What is the point of the colourblind society?

[Lily]

It just strikes me that now that racists are permitted to post in here, it is just like any other part of the forum. :confused:

[Kriger]

Anti-racists are allowed to post anywhere they so choose in the forum.

Do you not believe in "equal rights"?

[Lily]

Anti-racists are allowed to post anywhere they so choose in the forum.

Do you not believe in "equal rights"?
Well that was completely irrelevant. Thanks for that.

[Helios Panoptes]

It serves no purpose. It should be expunged. I am opposed to superfluous forums in which hardly anyone posts.

[Kriger]

Well that was completely irrelevant. Thanks for that.

Why do you consider it to be irrelevant?

[Lily]

Why do you consider it to be irrelevant?
I asked 'what the purpose' of this forum was, you didn't answer the question, you were trying to make a point.

Anyway to answer your question 'do I believe in equal rights?' No I don't.

[Hakluyt]

The Phora has kind of a tradition of semi-autonomous 'private' forums, with leaders of their own, but whose membership is shared with the rest of the board and is allowed to post everywhere. Classic ones were The Fedayeen Tent and The Socialist Paradise, which lives on.

That said, the Colourblind Society is too inactive and not interesting to begin with and should be done away with.

[Arminius]

I don't understand the point of a private forum where everyone is essentially agreeing with each other. How boring.

"Those racist sure are hypocritical."
"Indeed."
"Yes..."
"ROCK ON!"
"Agreed."
"EVILL RACISTS!!"

That goes for any ideology. I don't like WN boards were it is all WN, talking about how Jews are in control of everything and how their mailman is a Jew for losing their pay-check.

[ivory bill]

Blind is the key-word; it's a forum dedicated to a willful blindness to the realities of biology, history, and current events.

A forum dedicated to such a one-note subject could as easily be called "Tone-deaf Society".

There are plenty of other venues for political, correctness, non-White ethnic-cheerleading, and hypocritical self-congratulation.

[MrAngry]

I don't understand the point of a private forum where everyone is essentially agreeing with each other. How boring.

"Those racist sure are hypocritical."
"Indeed."
"Yes..."
"ROCK ON!"
"Agreed."
"EVILL RACISTS!!"

That goes for any ideology. I don't like WN boards were it is all WN, talking about how Jews are in control of everything and how their mailman is a Jew for losing their pay-check.

I think there ought to be a separate private forum, perhaps antis may feel happier to join of there was a "haven" where they could discuss racism on different levels with barracking from the racists. I've seen antis come and go in the short time I have been on here.

[Helios Panoptes]

I think there ought to be a separate private forum, perhaps antis may feel happier to join of there was a "haven" where they could discuss racism on different levels with barracking from the racists. I've seen antis come and go in the short time I have been on here.

I do not agree. The forum's purpose is an open exchange of ideas, not the maintenance of several discrete circle jerks. A poster's feet should be put to the fire. If he doesn't want that, there are plenty of other forums on the internet.

I really dislike these namby-pamby losers who want to be able to post without being challenged. F*ck that.

[MrAngry]

Blind is the key-word; it's a forum dedicated to a willful blindness to the realities of biology, history, and current events.

Often debated, never proven, dont claim reality as a basis to prove that you are vcorrect in your views, in "reality" you are very much a minority with a wishful, whimsical racist view.

A forum dedicated to such a one-note subject could as easily be called "Tone-deaf Society".

There are plenty of other venues for political, correctness, non-White ethnic-cheerleading, and hypocritical self-congratulation.


This is typical, "I'm right, you're wrong" therefore we are guilty of political, correctness, non-White ethnic-cheerleading, and hypocritical self-congratulation

The whole point of a private forum for antis is validated by your post, thanks.:)

[MrAngry]

I do not agree. The forum's purpose is an open exchange of ideas, not the maintenance of several discrete circle jerks. A poster's feet should be put to the fire. If he doesn't want that, there are plenty of other forums on the internet.

I really dislike these namby-pamby losers who want to be able to post without being challenged. F*ck that.

