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OVERWATCH
11-09-2006, 12:56 AM
Who Stole the Indian Me-109? (http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htmurph/articles/20061106.aspx)

November 6, 2006: Five years ago, a German Me-109 fighter was discovered, in the storage yard of an Indian college, by an Indian amateur aviation historian. A year later, the Me-109 disappeared, but now it has been found, flying around Europe. No one will admit to owning it, or say anything about how the valuable (worth over a million dollars) aircraft got from India to Europe.



Until 1961, the vintage (it was brought down during the Battle of Britain in 1940, without major damage) aircraft had been given to an Indian prince, in 1941, for raising enough money to equip two fighter squadrons for the Royal Air Force. The Me-109 was displayed at a south Indian college until 1961, when it was moved to another college, and left in a storage yard. There is was discovered in 2001. Word got around. The Indian Air Force found out about it. This was the only Me-109 in India, and considered a national treasure. By law, the Antiquities Act, it is illegal to take vehicles, more than fifty years old, out of the country. The Indian Air Force asked the local government, which, technically, controlled the college storage yard containing the Me-109, and thus "owned" the aircraft, if a trade (for another, but more presentable, antique item) could be arranged. Then, the Indian Air Force would undertake restoration of the aircraft, and display it in a national museum. This would, among other things, honor the Indian pilots who participated in the Battle of Britain.

But before those negotiations were complete, the Me-109 disappeared. Well not exactly disappeared, the college trustees said they had accepted another trade offer from an Indian gentleman (Girish Naidu, a scrap dealer from Bangalore). The air force generals were furious, but the college trustees said the aircraft would be restored and displayed in India. That quieted things down for a few years, until some Indian aviation enthusiasts began to wonder where the Me-109 was. Turns out the aircraft was nowhere to be found. No one knew anything. The college trustees were rather mortified to discover that their trade items (an antique car, bicycle and an antique aircraft that wasn't) were worth about $2,000.



Another investigation commenced, but neither the aircraft, nor Girish Naidu, who had arranged the trade, could be found. Bribery, or simply fast talking and some deception, were suspected. The aircraft had been shipped out of the country in 2002, about the same time the deal was made. Apparently, there was never any intention of keeping the aircraft in India. It also turned out that the trustees of the college that traded away the Me-109 didn't legally own it. The college where the Me-109 had been until 1961 was still the owner of record.



The missing Me-109 was found in Europe, in flying condition, because the Indian aviation buffs, who originally discovered the Me-109, had taken many pictures, including shots of serial numbers on several aircraft components. These serial numbers were not changed during the restoration. European aviation magazines mentioned these serial numbers in stories about eh newly restored Me-109. The European owner of the Me-109 was a shady corporation. No one could find who owned the corporation (which was registered in the Channel Islands, where shady corporations are legal, and a major part of the local economy).



The Indian government has not yet decided what should be done. There w as apparently some bribery and corruption involved, and officials are apparently checking to see who might get hurt if the investigation goes too far. Meanwhile the local police of Gulbarga, are investigating the HKE Society, which controls the college that didn't own, but "sold", the Me-109. There may yet be justice, or maybe not.

Felix the Cat
11-09-2006, 07:59 AM
Some clever Indian has made himself a private fortune out of a pile of old scrap. Good for him.

cerberus
11-09-2006, 09:43 AM
CowcubeSome clever Indian has made himself a private fortune out of a pile of old scrap. Good for him.
And you can be sure CC that some guy nearer home gota BoB 109 for a knock down price !

Wonder if he might have to give it back ?:bbbat:

Felix the Cat
11-09-2006, 09:49 AM
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/7199/messerschmitt000hl7.jpg

http://109lair.hobbyvista.com/walkaround/4034/4034.htm

Every once in a while, something truly extraordinary pops up out of nowhere... or in the most unlikely of places. For instance, who would have thought to look in India for a Messerschmitt? What you see before you is that rarest of treasures... an almost intact Bf109E-1 still carrying remnants of its original markings from 1./JG77 based at Breslau-Schöngarten, as well as its later schemes of "black 5" and "black 6". While the original service unit of the aircraft has been established, the later history of the aircraft is still somewhat murky, and in fact a definitive W.Nr. has yet to be established for this... naturally, the data plate on the port forward fuselage has vanished, and it will take some dedicated hands-on research of the airframe to find other indications which give a clear answer as to the actual identity of the airframe.

That said, however, there's been much speculation that this may in fact be the machine of Fw. Xavier Ray of 8./JG53, Bf109E-1/b W.Nr. 4034. There are several items which seem to point to this, and we'll begin by quoting directly from the Crashed Enemy Aircraft Report (CEAR) kindly transcribed by Dave Wadman:

Report No.3/139 Me 109 crashed on 2/11/40 at 0905hrs near Lower Hardres. Map reference R.5601. Markings 6+I. All in black outlined white. Camouflage yellow dappled green grey all over. Vertical red band 10" wide round centre of engine cowling. Spinner red without usual hole at the tip. Airframe made by Focke-Wulf, Bremen in 1939. Works number 4034. Engine D.B.601 Work number 10256. Made by D.B. Genshagen. Cause of crash of this aircraft is not known but pilot made very good belly landing and aircraft is practically intact. No trace of bullet strikes or engine overheating but cause of landing may have been engine failure. Armament, 4 M.G. 17s; no ammunition used. Armour: fuselage cross bulkhead fitted and head protection with curved head shield. Pilot prisoner.

In addition to the above, kindly transcribed by Dave Wadman, we also have the pilot's interrogation report, with some interesting observations:

2/11/40 Street End, Canterbury. Fw. Xavier Ray, Me 109E, ‘Black 6’, red spinner, yellow cowling and rudder, 8./JG 53. The mission was a free-lance patrol to the outskirts of London and the identity of the unit was obtained by interrogation but this pilot was already known to this section from a combat report dated 27/9/40 in which it was claimed he shot down two British aircraft, the witness to this was Oblt. Fiel who himself was shot down on 2/10/40. AIK report 680/1940. The pilot made a forced landing in a ploughed field owing to engine trouble on the inward flight to London. He stated that his aircraft, Works number 4034 had given trouble yesterday, and although repairs had been carried out, it was not running well when he started off today. He said that although his aircraft was fitted for bombing he did not carry bombs and that the racks were going to be removed because they slowed the aircraft down. His morale was high and he would say very little but is probably reliable. He was extremely annoyed that his aircraft had let him down.

Fw. Ray did in fact survive the war, and it's mildly amusing to consider whether he ever purchased a Mercedes-Benz after the war, given his negative experience with the last Daimler-Benz product he "drove"...

cerberus
11-09-2006, 03:24 PM
It does seem beyond belief that no one at least at school level happned to think , "Do you think this aircraft is worth anything ?"

Over the past years lost of aircraft have turned up in nelglected states - a spitfire in Israel , some rare Italian aircraft in Afghanstan , recently brought home - probably a no money export as well !

Ambrosio Spinola
11-09-2006, 07:22 PM
One the nearby semi abandoned army barracs on Ibiza they have two PaK40 and two FlaK36 guns placed as camp decoration and they do not even realitze what pieces of valuable history they have there rusting under the sun. I thought about approaching the camp and ask if they might be on sale. That would be quite a good cash deal.