Hitler's Bitch

[ogenoct]

HITLER'S BITCH

by Constantin von Hoffmeister


Savitri Devi: 100 years
(born September 30, 1905)

she liked to admire
to worship
to pray
to perform silly rituals
with no shame
and no blushed face
her saree flowing in places
where it did not belong
degrading slavs
but faulting hitler for not siding with them
second class aryans to be exterminated
my fuehrer, right or wrong!
aryans: she claimed she was one
she loved them
more than her dark-skinned indian servant
and all the other "bronze bodies"
she liked it pure
and orderly
was against the caste system
but imagined that hitler would reinstate it globally
but hitler said it would be a greater honor to be a street cleaner in the reich
than be a king in a foreign country
hitler the pan-germanic egalitarian!
savitri devi the hierarchical thinker
she was sad when germany lost the war
that it had started
she wanted the british out of india
but she loved the fuehrer
who wanted to help the british subjugate the indians
she admired the ridiculous hindu customs
"aryan paganism" she termed hinduism
all the colors and the motions
all the complexities
for her it was cosmic
transcendental terror is what it really is!
hinduism is man-made nonsense
acting out its concepts
is like speculatively stroking one's manifested fear of isolation
but one is one always till death and beyond
savitri devi liked to rub lotus flowers on her tits
it made them imaginarily glow
like in her mind the halo above hitler's head
savitri devi's husband was a member of subhas chandra bose's party
unlike savitri devi, subhas chandra bose
was a folk hero
he did not only count hindus as true indians
but also muslims, christians, buddhists, etc.
in his indian national army, all faiths were equal
for bose, the nation was above any religion
for devi, hinduism was above the nation or the indian people
while devi worshipped nazi germany,
bose was a soviet agent
while devi was an imperialist,
bose was an anti-imperialist
while devi wanted the evil aryans to colonize,
bose wanted the evil aryans out of his home
savitri devi was a hitler groupie
who never made it into hitler's bed
after the war, she told germans to believe
and be strong
holding onto a belief that had killed them all


http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l130/fritzmaster18/SavitriDevi.jpg

[Petr]

The eternal return of Nazi nonsense:
Savitri Devi's last writings


"To me, it seems likely that in 1937, Savitri Devi was not yet fully aware of this inter-Hindu antagonism. She enthusiastically accepted the role of anti-Christian preacher which the Hindu Mission offered her without fully realizing the contrast between this work and the pro-caste traditionalism to which she may already have been paying some lip-service. Her own explanation in her autobiography, however, is that she had simply been fooling both her tribal audience and her Hindu-reformist employers: she had merely wanted to "give the most backward and degenerate aboriginals a (false) Hindu consciousness" (Souvenirs et Réflexions, p.37) and "give them the impression" of being welcome in Hinduism on the basis of equality, purely for the sake of increasing the Hindus' numerical power, "not for the benefit of their own souls, which nobody cared about (and myself less than anyone)" (op. cit., p.39). She also claims that the Hindu Mission's leader Swami Satyananda had seen through her insincerity and told her to preach from the Hindu viewpoint and keep her private opinions to herself (op. cit., p.39)."

http://koenraadelst.voiceofdharma.com/articles/fascism/SavitriDevi.html


Petr

[Boleslaw]

Im pretty sure decent Christians like Charles Freer Andrews and/or Thomas Merton(among many others) would easily kick her ass in any honest discussion concerning Hinduism and how it compares to the Christian worldview.

At the very least, Devi's commentaries on Christianity are more than worthless. She clearly never tried to make an honest understanding of the faith. Her essay on St. Paul of Tarsus is almost comical.

[Vindex]

When did Imperium become the gutter.:rofl:

[Ahknaton]

Savitri Devi was a great woman.

[Björn]

This thread doesn't seem to be in the spirit of true discussion and is just simply a rant. She was an odd one but it is worth looking into some of the research she did on Ahknaton. She even corrected herself in times where she was proven wrong like on vegitarianism.

[Tchort]

ogenoct is allowed to post his writings here.

I personally enjoy Devi's books. She writes from immediate post-war Germany, a setting rarely touched by anyone, non-fiction or fiction. Can someone post the link to the Savitri Devi archive?

[ogenoct]

Can someone post the link to the Savitri Devi archive?

http://savitridevi.org/

C.

[Boleslaw]

Can somebody please explain to me the attraction of this lady's writings?

[harjit]

She was a twisted ugly sick Jew-obsessed individual, oozing with hate. She would have fit right in at VNN.

Then again maybe not. VNNers at least tend to be funny.

She has nothing to her credit whatsoever. Her spirituality is also just worthless mumbo-jumbo.

[Vindex]

It's a Aryan Thing. Non-Aryans don't understand.

Can somebody please explain to me the attraction of this lady's writings?

[Petr]

Can somebody please explain to me the attraction of this lady's writings?
Faux mysticism sells well among spiritually empty post-Christian Europeans.


Petr

[Boleslaw]

It's a Aryan Thing.

I see..............


Non-Aryans don't understand.
Indeed, hence why most Europeans dont understand her really.

[Boleslaw]

Faux mysticism sells well among spiritually empty post-Christian Europeans.


Petr

No doubt. The writings of Christian mystics are vastly superior to anything by Devi. I'll take Thomas Merton over her any day of the week, especially when it comes to treatises dealing with Hindu spirituality.

However, I wanted to give her admirers a fair chance to explain themselves.

[Vindex]

Yes the majority of the current White race is anything but Aryan.

Indeed, hence why most Europeans dont understand her really.

[Boleslaw]

Yes the majority of the current White race is anything but Aryan.
I dont consider that a bad thing really, since Aryan really is a meaningless identity outside of India at best.

[ogenoct]

I dont consider that a bad thing really, since Aryan really is a meaningless identity outside of India at best.

The Aryans did not originate in India, though.

Constantin

[Boleslaw]

Yes but the only real context the term is still used is when explaining about the Aryan invasions of India, and their influence on the development of Indian culture and religion.

Perhaps this is an indirect result of the manner many people like Blavatsky, Devi, and others glorified Hinduism as the most pure "Aryan faith". I dont know, but it's still an interesting coincidence.

[Vindex]

Yes I expected your perception would see it that way. As you are not Aryan and Aryan means nothing to those who are not Aryans. Just as the pope means nothing to those who are catholic/christian. And is a meaningless identity outside of the catholic church.

I dont consider that a bad thing really, since Aryan really is a meaningless identity outside of India at best.

[Tchort]

Yes I expected your perception would see it that way. As you are not Aryan and Aryan means nothing to those who are not Aryans. Just as the pope means nothing to those who are catholic/christian. And is a meaningless identity outside of the catholic church.

Aryan is a meaningless term. If you mean Indo-European, say it; if you mean 'White Race'- say so. If you mean 'Person with enough 'White' blood to pass the neo-Nazi double-take who hates those Jews'- guess what to do. European does not equal Aryan white does not equal Aryan noble is what Aryan means not the other way around.

I agree with Petr concerning non-Christian mystics. New age, neo-paganism, etc It is acceptable to a spiritually deprived demographic of the Euro-descended population who shun Christianity because of their overbearing parents :p

[Björn]

First off I'm all for the respiritualization of Europe and a move away from Christianity (i.e mad cow disease) and it's economic and political offshoots. With that said, I don't believe borrowing from other cultures like India and Egypt to be a sound choice. It's ironic how people obsessed with anti-semetism will embrace an even more alien substitute to Christianity in search of "true European heritage". Hence we end up with Muslim and Hindu WN's who in the end may come to the same conclusions of any other multiculturalists which is that westerners are an inferior bunch. If you really want a pre-Christian religious experience I personally believe that the old gods can not be found in a book but found in everything from the soil beneath our feet to the clouds above us. But the poetic edda does help!:viking:

[Boleslaw]

First off I'm all for the respiritualization of Europe and a move away from Christianity (i.e mad cow disease) and it's economic and political offshoots.
Good luck in that endeavor. Oh and Christianity is nowhere near "mad cow disease" as far as religions go.

[Vindex]

No I mean Aryan, it seems my terming is not inline with what you feel it should be. But I don't care.:deadhorse:

Aryan is a meaningless term. If you mean Indo-European, say it; if you mean 'White Race'- say so. If you mean 'Person with enough 'White' blood to pass the neo-Nazi double-take who hates those Jews'- guess what to do. European does not equal Aryan white does not equal Aryan noble is what Aryan means not the other way around.

I agree with Petr concerning non-Christian mystics. New age, neo-paganism, etc It is acceptable to a spiritually deprived demographic of the Euro-descended population who shun Christianity because of their overbearing parents :p

[Boleslaw]

No I mean Aryan, it seems my terming is not inline with what you feel it should be. But I don't care.:deadhorse:
I agree with Tchort. You can ramble on and on about "Aryans. My concern is for Europeans and Euro-descended peoples. And the faith of these peoples is Christianity.

[Vindex]

Ok then....

I agree with Tchort. You can ramble on and on about "Aryans. My concern is for Europeans and Euro-descended peoples. And the faith of these peoples is Christianity.

[Björn]

I agree with Tchort. You can ramble on and on about "Aryans. My concern is for Europeans and Euro-descended peoples. And the faith of these peoples is Christianity.

For a good 1000 years and kicking and screaming the whole way through with not one but two reformations and now the next religious fad kicking it's ass. I actually don't have a problem with Christianity as much as other heathens or non-Christians for that matter but although a millenium is somewhat impressive it's more or less a short live experiment considering the longstanding time before it and how poorly it has been recieved by today's people (not that today's people are something to brag about).

[Ahknaton]

Ok then....
Come on man, the Church has done some good things:

1) The Crusades
2) Burning gays at the stake
3) Persecuting Jews in the Middle Ages

etc...

:D

[ogenoct]

I agree with Tchort. You can ramble on and on about "Aryans. My concern is for Europeans and Euro-descended peoples. And the faith of these peoples is Christianity.

Not all Europeans are Christian nor should they be. The glory of days of European Christendom (Faustian cathedrals and just wars like the Crusades) are over. The Aryans were Asian tribes. We should concentrate on our proto-European roots instead of on the bogus "nobility" of some anti-European nomadic invaders of the past. What was so "noble" about the Aryans anyway? Was it their stupid religion or was it their ridiculous system of hierarchy? It is because of the caste system that India is so backwards and under threat of becoming submerged by its Muslim minority. Even Savitri Devi realized that the caste system was the major obstacle in battling Islamic expansionism.

Constantin

[Boleslaw]

Not all Europeans are Christian nor should they be.
No, but the vast majority of Europeans still identify themselves as Christian.


The glory of days of European Christendom (Faustian cathedrals and just wars like the Crusades) are over.

What you really mean is that the Middle Ages are over. Yes, but the glories of European Christendom are not restricted exclusively to that era. It has taken on different forms throughout the generations, and will continue to evolve as society evolves as well. A new sense of Christendom will emerge to guide Europe out of its secularist darkness. Jacques Maritain went to great lengths explaining about this:

http://www2.nd.edu/Departments//Maritain/etext/range14.htm#p192

"In the eyes of the observer of historical evolution, a new Christian civilization is going to be quite different from medieval civilization, though in both cases Christianity is at the root...A new age of Christendom, if it is to come, will be an age of reconciliation of that which was disjoined, the age of a "secular" Christian civilization, in which temporal things, philosophical and scientific reason, and civil society, will enjoy their autonomy and at the same time recognize the quickening and inspiring role that spiritual things, religious faith, and the Church play from their higher plane. Then a Christian philosophy of life would guide a community vitally, not decoratively Christian, a community of human rights and of the dignity of the human person, in which men belonging to diverse racial stocks and to diverse spiritual lineages would work at a temporal common task which was truly human and progressive."

[Arminius]

No, but the vast majority of Europeans still identify themselves as Christian.

It's hard not to, the culture is uniquely part of Christendom. It's not likely to be any different for a long time. The most of the values and traditions of Europeans have become so rooted into the Christian life that it will be impossible to separate them entirely, nor should that be the goal.

What you really mean is that the Middle Ages are over. Yes, but the glories of European Christendom are not restricted exclusively to that era.

Those periods saw Europe through the dark and into the light. Without the unity that Christianity brought to many people back then, I doubt society would've had the opportunity to reach it's potential. It was through works of many clerics and devout Christians that Europe actually went out of the dark ages, and experienced a rebirth of knowledge. In part, Christianity is responsible for the scientific revolution, and our current place in the world.

That's my take anyway.