Slovenia chided over evicted Roma

[Ace Rimmer]

Slovenia chided over evicted Roma (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6155642.stm)

BBC

November 16, 2006
A leading European human rights expert has criticised Slovenia over what he called the "unacceptable" forced relocation of a Roma (Gypsy) family.

The Council of Europe's Human Rights Commissioner Thomas Hammarberg was commenting on the 30-strong Strojan family, threatened by a local mob.

He said it was "unacceptable" that they had had to leave "because the majority population in the area so required".

Roma form less than 1% of Slovenia's population of two million.

Last month, the Strojans were escorted by police out of their village, Ambrus, just outside the capital, Ljubljana, after residents threatened to expel them.

Later, the villagers, who accused the Strojans of stealing, organised protests against any move to let the family return home.

The Strojans are staying at a disused army barracks in Postojna, south of Ljubljana, awaiting relocation with government assistance.

Education Minister Milan Zver said the authorities had no option but to move them, Slovenia's STA news agency reported.

Protecting rights

Speaking at a news conference in Ljubljana on Thursday, Mr Hammarberg urged Slovenia's political and church leaders to spell out their opposition to racists and xenophobic behaviour.

"They have a particular obligation to stand up for human rights and tell people that minorities also have rights and that mob activities against minorities cannot be tolerated," he said.

Separately, a report from Amnesty International criticised shortcomings in primary education in Slovenia, Bosnia-Hercegovina and Croatia which it said "deprive Romani children of the chance of fulfilling their true potential".

It called for "immediate action to confront discrimination against Roma in schools by ensuring that no Romani children are placed in special classes or groups simply because they are Roma, by monitoring the composition of classes and, where needed, the activities of teachers working with Roma".

Many Roma children had little or no command of the language spoken by the majority population, the report said, adding that the teaching of Roma culture and history was neglected.

[SlovenianNationalist]

It all started when a gypsy attacked a Slovenian in village Ambrus, an old guy who was attacked had to go to hospital. People got angry and about 500 Slovenians attacked gypsy in their community, and drove them away in to the woods where the Gypsies camped for a week or so. Remember, gypsies were staying there illegal on a Slovenian property. There are about 100 gypsies communities here and only 30 of them are legal.

Then the gypsies were moved to Postojna in some kind of home for illegal immigrants, they said that they will be returned this week, but Slovenians in Ambrus don't want them back. They made baricades and villagers guard their village 24 hours a day.

Here you have some pics,

http://img.rtvslo.si/upload/Slovenija/ambrus_traktor_show.jpg

http://img.rtvslo.si/upload/Slovenija/ambrus_vascani_show.jpg

http://24ur.com/media/images//extra/Nov2006//16147392.jpg

http://24ur.com/media/images//extra/Nov2006//16147391.jpg

Gypsies "untermensch"

http://24ur.com/media/images//extra/Nov2006//16147139.jpg

http://24ur.com/media/images//extra/Nov2006//16144502.jpg

http://24ur.com/media/images//extra/Oct2006//16142621.jpg

It's basically one family with about 50 children. :rofl:

The "leader" of family said that he will burn the whole village and that he expects help from all Slovenia and also Croatia.

Another option is that gypsies would be moved somewhere near Ivančna Gorica, but the locals don't want them. People of Postojna, where gypsies are staying now don't want them either and they said that if gypsies don't move this weekend, they'll kick them out.

So, it will be interesting this weekend, I hope I'll have time to help the villagers of Ambrus defend their Slovenian homes.

Regards

Cigani ven!

[Watzy]

"...the teaching of Roma culture and history was neglected..."

What culture and history? :confused:

[SlovenianNationalist]

What culture?

Probably stealing or camping illegaly on Slovenian property and try to get away with it.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/13/world/europe/13slovenia.html?hp&ex=1163480400&en=ec373a0f3067ef99&ei=5094&partner=homepage

The article on one American site

According to Slovenia’s ombudsman for human rights, Matjaz Hanzek, the government and public reaction illustrate a deep-rooted prejudice that permeates Slovenian society. “They really don’t understand they are using discriminatory speech,” he said in an interview. “Our neighbors are watching this very closely. If this can happen here in the European Union, then nationalist groups in countries like Serbia and Croatia will know they can get away with the same.”

:rofl:

[Petr]

Gypsies "untermensch"

http://24ur.com/media/images//extra/Nov2006//16147139.jpg

http://24ur.com/media/images//extra/Nov2006//16144502.jpg

http://24ur.com/media/images//extra/Oct2006//16142621.jpg

It's basically one family with about 50 children. :rofl:
Surprisingly White-looking... with good washing they would look pretty ordinary Mediterraneans.


Petr

[Ace Rimmer]

It all started when a gypsy attacked a Slovenian in village Ambrus, an old guy who was attacked had to go to hospital.

Of course, you won't see that in the news.

Remember, gypsies were staying there illegal on a Slovenian property. There are about 100 gypsies communities here and only 30 of them are legal.

I bet if native Slovene had something illegal built they would have his house terminated and would end up fined.

[Arrow Cross]

Gypsies "untermensch"
They are.

It is the same story as over here in Hungary, they murder more and more and also anger the folks more and more. Such is the result of the rabid anti-racist hysteria, minorities, like the Gypsies will think of themselves as kings, allowed to do anything, but also forgeting their duties as "equal" citizens. Lazy bastards.
Good luck in dealing with them!

[SlovenianNationalist]

Surprisingly White-looking... with good washing they would look pretty ordinary Mediterraneans.

Yeah, I was little surprised when I saw they have blonde children.

Anyway, who cares how they look like, gypsy is a gypsy, it doesn't matter if he's white, black, green, blue...

[SlovenianNationalist]

I hope that people from the rest of Slovenia will do the same, we have a chance now.

There will probably be a lot of Slovenians from Slovenian nationalist/patriotic groups in Ambrus this week, it will be interesting, we must not give up now.

Maybe they'll even kick us out from EU because of that incident? :D

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I suggest Croats to do the same with their gypsies. How many gypsies do you have in your country btw?

[Arrow Cross]

Surprisingly White-looking... with good washing they would look pretty ordinary Mediterraneans.
Many of them dye their hair to look "whiter". :D
Also, they love bearing huge crosses to look huge Christians. :D

http://www.stifolder.hu/regiblog/juniuskep/cigany.jpg

Poor, oppressed Romas...

[Watzy]

Surprisingly White-looking... with good washing they would look pretty ordinary Mediterraneans.

Rubbish. What possible racial, cultural or historic connection Gypsies have with Mediterraneans (Hellens, Latins, Illyrians...).

Every tanned individual is a Mediterranean in the eyes of the barbarians. :rolleyes:

[Jebivjetar]

Slovenia and Croatia are lucky to have extremley small Gypsy minority, unlike neighbor Hungary or Serbia.

[Ace Rimmer]

Many of them dye their hair to look "whiter". :D
Also, they love bearing huge crosses to look huge Christians. :D

http://www.stifolder.hu/regiblog/juniuskep/cigany.jpg

Poor, oppressed Romas...

I think that guy is Greek or Serbian, I remember it from old discussion at Skadi.

Here is he again and few more of them

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v690/krilnik/tigani.jpg

freakin funny bunch :D

[Jimbo Gomez]

That scum stabs our teenagers to death here for their Ipods. A good gypsie is a dead and rotting gypsie if you ask me.

[SlovenianNationalist]

Slovenia and Croatia are lucky to have extremley small Gypsy minority

Not really, gypsies are about 1% of population in Slovenia officialy, in reality probably even more.

[VAMPIR]

What culture and history? :confused:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Zvaci is always in good shape...

[Ahknaton]

Surprisingly White-looking... with good washing they would look pretty ordinary Mediterraneans.
They are originally from India I believe. They scammed their way into Europe in the middle ages by claiming to be Egyptians (who knows why that would have worked).

[Jimbo Gomez]

Probably because the medieval Europeans had never seen an Egyptian before.

[VAMPIR]

Surprisingly White-looking... with good washing they would look pretty ordinary Mediterraneans.


Petr
Sorry, Petr, but this is bullshit.

Yeah, I was little surprised when I saw they have blonde children.
Don't be. Young 'gipsy ladies' do things for low price, you know....without protection.

[Jimbo Gomez]

There is no such thing as a gypsie lady.

[il ragno]

http://24ur.com/media/images//extra/Nov2006//16147139.jpg

I dunno...these guys look white to me. Granted, the guy choking down a Lucky is a bit on the Ratso Rizzo side, but there are plenty of haunted-looking white chainsmokers in this world....

http://www.stifolder.hu/regiblog/juniuskep/cigany.jpg

Again, clearly no poster boy for the President's Council on Physical Fitness, but nothing about this guy screams imitation white man! to me. He kinda looks like Robbie Coltrane during Gay Pride Week in Berlin.

[SlovenianNationalist]

http://24ur.com/media/images//extra/Nov2006//16147139.jpg

I dunno...these guys look white to me. Granted, the guy choking down a Lucky is a bit on the Ratso Rizzo side, but there are plenty of haunted-looking white chainsmokers in this world....

The guy on the right is Slovenian, I think.

The left-one is gypsy (cigan).

[VAMPIR]

There is no such thing as a gypsie lady.
Yeah... no gypsie lady, you're right, but 'gypsie lady' - yes. ;)

[VAMPIR]

The guy on the right is Slovenian, I think.

The left-one is gypsy (cigan).
Just CIGAN, it's enough. :whip:

[SlovenianNationalist]

Just CIGAN, it's enough. :whip:

Funny how gypsies here don't want to be called CIGANI. They want to be called "Romi".:rofl:

They say that the term "cigan" is simmilar insult for gypsy as "nigger" is for an Afro-American.

[VAMPIR]

Funny how gypsies here don't want to be called CIGANI. They want to be called "Romi".:rofl:

They say that the term "cigan" is simmilar insult for gypsy as "nigger" is for an Afro-American.
who cares what CIGANI want!!! :whip:

[Professor John Frink]

Funny how gypsies here don't want to be called CIGANI. They want to be called "Romi".:rofl:

They say that the term "cigan" is simmilar insult for gypsy as "nigger" is for an Afro-American.
Well, there are some groups/tribes who insist on being called "Cigani". These various tribes are also hate each other's guts.

[Professor John Frink]

The guy on the right is Slovenian, I think.

The left-one is gypsy (cigan).
They're both obviously mixed. Most of them have some Turkish blood as well.

[Isra'il Yahya]

They're both obviously mixed. Most of them have some Turkish blood as well.

Dinarics and Semitics. Ughhh.

[diabloblanco]

Probably stealing or camping illegaly on Slovenian property and try to get away with it.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/13/world/europe/13slovenia.html?hp&ex=1163480400&en=ec373a0f3067ef99&ei=5094&partner=homepage

The article on one American site



:rofl:

I want to offer my congratulations on a courageous action. Its good that you are nipping this in the bud. You dont want to find yourself in Slovakias situation, where they are facing the prospect of an eventual Gitano majority

[Watzy]

They're both obviously mixed. Most of them have some Turkish blood as well.
Dinarics and Semitics. Ughhh.

How did the 'mixed' Dinarics, Semitics and Turks got into this story about Gypsies?!http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/grinser/grinning-smiley-017.gif

[Professor John Frink]

How did the 'mixed' Dinarics, Semitics and Turks got into this story about Gypsies?!http://www.clicksmilies.com/s0105/grinser/grinning-smiley-017.gif
Someone else speculated about the "whiteness" of Gypsies and I merely pointed out that the Gypsies which came to northeastern Slovenia absorbed a considerable percentage of Turkish blood from the remnants of the Turkish raids into Europe. Turks are predominantly Caucasoid last time I checked.

[SlovenianNationalist]

Someone else speculated about the "whiteness" of Gypsies and I merely pointed out that the Gypsies which came to northeastern Slovenia absorbed a considerable percentage of Turkish blood from the remnants of the Turkish raids into Europe. Turks are predominantly Caucasoid last time I checked.

First time I hear about that. Do you have any proof?

I come from N-E Slovenia and gypsies there look simply gypsies to me, I've never seen any similarity with Turks in terms of appearance.

And why only N-E Slo. then?

[Professor John Frink]

First time I hear about that. Do you have any proof?

The only thing I can dig up ATM:

"Pomurje je ena redkih slovenskih pokrajin, v kateri so stalno naseljeni Romi. Prvi Romi so prišli s Turki, v večjem številu so jih naselili fevdalci v 17. in 18. stol. kot ceneno delovno silo."

Bela Sever: Pomurje A-Ž. Murska Sobota: GP Pomurski Tisk, 1993.


I come from N-E Slovenia

So do I.

Mislil sem, da si Močvirnik. ;)

and gypsies there look simply gypsies to me, I've never seen any similarity with Turks in terms of appearance.

Mulattos don't look particularly Caucasian to me either.


And why only N-E Slo. then?

I only have data on those.

[Ace Rimmer]

This is good start, we should get more to get these Slovenes go against each other,
this will make our invasion a lot of easier.

To contribute;
Hey SlovenianNationalist did you know that this countryman of yours
is filthy infidel jew on a stick type of pagan fairytale worshipper.

He should be at least impaled or quartered, if not, then exiled to mentioned gypsie community where he belongs. :D :p

[SlovenianNationalist]

The only thing I can dig up ATM:

"Pomurje je ena redkih slovenskih pokrajin, v kateri so stalno naseljeni Romi. Prvi Romi so prišli s Turki, v večjem številu so jih naselili fevdalci v 17. in 18. stol. kot ceneno delovno silo."

Bela Sever: Pomurje A-Ž. Murska Sobota: GP Pomurski Tisk, 1993.

Ok, thanks.


So do I.

Mislil sem, da si Močvirnik. ;)

I was born in Ljubljana and I live here.

My ancestry is 100% Prekmurjean. :D To be more precise, I'm 100% Goričanec. :)

Though I must admit, when it comes to football I cheer for Žabari, I can't help it, Olimpija is my favourite club since childhood. We are friends with FC Mura anyway...

Where do you come from?

[Professor John Frink]

My ancestry is 100% Prekmurjean. :D To be more precise, I'm 100% Goričanec. :)

Where do you come from?

100% of my immediate ancestors hail from Prekmurje, most of them from Goričko. :D I live elsewhere now.

[SlovenianNationalist]

I'm thinking about moving back to Prekmurje, where I belong.

Ljubljana is becoming more and more non-Slovenian with all those southerners = čefurji. Not to mention Janković. :rofl:

[Professor John Frink]

This is good start, we should get more to get these Slovenes go against each other,
this will make our invasion a lot of easier.

To contribute;
Hey SlovenianNationalist did you know that this countryman of yours
is filthy infidel jew on a stick type of pagan fairytale worshipper.

Talk about fairy tales and drug-induced halluciantions. :rofl:



He should be at least impaled or quartered, if not, then exiled to mentioned gypsie community where he belongs. :D :p

If you want to stoop to that level, we can always duke it out @ the savage Bosnian's spam forum. :bbbat: Let's keep the ph0ra clean and civil. ;)

[Ace Rimmer]

Talk about fairy tales and drug-induced halluciantions. :rofl:

How wrong am I?

Let's keep the ph0ra clean and civil. ;)

I don't choose place to out infidels and the enemies of the Christ.

We're on crusade right here (http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16259). :whip:

[6(sic)6]

The whole balkan has a problem with gypsies do like the KLA did chase them to Serbia.
One good way to get rid of the problem.

[Watzy]

The whole balkan has a problem with gypsies do like the KLA did chase them to Serbia.
One good way to get rid of the problem.

LOL Remember all those Gypsie faces amongst members of the Serbian Radical Party? :D

It seems like the Gypsies amongst Serbs tend to be more extreme than the regular Serbs in order to prove their Serbianism and loyalty - just like the mutts amongst White Nationalists tend to be the most obvious Skinheads.

[6(sic)6]

LOL Remember all those Gypsie faces amongst members of the Serbian Radical Party? :D

It seems like the Gypsies amongst Serbs tend to be more extreme than the regular Serbs in order to prove their Serbianism and loyalty - just like the mutts amongst White Nationalists tend to be the most obvious Skinheads.
Yeah I've saw some so called WN pics of serbs and lol some of them looked like the first pics of gypsies.

[Jebivjetar]

Most of the Albanians I've met don't look much better either. :D

[Watzy]

Albanians I know are frequently blond and especially redhaired.

One of major differences I noticed was a high frequence of red-haired gene, not so usual for Croats who range on average from chestnut brown to dark blond and ash blond. Their physiognomies also appeared more uniformed dinaric in respect to Croatian and especially Serbian, meaning they less interbred with others.

I've never noticed East-Baltic look present amongst Balkan Slavs amongst Albanians, meaning they did not mixed with Slavs a lot.

IMHO They appear distinct in respect to Croats but not less 'white'.

They are 'more white' than average Serbs in any case, and that's a fact I am saying not because I dislike Serbs and favor Albanians.

How did Albanians managed to preserve their racial qualities so well in respect to Serbians? I guess the right answer is because they lived as isolated mountain folk during the Turkish rule - much like Hertzegovians and Montenegrins, while the Serbs lived in lowland villages and were more exposed. Serbs also assimilated a lot of other nations such as Vlacks, Romanians, Bulgarians, Greeks, Gypsies ect., while Albanians remained an isolated clannish people up to these days.

[dimitrije]

Yeah I've saw some so called WN pics of serbs and lol some of them looked like the first pics of gypsies.Selam Ajlekum
What about that mongrel face from your avatar?
Are you aware of your origin

[Jebivjetar]

And what exactly is wrong with guy on avatar? :D

[GAYLORD]

They are \'more white\' than average Serbs in any case, and that\'s a fact I am saying not because I dislike Serbs and favor Albanians.
They are also \'more white\' than the most Croats (esp. those from Hercegovina and Dalmacija), but still the Croats look more European and civilized than those savages - we won\'t even mention the behaviour.

[Zrinski]

They are also \'more white\' than the most Croats (esp. those from Hercegovina and Dalmacija), but still the Croats look more European and civilized than those savages - we won\'t even mention the behaviour.

C.Coon didn't said so. He clearly observed that Croats are much more paler than Serbs and most alike to Slovenes and Austrians. And yes even the Dalmatians as well, Dalmatians only have darker hair and darker eyes in general (on average), so you are wrong.

[Jimbo Gomez]

The Croatians I saw weren't any darker than for example Italians.

[6(sic)6]

Selam Ajlekum
What about that mongrel face from your avatar?
Are you aware of your origin
That mongreal face from my avatar is Nick Carter from Backstreet boys.:dance2:

Yes, im aware of my origin one of europeas oldest who had the whole balkan before you serbs came. Why you wonder?
Srpski retardski.
:thanks:

[GAYLORD]

The Croatians I saw weren\'t any darker than for example Italians.
The Serbs were?

[GAYLORD]

C.Coon didn\\\'t said so. He clearly observed that Croats are much more paler than Serbs and most alike to Slovenes and Austrians. And yes even the Dalmatians as well, Dalmatians only have darker hair and darker eyes in general (on average), so you are wrong.
You wanna tell me that an average Croat from Southern Croatia is paler than a Serb from Western Serbia?
I do not think so. Climatic influences are a big factor in the case of Serbs and Croats.

[Jebivjetar]

That mongreal face from my avatar is Nick Carter from Backstreet boys.:dance2:
So, you're a [Personal insult]. Nice to know that. :rofl:

[Zrinski]

The Croatians I saw weren't any darker than for example Italians.

Differences between Italians(namely north Italians), Slovenes, Austrians and Croats are minimal. Though in average Croats are probably the tallest.

You wanna tell me that an average Croat from Southern Croatia is paler than a Serb from Western Serbia?

I am telling you that an average Croat is paler than an average Serb. Thats a fact.

I do not think so. Climatic influences are a big factor in the case of Serbs and Croats.

I don't care whether you think or not. Climate has the least to do with it.

[SlovenianNationalist]

They want to settle gypsies somewhere near Ljubljana, but the locals protest..

Pictures

http://shrani.si/thumbs/23112006001112176.jpg (http://shrani.si/o.php?23112006001112176.jpg) http://shrani.si/thumbs/23112006011112177.jpg (http://shrani.si/o.php?23112006011112177.jpg) http://shrani.si/thumbs/23112006021112178.jpg (http://shrani.si/o.php?23112006021112178.jpg)

[click on image for larger version]

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Here's an article on gypsy problem written by Slovenian nationalist organization Hervardi,

http://www.hervardi.com/ciganska_problematika.php

It's in Slovenian language, but the pictures tell more than 1000 words.

[The Serb]

You wanna tell me that an average Croat from Southern Croatia is paler than a Serb from Western Serbia?
I do not think so. Climatic influences are a big factor in the case of Serbs and Croats.

An average Serb from Slavonia is paler than an average croat from Herzegovina who is more closely related to the average Serb from Herzegovina.
An average Serb from Vojvodina is paler than an average croat from Dalmatia or Montenegro.

Regional differences are not that great but they are a factor.

[The Serb]

Yes, im aware of my origin one of europeas oldest who had the whole balkan before you serbs came. Why you wonder?
Srpski retardski.

Of course, the shiptars have such a rich pre Ottoman history of civilization, culture and achievement, damn those barbaric Serbians for destroying it.:rofl:

[Watzy]

serbs from Slavonia are (were) all southern carpetbaggers. The fact they live (lived) in Slavonia doesn't change the fact they also originated from southern ares mostly - from Bosnia forinstance, where they constitute a fresh and darkest element, genetically distant to Croats and overwhelming majority of Bosniaks.

[Zrinski]

An average Serb from Slavonia is paler than an average croat from Herzegovina who is more closely related to the average Serb from Herzegovina.
An average Serb from Vojvodina is paler than an average croat from Dalmatia or Montenegro.

Umm...not really. Average Serb from Slavonia or Vojvodina came as vagabond from areas such as Kosovo, Macedonia, southern Serbia,...

[Bartholomew Roberts]

I think for those that are unaware, one would be surprised by the amount of blondes and fair people from the islands of the Adriatic. The theory that the more south you go the darker the Croats get is largely nonsense.

[Zrinski]

Not only on the islands but in Dalmatia in general.

Typical tall, dark haired and swarthy Dalmatian :D :p ->

Luka Modric (from Zadar, Dalmatia)
http://img.epochtimes.com/i6/608170855481124.jpg

http://archive.db-aflo.com/editorial/thum_b_wm/20060308/20060308203141120.jpg

[Jimbo Gomez]

The Serbs were?


Didn't see any serbs.

@ Zrinski: If there is a height difference, it can't be large. I didn't see much of a difference there. I only saw the coastal region of course. It may be different inland.

[Zrinski]

@ Zrinski: If there is a height difference, it can't be large. I didn't see much of a difference there. I only saw the coastal region of course. It may be different inland.

What are you talking about?

[Jimbo Gomez]

Differences between Italians(namely north Italians), Slovenes, Austrians and Croats are minimal. Though in average Croats are probably the tallest.



I am telling you that an average Croat is paler than an average Serb. Thats a fact.



I don't care whether you think or not. Climate has the least to do with it.


I was replying to this post.

[SlovenianNationalist]

Not only on the islands but in Dalmatia in general.

Typical tall, dark haired and swarthy Dalmatian :D :p ->

Luka Modric (from Zadar, Dalmatia)
http://img.epochtimes.com/i6/608170855481124.jpg

http://archive.db-aflo.com/editorial/thum_b_wm/20060308/20060308203141120.jpg

Modric is indeed a good player, he has more talent for football than Kranjcar, who can't even run. Probably the best young player in Croatia at the moment.

[GAYLORD]

Umm...not really. Average Serb from Slavonia or Vojvodina came as vagabond from areas such as Kosovo, Macedonia, southern Serbia,...
Really, who cares who is paler and who is darker anyway? We are one people, that is what counts. :)
Let me quote the Catholic Encyclopedia:

While every other race in the Balkans, with the exception of the Western Serbs, called Hroats (Croats), went over to schism, the Roman Catholic faith remained secure in the fastnesses of northern Albania.
So do not let us squabble about it, brother.

[Bajlozi]

Of course, the shiptars have such a rich pre Ottoman history of civilization, culture and achievement, damn those barbaric Serbians for destroying it.:rofl:
Tell me Shkavelle wich one of this 2 serb "aryans" is your father;

http://www.dw-world.de/image/0,,1596337_4,00.jpghttp://www.setimes.com/cocoon/setimes/images/2005/04/05/IGORphoto.jpg

ehehehehe die serbishe herrmenchen heheheheehheh

[Watzy]

Really, who cares who is paler and who is darker anyway? We are one people, that is what counts. :)

Let me quote the Catholic Encyclopedia:

That article was written by Serb feminist Elisabeth ChrisTITch. ;)

http://www.tshirthell.com/shirts/products/a423/a423.gif:D

[GAYLORD]

That article was written by Serb feminist Elisabeth ChrisTITch.

Did she hack their website? :D

[Watzy]

Did she hack their website? :D

Are you trying to suggest her opinion reflects Vatican's official position on Croats? I can get you thousands of real priests bishops and nuns stating otherwise, and all you can get is a feminist scribble of a laic.

Serbs are not even mentioned under "Croatia" entry in Catholic encyclopedia.

The name Croatia is derived from that of a people called Croats (Hrvat, Chrobatos) i.e. "the nation ready to defend its home and rights", whose migration from Southwestern Russia and Galicia of to-day — then known as "White Croatia" or "Great Croatia" (Velika Hrvatska) — towards the old Illyricum and Dalmatia began in the early part of the fifth century. (...)

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04510a.htm

My advice to Elisabeth is to come to Herzegovina so that so that pupil-monks of 'Fra Satan' can explain a couple of things to her about Croats from the first hand. :rofl: http://www.crnalegija.com/neu_forum/images/smiles/icon_axe.gif

[GAYLORD]

Are you trying to suggest her opinion reflects Vaticans official position on Croats?

Why would they publish it in the Catholic Encyclopedia if it is not the opinion of the Vatikan?
Do you think they would post there something they do not agree with? lol

[Watzy]

Why would they publish it in the Catholic Encyclopedia if it is not the opinion of the Vatikan?
Do you think they would post there something they do not agree with? lol
Because "The Encyclopedia Press" who published it was sloppy and/or infiltrated by vukovian serbs.
Vatican gives its opinions via Roman curia, Vatican City Radio, Vatican City publishing house ect.

LOL Do you think Catholic Encyclopedia is some sort of the sacral book, or Bible or Papal Bull? There are no religious laws preventing Catholics to spit on it, or to use it as a toilet paper.

[GAYLORD]

Because The Encyclopedia Press who published it was sloppy and or infiltrated by vukovian serbs.
LOL You are really a funny guy, Watzy.

Do you think Catholic Encyclopedia is some sort of the sacral book, or Bible or Papal Bull? There are no religious laws preventing Catholics to spit on it, or to use it as a toilet paper.
The name says everything.

[Watzy]

The name says everything.

No it doesn't. You are an idiot if you think every Catholic laic or publisher is authorized to issue official statements for the Vatican.

[Watzy]

Doesn't this strike you as odd that this book was published in Protestant and Serb-allayed Britain 1914.

You'll never hear Chetnik shits coming from Vatican. Croat clergy is strongly represented in there, they even have Croatian Institute (of St. Hieronymus) in the strictest center of the Vatican City. :crusader: