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Farkas
11-19-2006, 09:49 AM
The Origin of the Coloureds in South Africa

There are five different types of Coloureds.

1. Cape Coloured
2. Cape Malay
3. Griqua
4. Basters
5. Other Coloureds

The origin of the Cape Coloureds: Three choices and forced marriage

The Cape Coloureds are the result of interracial mixingbetween Xhosa and Khoikhoi (a subrace of the Khoisan), Dutch Cape Colonists and the Khoikhoi or the mixing between the Dutch Cape Colonists and their slaves. The origins are to be found between the 17th and 18th century when White colonists, under the leadership of Jan van Riebeeck, were expanding on South African soil. This caused the Khoikhoi to have three options to choose. The decisions that they made individually depended on their animals, the Khoikhoi’s basic economy. They could decide to live with the black Xhosas or with the White Dutch colonists and the last option was to live up north. The Khoikhoi that we see today are the descendents of those that chose the third option.

The Khoikhoi could live with the Xhosa, but they would end up as the lowest citizen in Xhosa hierarchy and lose their cattle. They would live free, though. Some people of the two cultures mixed and little Coloured babies were a result.

If they lived with the White settlers, they could keep their cattle. But they had to work as a modified form of slaves. They had to work on their boss’ land to get permission to cultivate their own.So, obviously, there was some race mixing aswell.

The third reason for the existence of the Cape Coloureds is the slaves, imported by the Dutch colonists. These slaves had the purpose to be the wife of the single Dutch males. That is another explanation of the existence of Cape Coloureds. The origin of these slaves are still unknown to me.

The Cape Coloureds speak Afrikaans and are Christians of the Dutch Reformed Church.

I looked on the internet if there were specific names for these three categories, unfortunately there is not.

So the name ‘Cape Coloureds’ is the collective name for those three categories as described above in the three different colours.

http://www.capetown.at/heritage/peoples/images/coloured_flower_seller.JPG
Cape Coloured


The origin of the Cape Malay

The Cape Malay are slaves imported of Indonesia, Mozambique and Madagascar. Those three countries had something in common in the 17th Century: the Islam.

Indonesia received Arab guests in the 12th century that sold them as slaves. It is from there that Indonesia has their Islamitic origins.

In Mozambique, there were Arab slave traders before the Portuguese came.

Madagascar had these Arab parasites since the 7th century. This is long before the Portuguese Diego Dias decided to drop by and even longer before the French conquered the land.

So, what are these Cape Malay people? These Cape Malay people are the slaves, from those three countries, that mixed with their Dutch bosses. The Islam, that is widely present in modern South Africa, has been carried forth by those slaves. The Cape Malay are, in other words, Muslims.

The Cape Malay are easily recognised by the clothes they are wearing. Some of them go dressed in Arabic clothes and they always wear a hat. Most Cape Malay live in Cape Town nowadays.

http://www.knet.co.za/capemalay/images/meneating.jpg
Cape Malay Coloureds


The Griqua

Now you have the third category named the Griqua. Those were the Cape Coloureds (Khoikhoi mixed with the Dutch settlers) that went north, in the direction of Rhodesia (Zimbabwe), and mixed with the black Tswana (and a little bit with the Zulus). Today there are only about 300.000 left. Even though they have mixed with the kaffirs Tswana’s, they still carried the Afrikaans language with them. Therefore, they speak Afrikaans nowadays. They have their own church, but it is a branch of the Christian church. It is called the Griqua church.


The Basters

The origin of the Basters lies with the interracial mixing between kaffir women (presumably Xhosa) and the Dutch colonists. In the 19th century, they headed north to find land. They found this in Central Namibia, Angola and Lubango. Most of them live in Namibia. There is only a maximum of 40.000 of these specimens.

Their name ‘Baster’ is derived from the Dutch word ‘bastaard’ (which means ‘bastard’). The funny thing is that they are proud of this word. :D


The Other Coloureds

About them, I do not have much to say. They are simply a mixture of these four other categories.


Conclusion: Prevention

Hereby I can conclude that, if we continue this race mixing in Europe, we will only have these types of people walking around the Eiffel tower, the Big Ben and the tower of Pisa.

The only thing we can do to prevent this, is to fornicate with White (wo)men and have lots of babies to be raised under racially aware education.

Time to make babies, ladies and gentlemen!

Ahknaton
11-19-2006, 01:21 PM
What is the attitude of South African Blacks towards Coloured? Do they regard them as "one of their own" or more like Whites? Who do the Coloureds side with politically?
Indonesia received Arab guests in the 12th century that sold them as slaves. It is from there that Indonesia has their Islamitic origins.
It's rather pathetic that the Indonesians retained the religion of their former slave masters.

Farkas
11-19-2006, 02:39 PM
What is the attitude of South African Blacks towards Coloured? Do they regard them as "one of their own" or more like Whites? Who do the Coloureds side with politically?

The kaffirs and Coloureds don't get along very well. It is very difficult to spot a Coloured and a kaffir having a friendly or sexual relationship. I don't know why they are against each other. I think that the hostility comes from the blacks. They don't seem to be friendly towards Somali immigrants, either. And when I mean not friendly, I mean that these two groups are shooting each other and bodies are being found everyday.

The Coloureds vote for the Democratic Alliance, which is a predominantly White political party. So, politically, they side with the Whites. The Coloureds also have more brains than the kaffirs. The kaffirs don't realize they had it financially better in apartheid than today. They vote with their emotions rather than with their brains. When they hear of their old heroes (read terrorists) named Mandela, Sisulu and Hani they hear the ANC. That is why they vote for the ANC, because of old romanticism. And that is also the reason why the ANC stayed in power. Most, if not all, of the kaffirs vote for the ANC and since they are demographically stronger, the ANC stays in power. If Aids would be more quick, then the DA would have probably come in power. But unfortunately it is not so. The ANC will stay in power for the rest of the existence of the world.

The Coloureds, on the other hand, had it better with the White government. They were granted some voting rights and in the Botha era, they even had their own parliament. But that is not the most important thing. They are much smarter than the kaffirs are and when it goes bad financially, they realize that changes need to be made. The ANC introduced its Affirmative Action and Black Economic Empowerment and that is how South Africa's economy is dropping considerably. The DA consist of Whites and they would improve the economy a lot better since Whites have two things that blacks don't have: Responsability and Accountability. Those are also the two main reasons why democracy has failed in Africa. A Coloured person is always more trusting towards a White man than towards a black man. That is the main reason why they vote for a White party. The ANC screwed up, and that proved to them that kaffirs are not to be trusted. The daily confrontations with the kaffirs also does not make them eager to vote a black party, mind you.

dannymu
12-20-2006, 12:57 PM
Hereby I can conclude that, if we continue this race mixing in Europe, we will only have these types of people walking around the Eiffel tower, the Big Ben and the tower of Pisa.
:applause So what is your problem with race mixing?

The Cape Coloureds speak Afrikaans and are Christians of the Dutch Reformed Church.
Now tell me. Do you have a problem with the Cape Coloureds coming to Europe? After all they are Christians of the Dutch Reformed Church ie follow and respect the traditions and are easier to integrate.

It's rather pathetic that the Indonesians retained the religion of their former slave masters.
No it isn't.

Jimbo Gomez
12-20-2006, 01:10 PM
Danny:

1) the biological uniformity of their nation is important to a lot of people

2) I personally wouldn't want them to move to Europe, but they'd definately be better immigrants than the pure 100% negroes we have now

3) retaining the religion that was forced on you by people who put you in chains is weak and pathetic; negro slaves in the Americas weren't usually forced to convert, and did so on their own, but these people were never given that choice

dannymu
12-20-2006, 01:20 PM
they'd definately be better immigrants than the pure 100% negroes we have now
WHy so? I know "pure 100% negroes" who are practising Christians and are well integrated.

Jimbo Gomez
12-20-2006, 01:24 PM
Take a walk through Brussels or Paris for example, to see how the typical subsaharan immigrant in Europe behaves, how much they contribute to the benefit of those cities and how criminal they behave. There is no better teacher in these matters than personal experience and observation.

Dr. Gutberlet
12-20-2006, 01:42 PM
I encourage savages to have relations with the daughters of white liberal trash.

Farkas
12-21-2006, 08:05 AM
:applause So what is your problem with race mixing?

That we will lose a certain species of humans in the world due to racemixing. You wouldn't like that to happen would you? Or is your TV and wallet more important to you? Would you ever be able to accept that all what your forefathers have spilled their blood on would be given to non-Europeans?
I hope not.

Now tell me. Do you have a problem with the Cape Coloureds coming to Europe? After all they are Christians of the Dutch Reformed Church ie follow and respect the traditions and are easier to integrate.


Yes, I do have a problem with that. They are just as bad as kaffirs, only a bit smarter.

No it isn't.

Arabs kick and hit you and then you are too afraid to stick with your own religion? If you can't be proud of your race or tradition then you are not worth to be called a human. So, it is very pathetic!

dannymu
12-21-2006, 11:58 AM
That we will lose a certain species of humans in the world due to racemixing. You wouldn't like that to happen would you?
I don't care with racemixing as long as it's within people of the same religious faith.

Would you ever be able to accept that all what your forefathers have spilled their blood on would be given to non-Europeans?
I think you would consider me "non-European"...

Jimbo Gomez
12-21-2006, 12:08 PM
What's your race Danny? None of that 'human' crap replies please. :p

dannymu
12-21-2006, 12:16 PM
Race? I'm neither white nor black. Let me give you a clue: my grand-parents were Indian.

Jimbo Gomez
12-21-2006, 12:21 PM
Injuns or dotheads? Are you from that Portuguese city in India?

dannymu
12-21-2006, 12:23 PM
Are you from that Portuguese city in India?
No. My grand-parents were. I was born in Europe and have always lived there.

Jimbo Gomez
12-21-2006, 12:27 PM
Why did you convert to anglicism and why do you intend to become British?

dannymu
12-21-2006, 12:33 PM
I didn't convert. I was raised a Baptist and then also joined the Anglican Church (if that's what you mean by anglicism).

I was born in Britain, love the country and its heritage and want to fully participate in the country's life.

Petyr Baelish
12-24-2006, 04:19 AM
I didn't convert. I was raised a Baptist and then also joined the Anglican Church (if that's what you mean by anglicism).

I was born in Britain, love the country and its heritage and want to fully participate in the country's life.

Methinks 'tis Ixabert or Raina who sits typing behind this member's monitor.

Dances with Wolves
12-24-2006, 04:44 AM
I don't care with racemixing as long as it's within people of the same religious faith.


I think you would consider me "non-European"...
Well, that explains it all, doesn't it?

Dances with Wolves
12-24-2006, 04:48 AM
No. My grand-parents were. I was born in Europe and have always lived there.

You will never be considered European.