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Jimbo Gomez
11-13-2005, 03:07 PM
Lindstedt transfer in works

By John Ford / Daily News Associate Editor
Martin Lindstedt could soon be transferred from the Newton County Jail to a state mental health facility, officials with the prosecutor's office said Thursday.

Meanwhile, court proceedings in Lindstedt's first degree statutory sodomy case have been put on hold, and 22 counts of contempt of court against the Granby resident have been set aside by Division III Associate Circuit Court Judge Kevin Lee Selby, according to court documents.

According to Jake Skouby and Bill Dobbs, assistant Newton County prosecutors, Lindstedt will be taken into the custody of the state's department of mental health and his case will be reviewed within six months.

“Jake and I agree that it's public knowledge that Martin has been committed to the Department of Mental Health,” said Dobbs. “We can't give any specifics as far as placement.”

Lindstedt will remain a ward of the department of mental health until it's determined he can contribute to his own defense, Dobbs said.

A jailer answering the telephone at the Newton County Jail said Martin Lindstedt was still in custody Friday morning.

Lindstedt was accused of inappropriately kissing a family member on the child's back, buttocks and groin sometime between March and August 2003.

In a short note delivered to the Daily News office last week by a family member, Lindstedt said he wished to be released on his own recognizance, to be able to defend himself in court, and that Judge Selby be removed from the case. He filed four court documents over the past summer and this fall asking that Judge Timothy Perigo reassign the case.

Lindstedt is in custody on $100,000 bond. Earlier this summer, he was sentenced to 660 days in the county jail for 22 counts of contempt of court for his outbursts in the courtroom.

Last week, the Neosho Daily News reported that Lindstedt had effectively been excommunicated from the Church of the Sons of YHVH, a white supremacist organization, for “writing and distributing some very disturbing ideas,” according to Pastor Morris L. Gulett. These ideas included “prion poisoning” of game animals, the “skinning alive of prisoners and execution by slow torture,” and the “gang rape of female whigger herd animals to use them as a brooding stock.”

“Now, you all may be aware that Martin Lindstedt is an ordained pastor with The Church of the Sons of YHVH and the Missouri state contact for the Legion of Saints,” Gulett said in his Aug. 9, 2005, letter titled “A Joyless Announcement,” which was posted on the church's website. “This letter is to make public that this is no longer the case. As of this moment, Martin Lindstedt's ordination as a pastor is null and void and his membership status with the Legion of Saints is revoked. I cannot in good conscience allow anyone who promotes such ungodly behavior and tactics to carry a valid ordination certificate that bears our church standard and my signature. Nor can I in good conscience allow anyone who promotes such ideas to carry a valid membership card that bears the standard of the Legion of Saints.”

Gulett added he did not believe the allegations brought against Lindstedt were valid.

“But as I stated, I cannot and I will not allow an ordained pastor of our church of an officer of the Legion of Saints to promote and endorse such vulgar, ungodly, unbiblical, unchristian practices as rape and torture. We are sons and daughters of the Most High YHVH, not street thugs.”

Gulett is no stranger to brushes with the law. In 1997, police spotted Gulett's van driving the wrong way down an Ohio street. After a 12-mile chase that ended in Beavercreek, Ohio, a suburb of Dayton, Gulett crashed his van into a police car, attempted to run an officer off of the road, and tried to run down another officer before finally crashing his van into a creek.

Gulett pleaded guilty to a charge of aggravated assault on a police officer and was sent to prison, where he was on the receiving end of a severe beating by black prisoners. This left him with a broken nose, a ruptured ear drum and a busted lip. He threatened to sue Montgomery County, but settled out of court for $30,000.

In 2002, Gulett and the late Ray Redfeairn founded the Church of the Sons of YHVH. According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, the church supports “white racial supremacy” and the foundation of a group of violent “warriors for God.”

“We stand on the principles of racial segregation and white racial supremacy,” the church's website states. “We believe that the white race are the direct descendants of the Adamic man made in the image of YHVH, in the of [sic] garden of Eden, and was placed here to be the light bearer and supreme ruling race of this lost and dying world.”

A perennial political candidate, Lindstedt has sought a number of local, county and statewide offices over the years as a Libertarian, a member of the Reform Party and as a Republican. He last sought office this past April, when he ran for Granby municipal judge and for a seat on the East Newton R-6 School Board.


http://www.neoshodailynews.com/articles/2005/11/11/news/news02.txt

Petr
11-13-2005, 03:13 PM
I reckon it's better than being in a regular prison at the hands of "colored folks".

Poor devil.


Petr

Alfred_Dunhill
11-13-2005, 03:45 PM
It took 'em this long to figure out that he's crazy?

albion
11-13-2005, 04:15 PM
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3007/martin4uk.gif ...imported from Spekeasy ;)

Felix the Cat
11-13-2005, 04:58 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Lindstedt

Alfred_Dunhill
11-13-2005, 06:20 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Lindstedt


Whose handiwork is that? Sinclair's?

Felix the Cat
11-13-2005, 06:29 PM
No idea who wrote it.

LOL @ the “gang rape of female whigger herd animals to use them as a brooding stock.” :D

He sure has a way with words...

Vindex
11-13-2005, 08:00 PM
They probably do not have a soild enough case against Lindstedt so there going to fuck around for as long as possible till they can tack together some bullshit and try to make it stick. They did the same to Hale.

Alfred_Dunhill
11-13-2005, 09:07 PM
What's with the half a beard thing?

Sinclair
11-13-2005, 09:27 PM
Child molestation is a very bad crime to be accused of.

1. People will think you're scum if you're accused of it, maybe moreso than any other crime.
2. It is REALLY FUCKING EASY for children to be led by prosecutors or cops or social workers or whatever. It is actually possible for children to be "brainwashed" by this into having "memories" of abuse, which is equal parts ironic, sad, and disgusting.
3. Grilling the kids on the stand makes the defence look REALLY REALLY BAD.
4. Congratulations: Your significant other may well leave you, you will lose your job probably, and lots of money will be spent on your defence.
5. Even if you are acquitted, there will still be lots of people who think you did it.

There are other crimes like this: Look up the "Dingoes ate my baby" case, there's a good article about it on CrimeLibrary... Despite massive incompetence by the police and the courts, the defence team being denied important evidence, the fact that it is basically proven that the mother didn't kill her child, etc, there are still people who think she did.

www.skepdic.com has stuff about "Satanic Ritual Abuse" and "Recovered Memory" that's very useful when it comes to talking about child molestation.

Starr
11-13-2005, 09:33 PM
It is actually possible for children to be "brainwashed" by this into having "memories" of abuse, which is equal parts ironic, sad, and disgusting.

Very true. I would suspect this happens a lot in custody battles, especially. Which is particularily disturbing.
Isn't this kid retarded or something, also?

Even if you are acquitted, there will still be lots of people who think you did it.

In the very least if I had kids I would never want them around someone who was accused of being a child molester. You just never know and it would not be worth taking that chance. I know a level 3, and from everything I know about him and the case and what led up to it, I am 99% sure he did not do it, but that 1% possibility will always be in the back of my mind.

Sinclair
11-13-2005, 09:43 PM
This is why I think that nobody, not the government, not the media, not private citizens, should be allowed to reveal the identity of ANYBODY, or identifying details, involved in a court case. AFTERWARDS, if somebody is convicted, and there are no appeals, THEIR identity can be revealed.

But the only other reason I can think of to put out somebody's identity is if they're on the loose and need to be caught/avoided.

Starr
11-13-2005, 09:51 PM
if somebody is convicted, and there are no appeals, THEIR identity can be revealed.

Yes, their identity can be revealed right before they are shot, hung or gassed,etc.

Vindex
11-14-2005, 12:49 AM
After seeing the show of Lindstedt life which should be called the pigs fucking destroying his family from father and on. I can not blame him for his views on dealing with pigs and there extended piglets(family).

OVERWATCH
11-14-2005, 04:09 AM
After seeing the show of Lindstedt life which should be called the pigs fucking destroying his family from father and on. I can not blame him for his views on dealing with pigs and there extended piglets(family).

The proper Lindstedtism for police is piglice.

