Console or PC gaming?

[Ixtab]

Which do you prefer?

[Excorcism]

I'm a fan of both, but I'm normally a PC gamer.

[Atlas]

Neither. I sold my PS2 two years ago.

I liked GTA Vice City.

[Berianidze]

I don't really play games at all, but I do occassionally play my old N64; with such games as Goldeneye 007 and WWF No Mercy just for fun. I've never been into video games, and I've never played a game on the PC.

[Atlas]

with such games as Goldeneye 007

Yea, old one but still very good.

[Sinclair]

I like PCs. Why? Well, I'm looking at a new computer, 'twill be pricey, a little more than 4K.

Now, one could say "Dude, an XBOX 360/PS3 will be just as good/better for under 1k". But the error there is to get full use out of one of those (In fact, to get anything close to decent value for money...) one has to buy an HDTV. A high-range Plasma or LCD HDTV will cost a lot. A 50" Plasma HDTV can cost more than 6K. Whereas a high-quality LCD monitor will be in the low three digits.

If one wants to really get "XTR33M" or whatever, it's possible to really make computers powerful. Overclocking and such. I'm gonna stay away from that, because I don't know enough and I don't want to void the warranty. Maybe when I know more and the warranty's gone, I dunno.

Add to this that a computer can be used for more than just games. Show me XBOX Live porn, then we'll talk.

[The Retard]

I don't have the attention span to play games too long. I'll go with handheld games.

[Ixtab]

I prefer PC games from the 1980s and console games from the 1980s and early 1990s (mainly NES games). Since there are comparitively few PC games from the 1980s of any valuable, I voted 'Console games'.
PC games are good if you enjoy the strategy or simulation genres, but console games are the best for RPGs and side-scrollers.
Nowadays I only play console games, and that rarely.

[Sinclair]

PCs are great for RPGs. Fallout 1 and 2, Planescape: Torment, Arcanum, etc.

[Anarch]

It depends. I enjoy my Xbox but I'm going to go with PC games.

[Ixtab]

PCs are great for RPGs. Fallout 1 and 2, Planescape: Torment, Arcanum, etc.I suppose I just prefer the style in which the Japanese make RPGs. The character design, the type of story, the pacing, etc. That is probably why I prefer console RPGs (Japanese-made) over PC RPGs (usually American made).

[OVERWATCH]

I am an avid videogamer, and have been since the 80ies when I played Asteroids at the local Ontario's store, and various old games on my Apple™IIc.

Console games are limited in scope, imo.

[Ixtab]

What PC equivalents are there of Super Mario Bros 1-3, Final Fantasy 1, Kid Icarus, Zelda, Sonic, Space Invaders, Donkey Kong, and scores of other classic games? There have been none since the 1980s.
Nowadays PC games tend to be way too three-dimensional for my tastes. I suppose handheld gaming is best (Gameboy Advance), at least ever since games for the SNES ceased being produced.

[OVERWATCH]

What PC equivalents are there of Super Mario Bros 1-3, Final Fantasy 1, Kid Icarus, Zelda, Sonic, Space Invaders, Donkey Kong, and scores of other classic games? There have been none since the 1980s.
Nowadays PC games tend to be way too three-dimensional for my tastes. I suppose handheld gaming is best (Gameboy Advance), at least ever since games for the SNES ceased being produced.

You can always play them on emulators. Plus, modern console games are overwhelmingly 3-d, but they lack the large and seamless worlds that one finds on PC games.

[Ixtab]

You can always play them on emulators.:rolleyes:
ROMs are not included in the definition of "PC gaming". There are comparatively few original PC games of such high quality. There are no PC equivalents of such game developers as Squaresoft, Capcom, Nintendo, Namco, and so on.

Plus, modern console games are overwhelmingly 3-d, but they lack the large and seamless worlds that one finds on PC games.Yes, they are both way too three dimensional, and use way too many ugly polygonal graphics - PC games are the worst for that. Rarely ever are there made any new two-dimensional games of any quality; except for the Gameboy Advance, which falls under neither the console nor the PC gaming category.

[Hakluyt]

I am no xenophobe when it comes to RPGs (I especially have a soft spot for Chrono Trigger for the SNES) but I far prefer the form perfected by Black Isle for PC - Sinclair has already mentioned several of my favourite games.

[Excorcism]

I am no xenophobe when it comes to RPGs (I especially have a soft spot for Chrono Trigger for the SNES) but I far prefer the form perfected by Black Isle for PC - Sinclair has already mentioned several of my favourite games.

you mean awesome games like Fallout 1 and 2, and Planescape Torment?

Some other good ones are Morrowind, Baldur's Gate 2, and others I can't remember at the moment.

Still, Jotunluck has a point that they aren't similar to games like Xenogears or FF6

[Sinclair]

I don't like Final Fantasy myself... I really don't like any of the RPGs I've seen come out of Japan. I find myself disliking a lot of Japanese games, disliking a lot of anime and manga, and especially disliking douchebags who will buy anything from Dai Nippon because it's "kawaii" or whatever. (Not that I'm saying Ix is like that though). The stuff that's in because it's "cool", the effeminate male characters, etc. Pisses me off.

The 5 best RPGs in the world, in my opinion, in order:

1. Planescape-Torment
2. Fallout 2 (Fallout 1 also, though it's not as good as 2)
3. Arcanum
4. Knights of the Old Republic (2 is not as good, but hey, if you've got the time)
5. Betrayal at Krondor (Haven't played the sequels)

1-3 are quite open-ended, 4 is less so, 5 pretty much has a totally set plot, but there is a LOT of quests for you to do, lots to explore, great combat system, plus it's free online.

If it's not RPGs, the following games are good:

-Half-Life 1/2
-SimCity 4
-The Decisive Battles of WWII series, esp. Korsun Pocket
-Combat Mission series
-Deus Ex

[Ixtab]

I don't like Final Fantasy myself... I only really like Final Fantasy 1 for the NES. The rest of the FF games lack the original simplicity which made it a great game.

I really don't like any of the RPGs I've seen come out of Japan. I find myself disliking a lot of Japanese games,I find that video games in general, from Japan or any other country, are of very poor quality. In Japan this is just slightly less so. Very slightly--and it's attributable to the fact that they have Capcom, Nintendo, and Squaresoft. A decent, playable game is a rarity in any country, with the huge amount of crap that is daily produced.

disliking a lot of anime and manga, and especially disliking douchebags who will buy anything from Dai Nippon because it's "kawaii" or whatever.I couldn't agree with you more.
Although again--animation, comic books and films are generally utter crap in any country; it's not just manga/anime.
Very, very rarely do I find anything that is watching/playable.

[OVERWATCH]

Ix, what do you think about the Civilisation series and other turn based strategy games, they are 2d (don't know about civ4 though).

also in this genre:

Panzer general, I, II, III
Steel panthers

Re: 3d- there polygonal graphics are getting better and better, so much that if you have antialiasing 8x or so running on some newer games you can't detect the angularity hardly at all.

[Excorcism]

Ix, what do you think about the Civilisation series and other turn based strategy games, they are 2d (don't know about civ4 though).

also in this genre:

Panzer general, I, II, III
Steel panthers

Re: 3d- there polygonal graphics are getting better and better, so much that if you have antialiasing 8x or so running on some newer games you can't detect the angularity hardly at all.

I'm a fan of Panzer Generals 3 and I've played all four of the civilization games, but I need to update my computer to play civ 4 further.

[Felix the Cat]

PC.

Tweaking and customizing games is half the fun of having them

[Excorcism]

PC.

Tweaking and customizing games is half the fun of having them

Mods are one of the best things about PC games. They keep it going forever, that and new maps (Just look at Starcraft)

[Sinclair]

I've got the Sims 2, and it is very fun.

[1-800]

I just play BattleField 2 for the PC. Very fun.

[Ixtab]

Ix, what do you think about the Civilisation seriesUtter crap. Sense of history is almost completely wrong. I don't remember the details -- I just remembering disagreeing with their entire conception of how history proceeds. I believe it was Civilisation III.

Re: 3d- there polygonal graphics are getting better and better, so much that if you have antialiasing 8x or so running on some newer games you can't detect the angularity hardly at all.I prefer sprites. If made well, they always look good. Super Mario Bros 3 still looks good, after all these years. Super Mario World for the SNES is still a remarkably beautiful game. Polygons, on the other hand, always look ugly within a few years, even if at first they seem impressive and realistic. In five years even the best games now in production will look like complete crap. This simply doesn't happen with 2D graphics, at least in my perspective.
I also prefer the more the sound effects and music of old arcade games, NES games, and SNES games over the sound / music of modern PC games.

[RikuDrak]

I play both.

Although now PC more than console because I have no console :p
I like Final Fantasy games. I used to use console for FPS and RPG games, and then PC for RTS and then some random games I would find fun (Fallout 1 and 2 as an example).

Though recently I was introduced into Quake III : Threewave, and I absolutely love it. So if I had money I'd buy more FPS for the PC.

[brigadier Biggles]

PCs - you want the best games, the easiest simplest control, better sound + graphics, who the **** plays FPS on a console...

Consoles - owned a few, perfect thing for when you have some mates round or something, ideal party machine

[OVERWATCH]

Some other good ones are Morrowind,
Heh, I'm playing this now, it's not too shabby, not too shabby at all. ;)

I may be wrong, but wasn't jcs extolling this game also?

[Kodos]

Heh, I'm playing this now, it's not too shabby.

I may be wrong, but wasn't jcs extolling this game also?

You best give respect to Star Control II yo, submit or die bitch.

[Ahknaton]

PC hands down. My favourite genre is FPS and that sucks with a console controller.

[Lionheart]

I like to play shooters, and so I chose PC.

[IZVN]

I like PCs. Why? Well, I'm looking at a new computer, 'twill be pricey, a little more than 4K.

Now, one could say "Dude, an XBOX 360/PS3 will be just as good/better for under 1k". But the error there is to get full use out of one of those (In fact, to get anything close to decent value for money...) one has to buy an HDTV. A high-range Plasma or LCD HDTV will cost a lot. A 50" Plasma HDTV can cost more than 6K. Whereas a high-quality LCD monitor will be in the low three digits.

If one wants to really get "XTR33M" or whatever, it's possible to really make computers powerful. Overclocking and such. I'm gonna stay away from that, because I don't know enough and I don't want to void the warranty. Maybe when I know more and the warranty's gone, I dunno.

Add to this that a computer can be used for more than just games. Show me XBOX Live porn, then we'll talk.

Overclocking CPU's on modern computers is the most ignorant thing one can do. Back in the day of 33mhz-500mhz computers this was a viable option but with 4ghz an extra 50 to 100mhz is not worth frying your motherboard.

[Sinclair]

Overclocking CPU's on modern computers is the most ignorant thing one can do. Back in the day of 33mhz-500mhz computers this was a viable option but with 4ghz an extra 50 to 100mhz is not worth frying your motherboard.

Yeah, when I wrote that I hadn't read enough.

Now I've realised that processor overclocking isn't worth it most of the time. It's more about ''Oh look I OC'd my blah blah blah to 4.05 GHz I'm so cool''. Ditto most water-cooling: Air-cooling is enough for most things, and can be gotten pretty quiet (Also, there are really good surround headphones now). And if a computer is actually at dangerous heat levels, there's more wrong than the KIND of cooling.

EDIT: I also made a math error somewhere, my computer ended up being less than 4k Canadian.

[Lionheart]

Overclocking CPU's on modern computers is the most ignorant thing one can do. Back in the day of 33mhz-500mhz computers this was a viable option but with 4ghz an extra 50 to 100mhz is not worth frying your motherboard.
You can overclock much higher than 50-100mhz without "frying your motherboard." In fact, I've had my 1.7ghz cpu running at 2.2ghz for the last two years with no problems.

[raven]

Hmm I haven't an idea what I would vote for. I find Console and PC games to both have their ups and downs. Personally I am quite a nostalgic type of gamer. I'm not sure why but I tend to lose interest in newer games quicker than I do old games (which I thoroughly enjoy). Of course that's not always the case but yeah. For eg. I can play Guild Wars but then find it boring after awhile and then find myself loading up Chrono Trigger, FF6 or even FF1 at times. As for Baldur's Gate and games like that... I never really got into it... maybe its because I'm a D&D newbie. I don't know.

Either way I don't really find the time to play videogames these days much anymore. I've also noticed that for whatever reason my interest in videogames has been on and off since almost four years ago. There were times when I could really get into a game and kind of forget the outside world (lol) but other times where I just want something to do for a short period of time and lose interest quickly. I find myself tending to prefer shorter games these days.