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///M power
11-17-2006, 05:10 PM
hello to all you racists out there.
I need serious academic racial studies which point out difference between the races.
I need reliable ones from known universities/academies, or at least reliable.
this is for my collage so dont post crap:viking:
just good ones.
I only have the rushton which I posted,I need more..
:thanks: :thanks: :thanks:

J Van Der Meyde
11-17-2006, 06:00 PM
Virtually everything you need to know on Caucasoids.

http://www.sitesled.com/members/racialreality/subraces.html

///M power
11-17-2006, 06:38 PM
Virtually everything you need to know on Caucasoids.

http://www.sitesled.com/members/racialreality/subraces.html

I'm looking for a research which shows actual data and compares them between the races more like this one maybe:
http://www.harbornet.com/folks/theedrich/JP_Rushton/Race.htm

anyway I started looking in this study you gave me,I dont know if I can agree with it,its says that Jews are not exactly a different race.

"White Supremacists find it convenient to consider Jews a single race that's entirely distinct from European races."
it is different because the Ashkenazim still came from the middle east,if you dont judge by appearance, you can say that Jews(Ashkenazim)are a difference race then Europeans because they have different origins.

J Van Der Meyde
11-17-2006, 06:44 PM
Just looking at that study.

Can't believe that the top 3 infected AIDS groups are all blacks.

http://www.harbornet.com/folks/theedrich/JP_Rushton/Chart_05.jpg

///M power
11-17-2006, 06:52 PM
I need also something different, I know that there are studies that show that the Ashkenazim Jews are a different race then whites, well can anyone post a good study that shows it?
where are all the white supremacist when I need them to show me Jews aren't white? :rofl:
this is for an entirely different reason,a friend of mine is arguing with a stupid "pc" sociology teacher which says she wants evidence that Jews are a different race then whites(Ashkenazim)

Dr. Gutberlet
11-17-2006, 06:58 PM
http://www.revilo-oliver.com/

Mr. Oliver wrote several interesting articles on the subject of race.


http://www.racialcompact.com/racialdiversity.html

///M power
11-17-2006, 07:11 PM
http://www.revilo-oliver.com/

Mr. Oliver wrote several interesting articles on the subject of race.


http://www.racialcompact.com/racialdiversity.html


thanks, but I'm looking for data from a neutral source,not a white supremacist or something like that.
like the Rushton study I published..
and organized like a research not a story article.

///M power
11-17-2006, 07:12 PM
Just looking at that study.

Can't believe that the top 3 infected AIDS groups are all blacks.

http://www.harbornet.com/folks/theedrich/JP_Rushton/Chart_05.jpg

well they are the ones who "made" it.
after that homos were effected by it.

///M power
11-17-2006, 11:09 PM
BUMP
race experts where are you?

Hippias
11-17-2006, 11:22 PM
MP, the two best books on the taxonomy of racial groups are John Baker's Race and Carleton Coon's Living Races of Man. Both (especially Baker) explain in great detail the physical characteristics of each race. Sarich and Miele's Race: The Reality of Human Differences resoundingly debunks the "race has no biological reality" lie and presents solid evidence of biological differences between racial groups.

Der Sozialist
11-17-2006, 11:26 PM
Lynn, Jensen are good people to look up.

Try these books: Race Differences in Intelligence: An Evolutionary Analysis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_Differences_in_Intelligence)

Or this one: The Bell Curve (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve)

Here are some sources:

1. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=9242404)

2. (http://www.lrainc.com/swtaboo/taboos/apa_01.html)

4. (http://www.goodrumj.com/RFaqHTML.html)

3. (http://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1994WSJmainstream.pdf)

Note: you should also find sources that argue against these differences. Try Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza and Genes, Peoples, and Languages

///M power
11-17-2006, 11:36 PM
Lynn, Jensen are good people to look up.

Try these books: Race Differences in Intelligence: An Evolutionary Analysis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_Differences_in_Intelligence)

Or this one: The Bell Curve (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve)

Here are some sources:

1. (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=9242404)

2. (http://www.lrainc.com/swtaboo/taboos/apa_01.html)

4. (http://www.goodrumj.com/RFaqHTML.html)

3. (http://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1994WSJmainstream.pdf)

Note: you should also find sources that argue against these differences. Try Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza and Genes, Peoples, and Languages

ill check them out thanks!

///M power
11-17-2006, 11:36 PM
MP, the two best books on the taxonomy of racial groups are John Baker's Race and Carleton Coon's Living Races of Man. Both (especially Baker) explain in great detail the physical characteristics of each race. Sarich and Miele's Race: The Reality of Human Differences resoundingly debunks the "race has no biological reality" lie and presents solid evidence of biological differences between racial groups.

I'm looking for more then the obvious,physical stuff is nothing,you dont need to be an expert to tell you Chinese Nordics and Negros look differently everyone agrees with that.
the Rushton study I published shows many different properties from brain size to reproduction.
I'm looking for a study like this,that shows the difference not only in physical appearance.

and the studies that people showd me here take only the 3major groups.
Caucasoid,Mongol,Negro
inside the Caucasoid there is everything from Nordic to Arab,its not good enough.
and I need it in a site not a book.

///M power
11-17-2006, 11:38 PM
I gave you sites but you should check out the books.

ok I saw your link after I posted my comment.
does it show that Ashkenazim Jews are different race then whites?I also need this.

Der Sozialist
11-17-2006, 11:44 PM
ok I saw your link after I posted my comment.
does it show that Ashkenazim Jews are different race then whites?I also need this.

No, but here are some sources examining the IQ differential between Ashkenazi Jews and others:

Try here (http://homepage.mac.com/harpend/.Public/AshkenaziIQ.jbiosocsci.pdf):

or here (http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2006/05/more-on-iq-of-ashkenazi-jews.php)

The books I listed will also have info.

Hippias
11-17-2006, 11:50 PM
I'm looking for more then the obvious,physical stuff is nothing,you dont need to be an expert to tell you Chinese Nordics and Negros look differently everyone agrees with that.
the Rushton study I published shows many different properties from brain size to reproduction.
I'm looking for a study like this,that shows the difference not only in physical appearance.

I didn't say that the books I recommended talk about appearance. You misunderstood me. Coon and Baker explain the physical characteristics of every living race down to the last detail. Everything: bone density, prognathicism, size of cranial cavity. Baker's book even talks about the subraces within each race, including Jews. Find Baker's book if you can.

and the studies that people showd me here take only the 3major groups.
Caucasoid,Mongol,Negro
inside the Caucasoid there is everything from Nordic to Arab,its not good enough.
and I need it in a site not a book.

I'm sorry, you said "academic studies." I didn't realize you wanted web sites. Jon Entine maintains a website that discusses race difference and how they give certain races advantages in professional sports. You may want to look at that.

www.jonentine.com

///M power
11-17-2006, 11:50 PM
No, but here are some sources examining the IQ differential between Ashkenazi Jews and others:

Try here (http://homepage.mac.com/harpend/.Public/AshkenaziIQ.jbiosocsci.pdf):

or here (http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2006/05/more-on-iq-of-ashkenazi-jews.php)

The books I listed will also have info.


VERY GOOD! :thanks: :thanks: :thanks:

Hippias
11-17-2006, 11:56 PM
Here ya go MP:

http://www.jonentine.com/sports_race.htm

http://www.snpa.nordish.net/racesofeurope.htm

http://www.snpa.nordish.net/chapter-XI7.htm

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
11-17-2006, 11:57 PM
Race realism magazine's website.
www.amren.com

Reliability may be in question as this is a geocities free hosting site.
http://www.geocities.com/racial_reality/

///M power
11-18-2006, 12:04 AM
Here ya go MP:

http://www.jonentine.com/sports_race.htm

http://www.snpa.nordish.net/racesofeurope.htm

http://www.snpa.nordish.net/chapter-XI7.htm

thanks carl!

Ahknaton
11-18-2006, 01:48 AM
This is a good resource:

http://racialreality.shorturl.com/

(The site has the complete text of Carleton Coon's "The Races of Europe).

The Wikipedia article on race is not bad, and has a lot of good links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race

This is a good article refuting Lewontin's claim that race is a "social construct", which is the standard leftist/anti-racist position:

http://raceandgenomics.ssrc.org/Leroi/

Also, do searches for anything by Jean Phillpe Rushton, Arthur Jensen, and Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza. For the opposing views check out Stephen Jay Gould and Richard Lewontin.

