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Atlas
12-01-2005, 01:46 AM
Baltic girls forced into sex slavery

By Martha Buckley
BBC News


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Five Albanian pimps have been convicted of sex trafficking offences after a trial at Southwark Crown Court. The inquiry was triggered by an investigation into the trade by the BBC's Six O'Clock News.

On 31 October 2004, a 16-year-old Lithuanian girl made what was probably the biggest mistake of her young life when she agreed to go on a trip to the UK with a group of new friends.

Instead of the few days of fun she had been promised, she ended up being sold into prostitution in an ordeal that was to last for months.


A missing persons hunt sparked by her disappearance eventually led police to a series of west London brothels and a gang of Albanian people traffickers.
Jurors at Southwark Crown Court heard how the girl was "tricked" into leaving her home in a village near the town of Siauliai after being befriended by a young man.


He introduced her to a group of his "friends" in a nightclub, who invited her to join them on an exciting "sports" trip to London, all expenses paid.
After forging a permission letter from her parents, the men took her to Sheffield and handed her over to a gang who took her ID card - which clearly showed she was only 16.


Sold on



This group sold her on again to a group of Albanian pimps - the four Demarku brothers - Flamur, 33, Agron, 21, Bedari, 21, and Xhevair - and Izzet Fejzullahu, 32.
They told her she would have to work as a prostitute to cover the money they had paid for her and took her to a house in Pears Road, Hounslow - one of a string of brothels in the west London suburb.



Under the working name "Veronica from Italy", she was forced to sleep with as many as 10 men a day and earning her pimps around £800 a day - of which she received nothing, despite being promised a share.
The brothels operated 24 hours a day, seven days a week - with the "girls" allowed one day off a week.


Huge profits


The brothels were advertised through phone box cards



According to one witness, the brothel in Pears Road alone took between £3,000 and £18,000 a day. The rent for the property was only £1,000 a month.
The gang were making huge profits and several of them drove around in new Mercedes cars.


"Veronica" was allowed occasional phone calls home but was too frightened and embarrassed to tell her mother what was really going on.

The gang occasionally sent the family £100 or so, which the prosecution argued was intended to make them think their daughter was doing well abroad.

But the family remained worried and began searching for her, with the help of a Lithuanian missing persons TV show.
A team from the BBC's Six O'Clock News, who were investigating the sex trade, flew to Lithuania and interviewed her family.


Clues led to London



The BBC team alerted the Metropolitan Police after the money transfers gave a clue that she might be in London.

The Met was already aware of the Pears Road brothel and visited it on 16 December 2004.
She was not there but a notice advertising "new beautiful ladies at very good prices" gave a phone number, which led to another brothel in nearby Kingsley Road.



Police raided it the same day and rescued "Veronica", who was interviewed and then flown back to Lithuania to be reunited with her family.
But, suspecting she was not the only trafficked woman working against their will, they placed the gang under surveillance.


Series of raids


Izzet Fejzullahu (left) and Agron Demarku face long sentence

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Over the next four months they found five houses in Hounslow, Isleworth and Feltham which were being used as brothels with at least five girls in each.

Undercover officers posed as clients to gather evidence against the pimps and to try to identify women in need of help.
In April 2005 they carried out a series of raids, seizing documents relating to Lithuanian women, evidence of money transfers, menus of sexual services and many thousands of pounds in cash - in one case £30,000 was found at a single address rented by the gang.


Among them was another young woman from Siauliai, a 19-year-old student who had been a virgin before she was sold to the gang.
Like "Veronica" she had been tricked into coming to the UK by a young man who befriended her before feeding her a "string of lies" about a nice house and a bar job.


She was met at Heathrow by Fejzullahu and Agron Demarku and driven to one of the brothels.

Giving evidence from behind a screen, she told the court:

"The girls were walking around in nightdresses and then a man walked in, a client, and I asked what I was really there for.
"They laughed and said: 'Prostitution'. I burst into tears. I said I don't want to do that and that I wanted to go home.

"But I was told I wouldn't leave before four months because I would have to work off a huge amount of money paid for my journey




'Sold like cattle'




The gang gave the girls little or no money and kept them in the brothels mainly through fear, occasionally selling them on to other traffickers "like cattle", prosecutors said.

Michael Holland, prosecuting, said although the gang did not resort to physical violence, the girls were cowed into submission partly by threats and partly by their predicament - strangers in a foreign country, without their passports, unable to speak the language, understand their rights or even be sure where they were.
Fejzullahu and the Demarku brothers told the women who were trafficked from abroad they had to work to pay off their purchase price after which they would be allowed a share of their earnings.


By this time, the prosecution said, most would be "broken" - too ashamed and worn down by degradation to go home and resigned to a life of prostitution and being forced to work for their "owners".

Fejzullahu and three of the Demarku brothers were found guilty of trafficking and prostitution offences on Tuesday. They will be sentenced, along with Xhevair Demarku - who pleaded guilty before the trial, on Thursday. Last month three sex traffickers who had run a similar prostitution ring in Sheffield, and had dealings with the Demarku brothers, were jailed. Tasim Axhami, from Kosovo, was found guilty of rape and jailed for 21 years. Emiljan Deqirat, from Albania, was given 16 years for sex trafficking offences, and Vilma Kizlaite, a Lithuanian, was sentenced to 11 years for false imprisonment.



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Anarch
12-01-2005, 01:56 AM
Death penalty would be one way of doing with scum like this.

Jimbo Gomez
12-01-2005, 07:30 AM
I think you'll all agree with the reasons why I consider albanians to be the biggest scum in Europe now. When you hear of crap like this and the offender is European, notice how he ALWAYS turns out to be albanian.

Bartholomew Roberts
12-01-2005, 08:07 AM
The albanians are the most criminal people native to europe period!

Ambrosio Spinola
12-01-2005, 09:36 AM
Over here our Albanians are called Romanians, Poles and Bulgars.
We also have over here quite some Eastern european whores who curiously end up mostly marrying one of their customers which still beats them marrying a south american mestizo whore.

Anarch
12-01-2005, 09:51 AM
I think you'll all agree with the reasons why I consider albanians to be the biggest scum in Europe now. When you hear of crap like this and the offender is European, notice how he ALWAYS turns out to be albanian.
I have come to revise my suggestion on the death sentance. First, castration by half-sharp rusty spoon drenched in vinegar and vinegar. Then make them choke on their own manhood. And possibly after that, incineration. Might discourage them.

Jimbo Gomez
12-01-2005, 10:17 AM
Are you insane?

Just give them a clean hanging in public.

Slavic Enforcer
12-01-2005, 12:36 PM
I really don't want to have anything to do with them (at least not with the muslim ones).

Ace Rimmer
12-01-2005, 12:46 PM
Terrible, scum.
Unfortunately, this case is not isolated, Eastern Europe is becoming to Western Europe
what Africa was to Americas, only "the goods" are females.

Terrible.

Anarch
12-01-2005, 12:54 PM
Are you insane?

Just give them a clean hanging in public.
Mazdak would approve. A clean hanging is simple. It takes seconds before they die, if that. State action must exceed the actions of the criminal.

Jimbo Gomez
12-01-2005, 01:06 PM
What are you? A taliban 'scholar'?

Anarch
12-01-2005, 01:19 PM
Since when did you get all pussy-footed? :p

No, seriously. Joseph Di Maistre put a similar view foward, that the state must issue the criminal with violence equal to or greater than what he causes, so the balance of order should be kept. And he was a militant Catholic :p

Jimbo Gomez
12-01-2005, 01:24 PM
Doesn't mean he can't be wrong. Civilized people don't engage in gory bloody torture. A public execution is enough. if that doesn't scare a criminal, he's too fucked up to be impressed by public disembowlment either. And if a punishment doesn't work to impress a criminal, the only reason you could think of to use it anyway is if it somehow benefits society.

As I said earlier, savagery does not benefit society.

Anarch
12-01-2005, 01:27 PM
Oh, come on. They use to hang, draw and quarter some criminals. I'd settle for that.

Jimbo Gomez
12-01-2005, 01:29 PM
I know they did, and as you very well know, that didn't impress criminals at all, and the main function was popular amusement. I do not think a society where such gore is considered amusement is a decent one.

Ace Rimmer
12-01-2005, 01:34 PM
I like the idea of public (criminals among them) not knowing what actually happened to them.
This scares the shit out of people.
He may be rotting in jail or he may be executed or tortured daily, let them think about it.
The speculations and deliberately inflamed rumors that lead to paranoia and fear can be quite effective.

Turkish jails come to mind, similar practice, once you end up there, you're finished and forgotten.

Anarch
12-01-2005, 01:36 PM
Sure. But we're not talking about some drunk guy sticking another drunk guy in the guts with a knife, Stan. For that you can go ahead and give someone a simple hanging to discourage drunks from playing with shiny things. And hanging one pimp is all well and good - he's not going to repeat his crime. But we're talking about Albanians here :p Are you sure they'd be that impressed about one of their kind getting killed? They've fought the Serbs, and the Macedonians, and they're not particularly discouraged by it.

Jimbo Gomez
12-01-2005, 01:39 PM
Disembowling or beheading them won't impress them any more than a hanging Jack.

Anarch
12-01-2005, 01:41 PM
Ok, fine. But Vlad the Impaler was awesome.

Petr
12-01-2005, 06:27 PM
As I said earlier, savagery does not benefit society.

Here's a nice Biblical way to deal with this sort of pimp scum:

"Reconstructionists provide the most enthusiastic constituency for stoning since the Taliban seized Kabul. "Why stoning?" asks North. "There are many reasons. First, the implements of execution are available to everyone at virtually no cost." Thrift and ubiquity aside, "executions are community projects--not with spectators who watch a professional executioner do `his' duty, but rather with actual participants." You might even say that like square dances or quilting bees, they represent the kind of hands-on neighborliness so often missed in this impersonal era. "That modern Christians never consider the possibility of the reintroduction of stoning for capital crimes," North continues, "indicates how thoroughly humanistic concepts of punishment have influenced the thinking of Christians." And he may be right about that last point, you know."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1022117/posts


Petr

Jimbo Gomez
12-01-2005, 06:32 PM
Do you endorse this stoning idea Petr?

Petr
12-01-2005, 06:34 PM
With this sort of pimp scum? Definitely.


Petr

Watzy
12-01-2005, 06:34 PM
I never heard we had any trouble with Albanian minority here. Criminals I do condemn, but oppose the generalization.

jcs
12-01-2005, 06:45 PM
First, castration by half-sharp rusty spoon drenched in vinegar and vinegar. Then make them choke on their own manhood. And possibly after that, incineration. Might discourage them.
Even if your intent is discouragement, most sane people would perceive this as some depraved desire for the most vengeful punishment imaginable. Might discourage sick criminals from being sick themselves, but those who feel revolted by such punishment may--revolt.

executions are community projects--not with spectators who watch a professional executioner do `his' duty, but rather with actual participants.
Sick vengeance-lust, especially considering that those who were not wronged are permitted to participate in the punishment. A community is only indirectly damaged; the victims or the victims' most immediate relatives are the only ones who have any right to pursue vengeance, if they are so inclined.

I'm opposed to all government action that sets discouragement of bad behavior as its aim. Removal, via execution, should be the goal, not reformation of criminals, nor punishment, nor discouragement. Those who do not commit a crime only because they are afraid to do so are not good individuals and do not belong in a society, so do not frighten them with torture--wait until they commit their crimes, then kill them. Eugenics, my friends.
And if the victims or victims' relatives can get to the criminal and have their vengeance, they should not be punished, discouraged, reformed, or removed, of course; no 'right' is more natural.

Petr
12-01-2005, 07:14 PM
Sick vengeance-lust, especially considering that those who were not wronged are permitted to participate in the punishment. A community is only indirectly damaged; the victims or the victims' most immediate relatives are the only ones who have any right to pursue vengeance, if they are so inclined.
You are just thinking in terms of silly and destructive modern Western hyper-individualism.


Petr

jcs
12-01-2005, 07:25 PM
You are just thinking in terms of silly and destructive modern Western hyper-individualism.
No, I'm not. I'm thinking in terms of who was wronged, and it was not the community. A community of people, even a close community, could not experience the victimisation as a victim himself would experience it. And if the victim was rendered unable to have his vengeance (if so inclined), those close to the victim should have that right--simply because they would feel the victim's pain more than the whole community. Think of a crime as a stone, the victim as a point in the water of the community where the stone splashes. Those close to the victim undergo greater displacement than those far away. If the whole community participates, you'll have people who were relatively unaffected joining in just to throw a rock that might possibly kill a guy. Community-dispensed punishment could only be viable if only those who suffered were allowed to deal out suffering; otherwise you're just promoting sick behavior for no reason.

Jimbo Gomez
12-01-2005, 07:34 PM
There is the element of removing the threat of future crimes too jcs. A public hanging sends a very clear message, and Petr, any group of people who wish to do so can come and watch the execution.

Those among you who think that a public but clean execution does not go far enough are sick and perverted. I have no other words to describe you.

jcs
12-01-2005, 07:47 PM
There is the element of removing the threat of future crimes too jcs.
The only way to prevent future crimes is to remove those who would commit such crimes. The only way to remove such criminals is to wait for them to make their criminal nature known--to let them commit a crime. Deterrents do not work, simply because 'evil' still stirs in the hearts of those who are simply too cowardly to defy the law.
The inherent goodness of some men makes them more than the beast. Those men who are rendered manly only because of the polis and its laws are but werewolves.

