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Apologist
11-19-2006, 07:02 PM
Your opinions?



http://youtube.com/watch?v=5g7zlJx9u2E

I am thinking...resisting arrest...disturbing the peace...ostruction of justice...and perhaps trespassing?

My stepfather (a deputy for the local sherrif's offic) and I watched it, and we both thought it was hilarious.

Sulla the Dictator
11-19-2006, 07:05 PM
What a bunch of obnoxious little twats. As if campus security is in any way related to "the Patriot Act".

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
11-19-2006, 07:06 PM
Sometimes cops have a tendency to believe they are invincible...and they're not.

Apologist
11-19-2006, 07:06 PM
What a bunch of obnoxious little twats. As if campus security is in any way related to "the Patriot Act".

I actually saw this in another forum. Check this out.


http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=507407

I could scarcely believe these sumbitches.

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
11-19-2006, 07:10 PM
I want to clarify though, I have a postive opinion towards my local cops. They are usually just hard working people who are trying to stop bad guys.

However, there is a such thing as a corrupt cop, and they must be stood up to.

Apologist
11-19-2006, 07:10 PM
However, there is a such thing as a corrupt cop, and they must be stood up to.

Am I to presume that you are against the ass kicking that this guy got? Why? Frankly, I think they should have forgone the tazer, and just knocked the shit out of him with their batons.

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
11-19-2006, 07:13 PM
Well why was he tazed? Was it justified? Or was it just people who go into that line to abuse their power? Sort of like child-molesting priest?

If they did not have a sufficient reason to taze him, they should be punished to the full extent of the law. I make no apologies for this. Cops are not above the law.

Sulla the Dictator
11-19-2006, 07:13 PM
I want to clarify though, I have a postive opinion towards my local cops. They are usually just hard working people who are trying to stop bad guys.

However, there is a such thing as a corrupt cop, and they must be stood up to.

College police aren't real police. They're losers. I don't know which I dislike more, the likely student body of UCLA or the jagg offs in charge of their security. But I know that it was satisfying to see this noob get tasered.

Apologist
11-19-2006, 07:14 PM
Well why was he tazed? Was it justified? Or was it just people who go into that line to abuse their power? Sort of like child-molesting priest?

If they did not have a sufficient reason to taze him, they should be punished to the full extent of the law. I make no apologies for this. Cops are not above the law.

He refused to move. He got tazered. He refused to move even AFTER he got tasered. He was acting an ass.

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
11-19-2006, 07:15 PM
Why was he asked to move?

Mike
11-19-2006, 07:15 PM
Using the taser this many times is weak. You mean none of these cops could get him in a joint lock and escort him out? Or, just cuff his hands and feet and carry him out? Affirmative action has sure done a wrecking job on our police people's skills.

Apologist
11-19-2006, 07:16 PM
Why was he asked to move?

He refused to show his id. He refused to leave when he failed to do so. He resisted when the police came. Thus, the newb got his ass tasered.

Apologist
11-19-2006, 07:17 PM
Using the taser this many times is weak.

I agree. They should have beaten him down with a flashlight, and shot him in the knee caps. Then, he would have had an excuse not to move.

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
11-19-2006, 07:21 PM
Honestly it was obsessive and the legal system should look into keeping the cops in line. It could have been acheived in a less extreme manner. They didn't have to taze the guy. They CHOSE to. These things are supposed to be used as a last resort. The guy wasn't cooperating. But that doesn't put the cops off the hook.

Mike
11-19-2006, 07:22 PM
Yeah let's crack open someone's skull with a flashlight because they refuse to obey your order. Truly, one senses the Holy Spirit in your words.

I agree. They should have beaten him down with a flashlight, and shot him in the knee caps. Then, he would have had an excuse not to move.

Apologist
11-19-2006, 07:25 PM
Honestly it was obsessive and the legal system should look into keeping the cops in line. It could have been acheived in a less extreme manner. They didn't have to taze the guy. They CHOSE to. These things are supposed to be used as a last resort. The guy wasn't cooperating. But that doesn't put the cops off the hook.

They usually don't have to do this. This guy was being an ass. This is how it USUALLY works:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=WcQ501U6pA0

The student kept resisting. That merits a full fleded beat down. No?

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
11-19-2006, 07:30 PM
No?
No. I don't agree, since, you asked. The goal is to get the job done as cleanly as possible. In the second video it may have been more justified.

Apologist
11-19-2006, 07:32 PM
No. I don't agree, since, you asked. The goal is to get the job done as cleanly as possible. In the second video it may have been more justified.

But the second guy actually resisted LESS. No?

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
11-19-2006, 07:36 PM
I firmly believe the police overstepped their boundries here by tazing a guy who was trying to leave the library. The guy should have been more cooperative. He should have just showed the id to shut them up. Sometimes in life you have to do that. But the police were still wrong here.

I'm sorry if you are friends with a Sheroff and think that policemen can't ever be wrong.

Leshrac
11-19-2006, 10:32 PM
Are you complete idiots ?

Yeah yeah it's a kid, yeah yeah it's a mud.

Think larger than that... If cops (even campus cops) start zapping students who forgot their id, what do you think they're gonna do next ?

And just because he's a mud doesn't mean it can only happend to him, i would love to see one of you guys get equal treatment in the exact same situation then argue about your rights and how you'll call your lawyer and "that guy you know at the N.Y times".

Hell, if the kid happened to be yours you probably would be harassing the D.A. already.

:bbbat:

OVERWATCH
11-19-2006, 11:00 PM
WHile this was mdoeratelyentertaining, it is not news worthy and should not have been posted in Current Affairs (or the Lyceum for that matter)

My comment:

Buncha little snot-nosed punks. They should have beaten him good with silly clubs and dragged him out by the nape of his neck. *whine* I'm going to wesist awesst and if you hoit me you are violating my ciwil wights!!!*whine*

Pppppppppppoisecution!!!!

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
11-20-2006, 03:37 AM
Are you complete idiots ?

Yeah yeah it's a kid, yeah yeah it's a mud.

Think larger than that... If cops (even campus cops) start zapping students who forgot their id, what do you think they're gonna do next ?

And just because he's a mud doesn't mean it can only happend to him, i would love to see one of you guys get equal treatment in the exact same situation then argue about your rights and how you'll call your lawyer and "that guy you know at the N.Y times".

Hell, if the kid happened to be yours you probably would be harassing the D.A. already.

:bbbat:
What we need to do now is watch how the case is handled. If they are given a tough run against them legally, we know this is just a fluke accident, but it a month from now nothing is done, then that would reflect negatively.

Ahknaton
11-20-2006, 04:11 AM
I read somewhere that after being tased some people are unable to stand properly for 5-10 minutes because it gives them temporary semi-paralysis by making their muscles go limp. It's extremely stupid to tase someone and them threaten to tase them again if they don't stand up immediately. IMHO tasing should only be for dangerous suspects, and not to deal with uncooperative individuals.

Leshrac
11-20-2006, 04:44 AM
A taser can kill an adult.

Use of taser on an adult -> Dangerous.
Use of taser on a kid -> VERY dangerous.

These cops should be kicked off their jobs immediately, it's not like they were risking their lives in a 4 35yo trained guys vs 1 loud 17yo kid match... That fact alone is enough to get rid of these rogues.

Mike
11-20-2006, 04:57 AM
They were incompetent - I can't believe they did it in front of so many people.

A taser can kill an adult.

Use of taser on an adult -> Dangerous.
Use of taser on a kid -> VERY dangerous.

These cops should be kicked off their jobs immediately, it's not like they were risking their lives in a 4 35yo trained guys vs 1 loud 17yo kid match... That fact alone is enough to get rid of these rogues.

Ahknaton
11-20-2006, 04:59 AM
Did you see the dumbass cop threatening another student with being tasered at the end, just for talking back to him?

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
11-20-2006, 05:01 AM
He'll get his punishment. I'm fairly confident in this.

Gleb
11-20-2006, 05:20 AM
The problem with this situation is that cops were trying to make it personal, to submit the person to their will, to break him, not to escort him out of the premises, there are a lot of ways to do that. They could have carried him out, considering there were at least 4 of them.

OVERWATCH
11-20-2006, 03:52 PM
The snot-nosed brat who was tasered was not a child, but an apparently healthy young man. Therefore the tasering was not 'very dangerous'. Furthermore, officers intuitively know when someone is incapable of standing, and when they are actively resisting arrest by shfting their body weight.

As with regards to the bystanders, some of them were being rather aggressive, and it would have been wise of them to keep their distance and keep their damn mouths shut. Screwing around with cops, and refusing to comply, is dangerous and unadvisable, especially when there is already a volatile and unstable situtation unfolding.

Daniel Shays
11-20-2006, 04:00 PM
GREAT VIDEO. 5 stars. I love watching people get tasered. Here's one done by a highway cop to a black woman:

http://thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=9037

Sulla didn't approve of that one because she was non-white.

As with regards to the bystanders, some of them were being rather aggressive, and it would have been wise of them to keep their distance and keep their damn mouths shut. Screwing around with cops, and refusing to comply, is dangerous and unadvisable, especially when there is already a volatile and unstable situtation unfolding. I would have liked to see the entire crowd indescriminately tazed, personally.

OVERWATCH
11-20-2006, 04:13 PM
Cop Tasers Himself (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ab95_zV-tkE)

News Reporter gets Tasered (http://youtube.com/watch?v=YlU0OY-6pR4)

Police taser woman (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ptRZLfw2_NI)

Women protester tasered (http://youtube.com/watch?v=2wTj-Zc86hw)

Tasered-And-Screams-Like-A-Baby (http://youtube.com/watch?v=2tLMzRGE4wo)

Real TASER Stories - Episode 1 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=aDkV4472CyE)


New taser technology (http://youtube.com/watch?v=aa0N1PODsZc)

Hrolf Kraki
11-20-2006, 04:17 PM
A buddy of mine got harrassed by the police once for no reason. After he refused to comply they tasered him multiple times. Needless to say, he sued for a substantial amount of money that ended up being settled out of court for a 6-figure sum.

Daniel Shays
11-20-2006, 04:19 PM
A buddy of mine got harrassed by the police once for no reason. After he refused to comply they tasered him multiple times. Needless to say, he sued for a substantial amount of money that ended up being settled out of court for a 6-figure sum. Your buddy sounds gay.

Thanks for the links, FlaK.

Hrolf Kraki
11-20-2006, 04:22 PM
I read somewhere that after being tased some people are unable to stand properly for 5-10 minutes because it gives them temporary semi-paralysis by making their muscles go limp. It's extremely stupid to tase someone and them threaten to tase them again if they don't stand up immediately. IMHO tasing should only be for dangerous suspects, and not to deal with uncooperative individuals.

It also burns their flesh. Yes, tasering someone then ordering them to stand up immediately is ridiculous. I'm surprised that the crowd didn't get involved.

At the end I heard an officer tell a guy that if he didn't step back he'd get tasered. Threats such as those are completely out of line.

Hrolf Kraki
11-20-2006, 04:24 PM
Your buddy sounds gay.


You want his number or something?

OVERWATCH
11-20-2006, 04:37 PM
Miami ppolice tase protestors (http://youtube.com/watch?v=1LCQgREv5b8)

Rottweiler vs. taser (http://youtube.com/watch?v=BYr1Qm3KyIs):rofl:

fatass gets tased (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Arf_wPigU7w)

Tased by cops (http://youtube.com/watch?v=3gqMT0Ek8ac)

Real TASER Stories - Episode 2 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=2roY9lok0LE)

Drunk Gets Tased... again and again (http://youtube.com/watch?v=jycsQe1F-sE) :rofl:

Not a taser per se, but funny as hell (http://youtube.com/watch?v=WNQ8fyHTZcw) :rofl:

Guy getting Tased on Live TV (http://youtube.com/watch?v=9p9SSFsGmik)

Fat negress gets tased (http://youtube.com/watch?v=KSG19c3elhQ) :rofl:

NBC4 TV report on "tasering" of UCLA student by LA police (http://youtube.com/watch?v=x1Ss_F2e-Ec)

Guy gets tased (http://youtube.com/watch?v=02pSff8dI1M)

Huge guy gets tased (http://youtube.com/watch?v=WcQ501U6pA0)

Daniel Shays
11-20-2006, 04:44 PM
You want his number or something? No. Your friend claims to have been tased for no reason. So did this guy:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Arf_wPigU7w

Does he happen to be your 'buddy'?

Thanks for the new links, FlaK.

OVERWATCH
11-20-2006, 04:45 PM
At the end I heard an officer tell a guy that if he didn't step back he'd get tasered. Threats such as those are completely out of line.

No, they aren't. Cops should not let people within a certain distance to their sidearm, especially when they are presently occupied with someone who is resisting, and the hostility of the crowd increased the risk of an officer's sidearm being taken, and then you have a deadly situation on your hands.

Hrolf Kraki
11-20-2006, 04:47 PM
No, they aren't. Cops should not let people within a certain distance to their sidearm, especially when they are presently occupied with someone who is resisting, and the hostility of the crowd increased the risk of an officer's sidearm being taken and then you have a deadly situation on your hands.

Asking someone to step back is fine, but threatening them is not. If the person doesn't step back, then make a threat, but making threats to start off with is just plain rude. I don't like when police officers are rude to people for absolutely no reason. My dad was a police officer for the city in which I live and he treated people with respect until they decided to be douchebags.

Hrolf Kraki
11-20-2006, 04:49 PM
No. Your friend claims to have been tased for no reason. So did this guy:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Arf_wPigU7w

Does he happen to be your 'buddy'?


Did that guy sue and get money? My friend was in his backyard minding his own business. The cops told him to get up and go inside. He refused. He got tasered. The police department doesn't hand out money because they had a reason to taser someone..... :rolleyes:

OVERWATCH
11-20-2006, 05:05 PM
Asking someone to step back is fine, but threatening them is not. If the person doesn't step back, then make a threat, but making threats to start off with is just plain rude. I don't like when police officers are rude to people for absolutely no reason. My dad was a police officer for the city in which I live and he treated people with respect until they decided to be douchebags.

Maybe I should watch the video again, but it seemed to me that the crowd of stew-dents were acting pretty much like douchebags.

Hrolf Kraki
11-20-2006, 05:08 PM
Maybe I should watch the video again, but it seemed to me that the crowd of stew-dents were acting pretty much like douchebags.

Some of them were, but not all of them. Most of them just seemed concerned about the guy who kept getting tasered. The guys who were being douchebags were the ones over talking to the asian cop.

It'd be interesting to know what started this whole chain of events.

Daniel Shays
11-20-2006, 05:18 PM
I wonder what his 'medical condition' is. Aspergers or AD(H)D?

Sulla the Dictator
11-20-2006, 10:03 PM
Its ridiculous when people complain about tasers. Seventy years ago they would have had to fire live rounds to disperse mobs. Twenty years ago it would have been rubber bullets, which can be lethal.

These tasers allow you malcontents/outcasts/extremists to harass our society repeatedly rather than just once. You should thank us for how humane we are using these things.

Starr
11-20-2006, 10:14 PM
Some cops think they are all bad ass when they have the uniform on and everyone better show them the proper respect or else. A lot of those kind of people are naturally going to be drawn to that kind of career. There are also people out there who think laws don't apply to them and they can act in whatever way they want, while displaying a smart-ass attitude, which feeds into the cops who are control freaks. I am seeing hints of a little of both here.

Daniel Shays
11-20-2006, 10:17 PM
These tasers allow you malcontents/outcasts/extremists to harass our society repeatedly rather than just once. You should thank us for how humane we are using these things.
They will also allow neocons to be peacefully herded onto cattle cars in the not-so-distant future.

Ahknaton
11-20-2006, 10:18 PM
Its ridiculous when people complain about tasers. Seventy years ago they would have had to fire live rounds to disperse mobs. Twenty years ago it would have been rubber bullets, which can be lethal.

These tasers allow you malcontents/outcasts/extremists to harass our society repeatedly rather than just once. You should thank us for how humane we are using these things.
He was a student in the library without his ID card, ffs. That's hardly what I'd call a "malcontent/outcast/extremist" in need of being violently subdued.

Heavens to Betsy
11-20-2006, 10:21 PM
The kid might have been a douchebag or an asshole or just a moron but I think we should hold the police to higher standands than the average moron and the cops were way out of line here.

Björn
11-20-2006, 11:22 PM
That was actually kinda funny! :viking:

OVERWATCH
11-20-2006, 11:59 PM
He was a student in the library without his ID card, ffs. That's hardly what I'd call a "malcontent/outcast/extremist" in need of being violently subdued.

Keep in mind that the quality of the video footage of this incident is extremely poor,and we can't really see what sparked this; there could have been physical aggression on behalf of the troublemaker.

OVERWATCH
11-21-2006, 12:02 AM
Its ridiculous when people complain about tasers. Seventy years ago they would have had to fire live rounds to disperse mobs. Twenty years ago it would have been rubber bullets, which can be lethal.

These tasers allow you malcontents/outcasts/extremists to harass our society repeatedly rather than just once. You should thank us for how humane we are using these things.

Who are the political ones who typically form mobs, riot and need less-than-lethal responses directed at them? Certainly not the racists, patriots, and right-wing extremists; generally it is mobs of so-called 'anti-racists', black-bloc or those whose skin is of a dusky hue.

OVERWATCH
11-21-2006, 12:08 AM
Some cops think they are all bad ass when they have the uniform on and everyone better show them the proper respect or else. A lot of those kind of people are naturally going to be drawn to that kind of career. There are also people out there who think laws don't apply to them and they can act in whatever way they want, while displaying a smart-ass attitude, which feeds into the cops who are control freaks. I am seeing hints of a little of both here.

Right, but most cops that I have known were pretty decent folks.

I have had a loaded .357 magnum pointed right between my eyes, by a cop, the last thing that I thought of was 'how can I resist arrest?'... it wouldn't be any different if he had a taser. I comply because I am a civilised person and I won't allow a cop who might potentially be a sadist or jumpy to indulge himself; it's just common sense, good behaviour, and self-preservation.

Leshrac
11-21-2006, 12:41 AM
These tasers allow you malcontents/outcasts/extremists to harass our society repeatedly rather than just once. You should thank us for how humane we are using these things.

Doesn't that make you an extremist to not agree with the government ?

"Your society" ?

Your post make no sense at all.

I have had a loaded .357 magnum pointed right between my eyes, by a cop, the last thing that I thought of was 'how can I resist arrest?'

If you are trained/fast enough:

- Left arm parry
- Pull gun
- Blast him
- "he tried to kill me i swear!"

:D

Northern_Paladin
11-21-2006, 02:40 AM
I think the kid got what he deserved. Seems like he thought resisting arrest was the honorable thing to do. It looked like he was trying to show off his pain tolerance.:D

Carlos Danger
11-21-2006, 08:07 PM
http://stoptheaclu.com/archives/2006/11/20/aclu-says-ucla-taser-cops-are-guilty-of-illegal-assault-on-bystanders/

Update: I may be eating my words soon. I still stand by my original calling to hear all sides before jumping to conclusions. However, the UCLA officer has a history.

