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MrAngry
12-15-2006, 08:43 PM
Heres a peice on a great new game! How many of you approve of this I wonder?



http://www.adl.org/videogames/default.asp[LIST=1]

Lily
12-15-2006, 08:46 PM
It's not new, it's old and I find it disgusting.

Dr. Gutberlet
12-15-2006, 08:46 PM
Does it offend your liberal sensitivities? I'm sure there's a "Billy Has 2 Mommies" game out there for you to play.

MrAngry
12-15-2006, 08:49 PM
Does it offend your liberal sensitivities? I'm sure there's a "Billy Has 2 Mommies" game out there for you to play.


Yes it does actually, preaching racism is abhorent at the best of times, making a game based on it is just plain disgusting. I wonder where you sense decency liesin relationship to this peddling of hate to youngsters.

हिन्दुस्तान
12-15-2006, 08:54 PM
Heres a peice on a great new game! How many of you approve of this I wonder?



http://www.adl.org/videogames/default.asp[LIST=1]

I couldn't give less of a shit even if I tried.

Why do you concern yourself with such trivial matters?

Its only a video game.

MrAngry
12-15-2006, 08:58 PM
I couldn't give less of a shit even if I tried.

Why do you concern yourself with such trivial matters?

Its only a video game.

Only a video game, I was curious to see it the phora pals act would kick in, you'd be fine eeing one of your young family members playing this wholesome game. I suppose a game about a black man marrying a white girl and knocking out mixed kid would be worse for some on here?

Heavens to Betsy
12-15-2006, 09:00 PM
Fan-tastic.

I want one for Christmas.

HA! You have to kill Ariel Sharon to win the game!

I want it! I want it! I want it!

Helios Panoptes
12-15-2006, 09:03 PM
The only way I could care less is if I did not know this product existed.

Zrinski
12-15-2006, 09:04 PM
I've seen this before. I find it stupid.

MrAngry
12-15-2006, 09:06 PM
The only way I could care less is if I did not know this product existed.


Thats a great post, couldnt care less, I bet you I coud find plenty of posts on thi phora where there is indignation for anything that remotely discriminates against whites. Bet you'd care lots if it was reversed,

Dr. Gutberlet
12-15-2006, 09:08 PM
Yes it does actually, preaching racism is abhorent at the best of times, making a game based on it is just plain disgusting. I wonder where you sense decency liesin relationship to this peddling of hate to youngsters.

You're right, I'd much rather have liberals be the targets of my first-person shooter. Some literal bleeding hearts are in order.

Thomas777
12-15-2006, 09:09 PM
Like "Prussian Blue", "Resistence Records", and every other WN "media/entertainment" effort, nobody cares about this except you, Canadian antis, 3 or 4 weirdos who live in West Virginia, and Abe Foxman.

Thomas777
12-15-2006, 09:10 PM
You're right, I'd much rather have liberals be the targets of my first-person shooter. Some literal bleeding hearts are in order.

Bigtime. The time for drinking out of the hollowed-out skulls of liberal democrats and forcing their bitch-yuppie "partners" into sexual slavery is fucking nigh. Hail Lindstedt!

Thomas777
12-15-2006, 09:11 PM
We need a Martin Lindstedt game. "Grand Theft Auto: Gramby, Missouri".

MrAngry
12-15-2006, 09:14 PM
We need a Martin Lindstedt game. "Grand Theft Auto: Gramby, Missouri".


I'd love a real life, real time game kicking fuck out of pseudo plastic racists like you, see how pansy this liberal is...... :mad:

Thomas777
12-15-2006, 09:15 PM
I'd love a real life, real time game kicking fuck out of pseudo plastic racists like you, see how pansy this liberal is...... :mad:

Please. This is undignified.

Sandee
12-15-2006, 09:16 PM
It's not any worse than the other games. Does a game turn disgusting only if the race element is present? How can it be any more disturbing than other games where you're running over innocents, playing the role of a serial killer and so on and so forth?

MrAngry
12-15-2006, 09:17 PM
Bigtime. The time for drinking out of the hollowed-out skulls of liberal democrats and forcing their bitch-yuppie "partners" into sexual slavery is fucking nigh. Hail Lindstedt!


This is dignified? Hypocrite..

Thomas777
12-15-2006, 09:18 PM
This is dignified? Hypocrite..

You are obviously not familiar with the life and times of Martin Lindstedt.

MrAngry
12-15-2006, 09:19 PM
It's not any worse than the other games. Does a game turn disgusting only if the race element is present? How can it be any more disturbing than other games where you're running over innocents, playing the role of a serial killer and so on and so forth?


I agree all those "games" are truly disgusting. However, they are not personalised, this one and its ilk is, which makes it truly vile.

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
12-15-2006, 09:21 PM
Oh man this is halarious. The good one was the border patrol game like duck hunt, I invisioned this before it came out but now its out
http://www.resist.com/racistgames/playborderpatrol/borderpatrol.htm

I just scored 75 and I can post a screenshot if you don't believe me.

MrAngry
12-15-2006, 09:22 PM
You are obviously not familiar with the life and times of Martin Lindstedt.


Just read up, on a charge of child molestation....

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
12-15-2006, 09:25 PM
Super kkk brothers is another good one. You can download it as a nintendo rom.

http://www.romnation.net/srv/roms/34481/nes/Super-KKK-Bros-SMB1-Hack.html
http://www.romnation.net/srv/roms/34482/nes/Super-KKK-Bros-2-SMB2-Hack.html

Sandee
12-15-2006, 09:28 PM
I agree all those "games" are truly disgusting. However, they are not personalised, this one and its ilk is, which makes it truly vile.

I'd rather people were chanelling their frustration/anger/hatred by killing non-white characters in a game than them getting physically abusive in real life and/or letting such emotions build up inside them. :) I am not saying racists are aggressive but just a thought.

Plus, I don't think a game can turn someone racist. If most racists play such games it's because they're naturally drawn to those on some personal level. There are also many who play such games because they're taboo and not because they're racists. Usually, when people don't care much about such issues, they lose their appeal.

Winston
12-15-2006, 09:29 PM
I voted 'meh', but if the ADL doesn't like it then a general rule of thumb is that it might be at least worth a look.

Lily
12-15-2006, 09:30 PM
It's not any worse than the other games. Does a game turn disgusting only if the race element is present? How can it be any more disturbing than other games where you're running over innocents, playing the role of a serial killer and so on and so forth?
Sandee! Are you kidding me here? Of course those games are bad but it should be quite obvious why this is worse. It victimises and dehumanises only certain groups of people, Blacks making monkey noises? Oh please.
It would be the same if there was a racial element, gender element (only killing men/women) or an age element (only killing the elderly or young) because in these cases you'd have to ask yourself why choose those particular groups to victimise? At least in most other games in which you are a serial killer who picks on anyone it's all completely mindless. With these some thought has gone into who you are 'killing'.

MrAngry
12-15-2006, 09:31 PM
Super kkk brothers is another good one. You can download it as a nintendo rom.

http://www.romnation.net/srv/roms/34481/nes/Super-KKK-Bros-SMB1-Hack.html
http://www.romnation.net/srv/roms/34482/nes/Super-KKK-Bros-2-SMB2-Hack.html


A game that promotes discrimination and racial hatred is ok? It shows that underneath the surface, no matter how plausibe or "reasonable" a racist may seem deep down thet are really bigoted hypoctites with an element of hate.

AT least the mad maniac Masty is consistant, I never htought I'd ever write that

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
12-15-2006, 09:33 PM
You see its like super mario brothers but he's a skinhead and when he turns into fire mario he gets a kkk robe. The enemies are like gombas who are negros and the koopa troppas are negros with kentucy fried chicken bags. It really is a funny parody.

Sandee
12-15-2006, 09:36 PM
Sandee! Are you kidding me here? Of course those games are bad but it should be quite obvious why this is worse. It victimises and dehumanises only certain groups of people, Blacks making monkey noises? Oh please.
It would be the same if there was a racial element, gender element (only killing men/women) or an age element (only killing the elderly or young) because in these cases you'd have to ask yourself why choose those particular groups to victimise? At least in most other games in which you are a serial killer who picks on anyone it's all completely mindless. With these some thought has gone into who you are 'killing'.

There is a game (forgot which) my bro played, where the character (a serial killer) uses female prostitutes mostly as a human shield. Am I going to say they're being victimised? I could say it's sexist. :p Why no male prostitutes?

Helios Panoptes
12-15-2006, 09:37 PM
Thats a great post, couldnt care less, I bet you I coud find plenty of posts on thi phora where there is indignation for anything that remotely discriminates against whites. Bet you'd care lots if it was reversed,

If that were true, what would it prove?

Lily
12-15-2006, 09:39 PM
There is a game (forgot which) my bro played, where the character (a serial killer) uses female prostitutes mostly as a human shield. Am I going to say they're being victimised? I could say it's sexist. :p Why no male prostitutes?
What was the game called? Did the killer only victimise prostitutes and no-one else?

MrAngry
12-15-2006, 09:40 PM
If that were true, what would it prove?


The existance of such a game, which I dont believe one actually does.

Helios Panoptes
12-15-2006, 09:40 PM
The existance of such a game, which I dont believe one actually does.

I don't know what you're talking about.

MrAngry
12-15-2006, 09:45 PM
I don't know what you're talking about.


If a game based on blacks specifically killing whites were available, I would be pretty sure that it would find its way as a thread on here. I wonder if you'd be as non committal then, however such a game does not exist.

Helios Panoptes
12-15-2006, 09:47 PM
If a game based on blacks specifically killing whites were available, I would be pretty sure that it would find its way as a thread on here. I wonder if you'd be as non committal then, however such a game does not exist.

Right. I followed you that far. What I asked was: if it were true that I would not be as non-commital about such a game, what would be proved?

MrAngry
12-15-2006, 09:50 PM
Right. I followed you that far. What I asked was: if it were true that I would not be as non-commital about such a game, what would be proved?


Either you have no children or questionable morals. Do you belive that this type of hate game is appropriate for kids?

Lily
12-15-2006, 09:50 PM
Right. I followed you that far. What I asked was: if it were true that I would not be as non-commital about such a game, what would be proved?
That you are a hypocrite? It would depend on which grounds that you saw fit to dislike the hypothetical game more than the real one.

Dr. Gutberlet
12-15-2006, 09:51 PM
If a game based on blacks specifically killing whites were available, I would be pretty sure that it would find its way as a thread on here. I wonder if you'd be as non committal then, however such a game does not exist.


Uh, that game is called "Being white and living in a big city in the year 2006".

Sandee
12-15-2006, 09:51 PM
What was the game called? Did the killer only victimise prostitutes and no-one else?

I'll have to ask my bro. No, he was supposed to kill other characters but as human shields, there were mainly prostitutes around. Go figure. The other characters present were armed and thus, they wouldn't make easy human shields.

MrAngry
12-15-2006, 09:53 PM
Uh, that game is called "Being white and living in a big city in the year 2006".


I've lived in a few, I only ever saw racists promoting hate, just like this game..... An exageration on your part.

Lily
12-15-2006, 09:53 PM
I'll have to ask my bro. No, he was supposed to kill other characters but as human shields, there were mainly prostitutes around. Go figure. The other characters present were armed and thus, they wouldn't make easy human shields.
Well then. It is clearly not the same.

Helios Panoptes
12-15-2006, 10:05 PM
That you are a hypocrite? It would depend on which grounds that you saw fit to dislike the hypothetical game more than the real one.

You are mistaken, it would not prove that I am a hypocrite.

Sandee
12-15-2006, 10:07 PM
I wouldn't be so concerned. In fact, I hadn't heard of this game until now. In the same way, I actually got to know about Prussian Blue on MSF. Before that, I had never heard of them. My point is that controversy sells.

Morpheus
12-15-2006, 10:07 PM
I recall Prussian Blue playing this game in a documentary.

I don't really care if racists make little gaming abortions like this, it is just a reflection of their true mentality.

As far as violent videogaming in general is concerned, certainly there are games with themes that glorify violence and degenerate behavior, the most infamous of them being Grand Theft Auto where you can kill police and screw prostitutes and then run them over after you are done and recollect your money (although I do recall there being complaints from the media about the game promoting Cubans killing Haitians).

The difference between a game like that and a game like this is that this game promotes hostility towards specific ethnic groups which goes beyond entertainment it is meant to send a message.

"It's cool to hate these people and wouldn't it be nice if you could actually kill them?".

It would be like the U.S. military making a game for troops where they kill innocent Iraqis and rape women as their objective.

The makers of games like Grand Theft Auto are making a game where you role-play as a thug commiting crimes, it is purely entertainment and even it garners controversy.

So logically a game, made by racists, where the theme is to commit genocide against specific ethnic groups is going to be controversial as it is sending a message to the fanbase being targeted.

MrAngry
12-15-2006, 10:08 PM
You are mistaken, it would not prove that I am a hypocrite.


Then questionable morals then?

Helios Panoptes
12-15-2006, 10:09 PM
Then questionable morals then?

That is too vague for me to respond to. It would depend upon your morality.

Lily
12-15-2006, 10:12 PM
You are mistaken, it would not prove that I am a hypocrite.
I said it would depend on which grounds you objected to it. For example if you say that you disliked it purely for the violence and inciting of hatred, then yes you would be a hypocrite. If you disliked it because it was victimising whites which (I assume I could be wrong) is your particular ethnic group so you objected to it out of some sense of pride then, while I would disagree with you, I could not call you a hypocrite.

MrAngry
12-15-2006, 10:12 PM
That is too vague for me to respond to. It would depend upon your morality.


Take up politics, you'd be ace,

Helios Panoptes
12-15-2006, 10:14 PM
I said it would depend on which grounds you objected to it. For example if you say that you disliked it purely for the violence and inciting of hatred, then yes you would be a hypocrite. If you disliked it because it was victimising whites which (I assume I could be wrong) is your particular ethnic group so you objected to it out of some sense of pride then, while I would disagree with you, I could not call you a hypocrite.

Okay. I concur with this elucidation.

Sandee
12-16-2006, 12:11 AM
Playing the devil's advocate and just a thought. How can anyone not be hypocritical to some degree? What's the obsession with not wanting to appear as one even? :confused: I would say a hypocrite might actually be smarter because he cares for his interests first and maybe those who think like him (even if he couldn't care less when others are denied the same rights and could promote contrary beliefs when it comes to others other than himself and those he considers his in-group) and thus, he's able to stick up for himself and them because he knows he will benefit in return.

Lily
12-16-2006, 12:21 AM
Playing the devil's advocate and just a thought. How can anyone not be hypocritical to some degree? What's the obsession with not wanting to appear as one even? :confused: I would say a hypocrite might actually be smarter because he cares for his interests first and maybe those who think like him (even if he couldn't care less when others are denied the same rights and could promote contrary beliefs when it comes to others other than himself and those he considers his in-group) and thus, he's able to stick up for himself and them because he knows he will benefit in return.


:hijacked: :offtopic:


:D Seriously though, most people are hypocritical to some degree. This is one thing. Blatant hypocrisy is quite another, especially if you are taking a stance in which you are chastising people for a view you hold yourself. In such situations it is better to stay quiet.

Janus
12-16-2006, 12:36 AM
...real time game kicking fuck out of pseudo plastic racists... You can join "Antifa". :)

EDIT: I was shortening a quotation.

shanemac
12-16-2006, 12:38 AM
We need a Martin Lindstedt game. "Grand Theft Auto: Gramby, Missouri".


That's "Missery" isn't it. :rofl:

Janus
12-16-2006, 12:43 AM
They do not have a "demo". :rolleyes:

shanemac
12-16-2006, 12:48 AM
That game was put together by the coolest guy in the NSM, Jim Ramm. I voted "get me a copy. Yes... let the dehumanising commence.

Ahknaton
12-16-2006, 02:07 AM
This game is stupid, and damaging to White racialism. In a similar vein, there is a game called Underash made by Hamas where you get to fight Israelis.

calvin
12-16-2006, 02:32 AM
Whilst White “racist” act out their fantasies about exercising power over non-Whites, non-Whites are living their fantasy of dominating and intimidating, non-Whites in Scandinavia, France, Zimbabwe, the UK and South Africa. Does Mr “Angry” find time to get angry about the Keighley rapes, the Paris riots, the Kriss Donald torture and murder or the SA farm murders? Nah! He’s pissing his pants and sucking his thumb about a video game. Get real asshole!

Arminius
12-16-2006, 03:46 AM
Heres a peice on a great new game! How many of you approve of this I wonder?

http://www.leftbehindgames.com/pages/the_games.htm
:viking:

OVERWATCH
12-16-2006, 03:51 AM
Why would I want to be a severely obsolete game with a shitty soundtrack?

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
12-16-2006, 04:00 AM
Why would I want to be a severely obsolete game with a shitty soundtrack?
Obselete games based on old technology that are classics can be fun. As in ones with good ideas. I question whether this game is based on creative and innovative ideas. lol. I still voted yes.

Vasily Zaitsev
12-16-2006, 04:16 AM
The game is buggy and was rushed to market.

For once I actually agree with Mansa Musa. "Gaming abortion" indeed.

OVERWATCH
12-16-2006, 12:33 PM
"It's cool to hate these people and wouldn't it be nice if you could actually kill them?".

It would be like the U.S. military making a game for troops where they kill innocent Iraqis and rape women as their objective.

I don't agree.. I think that in the game Ethnic Cleansing, your targets are all hostile, armed, and trying to kill you, the player. What sort of fun would a game be if the targets were all unarmed people begging for their lives?

Grand Theft Auto glorifies violence which happens everday, all day long, in almost epic proportions.By contrast, Ethnic Cleansing glorifies violence which essentially only happens in a mythic, apocalyptic, survivalist scenario.

Ahknaton
12-16-2006, 12:41 PM
I've lived in a few, I only ever saw racists promoting hate, just like this game..... An exageration on your part.
Yeah but I bet not all of those "racists" were White. Not in my experience anyway. What is it with your fixation on "hate" anyway? How is an argument invalidated by being hateful? If White people are subject to negative experiences as a result of immigration into countries where they were formerly a majority, then rationally they should oppose it. Hating is optional and irrelevent.

Geist
12-16-2006, 01:13 PM
How can anybody motivate themselves to get upset about such a game? Anybody played Grand Theft Auto lately?

Lily
12-16-2006, 01:16 PM
How can anybody motivate themselves to get upset about such a game? Anybody played Grand Theft Auto lately?
It is completely different and you know it. Grand Theft Auto is violent but it does not victimise one particular group of people. It is completely mindless.

Geist
12-16-2006, 01:22 PM
It is completely different and you know it. Grand Theft Auto is violent but it does not victimise one particular group of people. It is completely mindless.

My point is that kids have games with far more violence, and what matters to them: better graphics!

Lily
12-16-2006, 01:24 PM
My point is that kids have games with far more violence, and what matters to them: better graphics!
It's not the violence that is the (major) problem to me though. It is the discriminatory element to it.

OVERWATCH
12-16-2006, 04:00 PM
It's not the violence that is the (major) problem to me though. It is the discriminatory element to it.

Why? Violence is violence. The motivation of the perpetrator doesn't exacerbate the physical injuries to the victim, whatsoever. Getting hit in the head with a slug is still getting hit in the head with a slug no matter the thoughts going through the mind of the shooter; it harms the shootee just the same.

Lily
12-16-2006, 04:24 PM
Why? Violence is violence. The motivation of the perpetrator doesn't exacerbate the physical injuries to the victim, whatsoever. Getting hit in the head with a slug is still getting hit in the head with a slug no matter the thoughts going through the mind of the shooter; it harms the shootee just the same.
In real life sure. This is a game though, while I am no fan of violence in games anyway, at least in games like GTA - everyone is a victim. I suppose the whole 'Ethnic Cleansing' idea comes across as completely disturbing to me is because by singling out certain groups to be the victims it creates an awareness of who you are killing.
I suppose the argument could be made that WW2 games are just as bad as they generally vilify German soldiers (by making them the 'bad guys') but as far as I am aware, in such games you can choose which side you are on. Something tells me this is not the case in 'Ethnic Cleansing'. :p Even the title is disgusting, at least with a war game it's all about strategey.

Vasily Zaitsev
12-16-2006, 11:03 PM
It's not the violence that is the (major) problem to me though. It is the discriminatory element to it.

This is what we call a "conditioned response."

Starr
12-16-2006, 11:08 PM
Oh man this is halarious. The good one was the border patrol game like duck hunt, I invisioned this before it came out but now its out
http://www.resist.com/racistgames/playborderpatrol/borderpatrol.htm

I just scored 75 and I can post a screenshot if you don't believe me.


I like this one, also:rofl: I have never been able to get to 75, however.

Either you have no children or questionable morals. Do you belive that this type of hate game is appropriate for kids?

If I had kids I would not let them play it, just as I would not let them play any number of other violent video games that are out there. I don't see this as any worse than others.

It is strange how certain people will have such a strong reaction to a game like this when those same kind of people will also write off concerns about other violence in video games and violence and other vulgarities in popular culture(having an effect on morals,etc.) as silly and paranoid.

Lily
12-16-2006, 11:17 PM
This is what we call a "conditioned response."
No, it is simply my opinion.

Vasily Zaitsev
12-17-2006, 03:00 AM
No, it is simply my opinion.

Indeed it is.

However, your inability to form a cogent argument as to why targeted violence is more abhorrent than random violence speaks to conditioning as opposed to conscious deliberation.

Furthermore, the fact that you tend to be a compassionate person yet this situation has you advocating in favor of a product that potentially endangers more people is indicative of the operation of an implanted meme that runs counter to your instinct.

Lily
12-17-2006, 09:16 AM
Indeed it is.

However, your inability to form a cogent argument as to why targeted violence is more abhorrent than random violence speaks to conditioning as opposed to conscious deliberation.
I have explained why I find the targetted violence more abhorrent than random violence. My last answer is one page back.

Furthermore, the fact that you tend to be a compassionate person yet this situation has you advocating in favor of a product that potentially endangers more people is indicative of the operation of an implanted meme that runs counter to your instinct.
elaborate? I'm not sure I follow.

Helios Panoptes
12-17-2006, 09:28 AM
I have explained why I find the targetted violence more abhorrent than random violence. My last answer is one page back.

Yes, but I wouldn't call it a cogent argument. It's more of an opinion.

Vasily Zaitsev
12-17-2006, 09:33 AM
Yes, but I wouldn't call it a cogent argument. It's more of an opinion.

Bingo.

(filler)

Vasily Zaitsev
12-17-2006, 09:40 AM
elaborate? I'm not sure I follow.

Assuming that video games really do effect youthful minds (if that were not assumed this discussion would be moot, no?), Ethnic Cleansing is a less dangerous product than Grand Theft Auto.

EC teaches white youths that violence toward black, mestizo, and Jewish males (about 15% of the population, using American demographics) is fun.

GTA teaches youths of all colors that violence against everybody is fun.

Which product stands to effect more players and put more targets at risk?

My argument is that, as a person who tends to be compassionate, you would find GTA more offensive were your instincts not hindered by an implanted meme.

Lily
12-17-2006, 09:47 AM
Assuming that video games really do effect youthful minds (if that were not assumed this discussion would be moot, no?), Ethic Cleansing is a less dangerous product than Grand Theft Auto.

EC teaches white youths that violence toward black, mestizo, and Jewish males (about 15% of the population, using American demographics) is fun.

GTA teaches youths of all colors that violence against everybody is fun.

Which product stands to effect more players and put more targets at risk?

My argument is that, as a person who tends to be compassionate, you would find GTA more offensive were your instincts not hindered by an implanted meme.
Well I would argue that EC is a more dangerous product because it instills hatred for only a certain part of the population, if I had recieved a game like that as a child, the first thing that I would have accepted is that 'these people are different, this is why they are the 'bad guys''. In games like GTA - everyone is a victim, even people who are 'like' the player, so when you are committing these acts of violence you are quite aware that there is no real motive. It's just gratuitous.
Of course this is simply my opinion I am not trying to change anyones mind.

Agnostic Priest
12-17-2006, 10:30 AM
I have two copies of the video game Ethnic cleansing. I ordered one game for 14.99 but RR made a mistake, they sent two games.(Didn’t bill my bank card for the 2nd) I called Resistance records I asked the the sales person if she wanted me to return the second game she said Nah no bigie keep it. I was like hell yeah too cool. The second game is brand new its gathering dust in the shed outside my house. The only thing I don’t like about Ethnic cleansing is that the game is not compatible with Mac OSX. Too bad because EC is an awesome game. :(

Helios Panoptes
12-17-2006, 10:43 AM
Well I would argue that EC is a more dangerous product because it instills hatred for only a certain part of the population, if I had recieved a game like that as a child, the first thing that I would have accepted is that 'these people are different, this is why they are the 'bad guys''. In games like GTA - everyone is a victim, even people who are 'like' the player, so when you are committing these acts of violence you are quite aware that there is no real motive. It's just gratuitous.
Of course this is simply my opinion I am not trying to change anyones mind.

The crux of the issue is that nobody plays the one game, but the other is extremely popular. One cannot pretend as though both were equally popular. Assuming that video game violence is detrimental to civil society, GTA is doing a lot more harm than EC, so the former should rankle you more. Tbh, EC is irrelevant unless you fall into one of the categories mentioned by Thomas777 near the beginning of the thread.

Lily
12-17-2006, 10:44 AM
The crux of the issue is that nobody plays the one game, but the other is extremely popular. One cannot pretend as though both were equally popular. Assuming that video game violence is detrimental to civil society, GTA is doing a lot more harm than EC, so the former should rankle you moreso. Tbh, EC is irrelevant unless you fall into one of the categories mentioned by Thomas777 near the beginning of the thread.
I agree. I never said otherwise, at least I didn't intend to make it seem as if I felt that way, it's just the thread is about EC not GTA. While I find the former more abhorrent I am fully aware that GTA is potentially having a more detrimental effect on society.

Anarch
12-17-2006, 11:35 AM
Incidentally, I have heard that Ethnic Cleansing is actually a shit quality game, with fairly poor graphics, weak sound effects and the engine itself isn't brilliant, and pretty boring gameplay.