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Jim West
01-22-2007, 05:43 PM
Originally Posted by Jim West, American Hero: America was founded as a white nation, and rose to power as a white nation, based upon one economic system.

Original Reply by Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator: Actually it wasn't based on one economic system because different systems were in use for a large part of American history, such as the barter system.
Jim West, American Hero, now replies: That’s like me saying that America was founded as an English-speaking nation, and then you retorting, “Hey, wait a sec! Not true! There were some swamp folk down in Louisiana who spoke French and Cajun, asshole, and out West the white pioneers heard Apache and Comanche spoken, along with Spanish! SPANISH, by God! And what about Pennsylvania? Huh? Huh? What about Pennsylvania, Mr. Smarty-Pants?! Folks out there spoke German in some parts! And Swedish even, if you went further up towards Minnesota way! So don’t give me this bullshit about America being founded as an English-speaking nation! (foam, froth, drool)

Jim West, American Hero, further replies: I’m ashamed of you, Commie Agitator, trying to be so disingenuous with me and the good members of this forum, especially when you try to muddy the truth that America was founded as a capitalist country. Whether tiny pockets of 18th and 19th century commies existed here and there, like the Oneida Colony, or other similar twisted economic cults like that, it does not for one instant change the fact that America’s Founding Fathers believed in a free trade system, where one could freely own land, grow crops and raise farm animals, and them sell them freely at town markets. Or…that wealthy individuals could invest their money in tobacco plantations or Far East shipping, and freely seek out profitable routes of trade, and grow even richer because of their wise investments. THAT was the overriding economic system in America – not the economic-shackling of Communism and Socialism, nor of “National Socialism”, not anything else. Capitalism, Commie Agitator. Now, as far as the “barter system”, that’s simply part of the capitalist free trade system at work: one man goes out into the woods and hunts beaver skins. His own effort, his own gun and traps, his own skill. A free man, in other words. Later, with twenty or so beaver pelts in hand, he goes into town and barters with the local General Store owner. He says, “I’ll give you five beaver pelts for a sack of beans, a keg of gunpowder, and a couple of them thar licorice sticks. How about it?” Instead, the General Store owner demands six pelts for those items, and the Hunter says, “Okay, (grumble, grumble) you got a deal.” That’s the free trade system at work, circa 1770’s and onward, Commie Agitator. Capitalism, in other words. One man’s capital (pelts) traded for another man’s capital (store goods). No communism involved. No Socialism involved. Just two free men trading their goods in a peaceful way. Today, American Capitalism has been warped and twisted by many factors, both inside and out, until the basic honesty of the original system has been replaced by corporate lobbies working with corrupt politicians to promote globalistic-greed in exchange for affirmative-action, race-quotas, multiculturalistic- indoctrination of white employees, under threat of losing their jobs. All this, and more, has crippled the great good that capitalism achieved in America. Yet, even so crippled, it still crushed communist economies around the globe, foremost among them the former USSR. All this you failed to see, Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator. Most important of all, you failed to see that I do not promote present-day “capitalism”, but a Modified Capitalism®, one of my own creation. And with this superlatively conceived economic system in place, it will be the final axe blade that decapitates both Jewish/Liberal “multiculti-capitalism” and Jewish/Liberal “multiculti-communism”. As for “National-Socialism”, it too sucks the teat of Jewish Marxist “State Control” ideology. Therefore, it too must be butchered like a squealing hog with the same bloodied axe.
Originally Posted by Jim West, American Hero:
True, it was not laissez-faire capitalism, at least not for long, but, by and large, it was fundamentally the economic system of capitalism that infused America with power and greatness.

Original Reply by Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator:
As usual, many racialists embrace the very system that causes all the problems the movement bitches about. First of all, where capitalism developed in America, it generally WAS laissez-faire, which was certainly not a good thing. Second, capitalism is not the reason for America's wealth and greatness. The real reason is vast expanses of land and resources that were basically unclaimed, and geographical separation from the rest of the world with all its power struggles and problems. That and a steady influx of European immigrants meant that America could not possibly fail. Jim West, American Hero, now replies: A very simplistic and inaccurate analysis, Captain. South America had even greater amounts of natural resources than North America, during the Era of European Colonization, yet its European colonists never came even close to equaling the power and the glory of America. Why not? Afterall, both North and South America had their problems with Indians, but ours were better organized and much fiercer, armed with both white men’s rifles and white men’s horses, unlike their South American counterparts. In other words, the Europeans who colonized South America had an easier go of it concerning the native populations, in addition to VAST resources of timber and ore, access to such nutritious and native staples as potatoes, beans, tropical fruits of every kind, incredible varieties of game, fish, and other resources that existed on a far greater scale than in North America. Furthermore, South America was even more isolated from the rest of the world, with “all its power struggles and problems”. So, all your “reasons” for why America became what it was have just been shot to pieces, Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator. The real reason was indomitable white men and the freedom of capitalism. That’s why America grew into the richest power on Earth, even while countries twice as large, with five times the natural resources (Czarist Russia) floundered in poverty, sickness, communist tom-foolery, mass murder of the proletariat, and other insanities, until they were finally destroyed by the superior economic system of the US. Expressed another way, our Capitalist Jews kicked the livin’ shit out of your Communist Jews, only, in reality, it was mainly our white capitalists who kicked the livin’ shit out of your white communists. So, any way you slice it, Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator, you and your beliefs are losers. And anyone who follows your beliefs are losers. Originally Posted by Jim West: Today, capitalism, a system that once rewarded honest labor and clever ingenuity, has been corrupted by forces of multiculturalism and egalitarianism, as well as the twisted creed of government-fueled globalism, which compels greed-driven corporations to exploit impoverished Third World labor at the expense of America's traditional blue-collar labor force - a labor force that has also been traditionally middle-class and white.

Original Reply by Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator: Capitalism had been exploiting cheap labor everywhere as much as it possibly could. First it was Irish and Italian immigrants, then as the US started to gain colonies, it started to exploit the banana republics while making and empire in the Pacific. When was capitalism a system that rewarded honest labor? The capitalists are people that make their wealth through OTHER PEOPLES' labor. It's always fun to ask such people as to precisely when their beloved system "was corrupted".Jim West, American Hero, now replies: Very true, Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator – both European and American capitalists did indeed “exploit” the cheap labor of groids, gooks, and greasers world-wide. And…your point is? Really, I’m not sure what it is. I don’t cry for groids, gooks, or greasers like commie agitators do. So, ♪“Don’t Cry For Me, Argentina!”♪, cuz I ain’t gonna cry for you. However, you FORGET that everywhere white capitalists “exploited” groids, gooks, and greasers, they got from us modern medicine, advanced farming techniques, neat gadgets their fucking Stone Age minds could never have conceived of, and, well, a whole helluva lot more. The Captain states: “The capitalists are people that make their wealth through OTHER PEOPLES' labor.” Uh, yeah...What the fuck to you expect a capitalist to do, GIVE away his money to the groids in Africa, and say: “Here ya go, niggers. Take it all! Fifty-fuckin’ million dollars and do whatever the fuck ya wanna do with it. What’s that? What was I gonna do with it? Well, I was gonna clear some land and grow some crops, build a copper mine, build a little settlement of white folks over there, and then some nigger shacks across the river where YOU can live, instead of in the disease-infested mud huts you live in now. Yeah, you’re gonna work your lazy butts off, but at least you’ll have three steady meals a day, (and maybe a few whip lashes too) but hey, I sure don’t see any high-talkin’ commies around here to help you out, since they’re too busy (meaning folks like YOU, Captain) plotting the mass murder of 100 million people in the mid-part of the 20th century, the Korean and Vietnam wars, and something called The Cold War, which they end up losing anyway, btw.” Originally Posted by Jim West Combined with the influx of millions of illegal, job-stealing non-white aliens from south of our borders, the outsourcing of US jobs to foreign lands, and the steady erosion of America's white majority due to these runaway economic forces, it has become incumbent upon we, the United White Nationalists of North America, to renounce the policies of globalism and the present economic system and replace it with a law-enforced, modified form of capitalism that, once in place, will ensure both fair competition in the US market place and protection of US jobs, as well as serve to insulate North America from any future incursions of non-white immigrants, illegal or otherwise.

Original Reply by Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator: That's capitalism pal. Capitalism isn't about honest work, ingenuity, or other lovely abstract concepts. It's about profit, plain and simple. Immigrants means more profit; globalization means more profit.Jim West, American Hero, now replies: Let’s see…here’s a guy who works for a big ol’ meanie-weenie capitalist. He’s a car designer for this capitalist. He loves his work, he’s talented, and he makes real good money. But in your warped view of things, Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator, that mean ol’ capitalist is just so gosh darn mean he won’t let that poor wittle car designer perform any “honest work”, or let him utilize any of his “ingenuity”, or even dream about “lovely, abstract concepts”. What a crock of shit, Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator. If there’s anyone who suppresses “honest work”, “ingenuity”, and “lovely, abstract concepts”, its communists like YOU. Your kind have stuffed millions of such people into your stinkin’ communist gulags, beat them and tortured them and murdered them, all in the name of your blood-thirsty “Communist Ideal”. Originally Posted by Jim West Under a white nationalist economy, no North American company will be legally permitted to outsource jobs to non-white foreign lands, nor to any majority white country that condones, encourages, or engages in the importation of non-white immigrants into its territories.

Original Reply by Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator: And this is precisely why nobody will deal with a WN movement of any kind. You can burn all the Swazi flags and robes, you can all don suits or whatever, but at the end of the day you support capitalism either in word, in deed, or both. Ergo you have NOTHING to bring to the table. You're basically saying to the ruling class- "HI THERE! We would like to radically change society in ways that will limit your ability to make profit, massively reduce your influence in society, and ultimately cost you billions upon billions of dollars! What do you say?"Jim West, American Hero, now replies: Look bub, it just ain’t sinkin’ in, is it? The kind of capitalism YOU’RE talking about ISN’T the kind of capitalism that I am talking about. I am talking about a Modified Capitalist System (MCS) in which a WN government will lift the great burdens of affirmative action, race quotas, billions of corporate taxes Corps are forced to pay in support of never-ending welfare programs of every kind imaginable, both here and yes, even abroad. In short, under a Modified Capitalist System, capitalist corporations will save billions in tax dollars that our Jew/Liberal government has extorted from them for close to a century. My kind of Modified Capitalism will end that. And yet you don’t think the Corps won’t like THAT? So you’re wrong again, Mr. Commie. I have plenty to bring to the table. Maybe not in the gulag of your mind, but in the free and reborn land that America can yet be. Like I said, Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator, people like you are not my target audience. Instead, you’re every bit an enemy to the white race as any groid, gook, or greaser. You belong, instead, with the liberal Jews, who are your true ideological partners in crime. Originally Posted by Jim West Under a white nationalist economy, (and after the relocation of North America's non-white populations) billions of tax dollars formerly used to pay for North America's massive welfare programs, Head Start programs, Affirmative Action programs, drug and gang programs, teen pregnancy programs, AIDS programs, inner-city rejuvenation programs, multiculturalism programs, diversity programs, race relations programs, hate crime programs, and countless other wasted government programs used primarily by and for non-whites will instead be channeled into modernizing America's industries, highways, schools, and cities, until America is, once again, a clean, productive, prosperous, and safe nation, second to none.

Original Reply by Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator: Obviously, in your white nation there would be little need for some of those programs you talk about(yet don't specify), but that is beside the point. The fact is that the majority of recipients of welfare are white, not non-white. Furthermore, welfare is not the major money hole in the US budget. The two biggest money holes are social security(which is good) and defense(which in the case of the US, is simply ridiculous).Jim West, American Hero, now replies: Boy, are you ignorant, especially when you state this: “The fact is that the majority of recipients of welfare are white, not non-white.”

Here are the statistics on welfare recipients:
Traits of families on AFDC (1)

Race
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White 38.8%
Black 37.2
Hispanic 17.8
Asian 2.8
Other 3.4

SOURCE: http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-welfareblack.htm


Originally Posted by Jim West Under a white nationalist economy, America will sever all foreign aid to every non-white nation on earth.


Original Reply by Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator: Foreign aid is about less than 1% of the US budget, and has been so for a long time. Also, a lot of it comes with strings attached that actually has economic benefits for large corporations such as arms contractors. CAPITALISM strikes again!Jim West, American Hero, now replies: And ONE THIRD of that foreign aid goes straight to Israel, Mr. Commie. ONE-FUCKING-THIRD! So, please tell the rest of this forum what “strings” we’ve attached to Israel for all those billions we’re giving them? I’ll tell you: no strings at all. Israel takes our tax-payers’ money and does what it damn will pleases with it. “Strings”, my ass. As far as US arms contractors benefiting, sure they do. But they benefit no matter who they sell their goods to (as if Soviet arms makers DIDN”T as well!?) – what the hell do you expect them to do, give away their military technology for free? Besides, AGAIN, you’ve missed my point. Under a White Nationalist Modified Democratic System (WNMDS) there would be NO AID TO ISRAEL. None to Africa, or Asia, or to any place in Beaner Land, stretching all the way down to Tierra del Fuego. Nada, muchacho. Furthermore, under a WNMDS, our military budget would be far less, since we wouldn’t be supplying military aid to any country in the world, except, if needed, to our few white allies. Originally Posted by Jim West Instead, the unfathomable trillions that formerly went to the jungled pestholes of Asia, the teeming, mixed-race multitudes of Latin America, and the Third World hordes of Africa will now be spent on the restoration and high-tech ultra-modernization of America's cities. Where blacks and mestizos once crowded together in slums, living off welfare, using and selling drugs, and committing crimes, as well as white tax dollars that formerly went to black Africans who then bought weapons to commit slaughters against their own people as well as murder white farmers will now pay, instead, for American bulldozers to raze these blighted slums, cleansing the earth of them forever. In their place parks, playgrounds, and new white neighborhoods will arise.

Original Reply by Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator: Again, the premise is shaky because you apparently aren't aware of how that money is actually being spent, who is getting much of it, and so on. Also, realize that foreign aid to developing nations can potentially prevent migration to other European nations. Obviously no "WN revolution"(HA!) is going to strike everywhere at once, so cutting off US aid to developing nations would probably create a massive flood toward Europe.Jim West, American Hero, now replies: God, but you are both tiresome and naïve, especially when you bleat out something like this:“Also, realize that foreign aid to developing nations can potentially prevent migration to other European nations.” Holy Vladimir Lenin, Batman, he’s just not getting it! Europe and America has sunk trillions into the Third World over the past century, and you lamely believe that. “Foreign aid to developing nations can potentially prevent migration to other European nations.” Potential!? What are ya, blind!? The cat’s outta the bag, “Captain”. It’s already “The Camp of the Saints” over in Europe, for Christ’s sake! You, sir, with that one statement alone, you have proven beyond all doubt that you are a pseudo-intellectual commie fucktard of the first degree. Here, pin the Order of Lenin on yourself. (I got it out of a Cracker Jack box over in Moscow on my last vacation) Originally Posted by Jim West
Under a white nationalist economy, white American soldiers will never again shed their blood defending one non-white country against another. Never again will they die for dishonest American politicians. There will be no more Koreas, no more Vietnams, and no more Iraqs.

Original Reply by Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator: Once again, you are going to costs a massive chuck of US industry billions if not trillions of dollars with that move. There is profit to be made in those wars.
Jim West, American Hero, now replies: But there is even far more profit to be made in rebuilding America’s slum-wrecked cities, her nigger-destroyed school systems, her interstate highway systems, her decaying industrial infrastructure, and so much more. Originally Posted by Jim West Instead, the enormous wealth of American tax dollars that have been wasted on such wars over the last century will be spent, first, on the renewal of America, and then on the construction of lunar colonies and conquest of Mars. From there, instead of dying in some pointless future bush war, the first white Americans will one day set sail for the distant stars.

Original Reply by Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator: Ok, that's just looney.Jim West, American Hero, now replies: Looney? How is it “looney” when I state that America’s wealth will be spent “on the renewal of America”? Originally Posted by Jim West Under a white nationalist economy, there will be no more welfare system, as we know it today.

Original Reply by Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator: It is apparent from your previous statements that you don't know the US welfare system very well.Jim West, American Hero, now replies: I’m not talking about the “US welfare system”, other than to say it’s a failed system. To reiterate, I’m talking about the end of the welfare system, “as we know it today”. Big difference. Originally Posted by Jim West
Nor will there be any unemployment or homelessness.

Original Reply by Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator: How and why? You love capitalism, you wish to preserve it. Capitalism follows a natural boom-bust cycle. What are you going to do when your industries(since you will have to rebuild them in America) overproduce and the markets become flooded. The employees will naturally be booted. If you were still fighting imperialist wars like those in Iraq, you'd at least have a place for those people to go. Based on what you have shown so far, your WN nation will be filled with rising amounts of homeless unemployed people every time you hit a recession.Jim West, American Hero, now replies: Once again, you’re referring to America’s CURRENT version of capitalism, of which the America I envision will not make use of. So you’re talking about commie matzo balls while I’m talking about All-American apples. Again, there will be no shortage of employment in the US, since the entire nation will need to be rebuilt from the ground up, offering more work for American citizens than a hundred of your “Iraqi wars”. Get with the program! Originally Posted by Jim West These social ills, along with many others, will cease to exist.

Original Reply by Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator:. Why? How?
Jim West, American Hero, now replies: By, as I’ve already stated in my Proclamation: the humane removal of America’s minorities, the end of foreign aid, and the rebuilding of America from the ground up.

Originally Posted by Jim West Under a white nationalist government, everyone capable of employment will be employed.

Original Reply by Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator:How? Overproduction naturally leads to recession, otherwise companies can't compete if they can't maintain their profits. What makes you think you can change a couple hundred years of capitalist history?Jim West, American Hero, now replies: Once again, I’ve already covered this. Capitalist history – ANY history – can be changed. The capitalism of our nation today is rotted from the inside out, and that too can be changed. It’s quasi-communist, in fact, and needs to be gutted with the bayonet of Modified Capitalism® Originally Posted by Jim West
Most citizens will find employment the usual way, by applying to private sector employers. Others will seek work via the public sector, such as working for the city government or the county park system. However, there will always be a small fraction of the population that will find it difficult to secure employment, often due to minimal job skills, but sometimes due to limited intelligence. For this group of people, a white nationalist government will ensure employment, through one means or another.

Original Reply by Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator: How?

Jim West, American Hero, now replies: Another point I already explained in The Kendall Proclamation of 2006. Most people will find employment in either the private or public sector. Those who can’t will earn a welfare check in exchange for public service work. And those who simply cannot work, will be humanely rounded-up and sent to pleasant “de-commissioned workers” facilities, where they will be humanely moth-balled. Originally Posted by Jim West In every city, there are always parks to be tended, litter to be removed, streets to be cleaned. In short, there is always something to be done, and this group of citizens will be assigned the task. In return, they will earn a paycheck, a place to live, and a place in society. Admittedly, this is a form of state welfare, but one that is worked for, and never given simply for free. As to the homeless, most will vanish under this system, to become gainfully employed. The few incorrigibly homeless, whether due to mental illness, alcoholism, or some other character defect, will be taken into custody by the state and sent to relocation facilities where they can live humanely, away from productive society. The result will be a New America, its cities glowing with cleanliness and productivity, far beyond anything our present - and flawed - system has seen.


Original Reply by Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator: Yeah, sure.
Jim West, American Hero, now replies: You simply refuse to get with the program, Captain. In your case, you’ll need to be humanely moth-balled for the better good of all. Originally Posted by Jim West Under a white nationalist economy, raw materials may be imported from foreign, non-white countries for use in North American factories expressly for the purpose of manufacturing goods by North American workers. However, finished goods from foreign non-white countries, made more cheaply than many American goods, due to the slave-labor wages such workers receive, will not be permitted in a white nationalist America.


Original Reply by Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator: Again, you're going to the table of the capitalists of the world, and basically telling them you intend to level their profits by billions of dollars if not more. Not going to work.Jim West, American Hero, now replies: The status-quo can be changed. Adolf Hitler proved that. Josef Stalin proved that. George Washington proved that. Capitalism will go on, just re-channeled into richer pursuits, both for the capitalists themselves, and for the consumers that benefit by their industries.
Originally Posted by Jim West For a time, American goods made under a white nationalist government will cost more, because they will be made with higher-priced white labor.

Original Reply by Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator: Actually they wouldn't have to cost so much if..if....you resorted to some form of socialist PLANNING!Jim West, American Hero, now replies: But there will be social planning under a White Nationalist Modified Democratic System® (WNMDS) Whatever gave you the idea that there wouldn’t be? It simply won’t be of the murderous Soviet-style “social planning”, or of the Nazi militarization of the masses “social planning”. Originally Posted by Jim West However, with the elimination of America's costly and failed poverty programs, and the non-white millions that made such costs necessary, those same white American workers will be able to keep more of their paycheck, which will offset much of the higher consumer costs.


Original Reply by Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator: Non-whites are not the cause of those economic problems; capitalism is the cause of those problems.Jim West, American Hero, now replies: Your comment above isn’t even worth commenting on, because it’s so naively untrue. Originally Posted by Jim West Over time, white know-how will once again reassert itself, and its creative genius will build factories that will outstrip its foreign competitors, both in price and quality, and yet still afford white American workers a good living. This is the goal of a white nationalist America, a goal that one will never hear from a Republican or a Democrat or a National Socialist - but it is one you will hear - and hear often - from every citizen of a Modified Democractic System.


Original Reply by Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator: As long as you have capitalism, those with more money will always have the most say and influence. Even if you could put this into action, you are still going to have a ruling class- and sooner or later they're going to say "fuck this" and use their influence to break down your trade barriers and economic restrictions(which could be construed as socialism by the way).

Jim West, American Hero, now replies: But of course there’s going to be a “ruling class”. The USSR had a ruling class, the communist Chinese have a ruling class, Hitler’s Third Reich had a ruling class (Hitler himself!) and a White Nationalist Modified Capitalist State will have a ruling class. That’s the natural order of things. Simple. Natural. And tastes good too!

Originally Posted by Jim West Finally, under a white nationalist economy, white Americans will work only for the betterment of themselves, their families, and their nation. Never again will they toil in the sun or burn with sweat in the heat of a factory to feed a single black African, a single brown Guatemalan, or a single yellow Cambodian.


Original Reply by Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator: While that technically happens, the majority of tax dollars are going to defense. Also, the tax breaks and handouts to the rich mean that a large amount of middle-class taxes actually go to the richest citizens, most of whom are actually white.Jim West, American Hero, now replies: Not so – the majority of tax dollars will go towards the betterment of America and its white citizens. As stated earlier, a WN America will not involve itself in foreign wars, unless directly attacked. And our response to such an attack will not be of the George Bush variety, but of an immediate and swift nuclear strike against the enemy state. As an example, Mexico launches an attack against a WN America. Response: Mexico City vanishes from the face of the Earth. Game over. Originally Posted by Jim West Capitalism, when properly used within an advanced white civilization, brings forth untold benefits.


Original Reply by Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator: Capitalism is not like some kind of tool that you can "use" however you want. It is a complicated system with certain key features and you can't change that. Capitalism caused every problem you white about, and yet you embrace it and pretend it was "corrupted".Jim West, American Hero, now replies: Capitalism IS a tool, and, like any tool, it can be improved upon. It is not the saw or the hammer that is the most important to the final product, but the skill of the user. And capitalism has never been used as skillfully as it could have been. But, under a White Nationalist Modified Democratic System® it will be. Originally Posted by Jim West
But when its generous bounty is spread beyond the borders of such a civilization, as it has been into the Third World, it only serves to nurture inferior peoples, countries, and cultures, turning them into global parasites. That is the description of Africa today, a conglomerate of parasitical countries feeding off its host - the United States of America. But under a white nationalist economy, no American foreign aid will ever again reach those parasitical shores. Africa, like a white nationalist America, will be free to pursue its own course, its own destiny, its own fate.


Original Reply by Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator: Once again, you're pretending like something that amounts to less than 1% of the US budget is some big crisis that is a root cause of America's problems. It's simply not the case.Jim West, American Hero, now replies: Aiding parasites with the hard-earned money of white Americans IS a big crisis, since it fosters globalized parasitism, political corruption both here and abroad, instigates regional hatreds and wars, and turns white Americans into indigent servants to other nations, instead of masters of their own homeland, fate, and future.


Game over.

Jim West
01-22-2007, 11:14 PM
So, where are all your commie apologists, Captain Marinesko?

:viking:

Keystone
01-22-2007, 11:39 PM
[/COLOR]The capitalists are people that make their wealth through OTHER PEOPLES' labor.” [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Uh, yeah...What the fuck to you expect a capitalist to do, GIVE away his money to the groids in Africa, and say: [I]“Here ya go, niggers. Take it all! Fifty-fuckin’ million dollars and do whatever the fuck ya wanna do with it. What’s that? What was I gonna do with it? Well, I was gonna clear some land and grow some crops, build a copper mine, build a little settlement of white folks over there, and then some nigger shacks across the river where YOU can live, instead of in the disease-infested mud huts you live in now. Yeah, you’re gonna work your lazy butts off, but at least you’ll have three steady meals a day, (and maybe a few whip lashes too) but hey, I sure don’t see any high-talkin’ commies around here to help you out, since they’re too busy (meaning folks like YOU, Captain) plotting the mass murder of 100 million people in the mid-part of the 20th century, the Korean and Vietnam wars, and something called The Cold War, which they end up losing anyway, btw.”
:222: :222:

That was funny. And true.

Draco
01-22-2007, 11:41 PM
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ivory bill
01-23-2007, 12:22 AM
It would be great if these two side-show freaks, Jim (Harold Covington) West and 'Captain' (JPedobear) Marinesko, went at it on this thread exclusively page after page, week after week. More normal posters could drop in occasionally, just to stir them up.

Keystone
01-23-2007, 12:27 AM
It would be great if these two side-show freaks, Jim (Harold Covington) West and 'Captain' (JP) Marichenko, went at it on this thread exclusively page after page, week after week. More normal posters could drop in occasionally, just to stir them up.
They would never tire of it.

Leshrac
01-23-2007, 01:31 AM
Here are the statistics on welfare recipients:
Traits of families on AFDC (1)

Race
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White 38.8%
Black 37.2
Hispanic 17.8
Asian 2.8
Other 3.4

SOURCE: http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-welfareblack.htm

Let's just say :

Whites account for 220.000.000 of the population
Blacks account for 65.000.000 of the population

Whites outnumber blacks 4:1

And that :

Welfare recipients account for 40.000.000.

If blacks take around 40% of the welfare, it means 16.000.000 of them are on welfare, which means approximately 1/4 of their population.

Now for whites, let's say 40% too. It means 16.000.000 of them are on welfare too, which means LESS THAN 1/12 of their population.

These are totally bullshit numbers, but you get the idea. Whites in this example would even be entitled to be on welfare, since they contribute to 85% of it.

Straight Satan
01-23-2007, 01:33 AM
Jim West, American Hero
CATEGORY II MELTDOWN

Leonard Smalls
01-23-2007, 04:45 AM
Jim West is my hero.:borg: :hitler:

Dances with Wolves
01-23-2007, 04:54 AM
It would be great if these two side-show freaks, Jim (Harold Covington) West and 'Captain' (JPedobear) Marinesko, went at it on this thread exclusively page after page, week after week. More normal posters could drop in occasionally, just to stir them up.

I dunno IB, I was starting to lose faith in Captain Marstinko but anyone that Covington attacks is A-Ok in my book! :beerchug:

Dances with Wolves
01-23-2007, 04:56 AM
Jim West is my hero.:borg: :hitler:

See? Anyone that takes 9 inches from his jewish girlfriend has to be a supporter of "I fart in your mouth" :D

Jim West
01-23-2007, 05:05 AM
Jim West is my hero. There may be hope for you yet. You've taken the first important step - acknowledging your superiors.

PS: However, I'd drop the name "Leonard". Sounds Jewish.

Der Sozialist
01-23-2007, 05:11 AM
There may be hope for you yet. You've taken the first important step - acknowledging your superiors.

PS: However, I'd drop the name "Leonard". Sounds Jewish.
I am now fully convinced that this is an act—merely trolling for attention.

Leonard Smalls
01-23-2007, 05:19 AM
There may be hope for you yet. You've taken the first important step - acknowledging your superiors.

PS: However, I'd drop the name "Leonard". Sounds Jewish.

Hey, I requested a name change over a week ago so it's not all my fault. Personally, I blame the Joos.

Jim West
01-23-2007, 05:23 AM
I am now fully convinced that this is an act—merely trolling for attention. It's a known fact that individuals of limited intelligence and weak deductive powers often find complex ideas, so lucidly explained, to be "an act", in the same way that an adult can so easily induce his child to suspect he is "putting on an act" when he smears his face with "whipped cream" (shaving cream), simply because the child is unable to discern the actual and critical differences between two superficially identical entities.

In plainer English for the dullards present, this discourse appears to be "an act" for you, simply because you have no way of responding to something too complex for you. Try, and you'll see how quickly you will be smashed by brain-power literally unimaginable to you. Think of the Krell, and you'll begin to sense the yawning gulf that exists between low-grade minds like yourselves, and mine. Oh, never mind...I've asked you to think, and I dare say that's far too much to ask of someone like you, Der Sozialist.

Der Sozialist
01-23-2007, 05:26 AM
[...]
Is that the best you can do? Try again, Jim.

Leshrac
01-23-2007, 05:26 AM
It's a known fact that individuals of limited intelligence and weak deductive powers often find complex ideas, so lucidly explained, to be "an act"

I have weak magical powers, does that count ?

Jim West
01-23-2007, 05:34 AM
Is that the best you can do? Try again, Jim.No, Der, YOU try me. C'mon, show me whatcha got. Debate me, Der. Got the guts? Well, do ya punk!

Nah, you don't. Run along, junior....
:dance2:

Der Sozialist
01-23-2007, 05:40 AM
No, Der, YOU try me. C'mon, show me whatcha got. Debate me, Der. Got the guts? Well, do ya punk!

Nah, you don't. Run along, junior....
:dance2:
I am not in the habit of debating a washed-out nobody, wannabe-Capitalist, who collects disability and compensates for his mid-life crisis by throwing a tantrum on the internet and trolling all-around for attention.

Dances with Wolves
01-23-2007, 05:47 AM
I am not in the habit of debating a washed-out nobody, wannabe-Capitalist, who collects disability and compensates for his mid-life crisis by throwing a tantrum on the internet and trolling all-around for attention.


Bahahaha! An 18 year old just kicked your pig ass, PORC! :rofl:

Helios Panoptes
01-23-2007, 05:51 AM
It's a known fact that individuals of limited intelligence and weak deductive powers...

Der Sozialist is undoubtedly a highly intelligent individual.

ivory bill
01-23-2007, 05:57 AM
I am not in the habit of debating a washed-out nobody, wannabe-Capitalist, who collects disability and compensates for his mid-life crisis by throwing a tantrum on the internet and trolling all-around for attention.

No, that should be a job for 'Captain' Marinesko. Where is that Pedobear-loving hero? I'm saving my popcorn for his arrival.

Dances with Wolves
01-23-2007, 05:59 AM
Der Sozialist is undoubtedly a highly intelligent individual.

I agree. Der is very intelligent, even if a bit naive. Ah, the innocence of youth. I am refering to Der actually believing that negros debate when they have a white girl tied in ropes ;)

Jim West
01-23-2007, 06:01 AM
I am not in the habit of debating a washed-out nobody, wannabe-Capitalist, who collects disability and compensates for his mid-life crisis by throwing a tantrum on the internet and trolling all-around for attention. In other words, you know I'd crush you. :bbbat:

Jim West
01-23-2007, 06:06 AM
No, that should be a job for 'Captain' Marinesko. Where is that Pedobear-loving hero? I'm saving my popcorn for his arrival. Instead of stuffing your face with popcorn, you oughta come out swinging yourself. I've already crushed Marinesko, and will now only deal with the rest of you Marxist weaklings, that is, if you have one microbe of courage left in you.

But remember: Marinesko is defeated. Repeat that three times, then rinse.

As for the rest of you commies, I'll take on the whole pack of you. One against the mob, just like you cowards like it.

ivory bill
01-23-2007, 06:19 AM
Instead of stuffing your face with popcorn, you oughta come out swinging yourself.

Thanks, no thanks, I'll eat popcorn and laugh. You may continue your hilarious rodomontade until the object of your passion arrives; that slinking commie dog, Marinesko.

Read The Bride Comes to Yellow Sky by Stephen Crane in the meantime, Scratchy.

Jim West
01-23-2007, 07:59 AM
Thanks, no thanks, I'll eat popcorn and laugh. You may continue your hilarious rodomontade until the object of your passion arrives; that slinking commie dog, Marinesko. I have nothing further to say to Marinesko, anymore than a skilled-sniper has anything further to say to a hapless enemy soldier he's just shot and killed. I'm looking for new targets, popcorn eater. In other words, I'm ready to put the crosshairs on you, should you dare peek out from behind your popcorn bag.

Any others here want a high-caliber round of irrefutable logic between their eyes? I've a full magazine and my finger's on the trigger...waiting.

http://www.battlefieldsports.com/images/m16_river.jpg

Petr
01-23-2007, 08:18 AM
I have nothing further to say to Marinesko, anymore than a skilled-sniper has anything further to say to a hapless enemy soldier he's just shot and killed. I'm looking for new targets, popcorn eater. In other words, I'm ready to put the crosshairs on you, should you dare peek out from behind your popcorn bag.

Any others here want a high-caliber round of irrefutable logic between their eyes? I've a full magazine and my finger's on the trigger...waiting.
Does using all that faux-military jargon fill you with homoerotic glow? "Ooh, have I got a full magazine here ready for ya!" :rolleyes:


Petr

Helios Panoptes
01-23-2007, 09:48 AM
I don’t cry for groids, gooks, or greasers like commie agitators do.

But there is even far more profit to be made in rebuilding America’s slum-wrecked cities, her nigger-destroyed school systems, her interstate highway systems, her decaying industrial infrastructure, and so much more.

The Kendall Protocol is terribly difficult to abide by. Not even its author is capable of violating it fewer than 35 times per day.

Ahknaton
01-23-2007, 09:50 AM
Does using all that faux-military jargon fill you with homoerotic glow? "Ooh, have I got a full magazine here ready for ya!" :rolleyes:
He wants to spray it right between your eyes, apparently.

Captain Marinesko
01-23-2007, 12:50 PM
Ok, let us destroy your ideas yet again.

Jim West, American Hero, now replies: That’s like me saying that America was founded as an English-speaking nation, and then you retorting, “Hey, wait a sec! Not true! There were some swamp folk down in Louisiana who spoke French and Cajun, asshole, and out West the white pioneers heard Apache and Comanche spoken, along with Spanish!

If you were paying attention, my criticism was that you claimed America was based on capitalism. The problem is capitalism didn't exist in America at that time. The industrial revolution was just beginning in Europe. America would lag behind in industrialization for a long time, even into the 20th century.



SPANISH, by God! And what about Pennsylvania? Huh? Huh? What about Pennsylvania, Mr. Smarty-Pants?! Folks out there spoke German in some parts! And Swedish even, if you went further up towards Minnesota way! So don’t give me this bullshit about America being founded as an English-speaking nation! (foam, froth, drool)

I wasn't questioning that, I was questioning your claim that America was founded on capitalism.

[QUOTE=Jim West]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][B]Jim West, American Hero, further replies: [/B][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I’m ashamed of you, Commie Agitator, trying to be so disingenuous with me and the good members of this forum, especially when you try to muddy the truth that America was founded as a capitalist country.

Can you prove that America was founded as a capitalist country?


Whether tiny pockets of 18th and 19th century commies existed here and there, like the Oneida Colony, or other similar twisted economic cults like that, it does not for one instant change the fact that America’s Founding Fathers believed in a free trade system, where one could freely own land, grow crops and raise farm animals, and them sell them freely at town markets.

Apparently you don't understand what capitalism is, and it's almost as if you believe that there are two possible systems, Communism and capitalism. Yes the founding fathers were for free trade(as though it matters what the founding fathers thought), but you can't have a capitalist system without CAPITALISTS. Independent farmers(a long time majority of Americans), are self-sufficient. The fact that they sell their wares at markets does not make them capitalists. If that were the case we'd find many "capitalist" countries in Africa for example.


Or…that wealthy individuals could invest their money in tobacco plantations or Far East shipping, and freely seek out profitable routes of trade, and grow even richer because of their wise investments. THAT was the overriding economic system in America

No, it wasn't the dominant economic system.


– not the economic-shackling of Communism and Socialism, nor of “National Socialism”, not anything else.

Wow, that's REALLY surprising that National Socialists or Communists couldn't build a time-machine to head back to colonial America and present an alternative system to free trade isn't it? Socialism, Communism, and National Socialism are all results of the bad side of capitalism, one that you refuse to acknowledge. Ironically, all your "racial" problems are the result of capitalism, because those "wise investors" you speak of also liked to trade in slaves as well.




[I]Capitalism[/I], Commie Agitator. Now, as far as the “barter system”, that’s simply part of the capitalist free trade system at work: one man goes out into the woods and hunts beaver skins. His own effort, his own gun and traps, his own skill. A free man, in other words. Later, with twenty or so beaver pelts in hand, he goes into town and barters with the local General Store owner. He says, “I’ll give you five beaver pelts for a sack of beans, a keg of gunpowder, and a couple of them thar licorice sticks. How about it?” Instead, the General Store owner demands six pelts for those items, and the Hunter says, “Okay, (grumble, grumble) you got a deal.” That’s the free trade system at work, circa 1770’s and onward, Commie Agitator. Capitalism, in other words.

No, the barter system is not capitalism, I'm sorry.


One man’s capital (pelts) traded for another man’s capital (store goods). No communism involved. No Socialism involved.

It is already apparent that you don't know what capitalism, communism, or socialism is. The fact that you can point out similarities at certain levels between various systems does not make one the the other. For example, employee-owned companies or employee stock options are almost identical in concept to a socialist system. We don't claim that such corporations or firms are "Communist" or "socialist" however.



Just two free men trading their goods in a peaceful way. Today, American Capitalism has been warped and twisted by many factors, both inside and out, until the basic honesty of the original system has been replaced by corporate lobbies working with corrupt politicians to promote globalistic-greed in exchange for affirmative-action, race-quotas, multiculturalistic- indoctrination of white employees, under threat of losing their jobs.

Care to explain why that happened, if your system is so great?

WHO twisted it?

WHEN did that happen?





All this, and more, has crippled the great good that capitalism achieved in America.

Crippled it? Take a look at how much money American corporations are making now and compare it(adjusting for inflation of course) to companies back in that time before you believe it was "corrupted".



Yet, even so crippled, it [I]still[/I] crushed communist economies around the globe, foremost among them the former USSR.

How do the acts of traitors within the East Bloc prove the superiority of your economic system? Furthermore, if capitalism is so great, how do you explain the disasterous drop in living standards that have occured all over Eastern Europe ever since the official restoration of capitalism?

RACIALIST CONTRADICTION ALERT!!! RACIALIST CONTRADICTION ALERT!

Notice how "American hero" here badmouths the East Bloc, when in fact those coutries maintained the kind of racial make-up that he is advocating. Furthermore, anyone who lives in or has spent any significant amount of time in Eastern Europe knows that local cultural exhibitions were also the norm.

Isn't it hilarious to see all those idealistic WNs get so materialistic when the issue of capitalism vs. socialism is brought up?


All this you failed to see, [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator. Most important of all, you failed to see that I do not promote present-day “capitalism”, but a Modified Capitalism®, one of my own creation.

Given the fact that you don't even understand past or existing capitalism, I remain somewhat skeptical as to your ability to create and economic system.


And with this superlatively conceived economic system in place, it will be the final axe blade that decapitates both Jewish/Liberal “multiculti-capitalism” and Jewish/Liberal “multiculti-communism”.

When did "Jewish/Liberal" "multiculti-capitalism" come into existence, according to you?

I will inform you in advance that the reason why modern capitalism is "multicultural" is due to the inherent nature of capitalism, not due to some plot or conspiracy. The establishment acts in the manner it does because it is profitable, not because they have "white guilt", they "love Jews" or any other such nonsense.


As for “National-Socialism”, it too sucks the teat of Jewish Marxist “State Control” ideology. Therefore, it too must be butchered like a squealing hog with the same bloodied axe.

Please demonstrate the connection between Jews and state control of the economy.

Also, were you aware that in Fascist systems, the state and the corporations basically merge, so it is not 100% state control of the economy.

Lastly, were you aware that National Socialism WAS butchered like a squealing hog- BY COMMUNISTS? It has never recovered.



[/FONT][/COLOR][B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Jim West, American Hero, now replies: [/FONT][/COLOR][/B][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]A very simplistic and inaccurate analysis, Captain. South America had even greater amounts of natural resources than North America, during the Era of European Colonization, yet its European colonists never came even close to equaling the power and the glory of America. [I]Why not?[/I] Afterall, both North and South America had their problems with Indians, but ours were better organized and much fiercer, armed with both white men’s rifles and white men’s horses, unlike their South American counterparts. In other words, the Europeans who colonized South America had an easier go of it concerning the native populations, in addition to VAST resources of timber and ore, access to such nutritious and native staples as potatoes, beans, tropical fruits of every kind, incredible varieties of game, fish, and other resources that existed on a far greater scale than in North America.

What evidence do you have that opposition to American settlers was more organized than in South America? Furthermore, did you notice that South America has a lot of rough and in some cases impassable terrain(at least to people back then)?


Furthermore, South America was even more isolated from the rest of the world, with “all its power struggles and problems”. So, all your “reasons” for why America became what it was have just been shot to pieces, [FONT=Verdana]Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator.

Were you aware that there were colonial struggles going on in South America that were not happening in the North?



The real reason was indomitable white men and the freedom of capitalism.

Present proof of this.



That’s why America grew into the richest power on Earth, even while countries twice as large, with five times the natural resources (Czarist Russia) floundered in poverty, sickness, communist tom-foolery, mass murder of the proletariat, and other insanities, until they were finally destroyed by the superior economic system of the US.


Your view of history is incorrect.


Expressed another way, our Capitalist Jews kicked the livin’ shit out of your Communist Jews, only, in reality, it was mainly our white capitalists who kicked the livin’ shit out of your white communists.

Capitalism is not "Jewish"

Communism is not "Jewish"

Nobody kicked the living shit out of anybody, in case you weren't aware. FURTHERMORE, did you NOT just notice in your own rant you claimed that American capitalism has been crippled(without mentioning when).


RACIALIST HYPOCRISY ALERT!!! LEVEL II!

Notice our "American Hero" calls him self a "White Nationalist", yet he laughs and glorifies the destruction of millions of white lives.


So, any way you slice it, Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator, you and your beliefs are losers. And anyone who follows your beliefs are losers.[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Jim West, American Hero, now replies:

This is coming from a guy who sits isolated in the midwest, is probably twice my age and yet has no knowledge of economics or history, and designs flags and anthems while being generally hated by 99% of the very same people who share his core beliefs. Real American hero.




[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Very true, [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator – both European and American capitalists did indeed “exploit” the cheap labor of groids, gooks, and greasers world-wide. And…[I]your point is?[/I]

The point is, that were you not retarded, you would have noticed that capitalists do that because capitalism is based on profit, and not "free white men" trading goods or any of your idealistic bullshit.



Really, I’m not sure what it is. I don’t cry for groids, gooks, or greasers like commie agitators do. So, [I]♪“Don’t Cry For Me, Argentina!”♪,[/I] cuz I ain’t gonna cry for you. However, you FORGET that everywhere white capitalists “exploited” groids, gooks, and greasers, they got from us modern medicine, advanced farming techniques, neat gadgets their fucking Stone Age minds could never have conceived of, and, well, a whole helluva lot more.

Retard, I am trying to explain to you how capitalism's natural exploitation of cheap labor means your precious American economy is dependent on the Chinese, Indonesians, Mexicans, etc. But it gets even better! In order to maintain the status quo, the capitalists must ensure the reproduction of the worker. That means that workers in China and other non-white countries will lalways be paid low wages, but enough to reproduce. Corporations don't want to invest to the point where these countries become more industrialized(which would slow down or even reverse birthrates), because that would raise wages.



The Captain states: “[/FONT][/COLOR][I][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]The capitalists are people that make their wealth through OTHER PEOPLES' labor.” [/FONT][/COLOR][/I][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Uh, yeah...What the fuck to you expect a capitalist to do, GIVE away his money to the groids in Africa, and say: [I]“Here ya go, niggers. Take it all! Fifty-fuckin’ million dollars and do whatever the fuck ya wanna do with it.

Thank you for proving to this forum that you haven't got a clue about economics.


What’s that? What was [B]I[/B] gonna do with it? Well, I was gonna clear some land and grow some crops, build a copper mine, build a little settlement of white folks over there, and then some nigger shacks across the river where YOU can live, instead of in the disease-infested mud huts you live in now.

We're not talking about money in Africa moron. We're talking about the basic elements of capitalism. Let's say we live in 100% white country. It means that as a capitalist, I make massive amounts of wealth off the work of other people, who in this case would be white as well. Since I want to increase my wealth and power, pretty soon I realize I can do that by taking away the work I provide for the whites in my country and giving it to people in other countries. Can you follow that?


Yeah, you’re gonna work your lazy butts off, but at least you’ll have three steady meals a day, (and maybe a few whip lashes too) but hey, I sure don’t see any high-talkin’ commies around here to help you out,

You lost all coherency paragraphs ago, at least I'm nice enough to keep replying.


since they’re too busy (meaning folks like YOU, Captain) plotting the mass murder of 100 million people in the mid-part of the 20th century,

Please prove that Communists killed anywhere near 100 million people.

Please show proof that Communists plotted the Korean War.

Please explain why Vietnamese didn't have the right to an independent country, but American settlers did.



[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Let’s see…here’s a guy who works for a big ol’ meanie-weenie capitalist. He’s a car designer for this capitalist. He loves his work, he’s talented, and he makes real good money.

If you don't understand analogies, don't use them. It's kind of like a pig on a unicycle.


But in your warped view of things, [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator, that mean ol’ capitalist is just so gosh darn mean he won’t let that poor wittle car designer perform any “honest work”, or let him utilize any of his “ingenuity”, or even dream about “lovely, abstract concepts”.

Please explain what the fuck you are talking about here.


What a crock of shit, Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator. If there’s anyone who suppresses “honest work”, “ingenuity”, and “lovely, abstract concepts”, its communists like YOU. Your kind have stuffed millions of such people into your stinkin’ communist gulags, beat them and tortured them and murdered them, all in the name of your blood-thirsty “Communist Ideal”.

Archival evidence would show otherwise. Also this constitutes nothing but a lengthy "NO U" argument.



[/FONT][/COLOR]Jim West, American Hero, now replies: [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Look bub, it just ain’t sinkin’ in, is it? The kind of capitalism YOU’RE talking about ISN’T the kind of capitalism that I am talking about.

Unfortunately whatever the fuck the capitalist system YOU'RE talking about not only doesn't exist, but it will actually NEVER exist because:

A: You don't have the proper education to create an economic system.

B: Nobody outside of this forum knows who the fuck you are, and nobody gives a fuck about your ideas.


I am talking about a Modified Capitalist System (MCS) in which a WN government will lift the great burdens of affirmative action, race quotas, billions of corporate taxes Corps are forced to pay in support of never-ending welfare programs of every kind imaginable, both here and yes, even abroad. In short, under a Modified Capitalist System, capitalist corporations will save billions in tax dollars that our Jew/Liberal government has extorted from them for close to a century.

Ignoring the hilarious idea of YOU being involved in replacing the government of the United States, answer the following questions:

1. WHEN did this "Jewish Liberal" capitalism come about.

2. WHY did it come about.

3. How does affirmative action, welfare, foreign aid(which is still less than 1% of the US budget since I last checked), "cripple the US" economy?

4. Were you or were you not aware that the American economy has become even stronger since LBJ's Great Society program and all that entailed? Of course it would be IDIOTIC to suggest that this was connected to the rise of the American economy...just as it would be equally idiotic to believe that its problems are due to it.



My kind of Modified Capitalism will end that.

HOW?



And yet you don’t think the Corps [I]won’t like THAT?[/I] So you’re wrong again, Mr. Commie. I have plenty to bring to the table.

Corporations don't give a shit about your flawed conception of history, the white race, or any of your idealistic bullshit. If you think otherwise...

WRITE AN OPEN LETTER of your proposal and send it to some major corporations(Microsoft, Lockheed-Martin, Boeing, Halliburton, Bechtel, Oracle, etc.). Show us your letter first, then show us ALL replies.



Maybe not in the gulag of your mind, but in the free and reborn land that America can yet be. Like I said,

Hmm...Yes, you sound like the type who would lead a rebirth of America.



[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Captain Marinesko, Commie Agitator, people like you are not my target audience.

Really? Who is your target audience then; because it looks like everyone on this board hates you without regards to political ideology.


Instead, you’re every bit an enemy to the white race as any groid, gook, or greaser. You belong, instead, with the liberal Jews, who are your true ideological partners in crime.

What about the non-Jewish liberals? Or do they exist?



[/FONT][/COLOR]Jim West, American Hero, now replies: [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Boy, are you ignorant, especially when you state this: “[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]The fact is that the majority of recipients of welfare are white, not non-white.” [/FONT][/COLOR]

[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]Here are the statistics on welfare recipients: [/COLOR][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]Traits of families on AFDC (1)[/COLOR][/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]Race[/COLOR][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]--------------[/COLOR][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]White 38.8%[/COLOR][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]Black 37.2[/COLOR][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]Hispanic 17.8[/COLOR][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]Asian 2.8[/COLOR][/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]Other 3.4[/COLOR][/FONT]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=blue]SOURCE:[/COLOR] [COLOR=indigo]http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-welfareblack.htm[/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]

[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][B]Jim West, American Hero, now replies:

Are you taking into account all social programs or simply AFDC? Also, can you show the percentage of the federal budget that takes up? You'll won't be pleasantly suprised.


[/B][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]And ONE THIRD of that foreign aid goes straight to Israel, Mr. Commie. ONE-FUCKING-THIRD!

Care to cite a source for that?


So, please tell the rest of this forum what “strings” we’ve attached to Israel for all those billions we’re giving them? I’ll tell you: no strings at all. Israel takes our tax-payers’ money and does what it damn will pleases with it.

One example of a string is that money given must be spent on American manufactured weapons as opposed to domestically produced, European, or Russian weapons(which Israel has recently expressed interest in).



Besides, AGAIN, you’ve missed my point. Under a White Nationalist Modified Democratic System (WNMDS) there would be NO AID TO ISRAEL.

No aid to Israel? Wait till General Dynamics, Lockheed-Martin, Raytheon, and United Defense hear about that!!! PLEASE!! I BEG YOU, write a letter with your ideas to the senior leadership of those corporations! I can't WAIT to get their response! You want to be a LEADER right? A leader shouldn't be afraid of contacting a few heads of multinational corporations.


None to Africa, or Asia, or to any place in Beaner Land, stretching all the way down to Tierra del Fuego. Nada, muchacho. Furthermore, under a WNMDS, our military budget would be far less, since we wouldn’t be supplying military aid to any country in the world, except, if needed, to our few white allies.

Once again, that will basically free up less than 1% of the US budget, depending on what aid you're talking about. You forget that all that aid to Israel is powering vital sectors of the US economy.



[/FONT][/COLOR]Jim West, American Hero, now replies: [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]God, but you are both tiresome and naïve, especially when you bleat out something like this:[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]

You're talking about you installing a WN government....but I'm naive. Sure.


[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Holy Vladimir Lenin, Batman, he’s just not getting it! Europe and America has sunk trillions into the Third World over the past century, and you lamely believe that. [I]“Foreign aid to developing nations can potentially prevent migration to other European nations.” [/I]Potential!? What are ya, blind!? The cat’s outta the bag, “Captain”. It’s already [I]“The Camp of the Saints”[/I] over in Europe, for Christ’s sake! You, sir, with that one statement alone, you have proven beyond all doubt that you are a pseudo-intellectual commie fucktard of the first degree. Here, pin the Order of Lenin on yourself. [SIZE=1](I got it out of a Cracker Jack box over in Moscow on my last vacation)

Written like a true Statesman! I can't imagine why you haven't been more successful!

Why do you think Western Europe is so full of third-worlders, while Eastern Europe is not.....TIME'S UP!!! Because Western Europe was under something called "capitalism". Not "Jewish/liberal capitalism", not Giraffe capitalism or Delicious Ice Cream sandwich capitalism, but capitalism. The demand for cheap labor fueled the rise of immigration in Europe. Period.



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[/FONT][/COLOR]Jim West, American Hero, now replies: [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]But there is even far more profit to be made in rebuilding America’s slum-wrecked cities, her nigger-destroyed school systems, her interstate highway systems, her decaying industrial infrastructure, and so much more.

No, there's FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR more profit to be made selling F15s and other overpriced military hardware to Israel.


[/FONT][/COLOR]Jim West, American Hero, now replies: [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Looney? How is it “looney” when I state that America’s wealth will be spent “on the renewal of America”? [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Jim West, American Hero, now replies:

It's "looney" because you want to try to modify a proven, successful(albeit incredibly harmful) system with measures that will actually hamper it. You have nothing to offer the multinational corporations, which are more than happy doing business with the Third World as well as your buddy Israel.



[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I’m not talking about the “US welfare system”, other than to say it’s a failed system.

Really?


To reiterate, I’m talking about the end of the welfare system[I], “as we know it today”.[/I] Big difference.[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Jim West, American Hero, now replies:

Ok, and WHAT are you going to do with all those people on welfare?



[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Once again, you’re referring to America’s CURRENT version of capitalism, of which the America I envision will not make use of.

Capitalism evolves and grows, due to natural its own natural features, not due to ideological reasons.

WHEN did the BAD capitalism come about, in your insane worldview, and WHY?



So you’re talking about commie matzo balls while I’m talking about All-American apples.

You would probably retain a LOT more credibility if you actually WERE talking about apples.


Again, there will be no shortage of employment in the US, since the entire nation will need to be rebuilt from the ground up, offering more work for American citizens than a hundred of your “Iraqi wars”. [I]Get with the program![/I]

And....HOW will that happen, Mr. Wizard? Fairy dust? Magic lamps?

"my Iraq wars?" WTF?



[/FONT][/COLOR]Jim West, American Hero, now replies: [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]By, as I’ve already stated in my Proclamation: the humane removal of America’s minorities, the end of foreign aid, and the rebuilding of America from the ground up.[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]
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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Jim West, American Hero, now replies:

"Humane removal", to WHERE and HOW? Why don't you try to canvas some neighborhoods with your ideas and see how popular that is?



[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Once again, I’ve already covered this. Capitalist history – ANY history – can be changed.

That may be a Freudian slip on your part, because you literally do CHANGE history in your "proclamations".


The capitalism of our nation today is rotted from the inside out, and that too can be changed.

How? Why? When did it happen?


It’s quasi-communist, in fact, and needs to be gutted with the bayonet of Modified Capitalism®[/FONT][/COLOR]
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How is it "quasi-communist"? Who made it so?

BTW, I am quite certain that "Modified Capitalism", assuming it can be a registerred trademark, is not copyrighted by you. If I didn't live in Russia I would deliberately obtain a copyright on the term, just so you couldn't use it ever.



[/FONT][/COLOR]Jim West, American Hero, now replies: [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Another point I already explained in The Kendall Proclamation of 2006.

Oh..that's the one nobody gives a shit about right?



Most people will find employment in either the private or public sector. Those who can’t will earn a welfare check in exchange for public service work. And those who simply cannot work, will be humanely rounded-up and sent to pleasant “de-commissioned workers” facilities, where they will be humanely moth-balled.

I'm sure that will go over real well.



[/FONT][/COLOR]Jim West, American Hero, now replies: [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]You simply refuse to get with the program, Captain. In your case, you’ll need to be humanely moth-balled for the better good of

Ward, NOBODY is with your program. Doesn't it bother you that Communists have actually had more success in American politics than you have? Hell, even the Libertarian party has done better than you.



Capitalism will go on, just re-channeled into richer pursuits, both for the capitalists themselves, and for the consumers that benefit by their industries. [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Jim West, American Hero, now replies:

Capitalism will go on in the interest of providing wealth to the capitalists, and that's it. Mass immigration, foreign wars and intervention, and foreign aid are good for private corporations, ergo it will continue to follow these pursuits.


[QUOTE=Jim West][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]But there will be social planning under a White Nationalist Modified Democratic System® (WNMDS) Whatever gave you the idea that there wouldn’t be? It simply won’t be of the murderous Soviet-style “social planning”, or of the Nazi militarization of the masses “social planning”.

Oh I'm sure there WILL be social planning in your system!! And there'll be flying cars and break-dancing robots too!



[/FONT][/COLOR]Jim West, American Hero, now replies: [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Your comment above isn’t even worth commenting on, because it’s so naively untrue.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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This from the guy that claimed that Israel gets 1/3 of all US aid or something to that effect?


[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][B]Jim West, American Hero, now replies: [/B][/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]But of course there’s going to be a “ruling class”. The USSR had a ruling class, the communist Chinese have a ruling class, Hitler’s Third Reich had a ruling class (Hitler himself!) and a White Nationalist Modified Capitalist State will have a ruling class. [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]That’s the natural order of things. Simple. Natural. [I]And tastes good too![/I]
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Argument to nature... But I must ask why you keep bringing up National Socialism, which is dead and burried? Furthermore I am aware that there was a ruling class in the Soviet Union, however unlike you I actually know something about socialism, the purpose of which is to gradually eliminate class distinctions.


Jim West, American Hero, now replies: [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Not so – the majority of tax dollars will go towards the betterment of America and its white citizens.

That's not profitable however. At least not compared to the business major corporations are currently involved in at the moment. Also, are you forgetting how much US tax dollars are given to corporations in the form of corporate welfare?


As stated earlier, a WN America will not involve itself in foreign wars, unless directly attacked.

Lockheed-Martin and his buddies would like to have a word with you...


And our response to such an attack will not be of the George Bush variety, but of an immediate and swift nuclear strike against the enemy state.

That will be great for the environment! What a far more humane government, one that just nukes countries left and right!


As an example, Mexico launches an attack against a WN America. Response: Mexico City vanishes from the face of the Earth. Game over.

Radiation from fallout renders large parts of Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, and California uninhabitable. Gulf of Mexico becomes contaminated. Game over for the American south. Good job, President Fucktard, you just made George W. Bush look like Abe Lincoln.


[/FONT][/COLOR]Jim West, American Hero, now replies: [COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Capitalism IS a tool, and, like any tool, it can be improved upon.

The "improvements" in capitalism are based on what makes more wealth for the capitalists. Multicultural society, foreign wars, and immigration make more wealth- your ideas LOSE money.


[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]It is not the saw or the hammer that is the most important to the final product, but the skill of the user.

What did I tell you about analogies earlier?



And capitalism has never been used as skillfully as it could have been. But, under a White Nationalist Modified Democratic System® it will be.[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Jim West, American Hero, now replies:

Capitalism already operates far more successfully than it would under your system, which would cripple the economy after costing major corporations billions of dollars in profits, and then "humanely removing" large numbers of the labor pool at a time when unemployment would be rising.



[/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Aiding parasites with the hard-earned money of white Americans IS a big crisis, since it fosters globalized parasitism, political corruption both here and abroad, instigates regional hatreds and wars, and turns white Americans into indigent servants to other nations, instead of masters of their own homeland, fate, and future.[/FONT][/COLOR]

I guess black people don't pay taxes, right?





[B][COLOR=red]Game over.[/COLOR][/B]

If only it were that simple, huh Ward?

Captain Marinesko
01-23-2007, 12:54 PM
Is it just me or is it actually more difficult to debate with people who have no idea what they are talking about? I feel some sense of pity, knowing that this person is at least a decade older than me but they have to live out a pathetic life designing flags and anthems for political movements that will never get beyond his front door. The fact that a grown man feels the need to refer to himself as "American Hero" and me as "Commie Agitator" is also embarrassing. The sad thing is it seems more embarrassing to me than he who is without shame.


I think this proves it- he's a nutcase.

So far the only more insane poster than that which I have encountered is Celtic Patriot from SF.

Der Sozialist
01-23-2007, 06:41 PM
In other words, you know I'd crush you. :bbbat:
I will gladly debate you if say something of interest but until then, I prefer not to engage in mindless chit-chat with someone so obviously starved for attention.

Unlike you, Jim, I do not collect disability. My time is restricted—I do not take money from hard-working tax-payers while I launch in pointless, histrionic tirades on the internet.

But tell you what Jim, do this problem and I will gladly entertain the notion of debating you:

Show that for every Leibniz algebroid structure on π: E --> M with the bracket [.,.] and the anchors p1, p2, there exists an unique 2-contravariant tensor field Λ on E* such that the following relations hold:

i_E * [σ _1, σ _2] = [i_E* σ _1, i_E* σ _2]_ Λ

π*(p1(σ)(f)) = [i_E* σ, π*f]_ Λ, π*(p2(σ)(f)) = [π*f, i_E* σ]_ Λ

for all σ, σ_1, σ_2 in ∑ and f in C^infinity(M).


I am a nice guy Jim, so I will give you a hint—certainly, a person of such intellectual endowments as yourself could complete the rest of this problem with this very crucial hint:

Hint: notice that Λ = C^d_ab ∂ζ_d = ∂/ ∂ ζ_a (X) ∂/ ∂ ζ_b + p^i_a ∂/ ∂ ζ_a (X) ∂/ ∂ x^i - p^i_2a ∂/ ∂ x^i (X) ∂/ ∂ ζ_a

Where C^d_ab, p^i_1a, p^i_2a are in C ^ infinity (M)

il ragno
01-23-2007, 06:56 PM
Marinesko - what are you doing? You're actually arguing with a retard?

Jim West
01-23-2007, 07:41 PM
If only it were that simple, huh Ward? You lost, Captain Marinesko. All your counter replies that you just posted are merely the inane communist blatherings of a sore loser. I defeated all your arguments, putting a direct head-shot of logic, facts, and historical truths right between your frightened eyes. The impact of that shot flipped you over, your head half blown away, landing your lifeless body into the communist mud hole from which you sprang. And there, gradually, you sank away...

Now you're a ghost, talking from Hell. But that doesn't change the fact that you're dead, Captain Marinesko. You're dead in the sense that you never had a proper grasp of capitalism, either as it exists in its early, primitive form we call the "barter system", or as it exists today when private individuals or groups invest their money in economic enterprises, from industrial factories of every kind, to venture capitalists who "play" the stock market. All these are variants of capitalism. Banks, when they loan money to families to buy homes, are applying capitalist principles, ie, loaning money (at some risk to them) but in the confident belief they'll get their money back - with interest. (yes, Captain, they have done what you so dearly hate - they have profited.

Capitalism, Captain Marinesko, Mr. Ghost from the grave. Flawed, yes, and now seriously corrupted by liberal race-promoters who have shackled all capitalists with strict government controls, forcing them to accept their government-enforced lies of "racial-equality" so that they can still operate.

What a shame, eh Captain? All your communist ideals...poof!

Anyway, hope Marx, Engels, Lenin, and Stalin can now set you straight on what fools they all were, believing in that commie pap. But, whatever the case, Hell ought to suit you just fine, at least esthetically. Afterall, it's nice and RED down there.

http://www.plumparty.com/Merchant2/graphics/products/large/17714.jpg

ivory bill
01-23-2007, 07:48 PM
Marinesko - what are you doing? You're actually arguing with a retard?

And blandly purblind to the irony of it.
Besides, the captain doesn't argue with retards, he debates them.

MrAngry
01-23-2007, 07:58 PM
I will gladly debate you if say something of interest but until then, I prefer not to engage in mindless chit-chat with someone so obviously starved for attention.

Unlike you, Jim, I do not collect disability. My time is restricted—I do not take money from hard-working tax-payers while I launch in pointless, histrionic tirades on the internet.

But tell you what Jim, do this problem and I will gladly entertain the notion of debating you:

Show that for every Leibniz algebroid structure on π: E --> M with the bracket [.,.] and the anchors p1, p2, there exists an unique 2-contravariant tensor field Λ on E* such that the following relations hold:

i_E * [σ _1, σ _2] = [i_E* σ _1, i_E* σ _2]_ Λ

π*(p1(σ)(f)) = [i_E* σ, π*f]_ Λ, π*(p2(σ)(f)) = [π*f, i_E* σ]_ Λ

for all σ, σ_1, σ_2 in ∑ and f in C^infinity(M).


I am a nice guy Jim, so I will give you a hint—certainly, a person of such intellectual endowments as yourself could complete the rest of this problem with this very crucial hint:

Hint: notice that Λ = C^d_ab ∂ζ_d = ∂/ ∂ ζ_a (X) ∂/ ∂ ζ_b + p^i_a ∂/ ∂ ζ_a (X) ∂/ ∂ x^i - p^i_2a ∂/ ∂ x^i (X) ∂/ ∂ ζ_a

Where C^d_ab, p^i_1a, p^i_2a are in C ^ infinity (M)

ANSWER = 42. Taddah!!! :rofl:

Der Sozialist
01-23-2007, 08:02 PM
ANSWER = 42. Taddah!!! :rofl:
I was asking for a proof, not a numerical answer. Either way, this is a somewhat recognizable proof in differential geometry but is not hard to replicate—especially, since I steered him in the correct direction.

Jim West
01-23-2007, 08:04 PM
And blandly purblind to the irony of it. Besides, the captain doesn't argue with retards, he debates them Hey, Ivory Bill, how's it going? Gosh dang darn...are you yet another communist on this board!? Shucks. And I thought putting your little hero Captain Marinesko six feet under would've given misguided leftists like you second thoughts about this whole commie thing.

You seem like an okay bloke, Ivory Bill. But damned if I can't understand what you see in a ideological system that sent 100 million people to their graves, almost started a global nuclear war, and wouldn't let McDonald's into Moscow until Americans destroyed the USSR! McDonald's, for Christ's sake! Commies were begging for capitalist food, as this photo of Russians lined up waiting for their Big Mac and fries proves:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/heartlandusa/rusmac2.jpg

Ivory! Oh, Ivory!!! (er, may I just call you "Bill"?) It's plain as day, son! Folks don't like Captain (now corpse in Hell) Marinesko's silly-string, tiddly-wink economics, as these former Russian communists prove. Commies bring hunger, starvation, and death, wherever they rule. But Bill...Bill!!!! There's still hope for you, son. Just get in touch with your inner-self, and you'll see that I'm right.:)

Boleslaw
01-23-2007, 08:13 PM
It would be great if these two side-show freaks, Jim (Harold Covington) West and 'Captain' (JPedobear) Marinesko, went at it on this thread exclusively page after page, week after week. More normal posters could drop in occasionally, just to stir them up.

It'll be just like the whole Fade-Petr rivalry; only this one will be about Capitalism vs. Communism. :p

ivory bill
01-23-2007, 08:18 PM
Hey, Ivory Bill, how's it going? Gosh dang darn...are you yet another communist on this board!? Shucks. And I thought putting your little hero Captain Marinesko six feet under would've given misguided leftists like you second thoughts about this whole commie thing.

You seem like an okay bloke, Ivory Bill. But damned if I can't understand what you see in a ideological system that sent 100 million people to their graves, almost started a global nuclear war, and wouldn't let McDonald's into Moscow until Americans destroyed the USSR! McDonald's, for Christ's sake! Commies were begging for capitalist food, as this photo of Russians lined up waiting for their Big Mac and fries proves:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/heartlandusa/rusmac2.jpg

Ivory! Oh, Ivory!!! (er, may I just call you "Bill"?) It's plain as day, son! Folks don't like Captain (now corpse in Hell) Marinesko's silly-string, tiddly-wink economics, as these former Russian communists prove. Commies bring hunger, starvation, and death, wherever they rule. But Bill...Bill!!!! There's still hope for you, son. Just get in touch with your inner-self, and you'll see that I'm right.:)

So, you've decided that I'm a commie, have you? You might as well make me a jew or a nigger while you're at it, HAC.

I'd just like to know what drugs you're on...or off of.

I remain delighted that you have created this thread for yourself and for the remains of the unfortunate captain.

Do carry on.

Jim West
01-23-2007, 08:33 PM
Der Sozialist: My time is restricted—I do not take money from hard-working tax-payers while I launch in pointless, histrionic tirades on the internet. Saying your "time is restricted" doesn't mean it's so, Der. You seem to have PLENTY of time to blab on the Internet. Tell me, then: just how is your time "restricted"? I see not one whit of proof that it is. Der Sozialist: But tell you what Jim, do this problem and I will gladly entertain the notion of debating you: Not so fast, Jack. I'm not on here to debate math problems - I am on here to debate socio-political issues. But then...show me that YOU'RE worth debating. Tell me first what ancient culture these hieroglyphics belong to, and then translate them for me. If you're successful, then I'll address that equation for you. Fair enough? Good. Now, get crackin', son!

Question 1: What culture did these ancient hieroglyphics come from:

Question 2: Please translate these ancient hieroglyphics into English:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/heartlandusa/aztec.gif

I await your swift answers, Der. :munch:

Boleslaw
01-23-2007, 08:36 PM
Name of that picture gives the answer away Jim. Just to let you know.

Jim West
01-23-2007, 08:37 PM
IB: So, you've decided that I'm a commie, have you?I might be wrong there, Bill. Are you a Kluxxer, instead? C'mon, admit it, buddy. Let it all hang out. Nazi, maybe? Either way, good for you if you're not a communist, because they're the niggers of the ideological world.

Jim West
01-23-2007, 08:39 PM
Name of that picture gives the answer away Jim. Just to let you know.And what would that "answer" be, Boleslaw?

Boleslaw
01-23-2007, 08:40 PM
Either way, good for you if you're not a communist, because they're the niggers of the ideological world.

"Niggers" can found across the political spectrum, and no Im not referring to "niggers" in a strict racial sense.

Boleslaw
01-23-2007, 08:41 PM
And what would that "answer" be, Boleslaw?
Your picture saids Aztec.

Jim West
01-23-2007, 08:48 PM
Boleslaw: Your picture saids Aztec.Very good, Boleslaw. It's a good practice to always click on a photo's "properties", to find out its origin and other such clues, as you did.

Only thing is, it was a trap. A trap set for Der. I was waiting for him to say the same thing, but you beat him to it. In reality, however, these ancient hieroglyphics are not "Aztec", but Mayan. You see, once transferred to Photo Bucket, I altered the true origin (Mayan) to that of "Aztec".

Here's the proof: http://www.civilization.ca/civil/maya/mmc04eng.html

So, the hieroglyphics are actually of Mayan origin...

PS to Der Sozialist: You failed the test, butthead. Based on that, you're not worth debating.
:wave:

Vasily Zaitsev
01-23-2007, 08:50 PM
Der Sozialist isn't even on-line right now you moron.

Boleslaw
01-23-2007, 08:55 PM
Very good, Boleslaw. It's a good practice to always click on a photo's "properties", to find out its origin and other such clues, as you did.

Only thing is, it was a trap. A trap set for Der. I was waiting for him to say the same thing, but you beat him to it. In reality, however, these ancient hieroglyphics are not "Aztec", but Mayan. You see, once transferred to Photo Bucket, I altered the true origin (Mayan) to that of "Aztec".

Here's the proof: http://www.civilization.ca/civil/maya/mmc04eng.html

So, the hieroglyphics are actually of Mayan origin...

PS to Der Sozialist: You failed the test, butthead. Based on that, you're not worth debating.
:wave:

Wow.....so I mistook the hieroglyphics of one Mesoamerican culture for those of another. Yes....you clearly outfoxed me(or rather Der)! :rolleyes:

Jim West
01-23-2007, 08:59 PM
Wow.....so I mistook the hieroglyphics of one Mesoamerican culture for those of another. There was no "mistaking" on your part at all, Boselaw. You cheated by checking the "properties" of the photo, just as I knew Der would. In short, you didn't know jack shit about the origin of those hieroglyphics, believing them to be of Aztec origin ONLY because I faked your ass out.

PS: You failed the test too.

So do the right thing, Boseslaw: :suicide:

Boleslaw
01-23-2007, 09:03 PM
Upon first seeing them I knew they were Mesoamerican in origins. I clicked on the picture to check if I was correct.

Der Sozialist
01-23-2007, 10:18 PM
But then...show me that YOU'RE worth debating.

Not so fast Ward, I asked first, provide an answer then I will be happy to entertain any of your questions.


Tell me first what ancient culture these hieroglyphics belong to, and then translate them for me. If you're successful, then I'll address that equation for you. Fair enough? Good. Now, get crackin', son!
I find it amusing that you broke your question in two first parts. One, where you tried to trap me into putting down Aztec but the second question was completely unanswerable if I fell for your trap.

More to the point—I gave you a hint, Ward and a pretty good one. While you tried to trick me—nice try Ward.

Now Ward, can you translate the Mayan hieroglyphics? Remember, your question had two parts. My curiosity is piqued—I want a translation—character for character.


Just one more thing, what I posted is not an equation (which implies a statement of equality). I am certain that you will not appreciate the distinction but it would be comparable to me calling those hieroglyphics paintings.

You just got an introduction to pseudo-Lie algebroid structure. don't be shy to say thank you DS.

Lorcan
01-23-2007, 11:29 PM
I will gladly debate you if say something of interest but until then, I prefer not to engage in mindless chit-chat with someone so obviously starved for attention.

Unlike you, Jim, I do not collect disability. My time is restricted—I do not take money from hard-working tax-payers while I launch in pointless, histrionic tirades on the internet.

But tell you what Jim, do this problem and I will gladly entertain the notion of debating you:

Show that for every Leibniz algebroid structure on π: E --> M with the bracket [.,.] and the anchors p1, p2, there exists an unique 2-contravariant tensor field Λ on E* such that the following relations hold:

i_E * [σ _1, σ _2] = [i_E* σ _1, i_E* σ _2]_ Λ

π*(p1(σ)(f)) = [i_E* σ, π*f]_ Λ, π*(p2(σ)(f)) = [π*f, i_E* σ]_ Λ

for all σ, σ_1, σ_2 in ∑ and f in C^infinity(M).


I am a nice guy Jim, so I will give you a hint—certainly, a person of such intellectual endowments as yourself could complete the rest of this problem with this very crucial hint:

Hint: notice that Λ = C^d_ab ∂ζ_d = ∂/ ∂ ζ_a (X) ∂/ ∂ ζ_b + p^i_a ∂/ ∂ ζ_a (X) ∂/ ∂ x^i - p^i_2a ∂/ ∂ x^i (X) ∂/ ∂ ζ_a

Where C^d_ab, p^i_1a, p^i_2a are in C ^ infinity (M)

I dont know a great deal about Lebiniz Algebroids ,but I think Graboski beat him to it. this is I believe a standard proof which could be searched for with "lie algebra J.Graboski."In fact I dont think you altered the standard proof at all(granted i havent checked yet).




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Der Sozialist
01-23-2007, 11:36 PM
I dont know a great deal about Lebiniz Algebroids ,but I think Graboski beat him to it.
And Urbanski—what, did you think I was going to give him a problem that no mathematician proved before?

In fact I dont think you altered the standard proof at all(granted i havent checked yet).

I didn’t even give a proof but rather a hint. The proof is a bit longer but the hint is quite descriptive, so perhaps it reminded you of the proof itself.

That being said, now that Jim knows what to :google: to find this proof, the question is no longer on the table.

Der Sozialist
01-23-2007, 11:38 PM
I was asking for a proof, not a numerical answer. Either way, this is a somewhat recognizable proof in differential geometry but is not hard to replicate—especially, since I steered him in the correct direction.

Notice my earlier comment ^^^^

Lorcan
01-23-2007, 11:43 PM
And Urbanski—what, did you think I was going to give him a problem that no mathematician proved before?


I didn’t even give a proof but rather a hint. The proof is a bit longer but the hint is quite descriptive, so perhaps it reminded you of the proof itself.

That being said, now that Jim knows what to :google: to find this proof, the question is no longer on the table.
Your right,but I got my semantics wrong
I should have said you didnt alter the way the hypothesis to the proof was framed,you mathematicians are so pedantic:)

Since we are playing twenty questions do you have any book recomendations on Topology and Advanced Geometry in particular or do I only get an answer if I spew a few insane rants before I answer your maths questions?
:)

Der Sozialist
01-23-2007, 11:45 PM
Your right,but I got my semantics wrong
I should have said you didnt alter the way the hypothesis to the proof was framed,you mathematicians are so pedantic:)

Since we are playing twenty questions do you have any book recomendations on Topology and Advanced Geometry in particular or do I only get an answer if I spew a few insane rants before I answer your maths questions?
:)
What kind of topology are you interested in, discrete, differential, algebraic? Also, what level—are you a beginner, for example?

Lorcan
01-23-2007, 11:58 PM
What kind of topology are you interested in, discrete, differential, algebraic? Also, what level—are you a beginner, for example?
In honesty all of them.
more insterested from a Physics pov than a pure maths one but the best maths tends to find its way into physics eventually so I will not discount any of them.
Lets start at beginner (not strictly true but im fear self-study has led to a lot of gaps in my knowledge).

P.S Normally I would apologise on hijacking the thread,but not this thread, this thread deserves to be hijacked by Mike Tyson on PCP and then carried away on the the special needs yellow bus.

Der Sozialist
01-24-2007, 12:16 AM
In honesty all of them.
more insterested from a Physics pov
For Physics you should look into books mainly in differential geometry/topology. Topology and Geometry for Physicists (Paperback) (by Charles Nash, Siddhartha Sen) is a great introduction, and stress, introduction. It tries, somewhat, to present a balance between mathematical rigor and application that is suitable for the Physicist but in doing so it has greatly watered down the mathematics. Though, this would be a good place to start if nothing else.

A greatly superior but somewhat more advanced text is Geometry, Topology and Physics, Second Edition (by M. Nakahara). It covers just about everything one needs for theoretical Physics—imo. If you buy this book, make sure you look for something on a lower level.


Lets start at beginner (not strictly true but im fear self-study has led to a lot of gaps in my knowledge).

Discrete topology generally comes before differential and algebraic—you usually don’t come into contact with much algebraic topology until the graduate level.

For an introduction, I recommend either Topology (2nd Edition) (Hardcover) (by James Munkres) or Basic Topology (by M. A. Armstrong). The first is a great introduction; the second is more terse but still is suitable imo.

To obtain an introduction in differential topology, I strongly recommend An Introduction to Differential Manifolds (by Dennis Barden, Charles B. Thomas) it is cheap, short, but full of detail for the beginner. If you want something more advanced, try Integral Manifolds and Inertial Manifolds for Dissipative Partial Differential Equations (by P. Constantin, C. Foias, B. Nicolaenko, R. Temam). This is more of an applied text but is not skimpy on the math by any means—just what you want but I recommend a reference book just in case.

For an Algebraic Topology book, try Algebraic Topology (by Allen Hatcher)—this book is used a lot in Universities (graduate level but it is a fairly much accessible considering the topic matter)—be warned though, I have not completed this book as of yet though I have only heard good things.

Lorcan
01-24-2007, 12:30 AM
For Physics you should look into books mainly in differential geometry/topology. Topology and Geometry for Physicists (Paperback) (by Charles Nash, Siddhartha Sen) is a great introduction, and stress, introduction. It tries, somewhat, to present a balance between mathematical rigor and application that is suitable for the Physicist but in doing so it has greatly watered down the mathematics. Though, this would be a good place to start if nothing else.

A greatly superior but somewhat more advanced text is Geometry, Topology and Physics, Second Edition (by M. Nakahara). It covers just about everything one needs for theoretical Physics—imo. If you buy this book, make sure you look for something on a lower level.




Discrete topology generally comes before differential and algebraic—you usually don’t come into contact with much algebraic topology until the graduate level.

For an introduction, I recommend either Topology (2nd Edition) (Hardcover) (by James Munkres) or Basic Topology (by M. A. Armstrong). The first is a great introduction; the second is more terse but still is suitable imo.

To obtain an introduction in differential topology, I strongly recommend An Introduction to Differential Manifolds (by Dennis Barden, Charles B. Thomas) it is cheap, short, but full of detail for the beginner. If you want something more advanced, try Integral Manifolds and Inertial Manifolds for Dissipative Partial Differential Equations (by P. Constantin, C. Foias, B. Nicolaenko, R. Temam). This is more of an applied text but is not skimpy on the math by any means—just what you want but I recommend a reference book just in case.

For an Algebraic Topology book, try Algebraic Topology (by Allen Hatcher)—this book is used a lot in Universities (graduate level but it is a fairly much accessible considering the topic matter)—be warned though, I have not completed this book as of yet though I have only heard good things.

Much obliged ,these topics are not covered nearly enough in physics.My thanks

Kodos
01-24-2007, 12:48 AM
Throwing out graduate level math problems you probably copied and pasted where even the notation is hard to remember if you aren't in the course, also only mathematicians deal with these advanced purely algebraic problems.

Cheap shot.

ζ_

Ive taken Discrete Time Signals and have never seen this mathematical symbol in my life.

Der Sozialist
01-24-2007, 12:55 AM
Throwing out graduate level math problems you probably copied and pasted where even the notation is hard to remember if you aren't in the course, also only mathematicians deal with these advanced purely algebraic problems.

Cheap shot.

ζ_

Ive taken Discrete Time Signals and have never seen this mathematical symbol in my life.
It was a joke, Kodos. Obviously, I never expected Jim to prove it. However, our professor passed out a copy of this proof to us yesterday—I decided to transcribe it onto the phora for fun. So, I didn’t copy and paste it—it took me 15 minutes just to write the damn thing using word.

As to the symbol—really? I have it seen it as earlier as introductory Analysis. It is just a symbol—you can replace it with whatever you like.

Hlinkova Garda
01-24-2007, 01:04 AM
I am not in the habit of debating a washed-out nobody, wannabe-Capitalist, who collects disability and compensates for his mid-life crisis by throwing a tantrum on the internet and trolling all-around for attention.You would be wasting your time anyway Der .PedoJim is a
worthles troll the fact is he wont debate for the same reason he is a Pedo he like to feel/project himself as supperior

Der Sozialist
01-24-2007, 01:15 AM
Ive taken Discrete Time Signals and have never seen this mathematical symbol in my life.
My father owns just about every electrical engineering book out there—I believe I have seen this symbol in a book dealing with kalman filters.

Hlinkova Garda
01-24-2007, 01:35 AM
Is it just me or is it actually more difficult to debate with people who have no idea what they are talking about? I feel some sense of pity, knowing that this person is at least a decade older than me but they have to live out a pathetic life designing flags and anthems for political movements that will never get beyond his front door. The fact that a grown man feels the need to refer to himself as "American Hero" and me as "Commie Agitator" is also embarrassing. The sad thing is it seems more embarrassing to me than he who is without shame.


I think this proves it- he's a nutcase.

So far the only more insane poster than that which I have encountered is Celtic Patriot from SF.

what do you want to bet he sits in his Moms or Aunts basement fat belly overhanging his filthy underwear all the while playing with his little sim city/nation laid out on a card table match box cars and milk jug building lego houses post-its and make belive graphs all over the wall signafing all the great thought that has gone into his WNRCBS or whatever he now calls it

Ahknaton
01-24-2007, 02:17 AM
You would be wasting your time anyway Der .PedoJim is a
worthles troll the fact is he wont debate for the same reason he is a Pedo he like to feel/project himself as supperior
I had to pull Jim West up for this yesterday, so in the interests of balance, could you not resort to flaming someone by labelling someone a pedophile please? It's over the line.

il ragno
01-24-2007, 03:16 AM
Au contraire; what this place needs is constantly hurled accusations of pedophilia. And more American Heroes.

Kodos
01-24-2007, 03:24 AM
Au contraire; what this place needs is constantly hurled accusations of pedophilia. And more American Heroes.

Kikeopedophilia. Only a kikeopedophile commie jew mongrel would disagree.

Dances with Wolves
01-24-2007, 04:04 AM
Go Captain Marstinko, go! Kick porky's ass like a good commie would! I'm with ya, Kamarade!!!!

Ahknaton
01-24-2007, 04:09 AM
Au contraire; what this place needs is constantly hurled accusations of pedophilia. And more American Heroes.
Jim West should go by the nom de plume of REAL American Hero to go with his GI JOE flag.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/9/94/300px-GiJoe_TV-Title1985.jpg

JohnAFlynn
01-24-2007, 04:35 AM
There may be hope for you yet. You've taken the first important step - acknowledging your superiors.

PS: However, I'd drop the name "Leonard". Sounds Jewish.


Engaging in conversation with one's sockpuppets.

Category III Meltdown.

JohnAFlynn
01-24-2007, 05:08 AM
It's a known fact that individuals of limited intelligence and weak deductive powers often find complex ideas, so lucidly explained, to be "an act", in the same way that an adult can so easily induce his child to suspect he is "putting on an act" when he smears his face with "whipped cream" (shaving cream), simply because the child is unable to discern the actual and critical differences between two superficially identical entities.

In plainer English for the dullards present, this discourse appears to be "an act" for you, simply because you have no way of responding to something too complex for you. Try, and you'll see how quickly you will be smashed by brain-power literally unimaginable to you. Think of the Krell, and you'll begin to sense the yawning gulf that exists between low-grade minds like yourselves, and mine. Oh, never mind...I've asked you to think, and I dare say that's far too much to ask of someone like you, Der Sozialist.

http://www.tlig.org/en/messages/1059/


Ah! my Lord! Your Words are
mystical and hidden and many who
read You in Scriptures and in these messages
do not penetrate into their Knowledge,
for Knowledge of God they are;
they are illuminating our soul and
intellect and giving light within us,
yet, I know that there are those
who read without penetrating in the
wisdom of Your Words and they
appear as though sealed to them; and
yet, Your Words are
True Contemplation, Wisdom and Truth ....


:rofl:

Thomas777
01-24-2007, 05:45 AM
Other than Jared Taylor, is there anybody who you actually agree with and don't ineptly lambast and insult?

I mean, what thinkers and what precedent actually informs the PORK Proclaimation? Is it a completely original body of work?

Vasily Zaitsev
01-24-2007, 05:55 AM
I mean, what thinkers and what precedent actually informs the PORK Proclaimation?

The bullshit yahoo conservative zeitgeist and dose of good ol' fashioned nigger hatin'.

JohnAFlynn
01-24-2007, 05:56 AM
You lost, Captain Marinesko. . . I defeated all your arguments, putting a direct head-shot of logic, facts, and historical truths right between your frightened eyes. The impact of that shot flipped you over, your head half blown away, landing your lifeless body into the communist mud hole from which you sprang. And there, gradually, you sank away...

". . . and then you respawned and we played Blood Gulch Slayer again."

http://www2.fileplanet.com/images/130000/135623ss_sm2.jpg

Thomas777
01-24-2007, 05:57 AM
The bullshit yahoo conservative zeitgeist and dose of good ol' fashioned nigger hatin'.

Republicans who happen to also hate niggers are exceedingly boring and useless individuals. Their lives are really only a modicum more valuable than those of liberal democrats...and that doesn't say much.

JohnAFlynn
01-24-2007, 06:03 AM
Very good, Boleslaw. It's a good practice to always click on a photo's "properties", to find out its origin and other such clues, as you did.

Only thing is, it was a trap. A trap set for Der. I was waiting for him to say the same thing, but you beat him to it. In reality, however, these ancient hieroglyphics are not "Aztec", but Mayan. You see, once transferred to Photo Bucket, I altered the true origin (Mayan) to that of "Aztec".

Here's the proof: http://www.civilization.ca/civil/maya/mmc04eng.html

So, the hieroglyphics are actually of Mayan origin...

PS to Der Sozialist: You failed the test, butthead. Based on that, you're not worth debating.
:wave:


Wow, you must have been in the CIA or something to know such amazing filename-changing tricks!

JohnAFlynn
01-24-2007, 06:09 AM
Jim West should go by the nom de plume of REAL American Hero to go with his GI JOE flag.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/9/94/300px-GiJoe_TV-Title1985.jpg


Now he knows. . . and knowing is half the battle!

Captain Marinesko
01-24-2007, 01:10 PM
You lost, Captain Marinesko.

In what alternate universe did that happen? Is it the same one in which people other than yourself actually give a shit about your "Heartland" ideas?



All your counter replies that you just posted are merely the inane communist blatherings of a sore loser.

Surely if you say it enough it will become true! Couldn't it? Just maybe?


I defeated all your arguments, putting a direct head-shot of logic, facts, and historical truths right between your frightened eyes.


Logic? Where is the logic in stating that early America was not Communist or National Socialist? Where is the logic in claiming that capitalism in America was "crippled" due to social programs when in fact the American economy has actually done far better since those programs(though not because of said programs)?




The impact of that shot flipped you over, your head half blown away, landing your lifeless body into the communist mud hole from which you sprang. And there, gradually, you sank away...

How old are you Ward?


Now you're a ghost, talking from Hell. But that doesn't change the fact that you're dead, Captain Marinesko.

How old are you Ward?



You're dead in the sense that you never had a proper grasp of capitalism, either as it exists in its early, primitive form we call the "barter system", or as it exists today when private individuals or groups invest their money in economic enterprises, from industrial factories of every kind, to venture capitalists who "play" the stock market. All these are variants of capitalism.

I think you have clearly demonstrated that you don't understand capitalism.



Banks, when they loan money to families to buy homes, are applying capitalist principles, ie, loaning money (at some risk to them) but in the confident belief they'll get their money back - with interest. (yes, Captain, they have done what you so dearly hate - they have profited.

So you like the usury system?


Capitalism, Captain Marinesko, Mr. Ghost from the grave. Flawed, yes, and now seriously corrupted by liberal race-promoters who have shackled all capitalists with strict government controls, forcing them to accept their government-enforced lies of "racial-equality" so that they can still operate.


WHEN, did this capitalism become corrupted as you say, and WHO did it? I ask because the American economy is actually doing relatively well now, and FAR better than whatever earlier era you are nostalgic for.


What a shame, eh Captain? All your communist ideals...poof!


How old are you Ward?


Anyway, hope Marx, Engels, Lenin, and Stalin can now set you straight on what fools they all were, believing in that commie pap. But, whatever the case, Hell ought to suit you just fine, at least esthetically. Afterall, it's nice and RED down there.

How OLD are you, Ward?

Der Sozialist
01-24-2007, 04:02 PM
I am still waiting for Jim to translate the Mayan "hieroglyphics", character by character for the benefit of the gallery. Certainly, if you pose a question you should also know the answer.

ivory bill
01-24-2007, 04:14 PM
Marinesko - what are you doing? You're actually arguing with a retard?

Yes he is, and he's loving it!

Captain Marinesko
01-24-2007, 04:14 PM
Don't hold your breath. All Jim has "proved" is that America wasn't founded on Communism, something that wasn't in dispute.

What we learned overall is:

1. Ward is in love with capitalism, yet has no idea what it is. He also apparently has no idea that other forms of trade prior to capitalism are not "forms of capitalism". He won't figure that out until he figures out exactly what capitalism is and how it differs from prior forms of economics.

2. Ward insists that at some time in the past(which he won't specify), capitalism was great and lovely, but someone(he won't specify), at some time(he won't specify) "corrupted" it with affirmative action, foreign aid, etc. Aside from his blatantly false claims about US aid to Israel he forgets that:

A. The US economy has climbed steadily despite the creation of all those programs he bitches about.

B. Foreign Aid actually helps the US economy as well in cases where the aid is used to make purchases from American contractors or producers.


3. Ward's whole plan relies on establishing some kind of WN state, without ANY plan whatsoever to achieve that goal. In such a state, many problems that are a direct result of capitalism will disappear, because Ward says they will. It's like saying: Sure we have those problems now, but when we get to Mars like I plan to, that will be taken care of!


Last but no least...


We learned that Ward is a middle-aged man living in the Midwest with the historical knowledge of a high school sophmore, and the emotional/maturity level of a 14 year old. More than this, he is clearly completely delusional.

Leshrac
01-24-2007, 04:21 PM
Hmmm ?

http://nordiskaforlaget.se/_upload/KendallWard_SkymningOverTellus_stor.gif

Why would a midwest guy speak polish (i assume it's polish, dunno ;)) ? :D :negro:

Tiberius
01-24-2007, 04:25 PM
It's not, it's Swedish.

Leshrac
01-24-2007, 04:26 PM
My bad :)

Anyways, so he's swedish. Mind ask what kind of retard published his book :confused:

Helios Panoptes
01-24-2007, 04:34 PM
Anyways, so he's swedish.

It's a translation.

Mind ask what kind of retard published his book

A glorified vanity publisher.

Der Sozialist
01-24-2007, 04:46 PM
Don't hold your breath.
I won’t. The imbecile, known as Ward, gave me a glyph that has not yet been fully deciphered.

Captain Marinesko
01-25-2007, 04:28 PM
Strange how after "smashing me into little pieces" he disappears entirely. He probably realized how idiotic he is and finally ate a bullet.

il ragno
01-25-2007, 04:50 PM
Nah. He just posted the entire "Kendall Proclamation" at VNN Forum. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Straight Satan
01-26-2007, 06:13 AM
I suspect that "Ward Kendall" is a nom de plume...

Are you thinking what I'm thinking? :jew:

Hey, don't laugh--it's happened before!

ivory bill
01-26-2007, 06:24 AM
I suspect that "Ward Kendall" is a nom de plume...

Are you thinking what I'm thinking? :jew:

Hey, don't laugh--it's happened before!

It's most likely that "Ward Kendall" is a nom de plume for an off-his-meds Harold A. Covington.

Petr
01-26-2007, 06:34 AM
Nah. He just posted the entire "Kendall Proclamation" at VNN Forum. Lather, rinse, repeat.
I would like to see Ward Kendall and Brandon Orr in debate. :p


Petr

Captain Marinesko
01-26-2007, 10:53 AM
Kendall is not Harold Covington. Covington may be a White Nationalist, but he is far more intelligent than a great deal of other WN celebrities. More than this, he doesn't go all-out to destroy swastikas or whatever.