Those among you who think that a public but clean execution does not go far enough are sick and perverted. I have no other words to describe you.
I agree, for the most part. However, one must think about those harmed by a crime. If the means of justice are removed from one's hands and given over to the state, even if 'justice is served,' one will be left feeling helpless, hollow, even. Sure, retribution cannot undo a wrong, but the satisfaction of killing one who has hurt a loved one (or oneself) would be a step in the right direction.

The Continuum of Satisfaction:
No justice --> Justice out of one's hands --> Retribution with one's hands --> Magically undo the crime

Seeing as both ends are out of the question, we're limited to state-justice and retribution. If someone killed someone for whom you cared, which would you prefer?

Petr
12-01-2005, 07:54 PM
The inherent goodness of some men makes them more than the beast. Those men who are rendered manly only because of the polis and its laws are but werewolves.

Once again you show just what sort of pick-and-choose nihilist you are. :p What's wrong with beastliness? What's this "inherent goodness" that you are talking about?


Petr

jcs
12-01-2005, 08:01 PM
Once again you show just what sort of pick-and-choose nihilist you are.
Once again, you show that you completely fail to understand anything I say.

What's wrong with beastliness? What's this "inherent goodness" that you are talking about?
'Beastliness' is detrimental to a community. Treat this as a conditional: if we want to have a healthy community (which is the presupposition of the whole damn thread, and all talks of law), then depraved behavior, 'evil' or 'beastliness,' should be done away with.
What I mean by 'inherent goodness' or 'beastliness' or whatever is the 'moral' component of an individual's inner character. A killer is a killer whether or not he's killing; one who desires to harm another is sick, and detering him from harming another causes his sick desires to persist.
(And I was using the questioned terms because, if you didn't catch it, I was playing with a saying of Aristotle, near as I could remember it)

Ambrosio Spinola
12-02-2005, 04:23 AM
I like how they did (or still do) in some latin american country where the rapist or some other scum would be handed over to the victim“s family to get machine gunned by them.

Banat
12-02-2005, 06:14 AM
I never heard we had any trouble with Albanian minority here. Criminals I do condemn, but oppose the generalization.

LOL! This man is a walking hypocrisy. Opposes the generalization... :rofl:

:nono:

Watzy
12-05-2005, 03:12 AM
LOL! This man is a walking hypocrisy.

I know several Albanians in my town and none of them is a criminal, while on the other hand I know only one Serb (a half-half mutt to be precise), who is well known to the police as a drug pusher and a thief. Should I conclude all Serbs are thieves and pushers?

Banat
12-05-2005, 01:02 PM
I too have nothing against Albanians in general (which may sound strange to many). There is a couple of Albanians in my town too, and they aren't criminals either, but law-abiding citizens.

I know several Albanians in my town and none of them is a criminal, while on the other hand I know only one Serb (a half-half mutt to be precise), who is well known to the police as a drug pusher and a thief. Should I conclude all Serbs are thieves and pushers?

No, you could only conclude that at least one "half-Serb" is a thief and a drug dealer.

BTW, a 'half-half mutt'? One negro parent perchance?

Watzy
12-05-2005, 07:22 PM
BTW, a 'half-half mutt'? One negro parent perchance?

No, a mongrel are out of place in Slavonija&Srijem, the land of Šokci-Croats. Serbs are equally foreign to Šokci ancestry as Inkas or Zulus or Han Chinese. If you don't believe me reed the history of East Slavonia&Srijem from the official pages of the diocese:

http://djakovo.hbk.hr/new/index.php?main=biskupija_povijest&rb=menu
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Banat
12-05-2005, 08:54 PM
Serbs are equally foreign to Šokci ancestry as Inkas or Zulus or Han Chinese.

Šokci (modern Croats) from Zvaci's area, Slavonia:
http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/3798/kudposavina4ci.jpg

Serbs from Banat's area, Banat, Serbia:
http://img492.imageshack.us/img492/7486/kud0166tc.jpg





How insane should one person be to call intermarriage of these two groups "racial mix", and their offspring as "mutts" ???

And to troll a thread about sex slavery with Serbo-Croatian "mutts" :rolleyes:

:cool:

Watzy
12-05-2005, 10:42 PM
How insane should one person be to call intermarriage of these two groups "racial mix", and their offspring as "mutts" ???

Actually it was quite commune in 19 century to identify nation with race. Hitler frequently used the term 'German race'. :rolleyes: