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11-23-2006, 04:56 PM
Sweden Democrats: pay immigrants to leave
Published: 23rd November 2006 17:13 CET

Immigrants should be paid to leave Sweden. That's according to new proposals from Sweden Democrat members of Malmö City Council. But Social Democrats say the proposal would be divisive.

The party has proposed a range of policies to clamp down on immigrants in the Skåne region, including a total ban on immigration and to stop publicly funded integration programmes.



"Nobody would be forced to leave," Sten Andersson, leader of the Sweden Democrats on Malmö Council, told The Local.

The party, the fourth largest in Malmö politics, made the proposal in a submission to amend the council's budget.

"This would only apply to asylum seekers, not for instance to Danes who have been here for thirty years," he said.

Projects have previously existed through which immigrants who wanted to return to their countries of origin could get 30,000 kronor from the government to help them.

"Thirty thousand is not enough," said Andersson, "but we haven't put a precise figure on how these grants would be."

Andersson also wants to stop government grants for immigrant groups.

"We think that those who come to Sweden should be able to build whatever kind of Mosque they want, but they should pay for it themselves."

Other parties on the council have rejected the idea of paying immigrants to leave.

"A policy that creates a 'them' and an 'us' is nothing for us," said Daniel Persson, chief of staff for the ruling Social Democrats on Malmö Council.

"This is not a surprise coming from the Sweden Democrats. They have put forward these kinds of proposals before, but they have never got this kind of attention until now.

"There is unfortunately a breeding ground for political forces that do not suport integration and for all people's equal worth. Fortunately there is a large majority on the council that supports a completely different kind of policy."


James Savage

http://www.thelocal.se/5595/20061123/

Kodos
11-23-2006, 06:00 PM
Lets do it here...

Can you pay them in newports and malt liquor (the blacks and non religious muslim blacks). The beaners in tacos... the muslims will have to gather just off an artillery range to recieve payment... yeah thats the ticket.

Björn
11-23-2006, 06:08 PM
First the socialists lose the socialists lose grip of Sweden and now this. It's good to see some good news for once.

Arminius
11-23-2006, 06:16 PM
Why should they be paid? Then people will come over simply to get money. It is rewarding invaders with your hard-earned money. It is too lenient on them. What happed to the once great Svearike? How the great kingdoms of the past fall before liberalism and degeneracy.

delete
11-23-2006, 07:05 PM
In Norway we already pay them to go home, but most of them do not want to go, or comes back after they have used all their money. (We don't pay them to go home, we help them go home in newspeach)

We have just had a story with Kurds that got money to go back, and then bought luxury cars on credit and left. THEY ARE NOW RETURNING, saying they are going to pay back the money for the cars.

It is not decided if they will be able to stay in Norway or not, but as we are a country of laws, the law decides.

I hope they can stay, as this means the law will change as no government can survive that in the next election. According to polls the largest party is the crypto-racist anti-establishment one, so establishment is already getting punished.

We should pay them to go home, and Norway has the money.

The Norwegian Oil fund.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000085&sid=ahaGBhWZadG0&refer=europe

Ambrosio Spinola
11-24-2006, 04:23 AM
Typical european...trying to bride themselves out of this to avoid an un-pc spectacle. The truth is that such offers only make inmigration stronger.

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
11-24-2006, 04:26 AM
Economic incentives may be a smart way to help reverse massive immigration. That way they will stop undercutting native workers like carpetbaggers, lol.

Ambrosio Spinola
11-24-2006, 05:02 AM
Its bad enough that people in Africa and elsewhere believe in europe everything is possible and riches are asured so that now we inform them that any successful trip to the EU will get rewarded nicely in cash in the worse case scenario you do not like it there.

MrRS
11-24-2006, 05:12 AM
Its bad enough that people in Africa and elsewhere believe in europe everything is possible and riches are asured so that now we inform them that any successful trip to the EU will get rewarded nicely in cash in the worse case scenario you do not like it there.
Quite right, the financial incentives will only work once the door is closed to all new immigrants. Both policies need to be implemented as one without the other is just waste of effort, time and cash.

koch curve
11-24-2006, 05:21 AM
lol another example of forward socialist thinking by the scandanavians

delete
11-24-2006, 11:11 AM
lol another example of forward socialist thinking by the scandanavians

You don't understand. When everyting is tried, and found to fail, we are left with radical options only.

This way the whole population will be behind you, when you go radical.

koch curve
11-24-2006, 11:28 AM
You don't understand. When everyting is tried, and found to fail, we are left with radical options only.

This way the whole population will be behind you, when you go radical.

maybe im missing something due to the language barrier but theres nothing especially radical about this plan aside from its idiocy

delete
11-24-2006, 12:23 PM
maybe im missing something due to the language barrier but theres nothing especially radical about this plan aside from its idiocy

It is not radical , but given the current mentality of the Scandinavian people, it need to be tried, just to watch it fail.

First everything needs to be tried, first then, and only then will the population go radical.

