Micaelis
01-09-2007, 08:09 AM
Blame the person when low. Thats really helpful and manipulative. Psychiatry manipulates with drugs and CBT training at least its upfront about what its trying to do.


REligion is a system anyway. At least with the psychiatry system you have tools and interventions based on real knowledge and understanding of what the emotions involved in paranioa are.

I am assuming that he was either abused by his family when growing up or has commited acts against others that have created a paranoiac conscience. Most likely the family structure in which he was raised was very chaotic, dysnfunctional and hostile, placing him on guard of any possible threat to his own security and well-being. Paranoia and abusive behavior are very typical results of these types of families, which are very unfortunate.

A person of this sort needs a community of people willing to ease his reintegration into society, not a shrink that confirms his own psychosis merely by being present.

todd
01-11-2007, 04:35 PM
Sprinklehopper is apparently a delivery driver, so his advice on the subject should be taken lightly.

If you have questions, you can try here (http://www.uncommonforum.com/)

New Scientist
01-15-2007, 02:22 PM
Sprinklehopper is apparently a delivery driver, so his advice on the subject should be taken lightly.

If you have questions, you can try here (http://www.uncommonforum.com/)

Not that my area is psychology, but i've been well into it. My mother is a cognitive psychologist.. Her brother a hypnotherapist. My academic sponsor and research partner a trainee psychologist. Which means i have taken part in research groups, and have a good insight into the trade.

Plus i have a great deal of personal experience in the subject, from being paranoid and getting through it, which cannot be measured.

Regarding what i do to pay bills. Its the best job. First of all the driving is part time, and i can add or drop days when i feel like. THis gives me personal reflection space, and gets me out the lab, be regularly physically active. I also found i get an ongoing insight into the environment you just cant get as a professional. This is because i'm not being deterministic and just travelling through it. A professional if they are travelling through the environment, is so confronted by people at play, defence or on performance, a lot of the time they never really get much space to see whats really going on, and in fact become overtly cynical due to just being confronted with this every moment..policemans syndrome.

You wouldn't believe the the insights i get. When people percieve you as just a "delivery driver" they do whatever they like and hide very little.

Many great ideas come when driving. I keep my research consistent by opting not to be in the system. THis has allowed my to stay on track with my projects for as long as it takes. My projects demand that i rid myself of the need for financial status and seek the way which feels right. (In Europe this is something that takes a lot of strength and is easier said than done)

I'll not to much get into why. Let just say that looking at the effects on output by those around me due to hierarchies, medical corruption, personal debt, promotion, wage hunting and inconsistent grant grazing lead me to realize that funding myself and staying out the system is the best way to go. I declined a job this year related to my business. I declined an offer to rid myself of the debt laden on me by the degree education system. I got those offers from people who read my book on brain structure. My reasoning is that if i am able to attract these offers by a process which is totally self driven, then why ruin such a process ? for what ? money ? TO get letters after my name. Everyone i know with PHD appears to operate like a copy/paste computer on data which is up to a decade out of date.

I have my own lab, library and access to resources as needed. Compared to the meagre and non creative output of my professional company who spend all their time tied up chasing details and copying each other, things are going very well. What do they have ? dull papers at best. To compensate for such creative destruction, they always have new cars, admiring daughters (and unimpressed sons) multiple properties and best of all are protected from personal liability to the damage they might do to others.

:welcome:

EDiting this because..i think this rant could be re-usable,

New Scientist
01-15-2007, 02:33 PM
I am assuming that he was either abused by his family when growing up or has commited acts against others that have created a paranoiac conscience. Most likely the family structure in which he was raised was very chaotic, dysnfunctional and hostile, placing him on guard of any possible threat to his own security and well-being. Paranoia and abusive behavior are very typical results of these types of families, which are very unfortunate.

A person of this sort needs a community of people willing to ease his reintegration into society, not a shrink that confirms his own psychosis merely by being present.



Better not to assume anything when it comes to paranioa, as it can be totally biological. Eating the wrong food, environmental toxins, living in a low light climate, sensory overload or personal genetics can make a person paranoid all by themselves.

I'll agree to a degree about psychiatry. Psychiatry can be excellent

todd
01-15-2007, 06:51 PM
Not that my area is psychology, but i've been well into it. My mother is a cognitive psychologist.. Her brother a hypnotherapist. My academic sponsor and research partner a trainee psychologist. Which means i have taken part in research groups, and have a good insight into the trade.

Plus i have a great deal of personal experience in the subject, from being paranoid and getting through it, which cannot be measured.

Regarding what i do to pay bills. Its the best job. First of all the driving is part time, and i can add or drop days when i feel like. THis gives me personal reflection space, and gets me out the lab, be regularly physically active. I also found i get an ongoing insight into the environment you just cant get as a professional. This is because i'm not being deterministic and just travelling through it. A professional if they are travelling through the environment, is so confronted by people at play, defence or on performance, a lot of the time they never really get much space to see whats really going on, and in fact become overtly cynical due to just being confronted with this every moment..policemans syndrome.

You wouldn't believe the the insights i get. When people percieve you as just a "delivery driver" they do whatever they like and hide very little.

Many great ideas come when driving. I keep my research consistent by opting not to be in the system. THis has allowed my to stay on track with my projects for as long as it takes. My projects demand that i rid myself of the need for financial status and seek the way which feels right. (In Europe this is something that takes a lot of strength and is easier said than done)

I'll not to much get into why. Let just say that looking at the effects on output by those around me due to hierarchies, medical corruption, personal debt, promotion, wage hunting and inconsistent grant grazing lead me to realize that funding myself and staying out the system is the best way to go. I declined a job this year related to my business. I declined an offer to rid myself of the debt laden on me by the degree education system. I got those offers from people who read my book on brain structure. My reasoning is that if i am able to attract these offers by a process which is totally self driven, then why ruin such a process ? for what ? money ? TO get letters after my name. Everyone i know with PHD appears to operate like a copy/paste computer on data which is up to a decade out of date.

I have my own lab, library and access to resources as needed. Compared to the meagre and non creative output of my professional company who spend all their time tied up chasing details and copying each other, things are going very well. What do they have ? dull papers at best. To compensate for such creative destruction, they always have new cars, admiring daughters (and unimpressed sons) multiple properties and best of all are protected from personal liability to the damage they might do to others.

:welcome:

EDiting this because..i think this rant could be re-usable,What does your mother do specifically?

Zander
01-15-2007, 08:35 PM
No, a psychiatrist will convince you with lies and drugs that your friends aren't all trying to stab you in the back and your relationships are safe, then you'll let your guard down and wind up used and alone.

Unfortunately, that's not far from the truth.

New Scientist
01-16-2007, 01:43 AM
What does your mother do specifically?

10 years as a cognitive therapist in the private sector for the "priory". She found her ethics conflicted. Not sure why. She Left for the public sector and runs a dept for pain management. She began career late at 40 when she recovered from cancer. That seemed to re-direct her from being a driving instructor, and she trained as a nurse. Seems like shes some kind of rocket. Now she's been published, gets asked by drug companies to give talks (although she refuses sometimes for ethics) Due to here ability to just grasp, go and lead the conversion to becoming a doctor took only a year.

People say that jews, operate like some kind of network that promote each other to be able to do these things. That may be true. I've seen it. However its not true in her case. Shes not in any jewish network, outcast from it. From what i can make out high IQ and being driven had been enough. A little networking wont go wrong. But if you network and promote crap that doesnt work, you will end up with a network of promoted crap. But i guess thats another issue.