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Jim West
01-08-2007, 09:06 PM
Nope, this isn't made up. Read it to believe it:


A Letter To Kevin Alfred Strom
[Thank you to April Gaede for the address:]

January 8, 2007

Kevin Alfred Strom
160 Peregory Lane
Charlottesville, VA 22902

Re: You Lose

Dear Kevin:

All the years you spent attacking my website, slandering me, back-biting, infighting, and trying to run me out of the movement – and where did you end up? A prison cell, no bail and a future with a long sentence in a place full of violent sexual abuse. You’re too old to survive the kind of years you’re facing – and, in time, the feds are going to take you out of segregated status and put you in with the general population – which will be more than happy to prey on you..

I look forward to you dying in jail, disgraced as a child pornographer, and I hope the feds’ investigation brings down every white activist who has ever had anything to do with you, you sick fuck. Your entire lie machine isn’t enough to cover this up, this time.

Sincerely,



Bill White, Commander
American National Socialist Workers’ Party
PO Box 8601
Roanoke, VA 24014

SOURCE: http://overthrow88.blogspot.com/ (http://overthrow88.blogspot.com/)

Jake Featherston
01-08-2007, 10:31 PM
Wow. I always knew Bill White was a lying asshole. I had no idea he was such a sadistic, worthless sack of shit. That's a genuinely despicable thing to do.

Starr
01-08-2007, 10:39 PM
yes, that was pretty low. Is it too much to ask for people to put their differences aside when something like this happens? In the very least if you can't bring yourself to speak a few decent words, just shutup. That would be the white thing to do.

Johnson
01-08-2007, 10:42 PM
In the very least if you can't bring yourself to speak a few decent words, just shutup. That would be the white thing to do.
rofl. You said it. Speak a few decent words or shut up. That would certainly be the white thing to do.

Thomas777
01-08-2007, 11:15 PM
White is a genuinely shitty person, and he is a hateful loser. He praised the murder of kids after the Columbine incident, so why is it any surprise that he would toss out this sort of vitrolic about Strom's potential sentence?

Mind you, I don't have any feelings positive or negative about Strom, but gleefully describing the sorts of indignities that might be faced by a middle aged White guy in a high security prison is pretty sick.

Anyway, White does this sort of thing so that people will pay attention to him...its the same reason why he dresses up in Nazi Halloween constumes. White is a 30 year old baby.

OVERWATCH
01-08-2007, 11:15 PM
:nuts:

infighting,
Pot -> Kettle -> Black

There are some real clowns I've ran across on the internut, but I don't think I could wish prison rape on any of them.

Sulla the Dictator
01-08-2007, 11:22 PM
Not so fast. How do we know that this isn't a ZOG FedGov false flag super operation meant to discredit Bill White and create a schism between Race Realists!?!?!?!?!!?!?

:viking: :viking: :viking: :viking:

Mike
01-08-2007, 11:26 PM
Bill White has outdone himself this time. This letter drips with gayness. By its vicious tone and content, you'd think that Bill White was the one getting divorced from Strom. I can almost hear the faux-southron accent, partially, but not completely, veiling the distinctly queer lisp: "Kevin you heartless bastard! First you pick Elisha over me, and then you attack my webthite?! Now you're going to pay!" This bitchy little whine would be almost laughable if not for this line:

I hope the feds’ investigation brings down every white activist who has ever had anything to do with you, you sick fuck.
Anyone who works with such a petty, emotionally incontinent, and vindictive character is a fool.

bardamu
01-09-2007, 12:17 AM
White is disgusting. I used to visit his gossip column because I enjoyed his writing style, but deleted it from my favorites a week or so ago, never to return.
I believe he is cointelpro, just like Strom said. He sure acts like it.

il ragno
01-09-2007, 12:31 AM
That this guy hasn't been arrested on trumped-up charges yet is clearer proof that ZOG Is Real than all the Zyklon-free masonry in Poland.

Thomas777
01-09-2007, 12:35 AM
That this guy hasn't been arrested on trumped-up charges yet is clearer proof that ZOG Is Real than all the Zyklon-free masonry in Poland.

I'm not one to indulge in conspiracy-mongering, but it is a bit peculiar that post-911, White regularly praised Islamic miscreants and called for the murder of members of law enforcement and the judiciary, yet he seems to have avoided any sort of antagonism from the authorities.

Sure, on the one hand White is an assclown that is impossible to take seriously, but on the other hand, some of his invective could most definately be interpreted as terrorist threats, as is statutorily defined. Its a rather curious thing.

il ragno
01-09-2007, 12:40 AM
It helps when your old man, mortified though your antics render him, is a wheel at the CIA.

Though I agree: it's strange. Then again, maybe not so strange when you consider most of his jackbooted 'exploits' are self-penned, uncorrobated and likely fictional.

Sulla the Dictator
01-09-2007, 12:43 AM
That this guy hasn't been arrested on trumped-up charges yet is clearer proof that ZOG Is Real than all the Zyklon-free masonry in Poland.

I think thats true of you too. That you haven't been set up by the FedGov ZOG Imperial apparatus and shipped to Secret Stalag 43 shows that you're one of their agents.

Thomas777
01-09-2007, 12:44 AM
It helps when your old man, mortified though your antics render him, is a wheel at the CIA.

I think its pretty clear that the manbaby Bill White's entire life has been a series of huffing, teary-eyed shrieks of "FUCK YOU, DAD!"

Though I agree: it's strange. Then again, maybe not so strange when you consider most of his jackbooted 'exploits' are self-penned, uncorrobated and likely fictional.
White's exploits are most definately as fictional as "a nigger's PhD" as you would say. That said, its a rather serious matter to advocate the murder of sitting judges and police officers, even if the proponent of such statements is powerless, impotent, and a total dick.

Thomas777
01-09-2007, 12:47 AM
I think thats true of you too. That you haven't been set up by the FedGov ZOG Imperial apparatus and shipped to Secret Stalag 43 shows that you're one of their agents.

Il Ragno is not human. He was a spyware program that became self-aware. He posseses the cunning wit of HL Mencken, the hip revolutionary disposition of Tyler Durden, the genius for organization of Adolf Hitler, and the carny perversity of Sid Haig.

For some reason, when Il Ragno became self-aware, he decided he was Italian. This has never been explained adequately.

il ragno
01-09-2007, 12:57 AM
Btw, I saw this posted on VNNF....one of the rare contributions there worth taking the time to read.

Ever turn on the TV and see all those pictures of little girls that the bearded guy shows when he's trying to get you to give money to Brazilians? Why is that saintly charity, but for Strom to use clothed prepubertal girls occasionally as poster children for White nationalism, is an excuse to kill him? "We can use little girls as poster children, but if you try it we'll kill you."

Socrates disapproved of anal intercourse (called it "base" in The Republic, in the Jowett translation) but also warned that people were going too far with fears of child molestation. A surgeon I knew in St. Louis once commented to his colleagues in the doctors' lounge: "Molested BY the priest? He was queer. HE was molesting the priest."

Fear of "child molestation" has some basis in reality - but so does "alien abduction". The Jews need a phobia they can use, so when someone is accused, Whites run away and hide because oh it's so terribly embarrassing and if I say anything I might be the next one they call a witch.

I think there are those who molest five year olds, but except, possibly, for Talmudic literalist Jews, this is rare. Did you know anyone in high school that you thought would molest a five year old? How come it seems to be true of everyone in pro-White politics, but no one in any other kind of politics? Maybe because it ISN'T true?

You probably knew guys who would have had sex with a sexually mature fourteen year old. But how big a crime can that be, when the female marital age with parental consent in many states was, at least until recently, 15, and the average age of puberty, even adjusting for race, in the US now is a year or two earlier than when 15 became the limit for marriage?

I expect to be arrested any day now, and for the news guy to be announcing that I'm accused of intentionally spreading mad cow disease (in Orwell's "1984", they made them confess to intentionally spreading syphilis), or helping reptilian extraterrestrials anal probe 100 million people, or casting magic spells. It's standard Jew-communist operating procedure to forget the truth, just keep piling on the lies.

Why would perverts feel uniquely compelled to become White nationalist leaders? That would seem to be the worst move a pervert could make. We're asked to believe that perverts usually keep a low profile, but occasionally commit suicide by becoming high profile White nationalist leaders. Never a high profile anything else - never a commie, Libertoon, or feminist. Never any other method of suicide - never by car, gun or rope. What are the odds?

Frank Collin (Cohn), Martin Lindstedt, Kevin Strom - and before WWII, the son of a leader of the Silver Shirts (couldn't frame the dad because he had almost no contact with kids, but the son was required to attend public school, so couldn't avoid a frameup). Yep, if you're a "racist", you're a pervert, and you should be locked up and raped in the ass until you die (Qajar Turkman Aqa Khan killed his Zand, i.e., Kurd, rival - but had him gang-raped in the ass and blinded first).

Unless it's easier for the public to believe that your right hand man got mad at you and shot you from a rooftop (George Lincoln Rockwell). Or unless it's easier for the public to believe that somebody just happened to swerve into oncoming traffic and kill you in a head-on (Missouri associate circuit Judge Brown who supported militias) (retired British air force general Sir Peter Horsley claimed that such rigging of cars was standard operating procedure). Or unless it's easier for the public to believe that your bodyguard was a drunk maniac, and that the main witness to the use of the "strobe weapon", killed himself and then locked himself in his trunk (Princess Diana, who died for choosing an Arab instead of a Jew).

The Jews would have stoned Strom to death in his own driveway and run around with his head on a stick if they could have gotten away with it. But about 1/3 of the White population is still naive enough to believe the lies of the Jews, so the Jews still think it's smart to tell some lies when they kill one of us.

il ragno
01-09-2007, 12:59 AM
I think thats true of you too. That you haven't been set up by the FedGov ZOG Imperial apparatus and shipped to Secret Stalag 43 shows that you're one of their agents.

Is there anyone who meets you in real life who doesn't want to punch you in the mouth within the first ten seconds?

that guy
01-09-2007, 01:14 AM
[From vnn]:
Why would perverts feel uniquely compelled to become White nationalist leaders? That would seem to be the worst move a pervert could make. We're asked to believe that perverts usually keep a low profile, but occasionally commit suicide by becoming high profile White nationalist leaders. Never a high profile anything else - never a commie, Libertoon, or feminist. Never any other method of suicide - never by car, gun or rope. What are the odds?

Just curious -- how many WN leaders were accused of such behavior? I know Martin was, and obviously Strom too. Also, is it really true that commies, Libertoons, feminists, or "high profile anything else" guys are never accused of similar acts?

As for Bill White's letter -- the letter says nothing about Strom, and everything about White.

Thomas777
01-09-2007, 01:19 AM
Just curious -- how many WN leaders were accused of such behavior? I know Martin was, and obviously Strom too. Also, is it really true that commies, Libertoons, feminists, or "high profile anything else" guys are never accused of similar acts?

As for Bill White's letter -- the letter says nothing about Strom, and everything about White.

I don't think that Strom was framed. People who are immersed in hostile dissolution of marriage proceedings are accused of sexual impropriety and even sexual offenses by their estranged spouses with alarming regularity. Plus, Strom may in fact be guilty of the conduct alleged. As I said, I am going to reserve judgment on the matter until more facts are revealed. I assume that Strom is not guily, and he is entitled to that presumption...but as I said, I am not going to presume that he was investigated and indicted without probable cause.

However, being charged with a sexual offense sticks to a person like crazy glue...even if he is ultimately acquitted...and these sorts of offenses are difficult to prove but they are also difficult to defend against. I do not doubt that people (of varying dissident stripes) have been maliciously prosecuted so as to forever impugn their repuation and character.

il ragno
01-09-2007, 01:19 AM
Well for instance, who knew about Allen Ginsburg until after he was dead?

Well, all of his associates and friends, who closed ranks and kept it as sotto-voce as possible.

However, being charged with a sexual offense sticks to a person like crazy glue...even if he is ultimately acquitted
It is clear that even among the online Nutzi community, Strom will be forever referred to as a babyfucker by a certain percentage regardless.

And sure, everyone accused of something might have done it, but how much stock can you put in "learned opinions" like well he always did have that wimpy face/unmanly speaking voice/wore color-coordinated outfits/knew what a "salad fork" was, which set my antenna off right away.

Fade the Butcher
01-09-2007, 01:32 AM
White is disgusting. I used to visit his gossip column because I enjoyed his writing style, but deleted it from my favorites a week or so ago, never to return.
I believe he is cointelpro, just like Strom said. He sure acts like it.

Back off. How dare you insult the World Commander of National Socialists in such a fashion!

that guy
01-09-2007, 01:39 AM
Well for instance, who knew about Allen Ginsburg until after he was dead?

I still don't really know, though I remember his name was thrown about (probably on vnn). I gather he was a child molester, then?

Of course I realize that there is a bias against WNism in the media. But from the post that you quoted (from vnn) it would look like the history of this is much more than Martin and Strom vs Ginsburg. I realize that you have probably not studied this issue, so you might not have an answer, but as far as I know, Martin Lindstedt and Strom are the only "prominent" WNs to be accused of such things, and well, Lindstedt might not even really be considered "prominent". Was Lindstedt's trial big news in the media? Is Strom big news? Is it really true that Commies, Feminists, Libertarians, and the like are never accused?

All I'm saying is that there is a difference between bias against WNism (which is undeniable), and what the poster that you quoted has claimed.

Thomas777
01-09-2007, 01:44 AM
I still don't really know, though I remember his name was thrown about (probably on vnn). I gather he was a child molester, then?

Of course I realize that there is a bias against WNism in the media. But from the post that you quoted (from vnn) it would look like the history of this is much more than Martin and Strom vs Ginsburg. I realize that you have probably not studied this issue, so you might not have an answer, but as far as I know, Martin Lindstedt and Strom are the only "prominent" WNs to be accused of such things, and well, Lindstedt might not even really be considered "prominent". Was Lindstedt's trial big news in the media? Is Strom big news? Is it really true that Commies, Feminists, Libertarians, and the like are never accused?

All I'm saying is that there is a difference between bias against WNism (which is undeniable), and what the poster that you quoted has claimed.

Frank Colin was convicted of several counts of child molestation...however, he was a loose-cannon, even in Nutzi circles.

John Patler was consistently portrayed as a jilted homosexual...this was actually parodied in the film The Blues Brothers. Those are the two examples of sexual impropriety as cited against members of subversive, Neo-Nazi organizations that spring to my mind.

that guy
01-09-2007, 01:56 AM
Frank Colin was convicted of several counts of child molestation...however, he was a loose-cannon, even in Nutzi circles.
Apparently he was also at least half Jewish. :eek:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Collin


John Patler was consistently portrayed as a jilted homosexual...this was actually parodied in the film The Blues Brothers. Those are the two examples of sexual impropriety as cited against members of subversive, Neo-Nazi organizations that spring to my mind.

The guy that killed Rockwell?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Patler

I'm pretty sure that there were one or two homosexual commies, too, though. :eek:

Thomas777
01-09-2007, 02:03 AM
Apparently he was also at least half Jewish. :eek:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Collin
I have heard that. Colin was sort of infamous around here for a long while, as he orchestrated the Skokie march. When I was a kid, people still discussed the event, and attendant legal precedent frequently. Colin became famous beyond his relevance on account of these antics. He was sort of like Bill White, except he managed to capture the enduring attention of Chicago media for months.




The guy that killed Rockwell?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Patler

I'm pretty sure that there were one or two homosexual commies, too, though. :eek:


That is the guy. The running narrative of that bizarre affair is that Patler was a homosexual whose advances were explcitly or implicitly "snubbed" by Rockwell. I have no idea if this is true or not, but the correspondance between Rockwell and Patler that was introduced into evidence at the latter's trial seems very strange and somewhat suggestive (at least on Patler's end). Who knows what motivates disturbed people to commit homicide...I wouldn't be surprised if the narrative contained a modicum of truth, but who knows? The point is , to me at least, that this notion of sexual deviancy attending radical, rightist politics has become an enduring, and defining meme in the public consciousness. Many things could be extrapolated from that...

Janus
01-09-2007, 02:14 AM
What an asshole.

il ragno
01-09-2007, 02:17 AM
Well the reason I quoted the VNNF post was twofold: first, the guy makes a good point re why would a serial pedophile choose the radioactive WN world to "hide" in; secondly (and he never explicitly says this) child sex abuse is generally couched in terminolgy that infers grown men and prepubescent little kids, although it's extremerly rare, because the far likelier scenario - adults and under-18 teenagers - is one that makes us uncomfortable....and it's easier to work up Old Testament moral outrage for the slam-dunk of 30-year-old diddling 7-year-old.

And it is. There are pervs who doubtless abuse very young children, and they should be strapped promptly into Old Sparky and given a lightning-ride. But the politicizing of the issue has led to the definition of "child" extending to 17-year-olds, and that makes for some interesting arguments.....with a lot of folks condemning as subhuman predation what in many cases their parents and grandparents were doing with the blessings of church and community 50 and 100 years ago, when 15-year-olds getting married to young men in their 20s (and older) were commonplace.

It's a little like the 'pedophile priest' scandal. You read up on these cases and the "children" are invariably 15, 16 and 17 - while that in no way exonerates the priests, it's a FAG scandal, not a 'pedophile' scandal. (Which is why no married Republican or Democrat need ever worry about his well-hidden stack of Abercrombie & Fitch catalogs landing him in the same space "white nationalist pedophiles" like Strom currently occupy.)

albion
01-09-2007, 02:18 AM
http://www.nsm88.com/photos/congress06/23a.jpg http://www.nsm88.com/images/imgp5159.jpghttp://www.nsm88.com/images/imgp5186.jpg http://eer-music.com/pics2/hitler.jpg

Thomas777
01-09-2007, 02:27 AM
Well the reason I quoted the VNNF post was twofold: first, the guy makes a good point re why would a serial pedophile choose the radioactive WN world to "hide" in; secondly (and he never explicitly says this) child sex abuse is generally couched in terminolgy that infers grown men and prepubescent little kids, although it's extremerly rare, because the far likelier scenario - adults and under-18 teenagers - is one that makes us uncomfortable....and it's easier to work up Old Testament moral outrage for the slam-dunk of 30-year-old diddling 7-year-old.

And it is. There are pervs who doubtless abuse very young children, and they should be strapped promptly into Old Sparky and given a lightning-ride. But the politicizing of the issue has led to the definition of "child" extending to 17-year-olds, and that makes for some interesting arguments.....with a lot of folks condemning as subhuman predation what in many cases their parents and grandparents were doing with the blessings of church and community 50 and 100 years ago, when 15-year-olds getting married to young men in their 20s (and older) were commonplace.

It's a little like the 'pedophile priest' scandal. You read up on these cases and the "children" are invariably 15, 16 and 17 - while that in no way exonerates the priests, it's a FAG scandal, not a 'pedophile' scandal. (Which is why no married Republican or Democrat need ever worry about his well-hidden stack of Abercrombie & Fitch catalogs landing him in the same space "white nationalist pedophiles" like Strom currently occupy.)

Its an odd thing, isn't it?

You made the point some months ago about the Pandora's Box character of pedophilia, within the context of the contemporary Western zeitgeist. On the one hand, fears of 'pedophilia', and a sort of over-definition of proscribed conduct has become increasingly commonplace...on the other hand, pedophilic sorts of memes seem to be saturating media culture these days. You used the example of Abercombie and Fitch photo spreads, and that is on-point. This sort of thing came to my mind recently when I was hanging out with my buddy who is an adjunct on the faculty of the Art Institute and his equally weird, avant-garde wife. We watched this flick called The Heart is Deceitful Above All Things, that starred Asia Argento and these two kids from one of those awful Disney Channel shows...the kids looked about 10 or 11 years old. Anyway, this flick is based on the book that prompted the J.T. Leroy scandal in literary circles, and its premise is basically about how this whore turns out this little kid and the entire process by which his conception of himself as a male child is gutted after being assfucked repreatedly by meth-addled Johns. I mean this film made me really queasy...it was so damn graphic...and I am a veteran of Mondo cinema.

It begs the question as to how something can simultaneously be cast as an unspeakable taboo, but at the same time eroticised all throughout visual and literary culture.

ActionAlert
01-09-2007, 02:30 AM
I volunteer to host a big party when Bill White finally gets HIS neck in a noose. Oh what a time we will have.

albion
01-09-2007, 02:40 AM
http://www.nsm88.com/photos/congress06/17.jpg
- - Bill White - - - - Colonel Hoff - - - - von Bluvens

Thomas777
01-09-2007, 02:46 AM
I know I've raised the issue before, but does it tweak out anybody else that Bill White is a veritable doppelganger of Todd Brendan Fahey/Funderbunked?

Sulla the Dictator
01-09-2007, 02:57 AM
Btw, I saw this posted on VNNF....one of the rare contributions there worth taking the time to read.

Yeah, pretty spectacular in its lack of value. Congrats on that tripe.

"Child molestation is something to worry about, sure. So is alien abduction."

CLEVER point. GOOD analysis. Well done old boy.

Sulla the Dictator
01-09-2007, 02:59 AM
Is there anyone who meets you in real life who doesn't want to punch you in the mouth within the first ten seconds?

No one wants to harm me, il ragno. :)

Do you think Michael Jackson was a WN? He was also framed for these crimes.

il ragno
01-09-2007, 03:07 AM
No one wants to harm me, il ragno. :)


No, of course not. I forgot that when people first meet you, you're invariably trying to sell them something.

il ragno
01-09-2007, 03:14 AM
From Roger Ebert's review for THE HEART IS DECEITFUL:

How should this movie be approached? As an exploitation of child abuse? As a fearless portrait of a childhood in hell? As an acting and filmmaking enterprise pushed to heroic extremes? "The Heart is Deceitful Above All Things" is the unrelenting story of a little boy torn away from a loving foster home at the age of 7, and subjected for years to a series of physical and psychological cruelties. There is no redemption, no surcease, and as the film ends the barbarity continues. This film made me intensely uncomfortable, but that was its intention.

The material is drawn by short stories by JT LeRoy, whose work was widely considered to be autobiographical -- the memories of an abused boy who grew up to become a prostitute and finally spilled out all his remembered pain in thinly disguised fiction. As it turns out, the fiction was more heavily disguised than its admirers realized: "JT LeRoy" now appears to be a 40-year-old woman named Laura Albert, and when "LeRoy" appeared in public he was played by Savannah Knoop, the half sister of Albert's lover. With wigs, hats and dark glasses, Knoop succeeded in playing a man by presenting LeRoy as a man willing to be seen as a woman. There is probably another movie here somewhere, maybe "Transamerica meets James Frey."

Richard Parker
01-09-2007, 03:46 AM
:nuts:


Pot -> Kettle -> Black

There are some real clowns I've ran across on the internut, but I don't think I could wish prison rape on any of them.

I wouldn't wish prison rape on anyone, even the criminals we see on the news. The sentence is their punishment and they deserve proper protection while on the inside.

The fact that it happens at all is a disgrace.

Moreover, the way so many "law-and-order" types take glee in it (including people on our boards and yes, that includes antis as well) is simply creepy.

JohnAFlynn
01-09-2007, 09:58 AM
Wow. I always knew Bill White was a lying asshole. I had no idea he was such a sadistic, worthless sack of shit. That's a genuinely despicable thing to do.

Indeed. My opinion of White had actually improved in recent months, but this sort of thing shows his true character. Anyone who revels in kicking people while they are down, is either a jew, or a sick fucker like George W. Bush. (http://www.thephora.net/forum/showpost.php?p=280246&postcount=6)

JohnAFlynn
01-09-2007, 10:02 AM
Not so fast. How do we know that this isn't a ZOG FedGov false flag super operation meant to discredit Bill White and create a schism between Race Realists!?!?!?!?!!?!?

:viking: :viking: :viking: :viking:


It is a ZOG false flag. And Bill White is running it.

JohnAFlynn
01-09-2007, 10:05 AM
Bill White has outdone himself this time. This letter drips with gayness. By its vicious tone and content, you'd think that Bill White was the one getting divorced from Strom. I can almost hear the faux-southron accent, partially, but not completely, veiling the distinctly queer lisp: "Kevin you heartless bastard! First you pick Elisha over me, and then you attack my webthite?! Now you're going to pay!" This bitchy little whine would be almost laughable if not for this line:


Anyone who works with such a petty, emotionally incontinent, and vindictive character is a fool.


Indeed, and if you translate what Bill says, it means that he wishes that anyone who was a member of Dr. Pierce's National Alliance be "brought down" by "the Feds." If this letter from White doesn't show that he is an ENEMY to our people, after all of his VNN-related bullshit, and then his destruction of the NSM, etc., then I don't know what more evidence one would need.

JohnAFlynn
01-09-2007, 10:09 AM
That this guy hasn't been arrested on trumped-up charges yet is clearer proof that ZOG Is Real than all the Zyklon-free masonry in Poland.


:rofl:


And hey. what about the possibility that Bill White sent some sort of email with spyware that downloaded a child porn image to KAS' computer? I think, especially in light of this hateful letter, that this could be a real possibility. There are a plethora of potential suspects for Kevin's defense attorney to Plan B in this scenario. The more I think about it, I almost wish the guy could hire me. I think it would be fun.

Leshrac
01-09-2007, 10:22 AM
What i will never understand is why people always start letters or comments with polite formulas bullshit then work on to insult.

JohnAFlynn
01-09-2007, 10:45 AM
It begs the question as to how something can simultaneously be cast as an unspeakable taboo, but at the same time eroticised all throughout visual and literary culture.

Here's a semi-independent film that came out in 2006:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0424136/

Plot Outline: A mature 14-year old girl meets a charming 32-year old photographer on the Internet. Suspecting that he is a pedophile, she goes to his home in an attempt to expose him.

http://www.clearblueskyfilms.com/Images/clips/hard_candy_clip4.jpg

Jim West
01-09-2007, 03:33 PM
JAF: Anyone who revels in kicking people while they are down, is either a jew, or a sick fucker like George W. Bush.Your "jewnoia" is downright idiotic, and is a major falsehood that impedes the efforts to preserve a white majority in this country. On VNN, where you used to be one major asshole of a mod, many of the so-called whites on that forum "reveled in kicking people while they where down" as evidenced by their foaming glee over Michael Jackson's prison fate of incessant butt-raping had he been convicted. Get that, JAF? WNs smacking their lips in the fervent hope that Michael Jackson would be viciously raped while he was in prison, which, of course, would no doubt have happened. So stuff your "jewnoia" that only jews and jew lackeys like George Bush "revel" in wishing rape on someone going to prison, be they white, black, beaner, chink, or jew. WHITES "REVEL" TOO, YOU FOAMING MORON. And you not knowing that only serves to reveal the huge chasm in your mind over how human nature works in people of all races and ethnicities. No wonder cretins like you continue to blindly ask why we are losing. It's because you view people only as cardboard cut-outs. Understand your enemy, they say. You and your ilk never have.

il ragno
01-09-2007, 04:03 PM
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Fitz
01-09-2007, 04:11 PM
...On VNN, where you used to be one major asshole of a mod, many of the so-called whites on that forum "reveled in kicking people while they where down" as evidenced by their foaming glee over Michael Jackson's prison fate of incessant butt-raping had he been convicted. Get that, JAF? WNs smacking their lips in the fervent hope that Michael Jackson would be viciously raped while he was in prison, which, of course, would no doubt have happened.

Shit, I don't know about that Jim, what makes you so sure? Would you have butt-sex with Michael Jackson? :rofl:

JohnAFlynn
01-09-2007, 04:47 PM
Your "jewnoia" is downright idiotic, and is a major falsehood that impedes the efforts to preserve a white majority in this country. On VNN, where you used to be one major asshole of a mod, many of the so-called whites on that forum "reveled in kicking people while they where down" as evidenced by their foaming glee over Michael Jackson's prison fate of incessant butt-raping had he been convicted. Get that, JAF? WNs smacking their lips in the fervent hope that Michael Jackson would be viciously raped while he was in prison, which, of course, would no doubt have happened. So stuff your "jewnoia" that only jews and jew lackeys like George Bush "revel" in wishing rape on someone going to prison, be they white, black, beaner, chink, or jew. WHITES "REVEL" TOO, YOU FOAMING MORON. And you not knowing that only serves to reveal the huge chasm in your mind over how human nature works in people of all races and ethnicities. No wonder cretins like you continue to blindly ask why we are losing. It's because you view people only as cardboard cut-outs. Understand your enemy, they say. You and your ilk never have.

#1, you can't attribute any reaction to Michael Jackson to me, as I always believed him to be innocent and subject to a frame up job, and stated so on VNN.

#2, I don't remember EVER reading any White person on VNN fantasizing about Jackson getting raped. If I had, I would have called them out on that as a sicko, just like Bill White.

#3, "jewnoia" has nothing to do with this. I didn't call BW a jew, and I don't believe him to be so, unlike some others. I believe him to be a sick fuck, but I stated people who engage in such behavior are either sick fucks or jews, because it's true.

Starr
01-09-2007, 10:08 PM
John Flynn you think Michael Jackson is innocent? Who was he framed by and for what purpose(money?)

In the very least he is a very strange man, who seems to prefer the company of children, which seems odd. I remember he said once in that femmy little voice of his "if there were no children I would not want to live":rofl:
I don't honestly know what to make of him. If he is a nutter and a pedophile. Or if he is just extremely eccentric, possibly the strange result of a child star who became a man before he was allowed to live and be a child in the proper fashion(who became stuck in this odd grown man yet child like character):confused:

JohnAFlynn
01-09-2007, 10:25 PM
John Flynn you think Michael Jackson is innocent? Who was he framed by and for what purpose(money?)

In the very least he is a very strange man, who seems to prefer the company of children, which seems odd. I remember he said once in that femmy little voice of his "if there were no children I would not want to live":rofl:
I don't honestly know what to make of him. If he is a nutter and a pedophile. Or if he is just extremely eccentric, possibly the strange result of a child star who became a man before he was allowed to live and be a child in the proper fashion(who became stuck in this odd grown man yet child like character):confused:


I believe that Michael Jackson is mentally a child and never grew up, because he didn't have to. And in remaining a child mentally has always preferred the company of children socially. When we were kids, we hung around other kids, who were our peers. These kids, are Michael Jackson's peers. I believe that he has hung out with way too many kids to have been accused of molestation only twice. Now, that being said, I wouldn't let my kids hang out with him, but then again, the standard for letting your kids be around someone is if you know them very well and are absolutely sure they won't harm them, while to convict someone criminally, you have to be certain beyond a reasonable doubt that they are guilty. Since it was a he said/she said case, the State clearly could not make reasonable doubt.

Mike
01-09-2007, 10:36 PM
A WN who thinks Wacko Jacko got a raw deal? Now I've heard it all. No offense intended, counselor :)

Starr
01-09-2007, 10:41 PM
I believe that he has hung out with way too many kids to have been accused of molestation only twice.

I thought about that a few times, also. It is very possibly that the parents of the first kid were going after some kind of settlement, which they got and the second kid saw their chance in that. You would think if he truly were a pedophile he would have molested many more and more of them would have come forward. It is also possible, though, that he targetted very few and specific children.

OVERWATCH
01-10-2007, 12:21 AM
I wouldn't wish prison rape on anyone, even the criminals we see on the news. The sentence is their punishment and they deserve proper protection while on the inside.

The fact that it happens at all is a disgrace.

Moreover, the way so many "law-and-order" types take glee in it (including people on our boards and yes, that includes antis as well) is simply creepy.

I agree. It does not speak well of supposedly civilised men to allow perverted 'justice' to be meted out by the decree and whim of prison strongmen and others who are the dregs of humanity. Prisons should serve as corrective and utilitarian facilities, not sadistically punitive ones.

ActionAlert
01-10-2007, 03:19 PM
One thing I noticed about his website. He goes out of his way to encourage responses to his postings. Rarely does anyone bother to sign up and respond to his vain attempts for attention. His forum is stagnate. He boasts about website hits, but much like an accident on the highway, we are all just gawkers at his outrageousness. No one will commit to even signing up for his "blog" to respond. I imagine most (myself included) are hesitant to give any kind of personal information like an email address and IP address to someone who gossips eveything he hears like an elderly woman with nothing better to do. Anything you say to Bill White can and will be used against you in the court of public opinion.

Jake Featherston
01-11-2007, 06:30 AM
I still don't really know, though I remember his name was thrown about (probably on vnn). I gather he was a child molester, then?


Ginsburg was secretly a member of the North American Man-Boy Love Association (sorry Sulla, I'm not providing a link), or "NAMBLA," for many years. He also wrote of his belief that all sexually healthy men have sexual desires for small boys, and that those who claim they don't are either abnormally repressed or lying. I don't think its too far-fetched to suspect that had he not been Jewish, his shelf-life as a respected writer would have expired at the time these facts came to light. Or perhaps just being a leftist homosexual was enough....

Jake Featherston
01-11-2007, 06:35 AM
I'm pretty sure that there were one or two homosexual commies, too, though. :eek:

Yes, but in all fairness, WNs, Nazis, etc., aren't really supposed to be fags. Commies can pretty much do whatever they want in that regard.

Jake Featherston
01-11-2007, 06:38 AM
this notion of sexual deviancy attending radical, rightist politics has become an enduring, and defining meme in the public consciousness. Many things could be extrapolated from that...

Let's not forget Patient Zero of this phenomenon ie., Ernst Rohm.

Jake Featherston
01-11-2007, 06:44 AM
http://www.nsm88.com/photos/congress06/17.jpg

To Bill White's credit, he does appear to be the only one in that photo who couldn't benefit from having access to a box of Depends....

JohnAFlynn
01-31-2007, 07:23 AM
A WN who thinks Wacko Jacko got a raw deal? Now I've heard it all. No offense intended, counselor :)

He didn't get a raw deal. He was acquitted.

Captain Marinesko
01-31-2007, 09:46 AM
As a WN leader or celebrity, your goal has to be either money, attention, or both. Since it's a small demographic, you need to fight the other celebrities to maintain or expand your slice of the pie. That's why the hilarious shifts in power and infighting happens. I remember, for example, when Strom was still on the side of the NA, diligently engaging in the defense of Gliebe's organization, as well as helping to fight criticism. Then Strom finally left, starts his organization, and suddenly people were ready to line up behind him- all was forgiven. What's more is NAHQ countered with claims that they "always had problems with Strom, he was a possible homosexual, etc." Normal people would ask, "if that were the case, why did it take so long to get rid of him?"

It's sheer idiocy.

il ragno
01-31-2007, 08:23 PM
Bitch Tits as viewed through the eyes of his former buddies on the extreme left, who appear to be constructing a website dedicated to him (most of which is either 'under construction', or abandoned like a crack baby).

I must say, looking at his recent Supreme Commandant of the Fourth Reich photos, he's aged quite a bit these last 7-8 years, going from a bearded and bereted Anton Lavey Jr look to his current 50-year-old hardware-store manager style. He's actually 29 years old, though you'd hardly know it to look at him.

http://www.overthrow.com/billpost.jpg http://www.nsm88.com/images/imgp5186.jpg

The Anti-Bill White Network
By Nicole Nichols

It's easy to dismiss those on the extremist right as "Whacko" or "Nuts" or "Insane." The truth of the matter is, however, that the vast majority would not meet the criteria set for mental illness. Sadly, the vast majority are perfectly sane with outrageous views. Every once in awhile, however, someone emerges who defies all claims of sanity. Such is the case with Bill White.

We are not profiling Bill White because he poses a threat as a racist or anti-semitist. While he spews the rhetoric and the venom, it is questionable how much he really believes in what he is saying and how much he says these things just for attention. In reality, Bill White doesn't fit into any boxes. He is not an adherent to any organization or ideology. He simply flies by the seat of his pants reinventing himself along the way. That he has chosen the racist right to hitch his wagon to isn't surprising since he could never lean far enough left or be honest enough in his endeavors to fit in among the anarchists he initially chose. We are profiling Bill White because we believe that he is a dangerous man who will do ANYTHING to get attention, who will do ANYTHING to be accepted, and who might do ANYTHING if he fails.

It has been reported that as a youth Bill White was a troubled person. Though intelligent and articulate, White seemed to always be in trouble. At an early age, White started developing an interest in political issues and it has been reported by a middle school teacher that he would debate "anything and everything." While this could be construed as a helthy intellectual exercise, in White's case he simply became more and more aggressive in his questioning and served no other purpose than to be disruptive in the classroom. Generally, youths engaging in such overtly disruptive acts are seeking attention and recognition. Once he entered high school, according to research compiled by One People's Project, the aggression displayed in middle school debate escalated to a physical confrontation with a female teacher for which he received a three day suspension.

White attended three different high schools where he engaged in disruptive and aggressive behaviors throughout. It is reported that in his last school he was voted "Most Likely to Appear on America's Most Wanted," an honor he apparently is trying to live up to in his daily escapades today.

After high school, White attended Montgomery College for a year and then moved to the University of Maryland. Interestingly enough, and perhaps most compelling, is the fact that White was studying psychology and expressed a desire to work with troubled teens. Considering Bill's own problems as a youth, this, in and of itself, is not too surprising. His approach, however, to providing help for those children in need, however, is most troublesome.

In February of 1996, White was supposedly told by the friends of a young, emotionally disturbed teenager, that the girl was suffering abuse at the hands of her parents. Apparently they gave White all of the girl's personal information. It took White no time at all to begin posting messages to various groups on the internet about the rumored situation. Within minutes, readers were urged to call the parents and "tell her you are disgusted and you demand that she stops." Subsequently, threatening phone calls unnerved the girls parents. In an article that appeared in the Washington Post,it was revealed that much of the information shared with White by the girls friends, came from a highly confidential counseling session, and that the young lady was being seen for emotional problems. The family became extremely distraught over the invasion of their privacy and the threatening phone calls. In an interview with White, the Post quoted him as saying:

"You should be able to write what you want on the Internet, whether it's true or not."

Apparently, Bill White still believes that statement today.

Concurrently, White was honing his own brand of anarchist thought - a lot of which centered around teens. White founded the "Utopian Anarchist Party" and set forth an agenda to "eliminate the government of the United States and not replace it." Two of the stated goals were "the elimination of coerce public schooling and the elimination of coercive juvenile psychiatry." Additionally, White and a couple of his cohorts started the "Runaway Railway," a shelter for runaway teens. On his UAP website, White published the following message:

"To the dismay of the police and the media (Washington Post, July 26, 1996, page A1) the Utopian Anarchist Party has initiated a program to assist young people who have been abandoned or forced to leave their homes. If you are young and alone and have nowhere to go, or if your parents are trying to lock you up or otherwise abuse you, contact the Utopian Anarchist Party and we'll do whatever we can to help you, regardless of state or local laws. The UAP provides youth support, and doesn't care about the consequences."

White then provides a link to his "Rules For Running" where he lists the Do's & Don't's for running away:

Packing

Big Backpack -- no purses or carry bags (you'll lose them)
No identification -- cops can't call in what you don't have
Personal Care -- toothbrush, razors, deodorant, soap, etc.
Clothes and coat -- wear as much as possible, pack extra
Good shoes/Boots -- you're gonna do a lot of walking
Gun/Knife -- carry concealed; it's dangerous out there
Money -- take it, and don't rely on pawning valuables
Drugs -- primarily for sale; great source of income
Book or two -- you'll have lots of free time

People

Friends -- pick and choose carefully
Boyfriend/Girlfriend -- safe, unless "they know best"
Parents/Schools/Police -- 100% liars and scum
Friend's Parents -- you're just sleeping over; don't trust them
People who want to "help" you -- friends or not, don't trust
Strangers -- don't trust them; robbers, rapists, kidnappers
Anarchists -- trust us; we put our necks out

Locations

Not your best friend's -- first place they look
Not a complete stranger's -- rape and kidnap are dangers
Friend of a friend's -- if they're trustworthy, the best place
Abandoned houses -- great places to stay and hide
Chill spots -- apartments people come and go at; great
Outdoors -- dpends on weather and distance; maybe
Under bridges/drainspouts -- maybe; not the best

Disguise

Cut it short or shave it -- better to grow long, but hard to do
Dye your hair -- natural colors; not obviously dyed
Grow a beard or shave -- confounds verbal descriptions
Change clothing style/appearance -- easiest big change
Dodging Cops

First there will be rumors or "leads" -- mostly gossip
Every friend your parents know is a lead
Let the police exhaust the leads -- you'll become a "cold case"
Avoid your friends -- no new leads
Don't go to school -- you'll be caught
Stay local, but out of your neighborhood -- it's "hot"
Stay out of public places -- malls, stores, the rest

Emergency
Cops? Stay calm -- DON'T PANIC or draw attention
Is the cop looking for you? -- or is this just a random stop
Robber, Rapist, et al. -- fight, and kill them if you have to

Don't

Go to your best friend's house -- we repeat, it's important
Deal with the cops in any capacity
Stay at any place more than one week, at least for a while
Let people know where you are or where you're going
Trust others too easily

Additionally, White then provides explicit instructions on making drugs and, at one point, making bombs.

According to Mark Salotte, "Among the UAP's advertised "programs" was something called the "Runaway Railroad" -- supposedly set up to offer safe houses and resources to runaway teenagers.trying to start life independently of their parents. This was an example of a project desperately needed in the anarchist movement, which led maybe a few of us to hopefully believe White's "movement" was for real. In reality, however, the so-called "railroad" was most likely (to the extent that it even existed) just a scam for Bill to find underage girls to hook up with and influence. Most of the anarchist movement concluded that he was useless and dangerous at best, and most likely a police agent provocateur to boot. Still, a few people who didn't have to deal too closely with him held out judgement in the hopes that he might be just ignorant but well-intentioned and enthusiastic."

How well-intentioned White was will probably never be known. It has been reported, however, that White got busted with certain articles of clothing in his car that belonged to a runaway girl.

All of these things, however, didn't draw too many cries of outrage among the anarchists. Most of the negatives were directed at White personally because of his obvious and overt manipulations of the ideology, in what appeared to be an exercise in self-glorification on the part of White. The true outrage didn't surface until it was believed that he was in the process of exploiting children.

In May of 1996, White boasted about a police investigation of him that was centered around runaways in Gaithersburg:

"A team of Montgomery County investigators, headed by Detetctive Victor A. Kennedy of the Youth Services Division of the Wheaton-Glenmont District, and in concjunction with the City of Gaithersburg and other local jurisdictions, have been invesitgating local anarchists and anarchist sympathizers for providing asistance, including shelter, transportation and other services, to several runaways. Two sought after runaways were captured in a raid in Gaithersburg, and police have interrogated seveal people and have threatened to arrest prominent anarchist Bill White (me) after officers searched his car during a traffic stop."

Furthering his outrageous pseudo-anarchist stance, White issued the following statement in regard to the runaway investigation:

"Anarchy is a righteous philosophy, and our sympathizers will continue to act in a righteous manner. The youths in question are trying to escape from homes filled with brutal beatings, vicious threats, and serious mental and emotional abuse, and we will not allow those youths or any other youths to be returned to those households against their will. Let the police come, for we will fight and die before we allow them to deny these peole their rightful freedom."

Sometime during this period, White got into a scuffle with the police and was arrested. It has been reported that White was placed in a psychiatric facility for a brief period, and that would fit considering the absurdity of his actions. During the time that he was away, however, White left Luke Kuhn in charge of the UAP. This was, undoubtedly, the crowning blow to his anarchist organization. As much as Bill White was disliked by others in that realm, Kuhn was liked even less.

Needing more attention than what he was getting, White strove for new heights of malevolence when 14-year-old Michael Carneal, the son of a prominent attorney, walked into the crowded lobby of Heath High School in Kentucky on December 3, 1997, and opened fire killing 3 and wounding 5 others, Bill White made the following statement:

"The only thing Michael Carneal did wrong was not take out more of these Christian pigs. By eliminating three future Bible-thumping lunatics he did America a service, and we should thank, and not revile, him for it."

No one could figure out where White was coming from. Generally speaking, anarchists aren't racist or anti-semitical. They believe in self-determination and self rule. Bill White, sparked anger among the group with his often racist statements and claims. Some attempted to categorize him as a "Third Posisitionist," and those who fit nicely into that category didn't want to claim him among their ranks either. It seemed that White fit in nowhere. And, for a narcissist, that is not unusual but to this narcissist it was totally unacceptable.

Always striving for acceptance and attention, White threw his hat into the political arena in 1998. He announced his candidacy for a Montgomery County School Board seat. Knowing that he had no following to speak of, White made a mockery of the race. On his election profile White was asked to list his previous elected offices or his civic activities. His response:

"Utopian Anarchist Party; marched in Communist May Day rally, May 1998; protested against police cover-up of police brutality in Montgomery County; burned flag at anti-Gulf War rally; organized with Refuse and Resist! for abortion rights."

When asked why people should vote for him, White replied: "Look, let's be honest-democracy is a sham. It's a charade played by the ruling class to give the rest of us the illusion of power. Candidates are pre-selected for the ballot by political parties owned by the rich. This election, I say don't 'Rock the Vote,' I say '[Expletive] the vote.' Don't worry about electing me-even if elected, they wouldn' t let an [expletive] like me do anything. Vote for me because you hate them. Vote for me because you hate the way they smile as they kill you. Vote for me because you want them to rot."

Of course he lost the election. For most of us, we could chalk such immaturity up to a rebellious nature that thrived on being iconoclastic. Generally, however, such rebelliousness is outgrown and redirected into more positive energies. Classically narcissistic people become welded in their quest for attention and acceptance. Rarely can they sate their thirst. Such appears to be the case with White.

On the morning of April 20, 1999, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold went on a shooting rampage at Columbine High School in Colorado. They killed 12 students and a teacher. Seeing this as an opportunity to gain media attention, Bill White publicly applauded the shooters and called for support of their actions:

"We have to remember that people who go and shoot up their schools are not acting as tyrants here. These are oppressed people who are struggling against society and who are now fighting society in the only way they know how. These students have spent their lives tortured by society, and now they are fighting back. We have to admire them for doing it. How many of us will ever fight back?"

As his comments ired those who read them, he claimed to have brought one CNN reporter to the brink of tears with his caustic and hateful remarks. Seeing that he was becoming popular with the media because of his outlandish statements, White decided to capitalize on the attention by asserting that these children had been members of his Utopian Anarchist Party. Setting the stage for this announcement, White reported:

"The showdown is still ongoing, as anarchists today say the two men involved may be local Utopian Anarchist Party organizers. Confirmation of the men's identities has not been made. "The two men, students at the school, entered the school around 11:30 AM, during lunch, and began shooting the preppy bitches who had spent their lives bullying and picking on the shooters."

White demonstrated his lack of compassion for the victims and their families at every turn. Preaching anarchy and violence, he penned the following:

"What saddens me most in Colorado is not that someone got shot; people are shot every day, and the people who were shot in Colorado are not particularly blessed people. What saddens me is that the people who were shot were not the most deserving. What saddens me is that the message being sent has been dulled by the choice of target. Had this shooting occurred outside a police station, or outside the NATO conference, or outside the White House, it would have been much more effective.

"I understand the anger students feel against the preppy bastard "white hats". I understand the hatred of drone society and drone culture. I understand feeling that one cannot live within drone society, and I understand the feeling that suicide is one's only viable option. Before any UAP supporter commits suicide, I would commend to them the kind of glorious, vengeful death seen in Colorado today.

"These two students said they found God in themselves. I agree. Man is God. This revelation, that the individual, and no outside power, is in control of the individual's destiny is often a difficult load to bear. It is the duty of the anarchist movement to teach individuals that they are in power, and that they can change, and that instead of striking back randomly they should strike back with precision at the most responsible and most evil elements of our society.

"I would prefer that no one had been killed today, and that the young people involved had been turned into revolutionaries rather than suicide bombers. I would prefer the 'victims' had been educated and transformed rather than brutally murdered. But there are times when brutal murder is inescapable, and it is not for me to judge the situation without full knowledge of the relations between the shooters and the 'victims.'

"Let me conclude by saying that I do not oppose school shootings, that I understand the anger involved, and that I would recommend only that in the future UAP activists be more circumspect in their selection of targets."

In an article entitled "Third Positionist" Fascism In The US: A Case Study Of Bill White" by Mark Salotte and published on the "Info-Shop News Site," the following characterization is made:

"In early 1999, White's political delusions reached a feverish pitch -- the final straw was claiming that the Columbine "Trenchcoat Mafia" were UAP members acting under his command, and that the UAP had similar attacks planned across the country. Around this time he was arrested in a scuffle with a cop. He got scared, realizing that his mouth was gonna be used against him, pleaded insanity at trial, was committed to a mental institution, and disappeared from the activist scene for several months."

This period and White's hospitalization would come back to haunt him time and again.

Struggling for recognition and acceptance, realizing that the UAP was rapidly deteriorating around him, White once more decided to run for the School Board. This time he decided to change his platform somewhat and test the waters to see if he could garner more support. He listed his education as "self-educated" and claimed to be an "independently wealthy humanitarian." For his civic activities, White boasted, ": Ten years of political activism in: street-level anti-racist, anti-police brutality, free-speech, youth issues and issues of liberty in the public schools, anti-war/anti-imperialism." If those statements were not enough to insure defeat, his rationale for why people should cast their votes to him sealed it:

"The public school system is systematically destroying America by undermining our culture and destroying our understanding of the necessity of liberty, particularly in the minds of the common people and working class. Though students are graduating from schools unable to read, no student is leaving school not knowing how to duckspeak the slogans of the liberal ruling class. We need to reinstitute in all public schools an appreciation for liberty, how Americans won their liberty, and how they had maintained it, and how the current one-party monopoly has usurped it. If we do not, our society faces destruction and enslavement."

On of the things that runs through White's entire pseudo-anarchist tapestry really surfaced during this campaign. His distaste for psychiatric counseling, along with his dislike of law-enforcement and laws, became part of his platform as a school board candidate. In a written response to the Montgomery County Council of Parent-Teacher Associations, White responds to a question regarding school safety:

"To make our schools safe, we must take steps to make students no longer want to rebel. What are the bureaucrats doing to make students want to kill? We must remove all police from schools, relax discipline policies that violate civil liberties, end coercive psychiatric counseling and psychiatric drugging in the schools, and begin anew teaching the precepts of liberty to youth. A good start will be the integration of firearms training into the physical education cirriculum, and a good ending will be an appreciation of the totalitarian, anti-working class nature of the Marxist-Leninist social doctrines currently in vogue."

Again, Bill White was defeated. Needing and craving the stroking of an ego that was out of control, White floundered around on message boards throughout cyber-space seeking self-validation. He continued to be the object of much ridicule and derision. But White, in classic narcissistic fashion, was reshaping and redefining himself. This is the narcissists survival tool. And Bill White is a survivor.

As has already been noted, he had received some cold shoulders from the anarchist crew who already viewed him at best as a racist and at worst as a neo-Nazi. Realizing that his brand of anarchy was not going to garner him much in the way of anything other than guffaws at his absurdity, White decided to become a "Libertarian Socialist." While to some this may appear to be an oxymoron, to the Libertarian Socialist, quite the opposite is true. There are many discussions online in reference to the term and we shall leave it to the reader to research, perhaps starting with this link to a rather cogent discussion - Libertarian Socialists.

White pretty much abandoned his Utopian Anarchist Party in favor of his new organization Libertarian Socialist News. White began publishing online "news reports" that were virulently anti-Semitic in nature. This drew harsh criticism once again. It seemed that White just couldn't get it right. When researching for a Libertarian Socialist perspective on racism, the following seemed to sum it up quite well:

"It has always been impossible for workers to challenge capitalism effectively so long as divisions of people based on gender, skin color, or sexual orientation have continued. Racism in particular has been used from the start as a way of dividing workers along an arbitrary basis and weakening any chances for solid organisation. So long as there is always someone being looked down upon, someone forced to accept lower wages because of their low status in society, wages in a competitive system can always be pushed to what the lowest and most desperate will accept. It should also go without saying that there is no scientific proof of the existence of separate human "races" which are truly incapable of getting along, nor is there scientific proof that women are inherently physically weaker or less intellectually capable than men. The issue of "hate speech" and pornography must always take into account the importance of artistic freedom and the necessity to criticize what one disagrees with. When it is clear that a conscious effort is being made to denigrate or divide a group of people from another, with some economic or political goal as it's motivation, libertarian socialists would resist such actions on the basis that they would divide and weaken any chance for eventual liberation from capitalism. Finally, so long as any group is prejudiced against, humanity will wage war against itself for irrational reasons, using such divisions as a means to an end when seen fit. If people understand that they too can be discriminated against, based on ANYTHING about them, it should be obvious that such discrimination, like any other human activity, has potential to be self-destructive in it's consequences."

Hence, it would appear that Bill White was at it again. Never content with the party line and always looking for that which would set him apart from all the rest, White jumped into his own racist brand of Libertarian Socialism. In an effort to, once again, redefine himself, it seems that he felt compelled to redefine the ideology to his own liking. It wasn't long before he was able to capture a little bit of the limelight once again.

In April of 2001, a debate was raging among Montgomery County Officials over whether or not to ban county funding to facilities which hold gun shows. Seing an opportunity to garner some press coverage, White seized the moment by joining the Tyranny Response Team and attending the hearing. The Tyranny Response Team is a rag-tag little group of "Patriots" who dress up in Revolution Era hats and protest gun-control throughout the United States replete with militia style rhetoric. At the Montgomery County Hearing, the Tyranny Response Team complained that the ordinance was a "broad assault on the civil liberties of firearm owners." White stepped to the forefront making the following statement about those who were in support of the bill:

"They're not worried so much about gun sales. They're worried about gun shows as a center of political organizing."

On that point, the council president seemed to agree. "These are not benign places," Ewing said. "The one I went to had a good deal of hate literature-racist and anti-jewish. People don't like that in Montgomery County." (One People's Project).

It is amazing what a few seconds of fame will do to give the narcissist a shot in the arm. Newly rejuvenated, White decided to tackle yet another issue. When the city of Kensington, Maryland was asked to light a menorah in the town square as part of its' holiday celebration, there were those in agreement and those who disagreed. After much discussion, it was decided that the 2001 celebration would be secular and patriotic. This met with strong opposition. As the cries of protest went up over what some considered a ban on Santa Claus, Bill White smelled opportunity. He swiftly issued a Press Release from the Tyranny Response Team with his plan of battle:

"Tyranny Response Team commandos and FReeper militia disguised as Santa Claus, Elves, other helpers (and even Christians), to raid anti-Santa (anti-Christmas) Kensington Town Council's "Celebration of the American Spirit Through Lights and Music" (Includes the Santa-less Town Tree Lighting Ceremony)

"Patriots will peaceably assemble near the Kensington Armory beginning around 3:30 p.m. and then occasionally disperse to cover all access and egress streets to the ceremony' s location. Remember, no profanity, no racism, no threats, no violence, ect., will be tolerated at the scene. A demonstration/protest permit is NOT required for this; regardless, local law enforcement officers should be treated with respect. We must remain "on message" defend the 1st Amendment, freedom of religion, freedom from this local government' s tyranny, while we counterattack this secular assault on Christmas. Remember that we are doing this FOR THE CHILDREN!"

And Santa's did show up. They marched right down the street. So did Bill White, carrying a sign that read "If Jews can ban Santa, why can't we ban Jews."

At this point in Bill White's internet life, he was still claiming to be non-racist and non anti-Semitic. Yet, immediately following the protest in Kensington, the following statements were posted on his site:

"I went to the rally against the Jewish ban on Santa Clause in Kensington. I had a sign that read "If Jews Can Ban Santa, Why Can't We Ban Jews? Terrorists Of Israel * Tyrants At Home-American Intifada, http:www.overthrow.com" I knew about half of the people rallying there. Most were standing with me and supporting me to start with. Then, I got surrounded by a gaggle of cackling Jews, and most of the people with me got scared off.

"The police ordered me to move my giant sign-it was 10' by 5'-across the street. As I did so, I was attacked by several members of FreeRepublic.com My sign was destroyed. I then starting mocking Free Republic with my bullhorn, talking about how lemming conservatives were phony patriots, how they hated their country, how all they know is what they read in the newspapers and how Jews own all the newspapers. My attacks on patriotism incited a gang of bikers, five of which attacked me. The police stood by until I had taken two of these five three hundred plus pound bikers who where swinging wildly at me and put them on the ground. When the cops saw the bikers losing, they moved in to intervene.

"I don't know what footage the television is showing, but I literally have only two scratches from a man's fingernail on me, despite the fact that I spent several minutes fighting with five three hundred pound bikers, all of whom then claimed to the police I assaulted them, two of whom seemed on the verge of tears and were saying "he hit me", despite the fact they broke out of a crowd of people to charge at least fifty feet before encountering me. "Despite what the newspapers and television will say, most of the non-Jewish audience was supportive of what I had to say. Only a handful of Jews and Yahoos from FreeRepublic, as well as the drug addicted, wimpy ass super-patriots with no brain three hundred pound bikers, were upset.

"My glasses and bullhorn were taken by the police and "accidentally" given to the bikers who, unable to hurt me, did destroy them. It was no great loss-I have plenty of money, and I always expect to lose things when I' m at demonstrations.

"All in all, it has been a very fun today. I am not going out to dinner with a female friend who accompanied me to the rally but, like everyone else, stayed far away from the media attention I was giving.

"I am daily becoming more and more sure that Jews are the root of most of out society' s problems. My people who were working the crowd tell me that most of the people there thought I had a point, enjoyed my sign, and thought that what the police did by not arresting the bikers was wrong. This is good- and I hope it is the beginning of a lot of fun."

In reality, many people found the sign being carried by White quite offensive. A young teen ran up and tore the sign from White's hands. The police then intervened and took the teen to the other side of the street. And that was the only incident reported on December 2, 2001, in Kensington, Maryland. It was the "beginning" however - maybe not of "fun" but it certainly marked the beginning of ascension into the world of the White Nationalist. It also marked the beginning of the end for Bill White as he rapidly flew into the radar of anti-racists.

Enjoying his newly found media attention, White decided to once again run for political office, only this time he set his sights a little higher. He ran for the Maryland State Legislature as an Independent candidate. Oddly enough, he didn't include his membership in the Tyranny Response Team in his profile. He did, however, claim to be a "published columnist" and cited "Synthesis" the journal of the National Anarchist Movement. White lost the election, garnering only 7% of the vote.

At this point, however, Bill White had begun to receive some much needed attention from the folks on the racist right. Realizing that his acceptance as an anarchist would never come, White's narcissism required that he, once again, reinvent himself. Thus began the new era of "Kaiser" Bill White. Mark Salotte had this to say:

"...he's never quite what he seems. On the one hand he's a master of self-promotion and disinformation, but on the other hand the delusions that come out in his writing are sometimes so huge and glaring that you have to wonder if he crosses the line from intentionally stretching the truth to actually believing reality is just a bit different from what everybody else sees. While his political allegiances are easy to pin down (even people that don't know anything about his politics know him as "Nazi Bill White"), what's a little more disorienting to some are the arguments he, probably more than any other figure on the American Right, has worked to hone over the last few years, since his abandonment of the lone wolf, loose-cannon style he had staked out for himself historically, and his attempt to remake himself as some kind of external ideologue and propagandist for the neo-fascist political right wing."


A master of self promotion? Well, for awhile, maybe. Any attempts by Bill White to promote himself have met with minimal and transient success. While self-aggrandizement is White's stock-in-trade, disinformation is his schtick. As an anarchist, Bill White was laughed at and rarely taken seriously, as a Nazi he is lucky to still be breathing and running around free. For about a minute, White did a stint writing for "Pravda," the paper of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. But, sometime in 2000, White began to pen articles favorable to the racist right in general and to the National Alliance in particular. This got him in the door with Billy Roper who was Deputy Membership Coordinator for the NA at that time. And this also was the kiss of death for Mr. White. In an interview with White Revolution, White attempts to explain his metamorphosis:

"In 1999, after Columbine, I had a series of revelations about the movement I was involved in and its nature. I had become interested in the corruption of anti-racist groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center, and became doubly interested in organized Judaism through some things that had been said about me to Reuters by the Simon Wiesenthal Center. I began reading both national socialist writings and books critical of communism from a conservative and anti-Semitic perspective, and came to realize that the left-wing movements I had been involved in were a total fraud. You cannot understand the actions of a left-wing group through left-wing analysis; to understand what I was actually seeing on a day to day basis of working with them I had to seek an outside frame of reference.

"What I concluded was that communism was an insane and internally inconsistent doctrine that required its adherents to learn a series of fallacious, untrue, and often complicated arguments in order explain away the every day facts that run in the face of their theory. How can one explain the Communist Party's open alliance with the Democrats except through a series of nearly insane logical leaps?

"As I've learned more, I've come to realize that communism is simply a manifestation of Judaism, particularly of the kinds of Judaism that Jews event to sell to Gentiles. Christian Zionism is the same kind of doctrine, as are liberalism, neo-conservativism, state capitalism, democratic socialism, anti-racism, and the like. Judaism is a spiritual movement of destruction, and all things it creates are created for the purpose of attacking and destroying the creative civilizations of Traditional people. Communism, because it is Jewish, is a blind movement of hate and destruction, which is used by the other movements of hate and destruction, like the Washington Post and the Democratic Party, to weaken the creative spirit and to degenerate and destroy both white people, in our particular, and all those people of the world who adhere to Traditional or creative doctrines."

From a different perspective, that of observing Bill White for a number of years, it appears that, in truth, Bill White never really understood the premise of the left. As someone who is inherently uncomfortable within the confines of any "Movement" largely because it necessitates a certain amount of self-sacrifice, Bill White failed miserably at everything that he attempted. I believe, however, that it was the failure to feed his insatiable ego that crushed him and set him in search of new pastures. The racist right is always in search of those who will preach their brand of anti-Semitism and racism, are historically not very discerning who they let into their ranks, and Bill White said all the right things. While there were those who were not quite as welcoming as some, there were others who, taken in by White's rhetoric, began to follow his writings. In many ways, Bill White's move to the radical right was fortuitous for the left in general and ant-racists in particular.

The Narcissistic Personality must play in the spotlight at all times. That Bill White was not mentally healthy had already been evidenced in his past actions and words. His new-found acceptance among the racists was a real ego-trip for White but, as is true with the narcissist, it was never quite enough. White refused to call himself a "racialist" stating, "I try to avoid being part of any "ism". "Isms" are very constraining, and they encompass much more than just a political philosophy, but also imply certain cultural or personal-social traits, or a certain approach to life and living. I'm a Bill White-ist, but I love white people, particularly white working people, and I want to see them survive and suceed."And a "Bill White-ist" is precisely what he is. The self-love of narcissism does not allow the love or dedication to anyone or anything other than the narcissist. While Bill White might say and do all of the right things, it was not understood by the racist right that all things with White are wholly superficial as they are only a means to an end - the validating of Bill White.

As the National Alliance started to fracture, Bill White saw the writing on the wall and jumped ship while publishing a scathing attack on the Alliance. The firing of Billy Roper by Alliance leader, Erich Gliebe, had already created a huge divide among the membership. Lurid tales of corruption, mismanaged funds, promiscuity and drugs within the compound were running rampant among the racists. Seeing an opportunity to further his own personal appetite for drama and acknowledgment, White decided to join forces with Alex Linder of Vanguard News Network and Billy Roper of White Revolution in an attempt to topple the largest organized hate group in America. White was tenacious, publishing rumors and innuendoes as well as out right lies about the leaders of the National Alliance, claiming knowledge of the in-fighting among the Board of Directors, and others within the ranks, White became a formidable foe of the organization and of Erich Gliebe and Kevin Alfred Strom. Admittedly, there were many moments where we sat back and cheered Bill White on in his endeavors - we even began to wonder if he wasn't really on our side. What soon became apparent, however, was that Bill White had entered a manic phase of his disorder. No longer was he content to be noticed. No longer was he satisfied with an occasional pat on the back. He needed more, much more, than what his new found "friends" were giving him.

At some point, White hooked up with, one time White Power financier, Marc Moran. It seems that White had caught Moran's eye on the campaign trail and that Marc had contributed to his campaign. Marc had been a friend and contributor to VNN and Alex Linder. There had been some discussion between Linder and Moran about building a business to support Vanguard News Network. Hence the idea of "Shop White," an ebay type business for white people, was born. Marc Moran then fingered Bill White for assisting in the building and hosting of the business. This, of course, appealed to the ego of White and since he had been boasting around the net about being "independently wealthy," he, obviously had the time to devote to building and maintaining the site from a technical aspect. At the same time, there had already been bad blood between the National Alliance and Alex Linder, and there were some pretty harsh words thrown back and forth. National Alliance member, Chester Doles had been arrested and was facing a lot of jail time. Linder and others in the "Movement" felt that the Alliance had dropped the ball on raising funds for his defense. Vanguard News Network issued a challenge to those on the racist right. Setting a deadline, they claimed to have an anonymous benefactor who was willing to match whatever funds were donated, and the cash started rolling in. The National Alliance couldn't take public issue with this as it would certainly put them in a negative light. But the finger-pointing and discussions that ensued were more than just a little heated. Whatever fissure had started among the membership swiftly became a chasm.

During the fund-raising, Bill White kept the pressure on the Alliance, but was loosing ground among the general population as his self-love was becoming more and more evident. Many started questioning his dedication to the movement and began to delve into his anarchist past. While his writings against Jews and other minorities were often appreciated among the right, it was becoming more and more obvious that any "news" that he reported was greatly embellished and spun to the point of illegitimacy. White, witnessing much the same attitude as he had faced with the anarchist crowd, seem to spin completely out of control right before our very eyes. Struggling to maintain the attention that he thrives upon, and fighting to keep his short-lived stature among the only people who he had ever felt accepted by, Bill White began to self-destruct.

Marc Moran, the "financial spine" of VNN, had stepped into the political arena, filling a vacated seat on the City Council in Hopewell Burroughs. It wasn't long, however, before Moran's true identity and racist allegiances were made known the town's elected officials. Amidst a media frenzy and public outcries, Moran stepped down - he also stepped out of the picture. What was unbelievable to many of the racists was not only did he turn tail and run for cover, he had entrusted "Shop White" as well as the technical end of VNN to none other than Bill White. The announcement sent shock-waves through the mood of the anti-National Alliance camp. There was disbelief followed by anger - and plenty of it. With a vengeance the racists took to the internet denouncing Moran for not standing tall in his racialist beliefs. And there was much speculation as to why anyone would leave "Kaiser" Bill in charge of anything. Once it was learned, however, that Moran had been the anonymous benefactor for the Chester Doles fund, most of the members were silenced in their harangue. It wasn't until White came forth with his plans for the future of Shop White that the proverbial shit hit the fan.

Initially, it was speculated among members that Bill White had been the person to "out" Marc Moran to the voters of Hopewell Burroughs. White was, after all, the first person to break the story on Moran. He followed that with a diatribe about "Zog Agents" and a call for others on the right to make phone calls to those officials who ousted Moran. White published the names, addresses, and phone numbers of the town leaders and encouraged others to use them and voice their displeasure. For days White cajoled and prodded others to take action. The real comedy here, however, was when Bill made numerous phone calls to an official issuing obscenities and racial ephitets using his own cell phone. Of course, Caller ID captured his number.

Realizing that he was in the driver's seat when it came to Shop White and VNN, it didn't take long for the narcissistic White to engage in his typical display of muscle flexing and jaw flapping. Claiming to only be interested in the wants and needs of white people, Bill explained how Shop White would work. He posted the "Terms of Agreement. When it was realized that the TOA that White posted gave White the autonomy to do whatever he wanted with the information provided by users - including their credit card numbers - there was a roar that could be heard throughout the darkest reaches of cyber-space. The megalomania of Bill White came back and bit him squarely on the ass. The onslaught against Bill White was relentless. At one point, White accused those who were railing against him of being sent by Kevin Alfred Strom. Incapable of silencing the protests and unable to regain any footing within the racist movement White published a letter on his site supposedly from an "LSN Reader." That letter contained the real names of several key players within the rank and file of the National Alliance. Of course, as thinly veiled as the "LSN Reader" was, everyone knew that it was White. The racists were stunned. Morgan Kashden described it best:

"I have written much about Bill White. I have characterized him as the egomaniacal narcissistic person that he is. I have addressed his continuous attempts to reinvent himself and his pathological need to fit in. I never dreamed that someday I would be saying "Thank You" to Bill White - but I am doing just that. I know that the last thing that White wants at this point in time is thanks from me - but, hey, I'm just that kind of guy! What has ensued is the stuff I dream of - the almost complete decimation of the National Alliance and Vanguard News Network. What more can an anti-racist hope for?

"White Nationalists and neo-Nazi's are really not too crazy about being publicly outed. There are some who use their real names - those are generally the ones who make their living largely from their organizations, however. Marc Moran lamented the use of his real name in his day to day writings and activities for the Alliance. Others cite their jobs, communities and families as reasons not to be identified. For most of us, that is hard to understand. We are generally proud of our organizations and our affiliations with them. But, if you are part of a movement which advocates separation or genocide of other races, violent governmental overthrow or hate crimes - I guess you would be a little more circumspect about announcing your allegiances than if you were a tree-hugger. The racists were both stunned and infuriated. They have been digging up all of the information on Bill White that they can find. Of course, they had already seen him as a quirky little pest who played at being "pro-white," and who with much of his writing was prone to lies and half-truths. But now they are questioning his ethnicity - that is usually what they do when they can't do anything else. Most of those who had been supportive of White, or attempting to assert some calm over a potentially explosive situation, are now incensed by White's actions. Truly laughable in this entire epic of sleaze is that they are questioning White's integrity and character. We have been trying to tell these people for a very long time that if you lay down with dogs, you wake up with fleas. When people of the ilk of these racists become outraged, it is always with such intensity and the outrage is always "morally" based. I guess that the old adage "what you hate in others is often what you hate most about yourself," more than fits in this situation. Perhaps I should clue them in that there is no honor among thieves or racists."

Being almost completely ostracisized by the people who had formerly embraced him, White had no where to turn. And for someone plagued by narcissism that is a bad place to be. He tried to no avail to ingratiate himself to the flock. Publishing news accounts of black on white crime, anti-semitic rantings and harangue against the government White, once again, found himself trying to fit in - somewhere. But it wasn't happening. With his insatiable need for attention reaching a fever pitch, White published tales about Shop White being hacked into by parties unknown. At one point he claimed to have been hacked by Cox Communication. As all of his machinations and lies seemed to fall on deaf ears and to garner nothing more than jeers and guffaws, White found himself sinking further and further into the recesses of leperdom. It is believed that White, in a last ditch effort at demonstrating the many problems that he was having keeping "Shop White" alive, and how unjustly persecuted he had become, entered the VNN forum under an alias and posted the list of "Shop White" customers including their names, addresses, telephone numbers, login names, passwords, and, yes, credit card numbers. The list only lasted a short while on VNN before it was pulled - but that was long enough for it to be circulated around the internet with lightning speed. Not only had the identities and personal information of the customers been made public, but their purchases as well. Imagine the chagrin of Billy Roper when it became known that among his purchases of John Wayne videos were also "Marilyn Manson - Get Your Gunn," "Lords of Acid - Take Control," "Lolita," and "The Sinful Nuns of St. Valentine (An Italian nunsploitation epic in which a demented Mother Superior and a rabid collection of mentally distrubed and sex crazed sisters lose their habits and morals with equal gusto.")

As can readily be imagined, the objections were numerous. White, claiming to have been a victim of a hacker and the subsequent posting of the list by the same, got absolutely no sympathy from the racists. Running out of tricks and needing to regroup, White reached one more time into his morass of mental illness to produce one last ditch effort at regaining the attention of those who he so wished to be part of. He stole VNN and locked Alex Linder out of his own cyber-house. The end result was, of course, a demoralizing defeat for White as Linder's site re-emerged and White was again the butt of jokes from the racists.

Generally speaking, narcissistic individuals require continuous and massive attention. It makes little difference if that attention is positive or negative. If, in fact, the attention is negative they simply convince themselves that they are doing something right or that the sector giving such attention is merely jealous of them. Bill White is certainly a study in classic narcissism. Realizing that none of his stunts were working and that he had lost favor with even the lowest dregs of humanity, White went into overdrive. In an almost deranged paroxysm of maniacal writings, White raged against the Jews, and those on the anti-racist left. Article after article was written and posted in a desperate attempt to win back some of his acceptance. Intermittently between his rantings, White promoted himself. Spouting off about his finances he even wrote articles giving advice on investments. He claimed to be independently wealthy, but the racist right was having none of that. Relentlessly digging into White's background, they nixed his claims at every turn. When he claimed to be in the running for a government contract that would pay him megabucks, he was met with nothing less than derision and scorn. The racists located the names and address of his parents and published them. They accused White of never having held a job and living off of his parents. We got quite a kick out of that one because the same is true of so many of them. And White continued to seek their approval.

Claiming that he had fallen in love and had found his Utopia in a primarily white area of Missouri, White spun a tale of building a house on a hill and leaving Maryland forever. It makes sense that White took that particular track in his search for approval, as it was a road not yet traveled by him. Yearning for acceptance, White spun the utopian dream of all white racists - an all white neighborhood with no crime where children played from dawn to dusk and neighbors looked out for each other. We watched and took guesses at how long this would continue. Narcissists are largely incapable of actual love and commitment to others. Any attempt at a relationship is certain to be disastrous - and this was to be no exception. When the truth emerged, White was living in racist Nazi, Jennifer Adams'(known as "Hooligirl" on the internet) house under a rental agreement with her. According to Adams, White was renting a room in her house. He came into her bedroom one night while she was talking to another guy on the internet and flew into a rage. Things became physical, the police were called and White was forced to leave. Of course, there is the Bill White spin. According to White, Jennifer was unstable and she was the one who flew into a rage and attacked him. Whatever really transpired in that house will probably always be up for speculation. But Bill White filled his site with the saga of he and Jennifer, the police, her parents, and the lawsuit that he filed against her. Unfortunately for White who desperately wanted the world to believe that he and Jennifer were an item, when he sued for money and belongings he admitted to the rental contract that he had with Adams.

White openly went through all of the stages of self-serving grief. He blamed, he lamented, he denied and he raged. Then he ran away. Taking a brief sabbatical, from his beloved LSN, White ran into an old friend - Erica Hardwick-Hoesch. Erica had been part of the "Movement" for quite some time and was experiencing some inner turmoil. In an almost eerie move, White published "Ode to a Beautiful Woman" upon what he believed was a rekindling of an old friendship. Little did he know that Erica was soon to leave the ranks of the racist right to join forces with the anti-racists. Suddenly, a message appeared on his website that stunned both sides of the playing field. It was a proposal to Jennifer Adams. White stated that he had maligned and treated Jennifer badly not knowing that she was pregnant with his child. He begged her to marry him. However, it wasn't long before Adams denied that pregnancy and turned down the proposal:

Just because I am SICK of repeating it, and so many people seem to care... "I am not pregnant and I am not having Bill White's love child. Furthermore, if I was, it would be an immaculate conception. We were only friends and he couldn't handle that. By his own accounts, he is trying to sue me for breach of lease agreement.

According to his own articles he picked my bedroom lock because I locked myself in MY ROOM all day. I was talking to another guy on the net at the time... Everyone who knows me in REAL LIFE knows that I was utterly repulsed by Bill. He did many weird things like pick my locks, go through my drawers... sniffing my dirty underwear, and I even caught him wearing lingerie one time, and it wasn't mine!

He has been emailing me and calling me non-stop. He thinks I must love him if I can hate him sooo much. According to my boyfriend, "He is away with the fairies".

Over the next few months, White continued to make a complete and utter ass out of himself. At one point he issued a threat against the President of the United States. Later he claimed that someone had posted that threat on his website and that he was in contact with the Secret Service over this and the posting of the Credit Card numbers from Shop White. Of course, the racists then labeled him a "snitch" and a "rat." To many of them, Bill White was nothing more than an annoyance. To others, however, he had become a serious liability and someone who had to be stopped. One poster on VNN issued the following plea:

"Any information on Bill White aka William Alexander White, his family, credit card numbers, passwords, criminal history, addresses, friends, web articles is welcome. It can come from a white racialist, ARA, Jews, blacks, whites... we don't care, we all hate William A White all the same. Any peice of information that can put Bill White back into the mental hospital is really wanted."

Yet another went a step further:

"Now, however, it has come to the forefront in many people's minds that Bill White must be permanently neutralized. He must be neutralized by digging up every stone he lurks under, by plastering the Internet with every unsavory story about him, by letting everyone know where he lives, by exposing every little detail about him that can be found, including public records, pictures of where he lives, what his family members look like, where he's been and where he's at now, the car he drives, the company he keeps, even the toilet he craps in."

The threats and "suggestions" being issued took a very ominous turn:

"Isn't it horrible that you will always have to be in hiding for the rest of your life? No more public appearances, no more running for office. And someone is going to visiting that home for sale with your Mom, and she will probably be all alone."

And those who weren't making threats were hurling accusations:

"It is now two weeks to the day since Bill White posted to his web site a direct and unambiguous threat against the life of President of the United States. He seems to be still at large. For the United States Secret Service to have given White a "pass" on this is simply stunning. I notice that almost by common consent the topic seems to have been swept under the rug and seems to have almost disappeared from this board. Vot giffs? "I say it is because as I have said since I first ran into Mr B White, that he is just a CIA asset. Remember kiddies, the Company, as us Old Crows call them can not operate on USA soil, but this sure does give them a chance to get the SS Secret Service involved who can operate on USA soil. Which if this were not cointellpro, why did the mighty SS Secret Service not investigate the Credit card numbers stolen from ShopWhite earlier when credit card fraud is 90% of their normal work."

It became very obvious very quickly that Bill White was dead in the water as far as any usefulness he might have amongst the racist right. Never again would he be accepted or validated by those whose favor he so ardently sought. Once that fact became evident, the speculation as to his next move, or reinvention of himself, might be:

"It is probably time for Bill to "reinvent" himself again.

"I smell "born again anti-racist" and a long tour on the ADL's talk show and rubber chicken dinner circuit. Can you say "Floyd Cochran?" SURE you can!"

We sincerely doubt that Bill White would ever be able to pull that off. His public displays of instability and chameleon machinations have rendered him an outcast from any circle of respectability. Watching Bill White as he entered the last throes of the debilitating mental illness from which he has long suffered, has not been easy on any of us. While White is at that right end of the continuum which we fight, he is, in fact, a human being in pain - and that is not something which we enjoy seeing.

As he entered his last hoorah, White was almost pitiful. The trial of Matt Hale provided him with a little spark. He joined forces with another person in need of therapy, Creator Kathy Robertazzo, and attempted to report on the proceedings as if they were there. The truth is that neither were present and the spin that was put on the daily events was evidence enough that neither knew what in the hell they were talking about. But White had one more trump to play. As the testimony of FBI confidential informant, Tony Evola, gave the jury in the Hale trial enough evidence to convict, Bill White decided that Evola should reap some of what he had sewn. White published the name, address and phone number of Evola on his website with a message for folks to say "Hi." It didn't take long for the information to appear on racist websites throughout cyber-space. While no one really liked Bill White - they disliked Tony Evola even more. The problem, however, came when Mr. Evola started getting phone calls from some very disgruntled and uncouth people. It seems that Bill White had targeted the wrong Anthony Evola! This little stunt by White created a very unsafe atmosphere for a family that was in no way connected to Matt Hale, the racist right, or Bill White. Of course, the FBI found no humor in what White had done. The Fed's swiftly issued a statement stating their concerns and their plans to monitor the sites of the racists. With false bravado, Bill White took a combative and somewhat bellicose stance claiming that the Federal Government would never shut him down. As warnings were issued throughout the racist community to be careful about what is posted on various forums, White was cavorting in his usual rapacious and grandiose way spouting his self-importance and claiming that the FBI was afraid of him.

A couple of last ditch efforts to maintain his own self-gratification were made by Bill White. In a flurry of posts on his website he tried to tie Citizens Against Hate and One People's Project to a shooting that occurred at Brian Moudry's house. Brian is a Creator who had led a protest against the Hale conviction in Joliet, Illinois. His house was shot at later that evening. White also suggested that he might post the names and addresses of the jurors in Hale's trial. This was followed by an article entitled It's Bitch Slappin' Time" which was published on the Citizens Against Hate website. Bill White made a feeble attempt to locate information on those involved with Citizens Against Hate. Taking a screen name of one of the Directors, Roh Larin, Bill White posted a convoluted message on his website that went something like this: The P.O. Box for CAH is in Cincinnati, Ohio. Since there is a lot of trouble which comes from anti-racists out of Cleveland, there is a good chance that they are really based in Cleveland. CAH is also part of Unity Groups and when you do a google search for Unity Groups it takes you to a high school in Cleveland. Additionally, there is a "Larin" listed in Cleveland - a female. Since Roh Larin probably lives with his mother - that is probably the place. Bill White then published the name and personal information for a woman with the last name of Larin who has absolutely no connection whatsoever to Citizens Against Hate. We guess he learned nothing from his Tony Evola fiasco. Of course, the authorities were notified as well as the innocent woman.

As was stated earlier, we are not profiling Bill White because he is a racist or anti-Semite. We believe that the convictions that he claims to hold are absolutely superficial and transient in nature. Having an understanding of the illness that appears to plague Bill White helps in that area. As with relationships, we do not believe that Bill White is capable of maintaining a convicted stance for or against anything. It appears that White's sole existence is controlled by his need for acceptance and validation. Consequently, his political standing, ideological leanings and philosophy on life and its issues merely change when the need arises for more or greater attention. However, Bill White should not be discounted as a harmless nut floating around the internet. Bill White is a dangerous persona. His ability to lie and deceive and fabricate is going to get someone hurt. His intelligence matched with his adeptness at divisionary tactics pits one person or group against another. His lack of remorse and societal understanding borders on sociopathic psychosis and should never be written off as non-threatening. Therefore, Bill White will remain within our radar screen as long as he continues to be a menace to society.

Jake Featherston
01-31-2007, 09:20 PM
I agree. It does not speak well of supposedly civilised men to allow perverted 'justice' to be meted out by the decree and whim of prison strongmen and others who are the dregs of humanity. Prisons should serve as corrective and utilitarian facilities, not sadistically punitive ones.

Yeah, taking glee in prisoners getting forcibly sodomized is not indicative of either a healthy or civilized mindset. Its very sad that, near as I can tell, the majority of American White men are of that mindset, which to my way of thinking serves as something of a cultural canary in the mineshaft ie., those aren't men of the type we need to take back the West, as you can't reclaim Civilization with barbarians. When society stops tolerating vileness like prison rape, a lot of other vileness will probably be living on borrowed time as well. How do we restore a civilized mindset to a sufficient number of American White men (and to a lesser extent, women), so that we can reclaim the West? I don't know. I do know some of you would be tempted to pipe in that we just need to, you know, get down & churchy with it, and while I admit that Christianity may well have a substantial role (or not) to play in such a cultural restoration, you're going to have to be a lot more specific than that. My wife and I can go across the street and attend Lutheran services three times a friggin' week, and our community won't change one iota. We need Christian denominations that actually stand for something more than fund-raising, social conformity, and dressing nice on Sunday. Near as I can tell, we don't have that available to us, and until we do, Christianity looks an awful lot like a deadend. But what's the alternative? I don't know.

Thomas777
01-31-2007, 09:21 PM
White is sort of a sad case, really. I mean, I don't want to wax idiotic like some pop-psychologist, but White really is a 29 year old 9th grader...he reminds me of the oddball post-punks and suburban "radicals" who spun a lot of "Dead Kennedys" that I would get high with when I was about 15...he just never grew up. He's the Peter Pan of Nutzis...trapped in a time warp where its forever 1994, parents and teachers "just don't get it, man", and talking trash and acting like a rebel will still get you invited to the cool parties on Friday night.