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Felix the Cat
12-01-2005, 05:09 AM
Chavez applauds Spain for 'resisting' US on arms (http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2005-11/28/content_498485.htm)

Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez on Sunday praised Spain for going ahead with a $1.56 billion sale of military ships and planes to his government despite U.S. concerns that it could destabilize the region.

Spanish Defense Minister Jose Bono was to arrive in Venezuela on Sunday to sign the deal for four coastal patrol ships, four corvettes, 10 C-295 transport planes and two maritime surveillance aircraft.

"I want to acknowledge King Juan Carlos ... and all of Spain for their firmness in resisting the imperialist government's attempt to trample over them," Chavez said on his regular broadcast. "Now they don't even want us to buy patrol boats and vessels to protect our coast and some transport planes."

A former army officer allied with Cuba, Chavez is at odds with Washington over his self-described socialist revolution and charges by U.S. officials that he has become a threat to stability in Latin America.

Flush with cash from high oil prices, Venezuela has sought out arms deals with Russia, Brazil and Spain to beef up its frontier security and modernize its armed forces. Russia is selling Caracas 100,000 Kalashnikov rifles and at least 10 military helicopters.

U.S. officials say they fear Venezuelan weapons could end up in the hands of FARC rebels in neighboring Colombia that Washington has listed as terrorists. Chavez denies charges from some U.S. and Colombian officials that he backs the guerrillas.

The U.S. ambassador to Spain said last week that Washington was still considering whether to allow Spain to sell aircraft with U.S. technology. The planes have 50 percent to 60 percent U.S. components and would therefore require a U.S. export license.

But Ambassador Eduardo Aguirre made clear the United States did not want the deal to proceed.

"We hope, in the end, that the transaction will not be carried out," he said. "We're worried that the sale could be a destabilizing factor in the region."

Jimbo Gomez
12-01-2005, 07:46 AM
That Spanish regime is horrible. Its amnesty for those wogs gave Europe a million more of them, it appears to be busy rewriting Spanish history and minimizing the mzrite of the glorious reconquista and now it sells arms to this awful bolshevik. If those goddamn terrorists had been caught before the trainattacks Spain wouldn't have had such assholes in power now. Correct me if I'm wrong ebus, but I don't think I am.

Ambrosio Spinola
12-01-2005, 09:26 AM
Its on public relations disaster after the next...sigh!

What our despicable socialist president has found in this Chavez POS is beyond me besides their mutual fascination with all things bolshevik (Zapatero boasted a few weeks ago to be proud to be a "Red"). While I also undertsand that what is being sold will definetly NOT destabilitze the region and that the US should for sure mind its own business on what the rest of the world does in terms of business, Spain has also sold a similar batch to Colombia which would possibily suffer more from this Venezuela deal.

Frankly...I´m NOT happy with what this Goverment is doing, inside and outside of its borders.

Felix the Cat
12-01-2005, 06:45 PM
http://www.cavok-aviation-photos.net/tlp200503/C295_T2105.jpg

Lenny
01-16-2006, 01:49 AM
Spain defies US on Venezuela deal

Spain has said it will go ahead with the sale of 12 military planes to Venezuela despite US objections.

However, the aircraft will be made with more expensive European parts because the US has blocked the use of its technology for Venezuela.

The US says Venezuela's Socialist President Hugo Chavez could use the planes to destabilise the region.

Both Madrid and Caracas have said the equipment - also including eight patrol boats - is for defensive purposes.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41066000/jpg/_41066868_arms203.jpg
The signing ceremony was attended
by Spain's defence minister (left)

Deputy Prime Minister Maria Teresa Fernandez de la Vega said Spain "did not share" the US reasons for blocking the deal.

She said the deal would create 1,000 Spanish jobs over the next few years.

Drug-trafficking

Mr Chavez has condemned the US position as "horrific imperialism," Reuters news agency reports.

The US accuses Mr Chavez of harassing the opposition and spreading instability across South America.

Madrid said the US decision was based on commercial interests and insisted it would not damage relations between the two countries.

Spanish Defence Minister Jose Bono travelled to Caracas last November to attend the signing of the deal with Mr Chavez.

Mr Chavez had said the patrol boats and military transport planes supplied by EADS-Casa will be used to combat drug-trafficking on the Colombian border.

Earlier this week, Venezuela accused Washington of blocking the purchase of training jets from Brazil, because the planes contained protected US technology.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4609696.stm

[note: cowcube posted this article two days ago but it was lost in the latest hack, I am re-posting it]

Lenny
01-16-2006, 02:11 AM
A NATO power giving weapons to Venezuela in 2006 is really just like a US ally in the early-mid 1840s giving lots of weapons to Mexico. We were clearly enemies with Mexico in the early-mid 1840s but we as a nation had not yet gone to war with them (the Mexican-American war broke out in 1848) [note: I don't think the US actually had any allies in the 1840s though], the same is true today, we are clearly enemies with Venezuela so why would our ally give them weapons :confused: :mad:

Some allies we've got in Spain, giving weapons to our enemies. Some of the European countries and Israel also give weapons to China I'm told

raven
01-16-2006, 02:16 AM
*sigh* I can not believe this. The Iberian governments do the opposite of what Iberians really want. They shouldn't be giving weapons to these anti-euro bastards. Didn't Mr. Chavez make a negative comment about a population that makes up about 10% of the world? He was obviously referring to Europeans. Spain shouldn't be trusting that commie. Btw you guys have a nationalist party in Spain right? What's it called? How are they doing?