Who was the best Star Trek captain?

[Jimbo Gomez]

Discuss. I added Pike for the sake of being complete even though he only took part in one episode.

[Banat]

Jean-Luc Picard.

[Geist]

The black one.

[Atlas]

Jean-Luc Picard.

Same here.

[Fade the Butcher]

The worst was Janeway.

[Walpurgisnachtstraum]

http://picard.ytmnd.com/

[jcs]

Star Trek is gay, but Stewart's bad-ass-ness transcends the homosexuality of the show(s).

[Jimbo Gomez]

The worst was Janeway.

By far. She had the potential to be cleaning lady for Picard, but no more than that.

[Vindex]

Hmmm....I would take Picard, but deep space 9 was the best Star Trek show in the end. But Star Wars is just better.lol

[Excorcism]

Jean-Luc Picard.

Agreed. He could probably out-box everyone on the show...except Spok, who would've taken out a gun.

[Aule]

Jean-luc Picard.

[Jimbo Gomez]

The good guy is winning. :D

[angrywhiteboy]

Janeway? Fuckin' woman armchair captain my ass.

Kirk ruled.

[Jimbo Gomez]

Welcome aboard awb. :)

[Ace Rimmer]

I voted for the Jew.

[Ambrosio Spinola]

Archer and his ballant amateurism wins :D

[brigadier Biggles]

Tough one...

Watched the TOS as a kid then started watching TNG from 1995 onwards....both Kirk and Picard are great but there has to be a winner so i choose Picard, has guts and brains while Kirk is just a drunk ladies man (james bond in space).

[Sinclair]

Picard is intelligent, careful, and played by an excellent actor.

[Niko Bellic]

Kirk was by far the best starship captain. Picard was a pussy, a double-talking diplomat that always tried to negotiate his way through sticky situations. Kirk on the other hand would rather power up the phasers, arm the photon torpedos and unleash the dogs of war instead of wasting his time talking to some alien scum bag that tried to intimidate him. And let's not forget how often Kirk ventured to the surface of alien planets and got into all sorts of subsequent adventures. Picard certainly didn't have the balls to do that. He spent most of the time in the comfort of the captains chair while Riker took all the risks. And did Picard ever take on a reptilian like the one pictured below in a no holds barred fight to the death?
http://www.70disco.com/images/gorn01.gif
I THINK NOT!
But Kirk sure did.


I agree with all of this, and I'll add to it. Kirk was also the biggest manslut in the galaxy, no other captain can compete with him. Kirk wanted to let the Klingon race go extinct before Spock talked him out of it. Kirk had the balls to throw away his career on a whim if the reason was good enough.

And Shatner single handedly raised the use of the dramatic pause to an art form that has been imitated, but never surpassed.

[Banat]

I don't see that post of Jim's.

[Felix the Cat]

Hmpf. No half-naked chicks, no damn point.

There's only one Star Trek, and that ended in 1969.

It's Kirk or it's nobody.

[Uberberserker]

Picard.

If there were only some way in the Trek Universe to genetically re-engineer Sisko into a White Man I would select him though.

Also DS9 was the best Star Trek by far filled with intergalactic race-wars, lots of action, oh and Klingons are cool Space Viking Pagans, and it even prominently featured a race who stood in for you know who...

Jew Trek:

Don Frew Asks: "How About that Anti-Semitism in Star Trek?"

Editor's Note: While Don Frew states, for the record, that he does not believe Gene Roddenberry consciously set out to depict the Jews in such an unfavorable light, he does think it is important for Star Trek viewers to understand the stereotypes that are being reinforced by these characters.

After speaking at length with a friend about the visible presence of religion in the sci-fi TV series Babylon 5--as opposed to the more secular Star Trek universe--I began wondering what happened to the Jews in Gene Roddenberry's vision of the future. First, I dismissed the question--after all, plenty of cultures and religions are noticeably absent from Star Trek. But the more I thought about it, the more I realized that Jews are present in Star Trek in the form of the Ferengi, everyone's favorite greedy schemesters. And I was shocked to realize that the Ferengi fulfill just about every stereotype attributed to the Jews by Nazis.

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Key Points about The Ferengi:
(see notes, here)

Short, swarthy and shifty-eyed

Noted for their over-sized facial features (1)

Walk with a bent-over, loping gait (2)

Widely known as crafty and cunning, rather than intelligent

All males wear distinctive headgear (3)

A wandering group of people (4)

Greedy and untrustworthy, obsessed with the accumulation of mercantile profit (5)

Merchants, money-lenders and tavern-keepers (6)

Follow an explicit, multi-point plan for the advancement of their group, generally at the expense of others (7)

Males lust after "human" women (8)

Repeatedly attempt to ingratiate themselves into "human" society through flattery and bribes

Suspected of cannibalism (9)

They are portrayed as a threat to "our" society, but this threat is not very credible and used primarily as an excuse to oppress and discriminate against them. (10)

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Furthermore:

The Ferengi are governed by a council of elders which is headed by "the Nagus." In Jewish history, the head of a clan or tribe, the head of the Sanhedrin and the President of the current state of Israel have all been referred to as "the Nasi."

The producers have almost exclusively cast Jewish actors as Ferengi.

The Ferengi are outsiders in Federation space. They are distrusted and, in many instances, hated. Jews, for their part, have endured much of the same treatment, especially at the hands of Arabs. The Arabic word for "foreigner" is "al-ferengi."



Notes

1 The Ferengi ears are referred to as "lobes" and are often substituted for "nose" in cliches such as "he has lobes for business." Therefore, the oversized feature = lobes = nose.

2 This original characterization of the Ferengi was abandoned in later depictions. Note that Jews were described as having a similar gait in order to reinforce their depiction as a beastly people.

3 With the exception of Quark, the most widely known Ferengi character, all other males seem to wear a head wrap.

4 The introduction of a Ferengi homeworld is a recent development. Original descriptions of the race listed them as wanderers forced to leave their homeland due to resource depletion.

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5 This has always been a part of the European stereotype of the "evil Jew," but the acquisition of "profit" has never included the acquisition of land. In many countries, Jews have been forbidden to own land.

A common belief among many contemporary Jews, especially Holocaust survivors, is that it is unwise to put one's wealth into land. You can be driven off of land; wealth in portable form can be taken with you. While the Ferengi definitely pursue "mercantile profit," they are never portrayed as acquiring land (e.g. planets).

6 In A Lie and a Libel, Binjamin Segal noted that "the great majority [of European Jews] pursued marginal, 'obnoxious' occupations, such as moneylending, peddling, rent collection, and tavern keeping." The only other occupation attributed to a Ferengi is that of the military.

7 The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, fabricated by the Okhrana, the Russian Czar's secret police, was presented as proof that Jews were intent on world domination at the expense of everyone else. This multi-point plan advocates lying, seduction and murder in the name of the Jewish people. Similarly, the Ferengi "Rules of Acquisition" provides an extensive multi-point plan for the advancement of the race. Some of the tenets are: 1) Once you have their money, never give it back; 10) Greed is eternal; 21) Never place friendship above profit; 34) Peace is good for business; 35) War is good for business; 60) Keep your lies consistent; 266) When in doubt, lie.

8 Refer to the Nazi propaganda film Jud Süss which describes the Jewish man's infamous lust for the Gentile woman.

9 According to Star Trek: The Next Generation Officer's Manual, background notes for the Ferengi include mention of their sharp teeth, which prompted "speculation among Federation [experts] that the Ferengi may practice a form of cannibalism, though no proof of this practice exists." Commander Riker referred to this in the pilot episode for Next Generation ("Encounter at Farpoint") noting that the Ferengi are rumored to eat their business partners. For centuries, a popular European folklore said that Jews used the blood of Christian children to make the Passover matzoh, leading to countless Passover panics and lynchings.

10 The "Jewish Threat" is an oft-repeated attempt to portray successful Jews as the reason for everyone else's misfortune. A common practice throughout the centuries.

Link (http://www.crank.com/html/crank6/crank6_trek.html)

All the problems in the Universe are caused by that shitty little planet, Ferenginar! LOL!

[hellsatan]

I liked Picard as a captain, but by far the best series was DS9 ;)

See here: http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1694

Go vote :D

Chris

[Banat]

I liked Picard as a captain, but by far the best series was DS9 ;)

I once thought: there was a WASP captain first, then they had a non-American captain, soon a black and a woman followed - what is coming next? A captain-pooftah? :D

[Jimbo Gomez]

I didn't like Archer, but I wouldn't call him a poof. :D

[Ace Rimmer]

I once thought: there was a WASP captain first, then they had a non-American captain, soon a black and a woman followed - what is coming next? A captain-pooftah? :D

William Shatner is Jewish.

[Jimbo Gomez]

William Shatner is Jewish.

But captain Kirk isn't.

[Ace Rimmer]

But captain Kirk isn't.

That is merely an act.

[Jimbo Gomez]

That is merely an act.

The character is all that matters, it's fiction after all.

[Ace Rimmer]

The character is all that matters, it's fiction after all.

The Jew has fooled you I see.

[Slavic Enforcer]

1. Kirk
2. Picard