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11-30-2006, 01:50 PM
HIV outbreak in Norway
The HIV infection rate among men having sex with men continues to rise in 2006, which is set to be a record year for cases among Norwegian homosexual men.
"It takes quite a bit of unsafe sex to have as many infected with HIV (Human Immunodeficiency Virus) as we are seeing now," said Øivind Nilsen, senior adviser at the Norwegian Institute of Public Health (NIPH).

"We see a risk of most of those practicing unsafe sex in the gay community being HIV-infected within a few years if individuals do not take responsibility for the health of themselves and others," Nilsen said.

The situation in Norway mirrors the tendencies in Western Europe and the USA.

"It appears that many in homosexual circles no longer see HIV as very threatening any more, and take the chance of continuing with random and unsafe behavior. Now that we have the illness under better control we clearly need a different type of campaign to influence attitudes," said Charlotte Haug, editor of the Norwegian Medical Association's magazine.

Mature men are being infected, with the average age being 37. Many are infected due to random, casual sex encounters and most give Oslo or a large city abroad as the likely place of infection.

Recent medical advances have dramatically increased the life quality for those infected with HIV, but the treatment is costly, associated with side-effects and includes the risk of the virus becoming resistant to existing medicines.

"The medicines brake the development of the disease. But it is a tough treatment that patients have to carry out every day for the rest of their lives," Haug said.

(Aftenposten English Web Desk/NTB)
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article1552309.ece

Hrolf Kraki
11-30-2006, 01:53 PM
Good thing I didn't have any unprotected sex with men while I was in Oslo. :rofl: :p

Dr. Gutberlet
11-30-2006, 02:10 PM
I am curious as to what Delete says on this subject. Western Europe has been far too permissive in allowing these deviant lifestyles to flourish. I wouldn't expect it anytime soon, but quarantines and education regarding the deviant/decadent homosexual "deathstyle" need to be implemented. An even greater concern is the bisexual trash that introduce these diseases into the hetero population.

delete
11-30-2006, 02:54 PM
I am curious as to what Delete says on this subject. Western Europe has been far too permissive in allowing these deviant lifestyles to flourish. I wouldn't expect it anytime soon, but quarantines and education regarding the deviant/decadent homosexual "deathstyle" need to be implemented. An even greater concern is the bisexual trash that introduce these diseases into the hetero population.

It not ethnic norwegians. Our health director got fired for telling that unprotected sex with Norwegians is almost risk free, while having sex with somebody from Ghana would be like russian roulett. People know this, so most stay away from niggers and sex except from some homosexuals with to much of a sex drive.

The same goes for the alarming inrease in diabetes in parts of the country. Children from Oslo do worse in school. etc It is PC speak gone mad.

Dr. Gutberlet
11-30-2006, 03:04 PM
It not ethnic norwegians. Our health director got fired for telling that unprotected sex with Norwegians is almost risk free, while having sex with somebody from Ghana would be like russian roulett. People know this, so most stay away from niggers and sex except from some homosexuals with to much of a sex drive.

The same goes for the alarming inrease in diabetes in parts of the country. Children from Oslo do worse in school. etc It is PC speak gone mad.

What truly saddnes me is the presence of "people" from Ghana in Scandinavia. Sickening, no other way to describe the psychotic nature of the Multi-Cult.:viking:

delete
11-30-2006, 03:12 PM
What truly saddnes me is the presence of "people" from Ghana in Scandinavia. Sickening, no other way to describe the psychotic nature of the Multi-Cult.:viking:

I agree, but I think it is something we need to go through.

People need to see with their own eyes that niggers are crap and smells bad, and their are starting to see it now.

I did not turn on them until I got to know them as a teacher.

Vasily Zaitsev
11-30-2006, 04:13 PM
Off topic question.

Do you two (delete and Dr. Gutberlet) type to one another in English for the benefit of the rest of us on the forum, because neither of you speaks the other's language, becuase Swedish and Norwegian are too linguistically distant for you to understand one another, or for some other reason?

delete
11-30-2006, 04:30 PM
Just for the benefit of the rest of the phora. Scandinavians always speaks english if somebody doesn't understand their language.

