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Kodos
12-12-2006, 02:07 AM
I'm a neophyte at installing hardware myself, in the past I haven't had enough money that I'd be able to recover if I wrecked everything.

My new Videocard comes in (Radeon ATI X1900 GT) and its PCI express, it turns out that is diffrent from PCI.

Am I pwn3d or is there an adapter where I won't horrendously lose capability?

Professor John Frink
12-12-2006, 02:10 AM
I'm a neophyte at installing hardware myself, in the past I haven't had enough money that I'd be able to recover if I wrecked everything.

My new Videocard comes in (Radeon ATI X1900 GT) and its PCI express, it turns out that is diffrent from PCI.

Am I pwn3d or is there an adapter where I won't horrendously lose capability?
You're pwned big time.

Which motherboard to you have?

Keystone
12-12-2006, 02:11 AM
I'm a neophyte at installing hardware myself, in the past I haven't had enough money that I'd be able to recover if I wrecked everything.

My new Videocard comes in (Radeon ATI X1900 GT) and its PCI express, it turns out that is diffrent from PCI.

Am I pwn3d or is there an adapter where I won't horrendously lose capability?
I just upgraded to a Geforce 256MB video card last week. It fit like a glove in one of my spare PCI slots.
What's a PCI "express"?

Helios Panoptes
12-12-2006, 02:14 AM
I'm a neophyte at installing hardware myself, in the past I haven't had enough money that I'd be able to recover if I wrecked everything.

My new Videocard comes in (Radeon ATI X1900 GT) and its PCI express, it turns out that is diffrent from PCI.

Am I pwn3d or is there an adapter where I won't horrendously lose capability?

You are pwn3d.

Someone gave me a PCI E card for a computer that was not compatible, but I was getting a new one, anyway.

Kodos
12-12-2006, 02:15 AM
I just upgraded to a Geforce 256MB video card last week. It fit like a glove in one of my spare PCI slots.
What's a PCI "express"?

Something thats not going to fit in the PCI slots... GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

Professor John Frink
12-12-2006, 02:17 AM
I just upgraded to a Geforce 256MB video card last week. It fit like a glove in one of my spare PCI slots.

Must have been a PCI-Express then.

What's a PCI "express"?
Two standards that are actually worlds apart.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:PCIExpress.jpg

Keystone
12-12-2006, 02:23 AM
Must have been a PCI-Express then.
Well it works better than Otto's, then. Improved my refresh rates and 3D by miles. I had a Dell factory 64MB card before that.

Keystone
12-12-2006, 02:31 AM
Where did you get this video card, Otto?

Kodos
12-12-2006, 02:40 AM
The problem is not the videocard, the problem is my motherboard is a 2.5 year old dinosaur without a pci express slot.

I got it from Ewiz.com (objective of being able to play MTW II and NWN II). I already have a non onboard video card which I just put back in... but I need a pimped out direct x 9.0c compatible one.

If I had a super computer (which I don't hence why I can't put in said videocard) I could run those games in an emulator but alas.

Professor John Frink
12-12-2006, 02:43 AM
Kay, so it's probably an AGP slot.

Which CPU socket does the mobo have?

Keystone
12-12-2006, 02:46 AM
The problem is not the videocard, the problem is my motherboard is a 2.5 year old dinosaur without a pci express slot.
Mine's a 4 year old Dell machine without a PCI "express" slot. The card I installed supports DirectX 9.0

Geforce 5200

Carlos Danger
12-12-2006, 02:47 AM
I think the GeForce 7800 is the best AGP card still available

Kodos
12-12-2006, 02:47 AM
Since I got the comp as a gift( and have moved 3 times with it) im lacking on mobo documentation. When I put it back up I'll dl a mobo analyzer program.

Its a vaio about 2.5 years old. It doesn't really matter as you can't upgrade the mobo directly (not economically compared to other options) and im sure even if some PCI-eX16 to PCI or AGP adaptor exists (which I don't know)... it would almost certainly cause some loss of functionality.

Will have to buy new fucking computer.

Carlos Danger
12-12-2006, 02:49 AM
If you want to play 5 year-old games a cheapo 6200 will probably serve

Keystone
12-12-2006, 02:51 AM
If you want to play 5 year-old games a cheapo 6200 will probably serve
Oi.
I just play AOE and want Windows Vista to work properly when I upgrade.

Professor John Frink
12-12-2006, 02:51 AM
Since I got the comp as a gift( and have moved 3 times with it) im lacking on mobo documentation. When I put it back up I'll dl a mobo analyzer program.

Its a vaio about 2.5 years old. It doesn't really matter as you can't upgrade the mobo directly (not economically compared to other options) and im sure even if some PCI-eX16 to PCI or AGP adaptor exists (which I don't know)... it would almost certainly cause some loss of functionality.

Will have to buy new fucking computer.

Adapters exist, but they slow the system down. You need to buy a new mobo that is compatible with all your existing components or a new comp.

Carlos Danger
12-12-2006, 03:00 AM
Adapters exist, but they slow the system down. You need to buy a new mobo that is compatible with all your existing components or a new comp.
I don't advise mobo replacement unless you really know what you're doing

Kodos: sell the PCI-E card and buy a top-rank AGP instead

OVERWATCH
12-12-2006, 03:02 AM
Just return the card wherever you bought it, and get another one, (an AGP, provided your mobo has an AGP slot)

Kodos
12-12-2006, 03:04 AM
I don't advise mobo replacement unless you really know what you're doing

Kodos: sell the PCI-E card and buy a top-rank AGP instead

Im thinking more along the lines of getting a new comp...

OVERWATCH
12-12-2006, 03:08 AM
Im thinking more along the lines of getting a new comp...
Available technology hasn't advanced far enough to realise the full potential of the PCI-E interface, AGP 8x is fast enough as things stand now, if you were thinking of building a PC around your new card, that would be unadvisable at this point in time, imho.

Kodos
12-12-2006, 03:10 AM
Im gonna need one anyway soon, and the x1900 should be good for at least two years.

Professor John Frink
12-12-2006, 09:25 AM
and the x1900 should be good for at least two years.

Probably not, because it isn't DirectX10 compatible. Then again, you can always upgrade later.