Sex ed gets a lot sexier at Canadian university

[harjit]

Sex ed gets a lot sexier at Canadian university

By Claire Sibonney
Fri Oct 20, 3:50 PM ET

An undergraduate program at Canada's august University of Toronto offers discussions on flogging, restraint, and role-play, as well as an arts course called "Queerly Canadian." But teachers and students insist it's a serious academic program that isn't simply about sex.

"It's not sexy sex sex, where we're talking about whips and chains, but we will talk about whips and chains," said graduating student Robbie Morgan, 33, who left her job teaching sex education in Chicago to attend the Sexual Diversity Studies program, one of the largest of its kind in North America.

"We'll talk about whips and chains in a political, social, cultural, religious context of sexuality and how that sexuality affects those institutions."

The Sexual Diversity program appears one of the edgier ones on offer at the university, which was founded in 1827 and is best known for its science and medical research. Alumni include Nobel Peace Prize laureate Lester B. Pearson, insulin inventors Frederick Banting and Charles Best, author Margaret Atwood and film director David Cronenberg.

The program promises an academic approach to gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender and heterosexual issues -- from history and law to the performance of sadomasochism.

"It's a very serious analytical exercise and it isn't what a lot of people think it is," director David Rayside told Reuters during a visit to the school, which is located in the original Romanesque-style University College building at U of T's leafy downtown campus.

The program, established eight years ago, got a C$1 million ($900,000) boost this week with a donation from Canadian winemaker Mark Bonham to expand the curriculum. There are plans for Canada's first undergraduate major in sexual diversity studies, and for master's and doctorate programs from 2008.

"This is a long-neglected area and Canada provides an ideal environment to take up these questions creatively," said Bonham in a statement.

The program includes a drama course called "Sexual Performance: Case Studies in S/M (sadomasochism)" and the arts and literature course "Queerly Canadian," for which one student wrote an in-depth review of a male strip show.

But it also focuses on traditional academic discussion -- from Plato to same-sex marriage, with courses like "Theories of Sexuality" and "Sexual Diversity Politics."

Canadian provinces were the first jurisdictions in North America to legalize gay marriage -- and Toronto, with one of the largest gay and lesbian communities in the world, is a perfect backdrop for such a program, said Rayside.

"This is a city that has diversified a lot, and is muddling through how to recognize that diversity in ways that are quite interesting," he said.

"We're located in the heart of a tremendous laboratory where cultural and international differences actually play a role, and that's part of what we do."

Students were keen to dispel the perception that the program caters only to activists and gays.

"The stereotype is it's a bunch of queers talking about sex and gay rights," says Kirstin Caspersen, 22, who wants to apply her degree with criminology to look at how gender and sexual issues affect people in the justice system.

Rayside said the sexual orientation of students in the program is as diverse as the studies themselves.

"I would estimate -- of course I don't ask -- that 50 percent of our students are not queer-identified by any use of that term, which is great," he said.

"A lot of the people from the university, from the president on down, think that what we're doing is important work. But there's still a lot entailed at persuading more and more people that what we're doing is legitimate."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061020/wl_canada_nm/canada_life_canada_sex_col

[raven]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061020/wl_canada_nm/canada_life_canada_sex_col
Yes that has pissed me off that my tuition is going towards paying for this kind of shit. I am far from a prude but "sexual diversity"? Wtf is that? I don't like how they are throwing in all this Queer shit in our face. I *tolerate* homosexuals but there are many of us who don't want tuition going towards paying this shit. It's fucking ridiculous. Why don't they use the funds for actual school-related things? I wonder what the Muslims (plenty of them) think about this. I would assume that they would be raising hell over this. Muslim girls especially are very timid here. Whenever they are offered condoms at frosh week, they get all scared and shit.

Universities are way too liberal but yet uninformative about sexuality. It's almost as if they promote that you can do whatever you want if you use condoms. No! It doesn't work that way. In fact condoms are only giving you 69% more protection against HIV (83% from preventing pregnancy). So protection is not enough. There are STDs such as HPV (one of the fastest growing STDs out there) that can be acquired through only skin-to-skin contact and condoms are pretty ineffective against that. Especially when most people from my experience don't use condoms when engaging in oral sex. The only effective way to protect against STDs like that is to abstain (obviously) or get you and your partner tested before having sex (with condom/birth control). Safe sex has more responsibilities attached to it than just using a condom and the pill. This isn't free love 60's anymore.

[Dr. Gutberlet]

"It's not sexy sex sex, where we're talking about whips and chains, but we will talk about whips and chains," said graduating student Robbie Morgan, 33, who left her job teaching sex education in Chicago to attend the Sexual Diversity Studies program, one of the largest of its kind in North America.

"We'll talk about whips and chains in a political, social, cultural, religious context of sexuality and how that sexuality affects those institutions."

News stories like these only reinforce the fact that liberals are the lowest of the low.

[Northern_Paladin]

Next thing you know they'll be offering this course in Spanish.

[Billy Score]

Read this on yahoo. Canada is a disgrace of a nation. If you need "sex education" chances are you shouldn't be having sex. This also shows the state of colleges. You can get a degree in anything, what a joke. That filthy "Sex ed professor" is making money by teaching people to be trash.

[sugartits]

The program includes a drama course called "Sexual Performance: Case Studies in S/M (sadomasochism)" and the arts and literature course "Queerly Canadian," for which one student wrote an in-depth review of a male strip show.

I see. The meaning of the term 'art fags' is newly revised for aptitude.

Does every subject that can be twisted into having an intellectual component warrant its own university course?

"Hi I'm looking for a career, I have a phd in Homosexual Senior Citizen studies. I wasted years and years of my fucking life"

[Thomas777]

Canada has officially become the stupidest fucking place on Earth.

[raven]

These University courses are definately becoming more and more useless by the year while tuition goes up higher and higher by the year.

Canada has officially become the stupidest fucking place on Earth.
Welcome to my life. My fucking tuition is going towards paying for that kind of shit. About 20% of the fees they rape from us every year goes into areas outside of our actual courses that we attend such as these type of special school programs/clubs whether its Islam Awareness, LGBT shit or this crap.

[Geist]

Regardless of the moral issues here there are far more important debates to be had about the legitimacy of this program. The theoritical framework seems to be Foucault, and his ever useful discourse analysis, and comboed with the centre cannot hold ideology backing it up its pretty much possible to say that any course, no matter how little it contributes to the sphere of knowledge is worth study. This is whats at the heart of this matter: essentially a decline in what is important. Sexuality is all very interesting, but this kind of study in my eyes serves only to demean it. I had more to say but I'm fairly sure at this point that these people are beyond reach.

[Pearsonite]

Whips and chains, domination and submission - rather antithetical to the stated liberal tenet of equality, are they not? Reality tends to be antithetical to liberal rhetoric.

[Commander]

In Canada, anything goes, nothing is immoral, just so long as you are not a polygomist making white babies, then you are kin folk of Hitler.

[raven]

In Canada, anything goes, nothing is immoral, just so long as you are not a polygomist making white babies, then you are kin folk of Hitler.
or you say anything considered politically incorrect, then they'll throw you in jail you evil nazi you. *mouth foams*
;)

[sugartits]

If someone says 'fucking queers' it's hate speech.
Flip it around and you get 'queers fucking', which in Canada is now an area of academic study.

The backwardsness of Political Correctness is more apparent than ever.

[raven]

Soviet Canuckistan is fucked but I still think countries like Germany and some other ultra liberal nations are more fucked than they are now.

[Northern_Paladin]

In Canada, anything goes, nothing is immoral, just so long as you are not a polygomist making white babies, then you are kin folk of Hitler.

Canada has become the worst Socialist Liberal Multicultural cess pool. It's kinda of like California up North.:rofl: Minus the high cost of prescription drugs.;)

[sugartits]

Soviet Canuckistan is fucked but I still think countries like Germany and some other ultra liberal nations are more fucked than they are now.


People will grow more and more frustrated, sales of t-shirts and stickers with offensive messages will sky-rocket.

[WAM]

News stories like these only reinforce the fact that liberals are the lowest of the low.



I take comfort in the fact that the mental disease of Liberalism,and all the faggoty,degenerate,stupid shit that accompanies it,will one day come to a well-deserved end.
The only question is whether we normal White people can regain our societies from the degenerate freaks and usurpers,or will a more brutal outside force like Islam do the job that White men no longer seem capable of doing?

If we don't put an end to this madness the Muslims or Chinese or someone else will. I'm certain of that much.

[raven]

Canada has become the worst Socialist Liberal Multicultural cess pool. It's kinda of like California up North.:rofl: Minus the high cost of prescription drugs.;)
Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, Belgium, etc. may have Canada beat... at least when it comes to Political Correctness. But Canuckistan is up there yes.

[Northern_Paladin]

Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, Belgium, etc. may have Canada beat... at least when it comes to Political Correctness. But Canuckistan is up there yes.

More politically correct, they could be. But in terms of diversity Canada beats most European nations. Especially in regards to its largest cities.

[Sandee]

Soviet Canuckistan is fucked but I still think countries like Germany and some other ultra liberal nations are more fucked than they are now.

Yes, remember that bestiality thread? Link. (http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13522&highlight=nordic+bestiality)

Hopefully, they don't extend it to include bestiality in the long run. Sexual Diversity... :rolleyes:

[Dr. Gutberlet]

I take comfort in the fact that the mental disease of Liberalism,and all the faggoty,degenerate,stupid shit that accompanies it,will one day come to a well-deserved end.
The only question is whether we normal White people can regain our societies from the degenerate freaks and usurpers,or will a more brutal outside force like Islam do the job that White men no longer seem capable of doing?

If we don't put an end to this madness the Muslims or Chinese or someone else will. I'm certain of that much.


Excellent point. I have mixed feelings on the subject of the muslims and their invasion of Europe. On the one hand I rightly see them as an ancient enemy; a scourge that should be fought to the death at all costs. On the other hand, however, I see the muslims as a force that will unseat the perverse, degenerate liberals that currently hold sway in the EU. The most ironic thing about all of this, is that the liberals push for muslim immigration, basically sealing their own doom; they'd be the first to go under sharia law.

[Geist]

Whips and chains, domination and submission - rather antithetical to the stated liberal tenet of equality, are they not? Reality tends to be antithetical to liberal rhetoric.

Delueze addressed this in Anti-Oedipus noting that many of his fellow leftists suffered from a kind of inner fascist.

[Rusty Mason]

Totally sick, sick, sick. Everyone involved in promoting this crap and anyone who takes these classes is not fit for society. What a sicko country to allow this, almost as bad as California and Massachusetts. Oh well, perhaps if the Canadians won't clean up this filth, perhaps their new Islamic masters will.

[Boleslaw]

The irony for me is that one of the few high quality radio stations in my area is the Canadian CBC-radio 2, "Classics and beyond".

I especially enjoy listening to the morning program Music and Company (http://www.cbc.ca/musicandcompany/), which plays the best damn Classical music Ive ever heard. Not to mention the host shares interesting information about the various compositions and composers he plays; rather than ramble on and on like most morning DJs.

Then the night program sometimes has some interesting stuff. I especially enjoyed the one program they had about Celtic influences on Baroque and folk music from various parts of Europe. One of my favorite pieces they played was an example of bagpipe music from Bohemia.

Then every hour or so I can get in-depth coverage of events happening around the news, far more than anything on most American stations.

So yes a very fine quality and cultured radio station.

Yet from the same country comes perverted BS like this, not to mention incredibly asinine hate-speech laws.

Sorry, but Im having trouble understanding the correlation here. :confused:

[Berianidze]

Read this on yahoo. Canada is a disgrace of a nation. If you need "sex education" chances are you shouldn't be having sex. This also shows the state of colleges. You can get a degree in anything, what a joke. That filthy "Sex ed professor" is making money by teaching people to be trash.
The elite bourgeoisie benefits on the moral depravity of workers; throw out morality you can kiss goodbye honour, loyalty, solidarity, unity...

what better way to emasculate the movement than to render your masses degenerate, selfish, individualistic hedonists?

[Pearsonite]

Well. I wouldn't count on Muslims to get rid of the whips and chains...

[raven]

Delueze addressed this in Anti-Oedipus noting that many of his fellow leftists suffered from a kind of inner fascist.
That theory actually makes a lot of sense. Most liberals tend to be quite self-righteous and have this "inner fascist" in them.

Btw for those mentioning the muslims, I wouldn't count on Muslims to change anything for the better. All they really care about is continuing to spread their hate to the west. Personally I wouldn't want this degeneracy to be shoved in their face because well hell, I don't want it shoved in my face either. So I can emphasize with them on that point. But the problem is, above all, even if we agree with muslims that there are some problems with our society, they still want to kill us and rape our women. They lump us into the same category as the liberals. Just look at France. The muslims hate Le Pen, eventhough Front Nation is vehemontly anti-liberal. The muslims know deep down that even if the liberals whore out their women (I've seen repressed muslim girls go wild at University throughout the years.) , they would not even be in the west and would still be living in the shithole they came from (Pakistan, Algeria, whatever) if it wasn't for the liberals because conservatives like us don't even want them here. Ultimately I think many of these muslims are hypocrites.

[Heavens to Betsy]

I wonder if those denouncing the study of whips and chains and s&m and the like as sick and twisted have ever read any academic work on the same? I ask, because it is in fact as dry and unsexy as most academic work. (Before anyone asks, I have a habit of getting lost in the sociology section of the university library and picking up interesting books when I'm supposed to be studying something else).

Though I agree with Geist's general sentiment, that it's not really a legitimate area of study, certainly not at undergraduate level, but it's in keeping with the general trend in university curriculum, which seem to strive to avoid education students at all costs.

[Pearsonite]

I wonder if those denouncing the study of whips and chains and s&m and the like as sick and twisted have ever read any academic work on the same? I ask, because it is in fact as dry and unsexy as most academic work.Yes, and I find much of it interesting. Then again I find much academic work to be interesting. When I don't it is most often due to boring style and presentation; the subjects themselves are often intriguing. Though I agree with Geist's general sentiment, that it's not really a legitimate area of study, certainly not at undergraduate level, but it's in keeping with the general trend in university curriculum, which seem to strive to avoid education students at all costs.Sadomasochism is an important human phenomenon and ignoring it would be illegitimate. However, I'm not clear whether the particular courses in question are worth it as I haven't personally checked them out.

[raven]

These topics do have merit. Don't get me wrong. What bothers me is *how* they go about teaching in UFT (which is of absolutely no class). If you can gain insight on the psychology behind sadism and masochism, fine, but it doesn't look like that this course, which probably will cost around $450+ or so a semester (how much a course costs here), would be worth the price tag. That along with all the "we're here and we're queer" shit smeared all over the article made me want to vomit. That article in the way the words presented this study, gave off a very repulsing vibe. I would find it interesting if there was a study done on what motivates certain people to behave sadisticly or as a masochistic during the act. However I think that a serious study on this belongs moreso in the curriculum in a Psychology course (there are psych-stream courses in psychology that deal exclusively with sexuality).

[Hrolf Kraki]

Canada sure is working hard to eclipse the US in degeneracy.