The scandinavian languages are really different dialects, but some word only exist in some of the dialects, and these could be difficult. Similar word used differently can also cause problems when you're not familiar with the dialect in question. You need some exposure before you understand it perfectly, and can understand it at normal speed.

As a rule of thumb, the norwegians are better at understanding swedish and danish than visa versa, for some reason.

Hrolf Kraki
11-30-2006, 04:50 PM
Just for the benefit of the rest of the phora. Scandinavians always speaks english if somebody doesn't understand their language.

The scandinavian languages are really different dialects, but some word only exist in some of the dialects, and these could be difficult. Similar word used differently can also cause problems when you're not familiar with the dialect in question. You need some exposure before you understand it perfectly, and can understand it at normal speed.

As a rule of thumb, the norwegians are better at understanding swedish and danish than visa versa, for some reason.

I have found that Swedish is much easier to learn than is Norwegian.

delete
11-30-2006, 05:13 PM
I have found that Swedish is much easier to learn than is Norwegian.

That could be true. The more phonetic orthography in swedish is easier to understand at first. As to the spoken language, it depend on where in sweden you go. Stockholm (official) is relatively easy. I also think danish and some dialects in Norway are the hardest to pronounce for foreigners.

Dr. Gutberlet
11-30-2006, 05:13 PM
Off topic question.

Do you two (delete and Dr. Gutberlet) type to one another in English for the benefit of the rest of us on the forum, because neither of you speaks the other's language, becuase Swedish and Norwegian are too linguistically distant for you to understand one another, or for some other reason?


Both Bokmål and Nynorsk are odd IMO. I just met an Icelandic girl, and Icelandic is like Egyptian to me. English is truly a universal tongue.

delete
11-30-2006, 05:22 PM
Both Bokmål and Nynorsk are odd IMO. I just met an Icelandic girl, and Icelandic is like Egyptian to me. English is truly a universal tongue.

I have an easier time with Icelandic as the sounds are similar to some of the western dialects (nynorsk) in Norway. If they speak slowly I understand most of it.

If you continue with this girl, you will pick it up quite easily.

The Icelandics learn a scandinavian language of choice, but if they choose danish it sounds like Norwegian anyway.

Sudaev
12-02-2006, 02:14 AM
I've seen a number of Scandinavians (mostly Norwegians) who speak English perfectly and with an American accent, so perfectly that I can't tell they're from another country.

There is a distant connection there, between old English and whatever was spoken by Vikings eons ago.

delete
12-03-2006, 12:59 PM
The sounds in english is mainly a subset of the sounds in at lest Norwegian and to a lesser degree Swedish. Same is true of russian, german, french and spanish.

Norwegian (and swedish and danish) has a pitch accent meaning bønner (beans), bønder (farmers) and bønner (prayers) are only separated by pitch, but the sounds are the same.
If you don't learn to separate pitch accents as a child, it is difficult to learn or recogognize as an adult. I think it has to do with the programming of the brain, removing everything you don't need from the counscious mind.

Every language contains som form of pitch, but as the meaning of words are not separated by it, people don't notice that it is there.
Different dialects in the whole of scandinavia has different pich on the same word, and you can often recognize the origin of a person by pich alone.

Pronounciation of combinations of sounds are depentend of both the sound that comes before and the one that comes after, and this is roughly what we call pitch or to 'put pressure on certain syllables' or word melody in lay speak.

One example of this would be the "R"'s in 'roger, bugger, smart' that is not only pronounced different in each dialect, but is also different in the different dialects of English.

If you can notice the differences and reproduce them, you can by practice learn it perfectly.
I personally couldn't be bothered, as I don't mind if people laugh a bit, and regognize I am a norwegian. I do hear the mistakes I make most of the time though.

To Bridegroom of Hate
As to the American accent, a lot also apes the dialects english witch is spoken at the moment, and the one who spoke american english was probably just aping you. Give them a coulpe of week is scotland and the dialect would be scottish.

A funny example of this, would be a friend of mine who were fucking a black african girl for a while, which resulted that his english detoriated into her nigger dialect while this contiued, as is it colored by the dialect you speak the most.