Heimdall
11-24-2006, 01:53 PM
Doomed to failure, largely because it doesn't sound like it's going to stop anyone from heading into Sweden. It's probably too late for Sweden anyway and unlike Germans, who've adopted a national self-loathing, Swedes have a national-indifference to their fates.

MrAngry
11-24-2006, 02:30 PM
Why should they be paid? Then people will come over simply to get money. It is rewarding invaders with your hard-earned money. It is too lenient on them. What happed to the once great Svearike? How the great kingdoms of the past fall before liberalism and degeneracy.


I agree with this bit, the rest is rhetoric....

Starr
11-24-2006, 06:30 PM
I can't see many choosing to take a one time chunk of money and returning to their third world sewers when they could choose instead to stay in a first world country and be taken care of with welfare benefits and free health care, for themselves and their 50,000 kids, for life.
If they are going to be given money(which they do not deserve, anyway)it also has to come with a halt on immigration and a cut off of all benefits. They have to be made not to want to be there. That is the only thing that has a chance of getting rid of them.
In my opinion, of course, however, they should not be given a choice at all. I could support some kind of compensation for blacks in the U.S. that would also come along with the mandatory establishment of a separate place for them, but immigrants who chose to come to the west? no.

There is unfortunately a breeding ground for political forces that do not suport integration and for all people's equal worth. Fortunately there is a large majority on the council that supports a completely different kind of policy."

So even this is too "extreme" for many people? You have got to be kidding me. though, I am not at all surprised that people are this retarded.

MrAngry
11-24-2006, 06:36 PM
I can't see many choosing to take a one time chunk of money and returning to their third world sewers when they could choose instead to stay in a first world country and be taken care of with welfare benefits and free health care, for themselves and their 50,000 kids, for life.
If they are going to be given money(which they do not deserve, anyway)it also has to come with a halt on immigration and a cut off of all benefits. They have to be made not to want to be there. That is the only thing that has a chance of getting rid of them.
In my opinion, of course, however, they should not be given a choice at all. I could support some kind of compensation for blacks in the U.S. that would also come along with the mandatory establishment of a separate place for them, but immigrants who chose to come to the west? no.


Is that really feasible?

Starr
11-24-2006, 07:37 PM
Is that really feasible?


How feasible would desegregation and all that came along with the civil rights movement have seemed 50-60 years ago? Or that an immigration bill would have been introduced and signed into law that allowed for a preference for non-white third world immigrants? You could go on and on and on and list countless things that did not seem feasible at one time, that are today a reality.

MrAngry
11-24-2006, 07:45 PM
How feasible would desegregation and all that came along with the civil rights movement have seemed 50-60 years ago? Or that an immigration bill would have been introduced and signed into law that allowed for a preference for non-white third world immigrants? You could go on and on and on and list countless things that did not seem feasible at one time, that are today a reality.


Ok, lets just say what you propose becomes a reality,

how would it be paid for?

What happens to property owned by the ethnic groups?

How would people be dealt with if they didnt want to go?

How would people be repatriated, the logistics would be huge?

would you expect civil war?

Starr
11-24-2006, 08:40 PM
[QUOTE=MrAngry]

how would it be paid for?

The government spends tons of money on many unneccessary things, some of those programs and their funds could be cut. Even if it had to fall on the taxpayers, that one time chunk of money would be well worth the money that would be saved in AID that many blacks recieve, sometimes for generations, and also the financial cost to society for a people that have a very high crime rate.

What happens to property owned by the ethnic groups?

It would be bought from them and they would recieve a just compensation.

How would people be dealt with if they didnt want to go?

They would not only feel pressure from whites, but also from their own people which would pull many of them in the right direction all on it's own. The others would be forcibly deported.

this is just off the top of my head. I didn't bother to put a real lot of thought into it. I am sure a much more workable solution could be achieved if both sides sat down together and tried to come up with some kind of agreement.

MrAngry
11-24-2006, 08:50 PM
[QUOTE]

The government spends tons of money on many unneccessary things, some of those programs and their funds could be cut. Even if it had to fall on the taxpayers, that one time chunk of money would be well worth the money that would be saved in AID that many blacks recieve, sometimes for generations, and also the financial cost to society for a people that have a very high crime rate.


Tons of money? I think the cost of repatriation of such a large number of people would cost trillions of trillions. Not possible even for a nation with Americas wealth.


[QUOTE]
It would be bought from them and they would recieve a just compensation.

Even more money, vast areas left empty. Value of propery would decrease due to lack of demand


[QUOTE]They would not only feel pressure from whites, but also from their own people which would pull many of them in the right direction all on it's own. The others would be forcibly deported.

this is just off the top of my head. I didn't bother to put a real lot of thought into it. I am sure a much more workable solution could be achieved if both sides sat down together and tried to come up with some kind of agreement.

If you do give it some thought you will find how unfeasible this really is, why would ethnic groups pressurise their own people to leave? And how would you forcibly remove well armed ethnic factions?
Not only would it cost far too much money to make it practical, it would ultimately cost too many lives.

Unless someone can say otherwise?

Masty
11-24-2006, 11:09 PM
And how would you forcibly remove well armed ethnic factions?Kill them?

:)

If they're armed, they're a target worth shooting.