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LastResort56
01-28-2007, 03:54 AM
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Looking through Wikipedia today and found this, "100 Greatest Americans" Here is the list of shining Americans that AOL believes made the world a better place. Notice the bolded names, all magnificent and definitely deserve to be there.

The Top 25
Ronald Reagan - 24% - named "Greatest American".
Abraham Lincoln - 23.5%
Martin Luther King, Jr. - 19.7% - named "Greatest African American"
George Washington - 17.7%
Benjamin Franklin - 14.9%
George W. Bush - named "Greatest Living American"
Bill Clinton
Elvis Presley - named "America's Greatest Entertainer"
Oprah Winfrey - named "Greatest Woman in American history"
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Billy Graham
Thomas Jefferson
Walt Disney
Albert Einstein - named "Greatest American Scientist" & "Greatest Jewish American"
Thomas Alva Edison
John F. Kennedy
Bob Hope
Bill Gates
Eleanor Roosevelt - named "America's Greatest First Lady"
Lance Armstrong - named America's "Greatest Athlete"
Muhammad Ali
Rosa Parks
The Wright Brothers
Henry Ford
Neil Armstrong

And here are the other 75
Maya Angelou
Susan B. Anthony
Lucille Ball
Alexander Graham Bell
Barbara Bush
George H. W. Bush
Laura Bush
Andrew Carnegie
Johnny Carson
Jimmy Carter
George Washington Carver
Ray Charles
César Chávez
Hillary Rodham Clinton
Bill Cosby
Tom Cruise
Ellen DeGeneres
Frederick Douglass
Amelia Earhart
Clint Eastwood
John Edwards
Dwight D. Eisenhower
Brett Favre
Mel Gibson
Rudy Giuliani
John Glenn
Alexander Hamilton
Tom Hanks
Hugh Hefner
Katharine Hepburn
Howard Hughes
Michael Jackson
Steve Jobs
Lyndon B. Johnson
Michael Jordan
Helen Keller
Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis
Robert F. Kennedy
Rush Limbaugh
Charles Lindbergh
George Lucas
Madonna
Malcolm X
Phil McGraw
Marilyn Monroe
Michael Moore
Audie Murphy
Richard M. Nixon
Barack Obama For fucks sake. Why the hell does America keep insisting that this man is so spectacular.
Jesse Owens
George S. Patton
Colin Powell
Christopher Reeve
Condoleezza Rice
Jackie Robinson
Theodore Roosevelt
Babe Ruth
Carl Sagan
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Frank Sinatra
Joseph Smith, Jr.
Steven Spielberg
James Stewart
Martha Stewart :confused: How the fuck did she get on there
Nikola Tesla
Pat Tillman
Harry Truman
Donald Trump
Harriet Tubman
Mark Twain
Sam Walton
John Wayne
Tiger Woods
Chuck Yeager
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greatest_American

Straight Satan
01-28-2007, 06:16 AM
It's a disproportionate number of celebs and civil rights types, with a few predictable Presidents thrown in. Fuck, this country is a joke.

Mike
01-28-2007, 07:25 AM
Obviously a lot of it is a joke. It's focus group driven. A few that I assumed they'd omit, they did not: Teddy Roosevelt, Thomas Edison, Patton, Henry Ford. The last proves it is not Jew-driven.

Maybe it's too late an hour, but it seems difficult to think of people who should on the list but who were not. MacArthur, American military mastermind, is certainly one.

Let the posts that follow this offer corrections to this bogus list!

It's a disproportionate number of celebs and civil rights types, with a few predictable Presidents thrown in. Fuck, this country is a joke.

Richard Parker
01-28-2007, 07:26 AM
I agree with the majority of the bolding, assuming it means "WTF :confused: ".

Although I'm surprised you didn't bold Reagan. I suppose he belongs somewhere in the list, but definitely not as The Greatest American of all time. Among preidents alone there must be many who would be "greater".

Richard Parker
01-28-2007, 07:29 AM
Let the posts that follow this offer corrections to this bogus list!

Bob Dylan.
(And no, not because he is Jewish)

Mike
01-28-2007, 07:37 AM
OK time to get serious - installment #1.

America is a great White nation, perhaps the greatest yet. Considering we are using transistor-based technology to read this very thread, how about the undeniable American genius William Shockley.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shockley

Mike
01-28-2007, 07:51 AM
Okay, to make it more interesting let's explicitly replace the idiotic choices with real ones. Anyone can make suggestions, but only Americans are the Deciders.

I hereby propose that

- The scientist William Shockley replace perverted degenerate Hugh Hefner.

- Gifted poet Edgar Allan Poe replace the pretentious negro bitch Maya Angelou.

Mike
01-28-2007, 07:59 AM
I propose that physicist and WN commentator Dr. William L. Pierce replace philosemitic fat-ass blowhard Rush Limbaugh.

Mike
01-28-2007, 08:16 AM
I propose that "Old Hickory" Andrew Jackson replace negro fruitcake Michael Jackson.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Jackson

I'm starting to think we should chuck this list and start from scratch.

kultron
01-28-2007, 05:09 PM
Nikola Tesla, Alexander Graham Bell, and Albert Einstein aren't American.

Jimbo Gomez
01-28-2007, 05:18 PM
Hahaha, your people voted Hugh Heffner into a higher position than Teddy Roosevelt.

ironweed
01-28-2007, 05:38 PM
Hahaha, your people voted Hugh Heffner into a higher position than Teddy Roosevelt.

The bottom list is alphabetical, not by votes received. So we can't tell.

Straight Satan
01-28-2007, 08:03 PM
OK time to get serious - installment #1.

America is a great White nation, perhaps the greatest yet. Considering we are using transistor-based technology to read this very thread, how about the undeniable American genius William Shockley.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Shockley

Shockley's contribution is head and shoulders above even most Presidents, who are basically figureheads anyway.

That list is too concerned with "personalities" and since most idiot Americans are familar mainly with those who they see on the TV, that's who they're going to list.

How embarrassing--Tom Hanks, Ellen Degenerate, etc. Give me a break.

Janus
01-28-2007, 08:31 PM
Robert Lee, David Crockett, Merriwether Lewis, William Clark, Samuel Adams, Ralph Waldo Emerson, Henry David Thoreau, and Thomas Jackson should be added to the list.

Jimbo Gomez
01-28-2007, 08:52 PM
How about General Custer? :D

koch curve
01-28-2007, 10:06 PM
yeah like the poll wasnt inundated with duplicate tom cruise votes from scientologists

Burrhus
01-28-2007, 10:54 PM
Burrhus Frederick Skinner, better known as B.F.Skinner #1

The rest in no particular order
Charles Lindbergh Jr.
Gen.Robert E. Lee
Charles Austin Beard, historian
James Watson, DNA scientist
Sen. John C. Calhoun
Ezra Pound, for his integrity not his poetry
Charles Bukowski, for both his integrity and his poetry
Grover Cleveland, the best president in a generally bad lot of fools
Hank Williams I, our greatest songwriter
Bob Dylan, our second greatest songwriter
Stephen Foster, third greatest songwriter
Thomas Paine
Gen. Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson
Pat Buchanan
Jackson Pollack (it's a long story)
Thomas Jefferson, great intellect, decent president
Rep. Ron Paul (Tex.), currently running for President
Arthur Butz, The Hoax of the Twentieth Century
George Wallace, up to a point
Lillian Gish, elegant actress
D.W. Griffith, Birth of a Nation

J Van Der Meyde
01-28-2007, 10:58 PM
I stopped reading at Oprah Winfrey.

I should have stopped earlier.

Fenrisulfr
01-28-2007, 11:00 PM
This degenerate list depicts our modern society perfectly.

Where else could a pornographer, a communist ape, and a comedic lesbian be considered "great"?

omni
01-29-2007, 01:52 AM
I guess Reagan received so many votes because he started out as an actor. Goes to show that everyone in this country just sits in front of the tv or goes to the movies every time they get a free minute.

Where's F. Scott Fitzgerald? Where's William James?

Sulla the Dictator
01-29-2007, 01:55 AM
Maybe it's too late an hour, but it seems difficult to think of people who should on the list but who were not. MacArthur, American military mastermind, is certainly one.


I really don't like MacArthur. I don't understand why so many people do.

LastResort56
01-29-2007, 02:00 AM
Originally Posted by Omni
I guess Reagan received so many votes because he started out as an actor. Goes to show that everyone in this country just sits in front of the tv or goes to the movies every time they get a free minute.

Where's F. Scott Fitzgerald? Where's William James?

Reagan is probably number one because when the poll was taken(about a yr ago), he had recently pasted away. At least thats what I'm guessing. Otherwise there is no doubt in my mind that Oprah would have taken first place.

Trolland
01-29-2007, 03:07 AM
Ronald Reagan - 24% - named "Greatest American".
Pat Tillman

I'm ashamed.

Johnson
01-29-2007, 03:23 AM
Why is Julian Lee not on that list?

Sulla the Dictator
01-29-2007, 03:25 AM
Ronald Reagan was one of the greatest presidents of the 20th century. His presence on the list is entirely valid.

Starr
01-29-2007, 05:25 AM
Oprah Winfrey - named "Greatest Woman in American history

You have got to be kidding me. What in the world do people think is great about Oprah? The greatest women in american history? Further proof of what a bunch of idiots a lot of people are today(I also assume, unfortunately, that the majority of Oprah votes came from those of my gender:whip: Christ, maybe women shouldn't be allowed to vote:rofl: ) This, on my end, has nothing to do with her being black. If this was a white women with the same so-called accomplishments I would be saying the same thing. The celebrities, including, Martha Stewart, also should not even be on the list. I can't help but to also view this as insulting to women. I can't stand Hilary Clinton, for example, but she is "greater" than Oprah(and that is not saying much) Susan B. Anthony is also greater than Oprah. Why wouldn't they be in a higher position in people's minds, whether they personally like these women or not?

Ronald Reagan was one of the greatest presidents of the 20th century. His presence on the list is entirely valid

OMG! we agree on something.:eek: this is not saying I either liked or disliked him.

OVERWATCH
01-29-2007, 07:41 AM
Shockley is a good choice, he was the first one that came to mind.


Gen. George Marshall (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Marshall)
Gen. 'Mad Anthony' Wayne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Wayne)
Gen. J.E.B. Stuart (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J.E.B._Stuart)
Gen. Lewis 'Chesty' Puller (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesty_Puller)
Eddie Rickenbacker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_Rickenbacker)
George Gay (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._Gay%2C_Jr.)
Steve Jobs/Steve Wozniak (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Computer)
Ethan Allen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethan_Allen)
Daniel Boone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Boone)
John Moses Browning (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Browning)
G. Gordon Liddy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G._Gordon_Liddy)
William Henry Harrison (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Henry_Harrison)
Andrew Jackson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Jackson)
Johnny Appleseed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Appleseed)
Paul Revere (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Revere)
A.J. Foyt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A.J._Foyt)
Gy. Sgt. R. Lee Ermey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Lee_Ermey) :drillsergeant:

Straight Satan
01-29-2007, 08:06 AM
How about General Curtis "back to the stone age" LeMay. I mention him because he rained thousands of tons of magnesium, white phosphorous, thermite and high explosive bombs on the beloved land of Nippon (he referred to the missions as "fire jobs").

He also later ran on George Wallace's ticket. Most people these days either aren't really aware of him, or view him as just a trigger-happy psycho.

OVERWATCH
01-29-2007, 08:17 AM
How about General Curtis "back to the stone age" LeMay. I mention him because he rained thousands of tons of magnesium, white phosphorous, thermite and high explosive bombs on the beloved land of Nippon (he referred to the missions as "fire jobs").

He also later ran on George Wallace's ticket. Most people these days either aren't really aware of him, or view him as just a trigger-happy psycho.

Yeah, I forgot about him :D

Also:

Adm. Chester Nimitz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chester_Nimitz)
Judge Roy Bean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Bean)
Grizzly Adams (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James/John_Capen_%22Grizzly%22_Adams)
Wild Bill Hickok (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Bill_Hickok)
Jesse James (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_James_1847)

il ragno
01-29-2007, 08:21 AM
Ronald Reagan was one of the greatest presidents of the 20th century. His presence on the list is entirely valid.

Y'know, he was a charismatic enough guy, and maybe he might have made a difference if he'd won in '68 when he was a somewhat younger man, but Reagan was, in retrospect, a disaster. His delegate-major-decisions management style, which is usually referred to as 'laziness' when somebody other than the boss does it, opened the floodgates for the neocons, speculators and Ponzi-paper pushers to come streaming in. If America hardly seems like America these days - physically, spiritually, or culturally - a lot of the reasons why can be traced to Ronnie's 8 years.

You'd never know it from his rhetoric, his persona or his carefully-cultivated legend; and I think in his heart he was well-meaning. But he was neither very bright nor particularly strong-willed, and after too many years of fronting for corporate interests on the rubber chicken circuit, fixers of every stripe were drawn to him because he was so susceptible to them

J Van Der Meyde
01-29-2007, 11:40 AM
Every time I flick through the channels and I see the Oprah Winfrey show I notice that the audience is almost entirely composed of white females.

Americans have themselves to blame for such a ludicrous person being so high up on the list.

Straight Satan
01-31-2007, 02:12 AM
Will anybody hold it against me if I nominate Joseph Paul Franklin?