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Thomas777
12-12-2006, 06:36 PM
"Wild Bill" Hoff is dead, under what appears to be semi-humorous circumstances.

http://www.nsm88.com/press/hoff.html

Jimbo Gomez
12-12-2006, 06:42 PM
Look at that buffoon in his uniform. A clown will have it easier to be taken serious than this guy. Those dress up games are even more pathetic when old people participate in them.

Hermetic
12-12-2006, 06:56 PM
Thought you where talking about the pope and catholic church there for a second.

Look at that buffoon in his uniform. A clown will have it easier to be taken serious than this guy. Those dress up games are even more pathetic when old people participate in them.

Jimbo Gomez
12-12-2006, 06:58 PM
Unlike this guy here, the Pope is taken quite serious across the globe Vindex.

Carlos Danger
12-12-2006, 07:01 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Hoff

:confused:

Arminius
12-12-2006, 07:02 PM
I am sorry to tell them that he is not in Walhall, he is probably in Naströnd. ;)
(Kidding)
Well, he is in Hel anyhow. :)
Honor to the glorious dead.

Hermetic
12-12-2006, 07:05 PM
That does not reflect very well on the people who take him seriously then.
Unlike this guy here, the Pope is taken quite serious across the globe Vindex.

Totenkopf
12-12-2006, 07:39 PM
"Wild Bill" Hoff is dead, under what appears to be semi-humorous circumstances.

http://www.nsm88.com/press/hoff.html

Omg, Americans even make National Socialism look like a fucking joke.

Jimbo Gomez
12-12-2006, 07:41 PM
Omg, Americans even make National Socialism look like a fucking joke.


Yes, something so easy that even those dumb fuck yankees can do it, isn't it comrade?

Arminius
12-12-2006, 07:46 PM
See you in Valhalla Wild Bill. 88!

Truely though, it is a joke that they would think he gets into Walhall by getting hit by a truck... I couldn't care less about his silly uniform.

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
12-12-2006, 07:52 PM
I find nsm to be very entertaining...and I'll leave it at that.

bardamu
12-12-2006, 08:18 PM
Truely though, it is a joke that they would think he gets into Walhall by getting hit by a truck... I couldn't care less about his silly uniform.

Don't know much about it but probably Wild Bill goes to Valhalla for a lifetime of nationalist activism, rather than the truck accident.

Arminius
12-12-2006, 08:44 PM
Don't know much about it but probably Wild Bill goes to Valhalla for a lifetime of nationalist activism, rather than the truck accident.

You are chosen by the way you died, not how you lived. Only the chosen of those which die in battle go there. So not only do you have to die in combat, but you have to be chosen; it is very exclusive for a reason. Besides the lifestyle of Walhall would hardly fit an old man.

Hermetic
12-12-2006, 09:14 PM
Valhalla stems form alchemy, all the outer is symbolic for alchemy.

bardamu
12-12-2006, 09:46 PM
You are chosen by the way you died, not how you lived. Only the chosen of those which die in battle go there. So not only do you have to die in combat, but you have to be chosen; it is very exclusive for a reason. Besides the lifestyle of Walhall would hardly fit an old man.

That may be the way you look at it, but I have never heard anyone have a problem with the thought that William Pierce resides in Valhalla, even though he died an old man in bed of cancer.

WFHermans
12-12-2006, 09:51 PM
Just added some kike-alikes to my ignore list who think it's funny if an old warrior dies in a traffic accident.

Heil Bill Hoff!

Arminius
12-12-2006, 09:54 PM
That may be the way you look at it, but I have never heard anyone have a problem with the thought that William Pierce resides in Valhalla, even though he died an old man in bed of cancer.

Whom are you asking? People who think he is a great man and admire his work or people who study ancient heathen texts in their spare time? Believing he resides there because it is a good thought to have and believing it because it is consistant with the ancient beliefs are totally different things.

If you weren't chosen amongst the slain in battle, you went to Hel - and that isn't a bad thing or dishonorable. Naströnd would be a dishonor. :)

Arminius
12-12-2006, 10:00 PM
Also you must note, that even if he died in battle at his age, I don't think he'd be chosen. All evidence points to the Gods wanting the strongest and best warriors. Those warriors would practice fighting and slay each other over and over. They trained for Ragnarök. The Gods wanted the best possible odds against the Giants. How fitting would it be then to have an Army of Old Men?

OVERWATCH
12-12-2006, 11:12 PM
Look at that buffoon in his uniform. A clown will have it easier to be taken serious than this guy. Those dress up games are even more pathetic when old people participate in them.
I refuse to poke fun at a man's death like this. Shameful. Even though I find the NSM to be a circus sideshow.

A fellow that I have known for a long time fell off a roof and died today. He wasn't the greatest guy either, but one must at least show a bit of respect. Jeez. Thumbs down!

albion
12-13-2006, 12:11 AM
http://www.nsm88.com/photos/sc2005/sc1.jpg
http://www.nsm88.com/photos/raleigh_2004/wj4.jpg
http://www.nsm88.com/photos/congress04/hoff.jpg 88 http://www.nsm88.com/photos/kansas/public%20relations%20director.jpg

Dances with Wolves
12-13-2006, 12:16 AM
I refuse to poke fun at a man's death like this. Shameful. Even though I find the NSM to be a circus sideshow.

A fellow that I have known for a long time fell off a roof and died today. He wasn't the greatest guy either, but one must at least show a bit of respect. Jeez. Thumbs down!

I agree. Wild Bill was a fighter. Unfortunately, he chose to align himself with the NSM, a known jewish front for donations and oppressive jewish laws. I hope he didn't suffer. RIP, Bill.

bardamu
12-13-2006, 12:20 AM
Also you must note, that even if he died in battle at his age, I don't think he'd be chosen. All evidence points to the Gods wanting the strongest and best warriors. Those warriors would practice fighting and slay each other over and over. They trained for Ragnarök. The Gods wanted the best possible odds against the Giants. How fitting would it be then to have an Army of Old Men?

The problem here is that times change and war changes with it. Contemporary war is often fought in a lab, or at a keyboard, things that were not in existence during the archaic period you are referring to. Do the gods not want the help of scientists and philosopher/propagandists at Ragnarok?

Fade the Butcher
12-13-2006, 12:22 AM
I refuse to poke fun at a man's death like this. Shameful. Even though I find the NSM to be a circus sideshow.

I second that.

Daniel Shays
12-13-2006, 12:23 AM
Hoff strikes me as the type who would stage his death and sitback to see who would take his place - then swoop in and purge them.

Starr
12-13-2006, 12:26 AM
I agree. Wild Bill was a fighter. Unfortunately, he chose to align himself with the NSM, a known jewish front for donations and oppressive jewish laws. I hope he didn't suffer. RIP, Bill.


Where are you getting this information?

Originally Posted by DEVS SOL INVICTVS
I refuse to poke fun at a man's death like this. Shameful. Even though I find the NSM to be a circus sideshow.

I will agree with this also.

bardamu
12-13-2006, 12:27 AM
Ragnarök is now.

il ragno
12-13-2006, 01:26 AM
I feel bad that an old man got run down like that. At least it was over quick for him.

That said, if you're 70 years old and still dressing up like Hitler in public, don't look to me to mythologize you. If Dershowitz makes it to 90 and drops dead while spooning his prunes, will his advanced age make him suddenly worthy of fawning testimonials and myopic remembrances of what a swell guy he was - or will he be as much a snake as he is today?

In a way, the ones who go late in life are worse: they not only get away with it and enjoy the spoils of getting away with it, they get to segue into Elder Statesman status and get the kind of awww pass that really old people always get...the one that retroactively absolves them for all their past depredations.

Not that this has anything to do with Hoff, who I don't know a damn thing about.

Helios Panoptes
12-13-2006, 01:28 AM
The problem here is that times change and war changes with it. Contemporary war is often fought in a lab, or at a keyboard, things that were not in existence during the archaic period you are referring to. Do the gods not want the help of scientists and philosopher/propagandists at Ragnarok?

He was killed in an accident. It had nothing to do with war of any kind at all, intellectual or otherwise.

ActionAlert
12-13-2006, 01:55 AM
Yeah, folks, leave the gleefull hora dancing at this man's death to the guys at the One Primates Project (which, I see they have already posted a gleefull message about it). http://www.onepeoplesproject.com/

I await making a gleefull pronouncement when Daryle Lamont Jigaboo finally succumbs from his many blood borne pathogens. Oh Happy Day!

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
12-13-2006, 01:58 AM
If I hated the guy, I'd be glad he's dead. I don't consider nsm to be a threat to my goals and achievements, I don't hate the guy, so I'm not glad he's dead.

Thomas777
12-13-2006, 02:09 AM
I'm not happy that "Wild Bill" Hoff is dead. I posted the link (replete with pagan eulogy in honor of the man) because I thought it was yet another bizarro chapter in the saga of NSM.

If it makes you people feel any better, you can make fun of me when I take a dirt nap and I'll understand.

Starr
12-13-2006, 02:17 AM
I await making a gleefull pronouncement when Daryle Lamont Jigaboo finally succumbs from his many blood borne pathogens. Oh Happy Day!


and these same kind of people who are doing a happy dance about this guy's death would be morally outraged by your insensitivity. Got to love the hypocrite.:whip:

Ahknaton
12-13-2006, 02:25 AM
R. I. P. Bill Hoff.

Dances with Wolves
12-13-2006, 02:50 AM
Where are you getting this information?



I will agree with this also.

What else would an outfit of rapists, child molesters and Satanists be, Starry?

Kriger
12-13-2006, 03:03 AM
Also you must note, that even if he died in battle at his age, I don't think he'd be chosen. All evidence points to the Gods wanting the strongest and best warriors. Those warriors would practice fighting and slay each other over and over. They trained for Ragnarök. The Gods wanted the best possible odds against the Giants. How fitting would it be then to have an Army of Old Men?

It's become quite the fashion to use the concept of Valhalla as some type of "Aryan" heaven to go to. The real meaning gets lost in it's cultish allure.
I've seen this alot among those who do not bother to understand it's true meaning.

At any rate, wherever Wild Bill went to, it is in accordance with whatever deeds he did in life, and not dependent upon the judgement of men.

May he be in peace.

Der Sozialist
12-13-2006, 03:21 AM
I am actually appalled that not only certain posters think Valhalla actually exists but that wild Billy will drink mead in Odin’s hall.

I guess I shouldn’t be surprised due to the prevalence of Christianity—but still. This brings me to another point:

May he be in peace.

What does this mean exactly—the guy is dead and thus in 'peace'.

Arminius
12-13-2006, 03:51 AM
The problem here is that times change and war changes with it. Contemporary war is often fought in a lab, or at a keyboard, things that were not in existence during the archaic period you are referring to.

Your ignoring the point, it is physical combat and battle. A criminal killed in the "War on Drugs" doesn't get in either. He'd be sent to Naströnd. Just because we use a label of "War" doesn't mean it counts.

Do the gods not want the help of scientists and philosopher/propagandists at Ragnarok?

No, they don't. They have no need for them. They couldn't compare to the physically strong Einherjar who are actually training for battle. Further argument is silly. Read about it yourself.

It's become quite the fashion to use the concept of Valhalla as some type of "Aryan" heaven to go to. The real meaning gets lost in it's cultish allure.
I've seen this alot among those who do not bother to understand it's true meaning.

True, however when they do that, it is actually insulting to the people who earned that honor and to our ancestors, some of whom may be in Walhall. It's not about believing in or fighting for something, and then you get a pass that says you can enter. Only a chosen few go there, for a good reason. Don't feel bad, I most likely wont get in either. That's just how it is.

I am actually appalled that not only certain posters think Valhalla actually exists but that [...]
I guess I shouldn’t be surprised due to the prevalence of Christianity—but still.

Yeah, but the old ways are better and we don't want people to be converted or to force our ways on others - that goes against the very spirit of them.

Kriger
12-13-2006, 04:17 AM
I am actually appalled that not only certain posters think Valhalla actually exists but that wild Billy will drink mead in Odin’s hall.

I guess I shouldn’t be surprised due to the prevalence of Christianity—but still. This brings me to another point:



What does this mean exactly—the guy is dead and thus in 'peace'.

Nothing that you would be able to understand, and I am not into arguing with you about it.

You have your beliefs, I have mine.

Przemysław
12-13-2006, 04:19 AM
"Wild Bill" Hoff is dead, under what appears to be semi-humorous circumstances.

http://www.nsm88.com/press/hoff.html
That entire organization is a joke. They bring shame on national socialism...I hope all of them get hit by a truck.

OVERWATCH
12-13-2006, 04:20 AM
If there is any continuation of consciousness after the death of the physical body, I assert that it is transcendental and far beyond our limited capacity to understand.

Der Sozialist
12-13-2006, 04:35 AM
If there is any continuation of consciousness after the death of the physical body, I assert that it is transcendental and far beyond our limited capacity to understand.

If consciousness continues after death, completely impervious to the death of the physical body, then it would only make sense that it existed before the creation of the physical body.

In that sense, it is timeless and thus in 'peace'.

OVERWATCH
12-13-2006, 05:06 AM
If consciousness continues after death, completely impervious to the death of the physical body, then it would only make sense that it existed before the creation of the physical body.

In that sense, it is timeless and thus in 'peace'.

I agree :dance2:

Jimbo Gomez
12-13-2006, 08:39 AM
For all Americans who were so quick and eager to jump on my previous statement and condemn it:

All of you know very well that for every one of those dress up clowns who dies, intelligent nationalism in your country will be a bit better off.

This man was damaging your nation and now he's gone. That's a net gain. Especially you Fade, with your eugenics crap, should come down from your moral high horse, a bad influence has been removed from society.

Think about the meaning of the word hypocrisy the next time you guys start bitching about those idiot costume fetishists again.

Kodos
12-13-2006, 08:57 AM
For all Americans who were so quick and eager to jump on my previous statement and condemn it:

All of you know very well that for every one of those dress up clowns who dies, intelligent nationalism in your country will be a bit better off.

This man was damaging your nation and now he's gone. That's a net gain. Especially you Fade, with your eugenics crap, should come down from your moral high horse, a bad influence has been removed from society.

Think about the meaning of the word hypocrisy the next time you guys start bitching about those idiot costume fetishists again.

I agree... though it looked like nature would have assasinated him for us soon.

Der Sozialist
12-13-2006, 03:00 PM
This man was damaging your nation and now he's gone. That's a net gain. Especially you Fade, with your eugenics crap, should come down from your moral high horse, a bad influence has been removed from society.



No one takes the NSM seriously—hell, hardly anyone knows that they exist let alone who billy hoff is. They are a non-entity—they are only talked about in the circle of anti-racists and WNs both of which compromise a tiny fraction of the American public. Neither his death nor his presence ever influenced anything.

That being said—Billy Hoff’s death is about as sentimental to me as some drug-induced Crips gang member biting a bullet from the LAPD. That is, I could care less.

Kriger
12-13-2006, 03:52 PM
Well, neither his death nor the NSM is worth fighting about.

Arminius
12-13-2006, 06:14 PM
If there is any continuation of consciousness after the death of the physical body, I assert that it is transcendental and far beyond our limited capacity to understand.

That being different from ancient beliefs... if this guys is in Walhall, he'd be there physically as well as spiritually (no dichotomy).

Jimbo Gomez
12-13-2006, 06:17 PM
That being different from ancient beliefs... if this guys is in Walhall, he'd be there physically as well as spiritually (no dichotomy).


So if the vikings found his body later on for them that was proof that he didn't go to Valhalla?

Arminius
12-13-2006, 06:32 PM
So if the vikings found his body later on for them that was proof that he didn't go to Valhalla?

If they weren't escorted by the Walküren, they didn't go. I suppose it's possible that the body stays behind and you get a new one at Walhall in Asgard. I wouldn't know what those individuals personally believed.

Kriger
12-14-2006, 02:32 AM
The Sagas of the Kings provide us with some insight into this. It being a collection of numerous Viking skalds and their oral renditions.

When Odin came from the Far East lands of Asaheim to settle the North, he established the laws of Asgaard there.

One of these being that upon death, all men should be cremated, their most treasured belongings laid with them upon the pile. The remaining ashes should be either cast upon the sea or buried in the Earth.

In this manner, all would journey to Valhalla with his most treasured items with him.

For men who lived a particularly brave and noble life, he instructed that a mound be raised to their memory. For all other warriors who had distinguished themselves beyond the norm in battle, a standing stone should be erected in honor of their deeds.

Odin himself was cremated upon his death, as were the other gods and goddesses.

Draco
12-14-2006, 03:57 AM
The tragedy is ole' Glenn wasn't swilling moonshine in the passenger seat.

Let's see how much negative or positive rep this gets me....yeah, I'm kind of kidding, but, lets throw it out there. I can't be the only person to have thought it.