Starr
11-14-2005, 04:15 AM
And "spawn of piglice": was what I remember Martin saying when speaking of their families.:p

Jimbo Gomez
11-14-2005, 10:24 AM
Sinclair, the classic argument against what you say is that by making things public, you allow the people to control that the courts do things by the book.

Starr
11-14-2005, 05:40 PM
Like that holds true anyway.

Jimbo Gomez
11-14-2005, 05:54 PM
Like that holds true anyway.

In an ideal state, and probably in the days of your Founding Fathers, any trial with even only idirect political consequences would have been srutinized by the media. In such a society, it is true yes, and it was written by those people. Today, it is anachronistic and even dangerous.

zenero
11-14-2005, 06:34 PM
I wished he was REALLY running for Gouvernor in the state of Missouri(where his enemy Glenn Miller currently lives). :hump:

Thomas777
11-14-2005, 09:11 PM
After seeing the show of Lindstedt life which should be called the pigs fucking destroying his family from father and on. I can not blame him for his views on dealing with pigs and there extended piglets(family).


I'm not going to presume that Lindstedt is guilty of the offense that he is charged with...but that said, I don't see this as a "railroading" either.

First of all, Lindstedt has no real following and despite the man's claims to the contrary, I really don't think that FedGov views him as a security threat. If the state or Federal government really had it in for Marty, he would have likely been charged with issuing "terrorist threats" or something of that nature...it seems like a bit of a stretch to suggest that the State would try to knock a pawn such as Marty off the board by engaging in an elaborate effort to frame him up for sexually abusing a child.

Starr
11-15-2005, 04:47 AM
From what little I know,I agree for the most part, Thomas. I don't really think anyone is going to see Martin as much of a threat. With his actions in court, among other things, he may come across as being way to unstable. And as you said he has no real following, not even the CI folks are sticking by him. Not to say whether he did it or not.

Thomas777
11-15-2005, 05:09 AM
From what little I know,I agree for the most part, Thomas. I don't really think anyone is going to see Martin as much of a threat. With his actions in court, among other things, he may come across as being way to unstable. And as you said he has no real following, not even the CI folks are sticking by him. Not to say whether he did it or not.

I'm not a doctor, but I think its pretty clear to any reasonable layman that Martin Lindstedt is very seriously disturbed and out of touch with reality.

I DO know something about competency proceedings...and while not all jurisdictions are the same, a defendant will not be bounced into psychiatric care on a whim...its a relative pain in the ass for the court to do so. Lindstedt is seriously fucked up...its not a conspiracy in this case.

What happened to Matthew Hale is not happening to Martin Lindstedt...just my .02

Jimbo Gomez
11-15-2005, 10:14 AM
Welcome back Thomas.

Sinclair
11-15-2005, 08:38 PM
It's not some big ZOG conspiracy or whatever other ridiculousness some have said it is, but if some social worker got it into their head the kid had been molested, got the kid to say yes, and then took it to the cops...

brigadier Biggles
11-15-2005, 09:46 PM
I miss Mr lindstedt.

Alfred_Dunhill
11-15-2005, 10:08 PM
First of all, Lindstedt has no real following and despite the man's claims to the contrary, I really don't think that FedGov views him as a security threat.


I think it has more to do with the fact that he was something of a gadfly and embarrassment to the local power structure.

OVERWATCH
11-15-2005, 11:30 PM
I'm not a doctor, but I think its pretty clear to any reasonable layman that Martin Lindstedt is very seriously disturbed and out of touch with reality.

I DO know something about competency proceedings...and while not all jurisdictions are the same, a defendant will not be bounced into psychiatric care on a whim...its a relative pain in the ass for the court to do so. Lindstedt is seriously fucked up...its not a conspiracy in this case.

What happened to Matthew Hale is not happening to Martin Lindstedt...just my .02

Wearing half a beard and moustache fits the profile of psychosis, which goes hand in hand with odd grooming and dress habits.

Lenny
11-19-2005, 11:20 PM
Gag Order on Lindstedt Mental Evaulation
October 7, 2005

A gag order on results of a state mental examination for Martin Lindstedt has been issued.

On Thursday, Newton County Division III Associate Circuit Court Judge Kevin Selby ordered both prosecutors and potential defense attorneys to keep mum on the results, as well as all witnesses in the courtroom. In addition to court personnel and a representative of the news media, Lindstedt’s live-in “paramour,” Roxie Frausnaught, was present in the courtroom.

Not present, however, was Lindstedt himself. Within seconds of entering the courtroom Thursday afternoon, Lindstedt questioned the court’s authority, legality, and alleged the court of having “secret proceedings.” He was then escorted from the courtroom by members of the Newton County Sheriff’s Department.

Once Lindstedt was escorted out, Judge Selby asked Ms. Frausnaught about the Granby man’s financial situation.

“Well, he don’t have hardly any assets at all,” she said.

“Would you be sworn in and answer some questions under oath?” he asked.

“I really don’t want to,” she replied.

Representing the public defender’s office, James Egan asked the court for some time to conduct an investigation into Lindstedt’s finances, asking that the court reconvene on Thursday, Oct. 20 or at a later date, if needed.

“I have no objection to the public defender’s office doing an independent investigation to determine what assets Mr. Lindstedt possesses,” the judge said.

“You don’t take it as an affront?” asked Egan.

“Not at all,” Selby replied. “I do know Mr. Lindstedt has not been able to bond.

“I don’t want this case to be languishing just because of the indigency issue,” the judge added.

Lindstedt is accused of first degree statutory sodomy. A probable cause statement alleges Lindstedt inappropriately kissed a family member on the child’s back, buttocks and groin area sometime between March and August 2003.

Lindstedt, has been acting as his own attorney in the case and has made several court appearances sporting half of a mustache and beard.

Lindstedt remains in custody on $100,000 bond and was sentenced to 660 days in the county jail for 22 counts of contempt of court.

A perennial political candidate, Lindstedt has sought a number of local, county and statewide offices over the years as a Libertarian, a member of the Reform Party and as a Republican. He last sought office this April, when he ran for Granby municipal judge and for a seat on the East Newton R-6 School Board.

This past summer, Lindstedt filed a lawsuit against former Secretary of State Matt Blunt for refusing to print Lindstedt’s nickname of “Mad Dog” on the statewide ballot in 2002 and in 2004, during the Granby resident’s bids for U.S. Senate and Missouri governor, respectively. In November, the Missouri Attorney General’s office asked that the suit be dismissed “with prejudice,” which bars the right to bring or maintain an action on the same claim or cause. An appeal of the suit was struck down by the U.S. District Court, but on Friday Lindstedt filed a handwritten motion asking that the suit be reinstated.

Lindstedt has filed, and lost, a number of lawsuits against a variety of people and entities in the past. Among these are a 1996 suit against Missouri Southern State College and the city of Joplin, in which Lindstedt sought $1.3 million from the college and $5 million from the city of Joplin for violation of his civil rights. Also during the mid-1990s, he sued the city of Granby alleging violations of his civil rights in connection with a defective equipment charge.

Lindstedt also sued the Missouri Libertarian Party in both state and federal courts for kicking the Granby resident out of the organization, and sued Newton County Clerk Kay Baum over his bid for sheriff in 1996. He has also sued Jasper County Judge Joe Shoeberl for alleged constitutional rights violations.


http://thirdpartywatch.com/2005/10/08/gag-on-lindstedt-mental-evaulation/

Crowley
11-20-2005, 12:19 AM
A perennial political candidate, Lindstedt has sought a number of local, county and statewide offices over the years as a Libertarian, a member of the Reform Party and as a Republican. He last sought office this April, when he ran for Granby municipal judge and for a seat on the East Newton R-6 School Board.

There is the motive for the local power structure to put him away.

Uberberserker
11-20-2005, 05:38 AM
The treatment Lindstedt has recieved is an outrage.

No one should be Ezra Pounded by ZOG.

Also judeo-Christians should be allowed to be in public expressing their semitic psychoses as much as possible, as their bible thumping, rantings, and ravings only encourages others to come over to my side, the Fascistic Odinists.

Tyrone_Hartlan
11-27-2005, 02:01 PM
edited,. .message