Norway Mediates Israeli Withdrawal from Shebaa Farms

[Kriger]

It seems that Norway is taking an active role in mediating the withdrawal of Israelis from the Shebaa Farms. The area is still in dispute between Syria and Lebanon, and I am understanding this is being used by the Israelis as the reason they are still there.

http://www.naharnet.com/domino/tn/NewsDesk.nsf/0/4E0EB79BED7721FBC2257249006007B5?OpenDocument

Does anyone have any more information on this? I am also understanding that Norway is upgrading cooperation with Lebanon in oil exploration off the northern coast and help in training the Lebanese navy.

[///M power]

withdrawal? what for?
"peace" ?
if there could have been real peace with Syria maybe i would support it, but right now I dont see any reason to withdraw. they lost that land in war.

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withdrawal? what for?
"peace" ?
if there could have been real peace with Syria maybe i would support it, but right now I dont see any reason to withdraw. they lost that land in war.

I want the jews to all live in a greater Israel,and you zionist jews should ask youselves how you are going to acieve this. :) (I also think the persians should have their empire.)

You need the approval and the help of the western community to irradicate the Arabs, and to do this you need to change the perception of both race and muslimes in the white population.

Right now to many of you jews are playing on the multi-kulti violin in the west, and this has to stop, if you want to reach your goal.

[Jake Featherston]

It seems that Norway is taking an active role in mediating the withdrawal of Israelis from the Shebaa Farms. The area is still in dispute between Syria and Lebanon, and I am understanding this is being used by the Israelis as the reason they are still there.

My understanding (which may not be entirely correct) is that Shebaa Farms is a historic part of Lebanon. Israel claims its Syrian territory, which they occupy along with the Golan Heights (which really is Syrian) in order to be able to say they have withdrawn from Lebanon without having to withdraw from Shebaa Farms. Naturally, the Syrians are not displeased by the Israeli assertion that the territory belongs to them, but most objective analysts with a historical perspective regard it as Zionist-occupied Lebanese territory.

[///M power]

Europe is extremely leftist,your area actually is the worst type of leftist(Scandinavia).
Europe is liberal,Europe thinks you can make peace with Muslims and make them respect papers and agreements they sign because they are idiots and thats why they have so many muslims in their lands.
so Europe is trying to impose that filthy agenda on Israel,a nationalistic country that cannot be liberal like them,because we are surrounded by enemies.
they dont seem to get, but in anyways we dont need no one to help us over there in our little spot, since we have been doing that since 1948. our boarders got bigger every war because we won them(alone).
our country was in its largest size on 1967 after the big war with the arab countries.
eventually we gave out the land that we conquered from Egypt, for making peace with them,and to jordan,which worked out very well.
now Syria wants land back, but they know they cant take it by force because they are inferior, its war that made them lose that land in the first place. so they try to trick us by saying they want peace to get that land back,but we Jews aren't stupid. if it was real peace like with Jordan and Egypt then it would be dealt very differently.
right now they have no way to get their land back, and like our other neighbor Egypt had said in the Lebanon "situation",: "we will not get caught up in another war with Israel again for an interest of another country".
although we are talking about Syria,and its Syrian land,(before the war) they still would never go to war head to head because they have no chance.... but they do however fight us not directly but by arming Hizbala and transferring weapons from Iran to Lebanon.
so, the only way for them to get it back, is by whining about fake peace.
when countries go to war,they have to realize that there is chance they will lose land,or conquer new land. in this case,Syria ended up losing land. tough luck.... they should accept it.

[Kriger]

I've done a little looking into the history of the Shebaa Farms.

According to the enclosed link Syria has officially acknowledged the Farms are in Lebanon.

The governments of both Syria and Lebanon have agreed to demarcate their countries border after Israel withdraws from the region.

http://www.shebaafarms.org/briefhistory.html

As far as the "liberal" Scandinavian countries go, I would say that the people did not realize the reality of allowing certain types of immigrants into their country to live with them. Government officials live in communities isolated from the immigrants the laws support. What do they know? It would seem that any community that allows the immigrants to keep their cultural heritage, those ones of a different culture would respect that fact instead of working to change laws so that their culture is the law of the land. Hopefully all countries allowing immigration will address these problems instead of catering to the immigrants over the existing people/cultures.

In the meantime, Israel has no right to occupy Shebaa Farms. Aggressive wars to expand territory are supposed to be in contradiction of International law since World War II. There was a war with Iraq to keep this regime from forcefully occupying Kuwait.

The International laws that opposed Iraq's occupation of Kuwait are the same laws that Israel disregards.

While it is true that China disregarded the same laws when it "annexed" in a military fashion Tibet in the 1950's, it makes the forceful occupation no less right.

You can speak of war and it's ugly consequences, but the fact remains that Israel has no right in Shebaa Farms whether it belongs to Syria or Lebanon. In the meantime, Syria and Lebanon are resolving the matter working within the realms of International law and not in flagrant disregard of said laws.

[Björn]

Any western country you go to, MP, I can assure you you will find an ultra-liberal city, surrounded by an moderate suburbia which thus is encapsulated by a much larger region of conservative-yet-spread out rural area. That's why we all look liberal or progressive.

[Panzerfaust Boy]

I want the jews to all live in a greater Israel,and you zionist jews should ask youselves how you are going to acieve this. :) (I also think the persians should have their empire.)

You need the approval and the help of the western community to irradicate the Arabs, and to do this you need to change the perception of both race and muslimes in the white population.

Right now to many of you jews are playing on the multi-kulti violin in the west, and this has to stop, if you want to reach your goal.

i am afraid we must appreciate the great cultural difference between jews and ourselves. to them israel is just land. a bridgehead into the arabs oil wealt - its money and of no significant other meaning. holy land? fairytails!

erradicate arabs, erradicate aryans. both are equally rewarding glorious fun for the jew. he would'ent be capable of choosing between these two devious actions.

bloodthirst and blind, dumb luck brought him this far - and he is not about to stop, pounder and change his actions anytime soon.

:rofl: