The ultimate question:

[Thomas777]

What is the verdict? Will the peoples of the West roll back the globalist/Marxist agenda and force immigration reform? Will White populations reach replacement levels again and will our nations thrive? Is the White world doomed to a slow extinction as Jean Raspail predicted?

[OVERWATCH]

Impossible to tell, there are far too many possibilities that the future holds; one single, unforseen event might have profound importance for our future.



In order of likelihood:

We might undergo permenent balkanisation

There might be widespread collapse and race-war.

We might slowly absorb our minority populations over centuries.

We may, in turn, become absorbed by others.

[Excorcism]

Impossible to tell, there are far too many possibilities that the future holds; one single, unforseen event might have profound importance for our future.



In order of likelihood:

We might undergo permenent balkanisation

There might be widespread collapse and race-war.

We might slowly absorb our minority populations over centuries.

We may, in turn, become absorbed by others.


I'm almost willing to bet all of these may happen, but in different parts in the Western World.

[Jonathan]

I'd say it's too late for some, but not for all.

[Jimbo Gomez]

Balkanization. The most important question ever is being treated in my Star Trek captain thread by the way. ;)

[Atlas]

Quite complicated. It all depends on wether you have faith on an international, unstopable, violent and most of all almost casual revolution, or you have trully massive persuasive powers and admirable brainwashing skills...in my own personal opinion there is a third option which combines the most realistic features of both. To take the enemy down, either in the present as an obvious minority or in the future possibly as a majority (a future I see still rather distant to be honest)
us National Socialists are to make full use of our white genious to create, in simple terms, a masterpiece conspiracy. We are capable of thoroughly planning a revolution, and also of making this revolution a silent one- as absurd as it may sound, why not create ZOG's counterpart? It is a filthy war the one we deal with at the present time and (I am guessing) probably since 1945. I have spoken of this kind of dirty feed-backs previously in my post on modern communications, so you know I think we could begin to get a bit muddy too (please do not misunderstand that...). Let us remeber our beloved Führer's tactics: does not look to me like he was trying to change history books by playing nice with the crown.

[Anarch]

Balkanisation, third generation warfare, and race wars/battles on local and state levels, perhaps. I do not envision massive armies fighting it out on battlefields and in cities a la the Russian front in WWII.

[Barbarossa]

I believe most whites will wake up when the problem starts to get seriously out of hand and running away is no longer an option. The sooner white people see first hand the results of mass immigration from the third world, the sooner change will occur.

[Uberberserker]

The future will unfold much as Thomas Chittum predicted in his book "Civil War 2: the coming break up of America" (Edgar Steele has his own version of these events available here: The Coming Balkanization of America (http://www.conspiracypenpal.com/columns/balkan.htm) )

There will be a series of violent race wars in the future and the Whites will experience an Aryan Awakening to save themselves and fend off the blacks and browns. The most interesting battles will occur when White air force pilots bombard black/ brown areas and leave smoldering ruins that will make Dresden have looked like a camp-fire.

The time when this will begin to occur in earnst is around 2011 when the Current State collapses because it will not be able to pay for the retiring White baby boomers who retire around this time. Most likely blacks and browns will riot when they learn welfare money has been diverted to White retirees. The lasted possible date for these events to occur is 2020-25 according to Mr. Chittum.

Unrest will also occur in Europe, but contrary to many peoples opinions they are actually far more on the ball since many more of them have rejected judeo-christianity and ignore what jews have said about 'brotherhood' and what-not.

The only real wild-card is China as they desperately want to take over the US West Coast to control the fertile Sacremento Valley which contains the best land in World which they want to utilize to feed their massive yellow population.

[OVERWATCH]

The future will unfold much as Thomas Chittum predicted in his book "Civil War 2: the coming break up of America" (Edgar Steele has his own version of these events available here: The Coming Balkanization of America (http://www.conspiracypenpal.com/columns/balkan.htm) )

There will be a series of violent race wars in the future and the Whites will experience an Aryan Awakening to save themselves and fend off the blacks and browns. The most interesting battles will occur when White air force pilots bombard black/ brown areas and leave smoldering ruins that will make Dresden have looked like a camp-fire.

The time when this will begin to occur in earnst is around 2011 when the Current State collapses because it will not be able to pay for the retiring White baby boomers who retire around this time. Most likely blacks and browns will riot when they learn welfare money has been diverted to White retirees. The lasted possible date for these events to occur is 2020-25 according to Mr. Chittum.

Unrest will also occur in Europe, but contrary to many peoples opinions they are actually far more on the ball since many more of them have rejected judeo-christianity and ignore what jews have said about 'brotherhood' and what-not.

The only real wild-card is China as they desperately want to take over the US West Coast to control the fertile Sacremento Valley which contains the best land in World which they want to utilize to feed their massive yellow population.

Not very likely, for one thing the social security crisis is well-known to all, if lots of people have to lose social security that's what will happen, the establishment isn't bereft enough to allow something like that to lead to a collapse. That's one major reason they want more immigrants to fill the 'worker gap'.

The US air force, although it is mostly white, has sworn allegiance to the government and will not betray them. Nor is it likely that any other branch will either.

Eastern Orthodox countries like Russia are more religious than western Europe, and that branch doesn't seem to be as globalist and pan-humanist as Catholicism and Protestantism. However, when it comes to Europe, I feel you are correct that they are more likely to throw out the parasitic, alien dregs; but not because of their religion, or lack thereof; rather, because they have a much stronger culture, and their non-european minorities are far less assimilable than those in the USA partly because of cultural strength.

If anything is going to bring about total systemic collapse, which is necessary for the race-war you describe, it will be something unforseen and/or completely devastating like multiple nuclear strikes or some massive natural disaster. The captains at the helm are fully aware of things like peak oil, soc-sec crisis, etc., and as long as they can see them coming, you can bet there are at least a couple of effective plans of dealing with it.

Regarding China, they already have vast stretches of fertile land, a stable population, and as the standard of living rises in China, their population will start to decline. Chinese expansionism will take an economic form, rather than a military form, imo.

[Uberberserker]

Well one thing that Chittum mentions in his book is that once the dominant 'group' (Race/ Ethnicity) in a State falls below 70% that is when widespread systemic instability occurs (some other Thinkers have pegged this figure at 80% though.) We are rapidly approaching a point where only a Police State akin to how Yugoslavia was will be able to maintain something like order... however one needs only look and see what happened in the Balkans after Yugoslavia collapsed to see the future that is rapidly approaching (and remember the "The captains at the helm" of Yugoslavia didn't see it coming so I would not be so sure that The Elites here will see it coming either...)

[The Retard]

I hate to be the harbinger of bad news, but it's all over!

[Sinclair]

Impossible to say. The coming breakdown of the world economy (Due to "Peak Oil") will change a lot.

[OVERWATCH]

Well one thing that Chittum mentions in his book is that once the dominant 'group' (Race/ Ethnicity) in a State falls below 70% that is when widespread systemic instability occurs (some other Thinkers have pegged this figure at 80% though.) We are rapidly approaching a point where only a Police State akin to how Yugoslavia was will be able to maintain something like order... however one needs only look and see what happened in the Balkans after Yugoslavia collapsed to see the future that is rapidly approaching (and remember the "The captains at the helm" of Yugoslavia didn't see it coming so I would not be so sure that The Elites here will see it coming either...)

There are some important differences between Yugoslavia and the USA, however.

For instance, Yugoslavia was far less established as a 'nation'.Also, the different ethnic groups of Yugoslavia could be imprecisely divided into regions; whereas in the USA the opposing racial groups are moreso spread out through the whole country, but with the blacks tending towards the cities.

Although, it is likely that the left coast, the Southwest, and Texas will become very heavily hispanic, which might cause a secession at some time there.

The idea that parts of Yugoslavia might secede was a well known possibility, and indeed a probability- what came completely unexpected was the fierce resistance by the lightly armed, outnumbered Croats against the heavily armed JNA at Vukovar, which denied the JNA the goal of overrunning Croatia and Slovenia.

As it is right now, secessionist thinking in the US is only harboured by a fraction of a percentage of the population, and even less politicians, unlike Yugoslavia c.1990.

[Banat]

I too see no similarities between the West and former SFRJ. "Balkanization", if it's clear at all what this term should mean, is something that can't and won't happen to the West. What happened here was just an episode of a war that started way back in the past, and isn't finished yet, and that what is happening or is going to happen in the West is really not much similar to it.

To go back to the topic, it is important to point out a few things. The situation in Western Europe is different from the one in America. Europe is in much greater trouble, and its trouble are the Moslems.

The Moslems are a progressive force that is constantly growing and gaining more power, and once they reach certain level, things will inevitably have to change. Unless it's prevented while there's still time, one day Western Europe will have to choose between two fundamentalisms: the Islamic one and whichever the other anti-Islamic one might be, whereas the latter doesn't even exist yet. Western system is not the place for aware Moslems to live in great numbers. They see its values as its weakness (for which they might even be right), and, what's more dangerous, they view it as a mockery of the things most sacred to them, and grow the idea that their system should replace it.

Considering America, the only thing they might fear is great natural disasters, or disasters similar to them, for only in that case the negroes and hispanic gangs can crawl out and start eating people or killing them. Unlike 'European' Moslems, they have no ideals and no 'sacred mission' to maintain, and therefore they don't represent much of a problem. To make a comparison, they are more like a virus, while Moslems of Europe are a malignant tumor, threatening to metastasize.

The "awakening" of the West should mean returning to its real values - I'd say: traditional Christian values - and whether is it going to happen or not, I'd say it's impossible to say in this time.

[Felix the Cat]

National Geographic ran a feature on Yugoslavia in August 1990, a few months before the place blew up.

It's online here (http://www.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/kosovo/9008.html)

[Fade the Butcher]

I'm very optimistic.

[Fade the Butcher]

Europe is in much greater trouble, and its trouble are the Moslems.I agree.

1.) Moslems are the worst immigrants.
2.) Europeans are aging a lot faster than Americans.
3.) America is a much larger country.

[Atlas]

3.) America is a much larger country.

Not if you include all Russia in Europe.

[Banat]

Not if you include all Russia in Europe.

The word was about Western Europe.

[Atlas]

The word was about Western Europe.

West Europe will fall like America within the next 50 years.

[Excorcism]

West Europe will fall like America within the next 50 years.

Racially speaking perhaps

[The Retard]

Not if you include all Russia in Europe.

Russia is aging fast too. :(