He’s been the subject of excessive-force complaints before, including once in 2003 when he shot a homeless man during a struggle in one of the dorms and again in 1990 when UCLA fired him for having allegedly choked a student with his nightstick.

I knew it wouldn’t take long for the ACLU to chime in on this one.

Daily Bruin

“It is a real mistake to treat a Taser as some benign thing that painlessly brings people under control,” said Peter Eliasberg, managing attorney at the ACLU of Southern California.

“The Taser can be incredibly violent and result in death,” Eliasberg said.

According to an ACLU report, 148 people in the United States and Canada have died as a result of the use of Tasers since 1999.

During the altercation between Tabatabainejad and the officers, bystanders can be heard in the video repeatedly asking the officers to stop and requesting their names and identification numbers. The video showed one officer responding to a student by threatening that the student would “get Tased too.” At this point, the officer was still holding a Taser.

Such a threat of the use of force by a law enforcement officer in response to a request for a badge number is an “illegal assault,” Eliasberg said.

“It is absolutely illegal to threaten anyone who asks for a badge [number],” that’s assault,” he said.

Many bloggers out there think the campus cops did overreact. I’m still under the impression that the kid in question was the one that overreacted. The entire thing could have been avoided if the kid would have cooperated. The main question comes to whether or not the cop’s were excessive in controlling the situation. I’m in the minority in thinking they were not. Maybe I am wrong, but I think the ACLU claiming that a verbal threat is equivalant to an assault is a bit of an overstatement. I wouldn’t doubt that this entire episode was provoked on purpose in order to create a political controversy. The civil libertarians will milk it for all its worth.

antibuddha
11-21-2006, 09:03 PM
The civil libertarians will milk it for all its worth.

Welcome to politics. They will milk it for all its worth, just as authoritarians will attempt to use it to lash out against liberal college kids as "disorderly and/or degenerate" and romanticize police as "good men doing a tough job" or some such thing. This is what happens when you live in a society where every issue becomes a symbolic one used to act out personal dramas by some and to be manipulated by cynical powerseekers by others, heh.

Holly
11-21-2006, 09:13 PM
I feel no sympathy for the sand nig, he acted like a spoiled littel brat and claimed he would not have to submit to any law so he got what he deserved.
I do not agree with the shock after he was in the handcuffs though, at this point he could not be claimed to be a threat so they had no reason to keep doing it. The "cops" look chinese und black so I am not so sure about his "racial profile" lawsuit, it seems to me these campus cops must get bored and fell they have to act like what they think are real cops every once in a while.

OVERWATCH
11-21-2006, 11:41 PM
The ACLU should be Tased, to the last (wo)man.

Carlos Danger
11-22-2006, 04:50 AM
Note the guy's name is Mostafa Tabatabainejad :rofl:

Straight Satan
11-22-2006, 06:51 AM
"We"? You're not a cop.


You should thank us for how humane we are using these things.

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
11-22-2006, 06:58 AM
The "cops" look chinese und black so I am not so sure about his "racial profile" lawsuit
You are implying that only whites are capable of discriminating against others. That is what the liberals want you think. The truth is other races can be "racist" just as much.

Straight Satan
11-22-2006, 07:11 AM
Bridegroom of Hate responds:

Sorry folks, you can't just "tase" someone because he's acting up.

Yeah anyway this cop in question is a Nigger who failed probation on Long Beach PD because he couldn't write reports...so what the FUCK is UCLA doing hiring him? Answer: he's a "person of color" and they'll be happy to take someone from a "real" department. Why did LB hire him?

This is another clear-cut example of affirmative action at work; I've seen it before. Just a chocolate-colored coon who got hisself a civil service job, mm hmmm aaallright.

What makes you think that niggers are any less impulsive and violent once they're cops?

I bet anything that that spade uses his job to hit on white girls.