Then you would support the removal of the socialist paradise forum too?

[Helios Panoptes]

Then you would support the removal of the socialist paradise forum too?

I would support retaining it because there are many socialists on this forum who wish to discuss the details of socialism, but I would publicize it.

[Kriger]

I think there ought to be a separate private forum, perhaps antis may feel happier to join of there was a "haven" where they could discuss racism on different levels with barracking from the racists. I've seen antis come and go in the short time I have been on here.

Well, here we go with equal rights again.

Antis are continually jumping into White racist discussions with each other with their anti-racist mantras.

Let a White racist do the same with an anti-racist discussion and the whining and crying begins.

It would seem that anti-racists demand the right to disrupt racist discussions, but also attempt to deny the racists the right to do the same.

Hello, just who is the asshole?

[Lily]

I do not agree. The forum's purpose is an open exchange of ideas, not the maintenance of several discrete circle jerks. A poster's feet should be put to the fire. If he doesn't want that, there are plenty of other forums on the internet.

I really dislike these namby-pamby losers who want to be able to post without being challenged. F*ck that.
What on earth makes you think that antis agree about everything? I see no reason why the Socialists and the Christians should be allowed seperate forums to discuss their ideologies without interference if the Anti-racists are not allowed to do so also.

@ Ritter, you also seem to be under the impression that antis all agree with each other. For example Benfromcanada and I are both anti-racists but there are a hell of alot of things that we disagree on, from what constitutes racism to the existance and importance of race itself. It would be nice to be able to discuss such matters seperate from the racists, in the same way that the Socialists like to discuss their varying degrees and perspectives on their politics

[Janus]

No I don't. You are my kind of lady. ;)

[MrAngry]

Well, here we go with equal rights again.

And?

Antis are continually jumping into White racist discussions with each other with their anti-racist mantras.

Pot and kettle shirt, pot and kettle.....

Let a White racist do the same with an anti-racist discussion and the whining and crying begins.

Pot and kettle shirt, pot and kettle..... Racists have the largest victim mentality of all group, "the Jews", "the blacks" ain't me!?


It would seem that anti-racists demand the right to disrupt racist discussions, but also attempt to deny the racists the right to do the same.

Pot and kettle shirt, pot and kettle..... there seems to be some consistancy to your post, hypocritical

Hello, just who is the asshole?

Answer, you are Shirt, you are :)

[Lily]

You are my kind of lady. ;)
Trust me, I'm not. I never said that I didn't believe in equal rights based on race did I? I just don't believe in it in general.

[Helios Panoptes]

What on earth makes you think that antis agree about everything?

You have a tendency to put words in posters' mouths. Why is that?

I see no reason why the Socialists and the Christians should be allowed seperate forums to discuss their ideologies without interference if the Anti-racists are not allowed to do so also.

I support both of those forums being public.

Also, you seem not to have noticed that there is some difference between anti-racism and socialism. The latter, in my experience, is more sectarian and in-group members are likely to dispute one another. Anti-racism is different. For example, mootstormfront members, like BenfromCanada, have stated that they come here because there aren't enough anti-racists to debate on MSF. The socialists are able to debate amongst themselves and have less of a need to find a non-socialist adversary than anti-racists do to find a racist. Christianity is also schismatic and disputes arise quickly and easily amongst Christians.

[Kriger]

And?



Pot and kettle shirt, pot and kettle.....



Pot and kettle shirt, pot and kettle..... Racists have the largest victim mentality of all group, "the Jews", "the blacks" ain't me!?




Pot and kettle shirt, pot and kettle..... there seems to be some consistancy to your post, hypocritical



Answer, you are Shirt, you are :)

I speak reality. You whine and cry that your idealist viewpoint of the world has little to do with reality.

You are attacking the wrong one with your misconceptions of the real world.

But that is all right. Just shows everyone how blind to reality you are. Carry on.

[Lily]

You have a tendency to put words in posters' mouths. Why is that?
I really dislike these namby-pamby losers who want to be able to post without being challenged. F*ck that.
I am only inferring this from what you said, after all this statement is an assumption that we would not be challenged, what makes you think we wouldn't challenge one another?

I support both of those forums being public.
At least you are consistant, that's fair enough.

Also, you seem not to have noticed that there is some difference between anti-racism and socialism. The latter, in my experience, is more sectarian and in-group members are likely to dispute one another. Anti-racism is different. For example, mootstormfront members, like BenfromCanada, have stated that they come here because there aren't enough anti-racists to debate on MSF. The socialists are able to debate amongst themselves and have less of a need to find a non-socialist adversary than anti-racists do to find a racist. Christianity is also schismatic and disputes arise quickly and easily amongst Christians.
Some of us perhaps, but this is true of all people who fall into certain groups. I certainly challenge anyone I disagree with, racist or not.

[MrAngry]

I speak reality. You whine and cry that your idealist viewpoint of the world has little to do with reality.

You are attacking the wrong one with your misconceptions of the real world.

But that is all right. Just shows everyone how blind to reality you are. Carry on.


No you speak your reality, steeped in a rose coloured view of yesteryear, isnt it you that has cried about the loss of idealistic life in the 50's and 60's? I prefer to deal with the realities of today, not hark back to a bygone era that existed in perfection between your own two ears....

You are not blind Shirt, you are blinkered and you have started to believe your own propaganda. I will carry on, you keep kidding yourself...

[Helios Panoptes]

I am only inferring this from what you said, after all this statement is an assumption that we would not be challenged, what makes you think we wouldn't challenge one another?

I was replying to MrAngry's post which stated that anti-racists come and go, and the reason for their lack of persistence is that there is no haven for them. I inferred, thereby, that we were talking about "namby-pamby losers" who need to be shielded from dissent.

Some of us perhaps, but this is true of all people who fall into certain groups. I certainly challenge anyone I disagree with, racist or not.

I do not intend to imply that anti-racists do not dispute one another about various subjects, but rather that there is less contestation within the general category of "anti-racism" than there is within "socialism." The latter is more factional. Another way to put it is that anti-racists do not disagree with one another on the topic of anti-racism nearly as much as socialists do on the topic of socialism.

[Sandee]

I think this forum should be done away with. It really serves no purpose. If I truly wanted to discuss antiracism with antis without racists interfering, I'd go to MSF (with its predominantly high number of antiracist posters) or the other antiracist forums (where racists aren't allowed to post); I think there is one such website actually where Daryl Lamont is founder but I think that there are more race debates in the other forums than in this forum either way.

Maybe this forum was created to make antiracists feel more comfortable with posting but hardly any of the antis post here anyway. You could introduce yourself to other antis but most who join don't even bother with this one.

[Kriger]

No you speak your reality, steeped in a rose coloured view of yesteryear, isnt it you that has cried about the loss of idealistic life in the 50's and 60's? I prefer to deal with the realities of today, not hark back to a bygone era that existed in perfection between your own two ears....

You are not blind Shirt, you are blinkered and you have started to believe your own propaganda. I will carry on, you keep kidding yourself...

This is amusing coming from one who I have to provide with the facts of today's world.

[Lily]

I think this forum should be done away with. It really serves no purpose. If I truly wanted to discuss antiracism with antis without racists interfering, I'd go to MSF (with its predominantly high number of antiracist posters) or the other antiracist forums (where racists aren't allowed to post; I think there is one such website actually Daryl Lamont is but I think that there are more race debates in the other forums than in this forum either way.

Maybe this forum was created to make antiracists feel more comfortable with posting but hardly any of the antis post here anyway. You could introduce yourself to other antis but most who join don't even bother with this one.
Well of course it serves no purpose for you, are you even an Anti? Besides you've made it clear that the race-debate no longer interests you, so it stands to reason that this forum wouldn't :p
The reason I don't use it is because there is no point, I might as well just post in the lounge. If it became privatised I'd likely use it more frequently.

[MrAngry]

This is amusing coming from one who I have to provide with the facts of today's world.


You dont need to provide facts, only to support some of the posts you make, emotional usually. I live in the same world, you can poo poo my view, but I should just accept yours?

[Arminius]

@ Ritter, you also seem to be under the impression that antis all agree with each other.

Not on all things, but on issues of race, it is safe to say they agree on most things. Private sections don't have a stellar reputation for me. If someone needs a private section in order to express their true views, without fear of the other side debating them, then I don't think this forum is for them at all.

[Sandee]

I'm conservative somewhat with respect to my culture, so does it mean I'm racist?

Why can't antis challenge each other and also racists in debates? For example, I have debated with Kamandi before when we disagreed over introducing sharia law in Canada or outside predominantly what would be considered predominantly muslim countries. There are many others who contributed to that thread (WNs for example) and the thread wouldn't have been as interesting if it was restricted but to antiracists.

[Kriger]

You dont need to provide facts, only to support some of the posts you make, emotional usually. I live in the same world, you can poo poo my view, but I should just accept yours?

I have told you on numerous occasions that what you want to believe is your option in life. How many times do I have to tell you? I could care less what you believe or do not believe. It affects my life like zero.

In the meantime, I post links that confirm the facts I am presenting, which is far more than your own pitiful attempts at "proving" your unrealistic mantras.

And so, one more time, do with it as you will. I could care less, in the meantime I present the links that show the facts.

Are you calling me a liar?

[Lily]

I'm conservative somewhat with respect to my culture, so does it mean I'm racist?

Why can't antis challenge each other and also racists in debates? For example, I have debated with Kamandi before when we disagreed over introducing sharia law in Canada or outside predominantly what would be considered predominantly muslim countries. There are many others who contributed to that thread (WNs for example) and the thread wouldn't have been as interesting if it was restricted but to antiracists.
No, I never said you were racist, but you do not seem to be implicitly antiracist, more indifferent to it.

[MrAngry]

I have told you on numerous occasions that what you want to believe is your option in life. How many times do I have to tell you? I could care less what you believe or do not believe. It affects my life like zero.

In the meantime, I post links that confirm the facts I am presenting, which is far more than your own pitiful attempts at "proving" your unrealistic mantras.

And so, one more time, do with it as you will. I could care less, in the meantime I present the links that show the facts.

Are you calling me a liar?


Im calling you a delusional liar with a cherry on top. Your view is whimsical and based on thin air, it makes no difference to me, I dont understand your racism, you dont expalin it. What facts? Are you fantasising again?

[Sandee]

No, I never said you were racist, but you do not seem to be implicitly antiracist, more indifferent to it.

I'm more interested and likely to participate in debates where culture is discussed rather than race. :) I avoid race debates but now and then, I might have my say.

This forum, as you have yourself noticed, hardly gets any activity. For example, MrAngry could have started his threads here but he himself posted the majority of his threads in the other forums. Most antiracists come here to challenge those truly opposed to their ideas more than those who agree with them - even though they may still have differing views with other antis on certain issues.

Also, this forum isn't really like SF in that, it is more open and there are posters who clearly can't be pigeonholed into a specific category. There are people who are aware of racial differences but aren't racists. I'm like that. Hindustan is like this too. It would seem. There are conservatives who just want to preserve cultural heritage. What if they want to challenge your views but they don't consider themselves either racist or antiracist? What if there is a specific topic they could contribute to but they don't really match your definition of an antiracist? I was considered racist because of my views on marriage for example. However, I'm not antagonistic to other races. It's more a matter of cultural differences and wanting to preserve your own heritage.

[Kriger]

Im calling you a delusional liar with a cherry on top. Your view is whimsical and based on thin air, it makes no difference to me, I dont understand your racism, you dont expalin it. What facts? Are you fantasising again?

Then I suggest you get busy and prove your allegations.

[MrAngry]

Then I suggest you get busy and prove your allegations.


Look through sme of your own posts, plenty of evidence matey

[Kriger]

Look through sme of your own posts, plenty of evidence matey

I suggest you prove your allegations, "matey".