OVERWATCH
11-18-2006, 01:54 AM
Check out John R. Baker's Race.

There are other good books out there, but I don't recommend books I haven't read (yet).

Professor John Frink
11-18-2006, 09:24 PM
A few studies on the genetic level:

Genetic structure, self-identified race/ethnicity, and confounding in case-control association studies:
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed&pubmedid=15625622

Categorization of humans in biomedical research: genes, race and disease:
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=139378

Clines, Clusters, and the Effect of Study Design on the Inference of Human Population Structure:
http://genetics.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-document&doi=10.1371/journal.pgen.0010070

A variant of the gene encoding leukotriene A4 hydrolase confers ethnicity-specific risk of myocardial infarction:
http://www.nature.com/ng/journal/v38/n1/full/ng1692.html

The Use of Racial, Ethnic, and Ancestral Categories in Human Genetics Research:
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1275602

Ongoing Adaptive Evolution of ASPM, a Brain Size Determinant in Homo sapiens:
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/309/5741/1720

Microcephalin, a Gene Regulating Brain Size, Continues to Evolve Adaptively in Humans:
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/309/5741/1717

FDA Approves BiDil Heart Failure Drug for Black Patients:
http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2005/NEW01190.html

///M power
11-18-2006, 10:01 PM
A few studies on the genetic level:

Genetic structure, self-identified race/ethnicity, and confounding in case-control association studies:
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pubmed&pubmedid=15625622

Categorization of humans in biomedical research: genes, race and disease:
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=139378

Clines, Clusters, and the Effect of Study Design on the Inference of Human Population Structure:
http://genetics.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-document&doi=10.1371/journal.pgen.0010070

A variant of the gene encoding leukotriene A4 hydrolase confers ethnicity-specific risk of myocardial infarction:
http://www.nature.com/ng/journal/v38/n1/full/ng1692.html

The Use of Racial, Ethnic, and Ancestral Categories in Human Genetics Research:
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1275602

Ongoing Adaptive Evolution of ASPM, a Brain Size Determinant in Homo sapiens:
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/309/5741/1720

Microcephalin, a Gene Regulating Brain Size, Continues to Evolve Adaptively in Humans:
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/309/5741/1717

FDA Approves BiDil Heart Failure Drug for Black Patients:
http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2005/NEW01190.html

thanks!
Im arguing with a stupid asshole that says there are no races.
I'll post your links also..

Morpheus
11-18-2006, 10:09 PM
Microcephalin, a Gene Regulating Brain Size, Continues to Evolve Adaptively in Humans:
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/309/5741/1717

This one is of interest.

I know that racists love the idea of a gene being identified that controls brain size at an evolutionary adaptive rate.

I'd like to see if it is consistent with racial views.

Gotta research.... :negro:

Professor John Frink
11-19-2006, 12:25 AM
This one is of interest.

I know that racists love the idea of a gene being identified that controls brain size at an evolutionary adaptive rate.

I'd like to see if it is consistent with racial views.

Gotta research.... :negro:
It hasn't been established what exactly this particular mutation does.

You should also check out the ASPM study.

Professor John Frink
11-19-2006, 11:07 PM
A few more interesting tidbits:

Categorization of humans in biomedical research: genes, race and disease:
http://genomebiology.com/2002/3/7/comment/2007

Heart risk gene hits African Americans hardest:
http://www.newscientist.com/channel/life/genetics/dn8300

Nyx
11-20-2006, 05:22 AM
hello to all you racists out there.
I need serious academic racial studies which point out difference between the races.
I need reliable ones from known universities/academies, or at least reliable.
this is for my collage so dont post crap:viking:
just good ones.
I only have the rushton which I posted,I need more..
:thanks: :thanks: :thanks:Race, Evolution, and Behavior by Rushton
Race Differences in Intelligence: An Evolutionary Analysis by Richard Lynn
Straight Talk on Mental Tests by Jensen (largely about IQ tests, but deals with race and the genetic basis of the racial IQ gap)
Intelligence, Race, and Genetics by Jensen