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kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
01-29-2007, 02:06 AM
Is it just me, or is this forum being over-flooded by people who are essentially ruining the unique character of this forum and turning it into VNN number 2.

I voted for one.

Mentious
01-29-2007, 02:21 AM
I consider the quality to be very low because of:

-- the homosexual trolls who offer nothing but perverse crudities; coy sarcasm, gross character assassination, and baseball scores.

-- lowlife "macho" perverts here like "Ugly American" and "Hachiko," and

-- vile "racist" homosexuals like Keystone.

I try to be positive in my posts and contribute information or sincere opinion. These posters just talk garbage, garbage, and more garbage. One has to answer their gross defamation, so threads get hijacked and cluttered up. Utterly disgusting people.

sugartits
01-29-2007, 02:28 AM
To a person who browses the forum regularily, it will likely seem that way at many times.

It is perfectly natural that there are less quality posts than low quality.

Quality content previously posted has not been removed to my knowledge, so I would say that the forum retains its unique character.

Of course, the new and novel is often more stimulating than the now dead, but interesting and quality-possessing threads, which once were active. It is strange that they are now ignored and forgetten despite how full of quality and how highbrowluscious they were (are?)

Ahknaton
01-29-2007, 02:29 AM
The signal-to-noise ratio of the board has been up and down a bit lately, but there have been many good posters join up in the last 6 months or so: HrodbertPalatinus, Thoth, *Nick*, sprinklehopper and several others. This more than makes up for the low-quality posts IMHO.

Helios Panoptes
01-29-2007, 02:31 AM
Nothing out of the ordinary. Some weeks the discussions will be especially good, others they will be lacking. Whatever the change in the quality of posts, it wasn't a significant enough departure for me to take note.

I miss the posts of Scamander and Uptight Seattlite.

LastResort56
01-29-2007, 02:32 AM
No drop in quality. The "name the jew" freaks have always been here kane.

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
01-29-2007, 02:40 AM
No drop in quality. The "name the jew" freaks have always been here kane.
I believe they are even more stupid and more frequent now. But it isn't just that. I believe the good posters are packing their bags.

OVERWATCH
01-29-2007, 02:41 AM
The better threads are in the Lyceum. The Lounge is for chit chat.

There has been no decline, but there has been an overall increase in members in the last six months.

OVERWATCH
01-29-2007, 02:42 AM
I believe the good posters are packing their bags.

Examples ?

Helios Panoptes
01-29-2007, 02:42 AM
I believe they are even more stupid and more frequent now. But it isn't just that. I believe the good posters are packing their bags.

Which posters have packed their bags because there are too many "jew namers"?

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
01-29-2007, 02:46 AM
Well I for one notice less of the Socialists posting, and less of the Catholics posting (even though I don't like Catholics).

I don't know. Maybe its the same people posting and the quality just dropped, or maybe I'm just not amazed anymore because the "newness" of the forum wore off.

Then again, when I started out, I was moderately on the side of the people who are against jews, but I switched my position, so that could explain a lot in terms of how my view of the forum would then change. As much as you say I hammer the issue, I think everyone else is obsessed to be honest.

Mentious
01-29-2007, 02:51 AM
...but there have been many good posters join up in the last 6 months or so: HrodbertPalatinus, Thoth, *Nick*, sprinklehopper and several others. This more than makes up for the low-quality posts IMHO.
Some of these are indeed superb posters.

Der Sozialist
01-29-2007, 02:55 AM
The problem is, for the most part, we are all familiar with each other. Thus, fewer debates take place because we are all acquainted with each others view points.

We need some "new blood" if you will—some anti-racists and/or neo-cons would be interesting since we have so few of these on this forum and since the few that we have tend to avoid debates on these very issues (Mr. Angry does not qualify).

I was expecting some posters from that Canadian Music forum to join but it appears that none are interested.

Mentious
01-29-2007, 02:57 AM
I really enjoy the few Jews that are posting on here. I find their views very interesting, and I think that sincere Jew-Gentile dialogue, really open dialogue, is very important in this age. (In all ages, more like.)

John Abney-Hastings
01-29-2007, 03:06 AM
Yes, a lot more glib one-line replies, from people like myself.

Kodos
01-29-2007, 03:09 AM
I consider the quality to be very low because of:

-- the homosexual trolls who offer nothing but perverse crudities; coy sarcasm, gross character assassination, and baseball scores.

-- lowlife "macho" perverts here like "Ugly American" and "Hachiko," and

-- vile "racist" homosexuals like Keystone.

I try to be positive in my posts and contribute information or sincere opinion. These posters just talk garbage, garbage, and more garbage. One has to answer their gross defamation, so threads get hijacked and cluttered up. Utterly disgusting people.

Keystone is not a homo, the quality has been lowered because of a flood of trash from VNN.

Fade post intermittently anyway but it seems to have driven Prodigal Son away.

In addition the SP should be deprivatized, the socialist are I grudgingly admit fairly intelligent on the whole but their belief system is somewhat of a secular religion. It must be ridiculed away less they convert others to their vile marxist evil.

Der Sozialist
01-29-2007, 03:13 AM
In addition the SP should be deprivatized,
What effect would this have on the forums quality—just out of curiosity?

Helios Panoptes
01-29-2007, 03:14 AM
What effect would this have on the forums quality—just out of curiosity?

He wants to be able to troll it with one-liners.

Der Sozialist
01-29-2007, 03:15 AM
I miss Donny the Punk—he even makes Sulla look considerate.

Kodos
01-29-2007, 03:21 AM
What effect would this have on the forums quality—just out of curiosity?

Im the usual "white" raider into the SP before it was privatized.

I alternated between mockery and serious attacks on socialism (if you want to weaken someone's faith in a religion you use about 10 times the amount of mockery as serious attacks) about evenly...

So im not sure.

Mentious
01-29-2007, 03:24 AM
Keystone is not a homo...
The prissy hairless "racist" and baseball fan has duped you. Offer proof that he is not.

Fitz
01-29-2007, 03:25 AM
Has the quality of posts on this forum declined in the last 6 months or so?

Since you joined about six months ago yourself, it's interesting that you feel the board has declined during the same period. I've seen people like you at other boards. Always stirring shit with the staff, complaining that something has to be done to save the board. I bet you've volunteered for moderator haven't you?

cyborg
01-29-2007, 03:25 AM
The problem is, for the most part, we are all familiar with each other. Thus, fewer debates take place because we are all acquainted with each others view points.

We need some "new blood" if you will—some anti-racists and/or neo-cons would be interesting since we have so few of these on this forum and since the few that we have tend to avoid debates on these very issues (Mr. Angry does not qualify).

There is life and there is activity in the form of flaming/nonsense or good information but new forms of growth will never occur (that's what being lamented here). The limits are in the design: engagement within an electronic forum. I wouldn't expect more than insight, humor, news data and limited character study from a web forum.

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
01-29-2007, 03:29 AM
I've seen people like you at other boards. Always stirring shit with the staff, complaining that something has to be done to save the board. I bet you've volunteered for moderator haven't you?
Actually the staff here seems to welcome criticism, and doesn't like a kiss ass mentality. And no, I haven't asked to be a moderator.

But people like you are the problem. I'll be frank about it.

that guy
01-29-2007, 03:29 AM
Well I for one notice less of the Socialists posting, and less of the Catholics posting (even though I don't like Catholics).

I don't know. Maybe its the same people posting and the quality just dropped, or maybe I'm just not amazed anymore because the "newness" of the forum wore off.

Then again, when I started out, I was moderately on the side of the people who are against jews, but I switched my position, so that could explain a lot in terms of how my view of the forum would then change. As much as you say I hammer the issue, I think everyone else is obsessed to be honest.
I don't think 'everyone else' is obsessed with Jews, God. The few that do have a skewed view (IMO) on Jews (DWW, John Flynn, Burrhus, etc.) I find entertaining more than anything else. You really need to relax, man. These people are not a threat to mankind; they are posters on an internet forum with a fucked up world view. Who gives a sh*t? Lighten up and enjoy the humor of it.

Burrhus
01-29-2007, 03:30 AM
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-- lowlife "macho" perverts here like "Ugly American" and "Hachiko,"

Hachiko is not a lowlife macho pervert. He is highlife macho pervert. He is the salt in the Phora stew. Not something you would want to take straight but necessary mixed in for good flavor.

I will defend Hachiko's presence here with my li...well...I'd take a few mild bruises for him anyway.

A royal court without a jester never sees its own foibles and is liable to descend into insanity.

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
01-29-2007, 03:31 AM
I don't think 'everyone else' is obsessed with Jews, God. The few that do have a skewed view (IMO) on Jews (DWW, John Flynn, Burrhus, etc.) I find entertaining more than anything else. You really need to relax, man. These people are not a threat to mankind; they are posters on an internet forum with a fucked up world view. Who gives a sh*t? Lighten up and enjoy the humor of it.
So why aren't you telling them to relax? This is essentially my point...

that guy
01-29-2007, 03:34 AM
So why aren't you telling them to relax? This is essentially my point...
Perhaps because I care more about the relaxation of those that are on my side. Let the netzis be uptight. We will stay relaxed.

Helios Panoptes
01-29-2007, 03:36 AM
Kane, why is it that whenever anyone makes a comment critical of jews, you're always there to defend them? I could set my watch to it.

Kodos
01-29-2007, 03:48 AM
The prissy hairless "racist" and baseball fan has duped you. Offer proof that he is not.

You are making the positive assertion on evidence that I haven't seen...

Fitz
01-29-2007, 03:52 AM
Actually the staff here seems to welcome criticism...

I'm sure they look forward to your every private message and offensive post alert :rolleyes:


And no, I haven't asked to be a moderator.

But you want it more than a date with a girl

But people like you are the problem. I'll be frank about it.

It's obvious why somebody like me is attracted to a free speech forum. But it escapes my why an asshole control freak like you feels the need to join. And let me be frank, I think people like YOU are the problem. But it is absolutely not in my nature to try to silence you or to have the staff "do something" about you. You don't threaten me at all :)

Vasily Zaitsev
01-29-2007, 04:40 AM
This thread is either going to degenerate into our, what (?), third one today where Julian Lee and those he dislikes get into a "no u" argument about who's a fag or it's going to become yet another Kane123123 vs the Jew namers.

I vote for processing and deletion.

Thomas777
01-29-2007, 04:43 AM
You guys are closet fags who are ruining this forum by a) naming the Jew or b) not naming the Jew.

Dances with Wolves
01-29-2007, 04:45 AM
mishima yourselves, everyone! :eek:

BTW Thomas, thanks for renewing my interest in that most fascinating character.

Mentious
01-29-2007, 04:57 AM
This thread is either going to degenerate into our, what (?), third one today where Julian Lee and those he dislikes...
Sir, I do not express "dislike" of persons here. You have simply run across my self-defense after getting egregious and baseless flaming from a few lower class persons. I am an affable poster. I even get along with Helios who is constantly saying "That is false" to me and doesn't agree with a thing I say; I've never screamed "Fag!" It's the "flame-firsters" and "gay callers" here who cause threads to degenerate. Follow the histories of any of these threads and you'll see my contributions are entirely defensive. Blame the jackals.
You are making the positive assertion on evidence that I haven't seen...
And this was my point, sir. No poster here should be allowed to accuse others of homosexuality or other gross moral turpitude unless he has positive proof, proof that would hold up in court. It's a huge form of slander and basically not provable or disprovable. Cretins who do it should be banned from the forum. I am absolutely fed up with that garbage, and the Forum should be, too. It makes the Phora a really low class place, worse than a gym locker room full of neurotic bullies.

Nobody likes to have his reputation smeared or savaged. I am here under my own name, so I obviously have to answer when snipes float that sort of crap. The moderators should clamp down on it. I am straight as the day is long, and I am truly tired of those anonymous cretins' games. Unless somebody has an undoctored photo of a Phora member in a homosexual act, or a notarized statement from witnesses attesting to the perversion of another poster, they should not be permitted that kind of super-flaming.

Vasily Zaitsev
01-29-2007, 05:02 AM
Sir, I do not express "dislike" of persons here. You have simply run across my self-defense after getting egregious and baseless flaming from a few lower class persons. I am an affable poster. It's the "flame-firsters" and "gay callers" here who cause threads to degenerate. Follow the histories of any of these threads and you'll see my contributions are entirely defensive. Blame the jackals.

I'm aware of that. However, these are threads on a messageboard and they're not presenting you with physical harm. Back and forth in one conversation is fine. But if it spills over into multiple exchanges across more than one subforum it's time to pull back and make use of the ignore function.

Mentious
01-29-2007, 05:04 AM
I have too much honor, sir. The forum already has rules against "flaming." That is heavy flaming, and should be discouraged here. There are several posters here who have an incorrigible habit with it and they drag this forum into the gutter regularly. Keystone is one, Intrepid is another. And then there's BigVinny/Johnson. "Ugly American" is another errant schoolboy here.

Petr
01-29-2007, 05:07 AM
The prissy hairless "racist" and baseball fan has duped you. Offer proof that he is not.
Now this is just childish malice. You two should lay off your petty beef.


Petr

Mentious
01-29-2007, 05:12 AM
It's like I said, I'll always give out thrice back what they dish out. It's the only way to deal with them. It's the only way they back off. As Swami Muktananda said: "You have to treat rogues like rogues."

Consider that I have never once impugned any poster's manhood or his sexuality here. I have only responded defensively to gross and unprovoked first statements by a handful of libertine malcontents. Keystone, who is referenced above, keeps coming back like a shark in the water, entering into every thread in which I participate with the same gay hissing rot. If the moderators won't offer a defense, and if the decent posters here won't offer a defense, I'm left to fend for myself, Christian soldier.

Hey, I come not to bring peace, but a sword. Remember that thing, Christian soldier? You would think a Christian would come to the defense of morality. But maybe you are just a theologian.

Let me remind the theologian: Truth matters. Morality matters. The stakes are high.

il ragno
01-29-2007, 05:34 AM
Julian, you need to either develop thicker skin or cultivate a line of insult repartee or just utilize the 'Ignore' feature.

For the record, nobody - not you, nor Keystone, Hachiko, Johnson, or Intrepid - is a homo. Let's get that firmly established. None of you are homos. Well, maybe Intrepid, I dunno....he's been using more big words and fancy book-talkin' lately, so who knows.

Seriously, though, the cry of "you're a fag!" does get old; it's not really the sort of witty rejoinder that lends itself to clever repartee. Happily, though, it's been replaced the last few weeks with "you're a pedophile!" which doesn't lead to any sort of hard feelings whatsoever.

Truth matters. Morality matters. The stakes are high.

This is unquestionably true. But not at the cost of a sense of humor, particularly if - as I suspect - it's far too late to cure the cancer eating away at society with the band-aid of Calvinist high seriousness.

Mentious
01-29-2007, 05:38 AM
Il Ragno, you dealt with "Radek" in exactly the same way, and it worked. :beerchug: I'd say your skin is not so thick when you are defamed, and it shouldn't be.

You mean I wasn't doing "insult repartee"? Gee, I'm crestfallen. I'll keep studying your posts for more pointers, Ragin' Rag.
This is unquestionably true. But not at the cost of a sense of humor...
You didn't know that I have almost know sense of humor? Here is the only way I can get humor, Ragno: :rofl: :) :D It's honestly the best I can do. Sorry. :mad:

But let me say, Il Ragno "humor" has a pretty danged sharp edge on it. And that's not criticism, exactly.

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
01-29-2007, 05:39 AM
Kane, why is it that whenever anyone makes a comment critical of jews, you're always there to defend them? I could set my watch to it.
It all comes down to the accuracy of the comments. When I see something inaccurate, I correct it. Many statements about jews are inaccurate, so I point this out.

If people messed up statements about Irish people I'd correct them too. But they don't. They mess up stuff about jews.

That and I happen to be knowledgeable about jews, so I can spot the inaccuracy better than most people.

Sulla the Dictator
01-29-2007, 05:40 AM
Il Ragno, you dealt with "Radek" in exactly the same way,


Worse, he harassed Radek for absolutely no reason.

Back to the issue, Keystone is a good poster, and not at all a homosexual.

Mentious
01-29-2007, 05:44 AM
Keystone is a good poster, and not at all a homosexual.
No, he's mean as hell, and crude. A "good poster" does not belch "faggot! faggot!" at the drop of a hat. Now he's developing the coy, catlike sarcasm that Intrepid employs, which makes him all the more disgusting and suspect as a gay troll, or at least an incipient one. It is my experience that where you see such sly, catlike sarcastic aspersions it makes you wonder. Insincerity and sly, cutting mockery are gay traits. Then there's the baseball heroes...

You see, two can always play that game. When Keystone quits his attempts, whether cute or gross, to call my sexuality/morality into question, I will consider withholding my theories and psychic impressions about what he does with his mother. I have more to tell about that, but I've been holding back since I'm such a nice guy. Till then, it's open season. Again, I have an extreme dislike for that kind of verbal bully.

Part of my motive is to make this a decent place for other decent men to post. At this point, the playground needs some severe policing. I also dislike posters who throw around "nigger! this nigger! that". I think they make Whites look ignoble. It is a trait of the lower classes. But that is a lesser matter.

If a man is a real racialist, and is really aware of the race war, he looks for ways to overcome the White European tendency to fight; the male White tendency toward alienation. To win any kind of serious war, it is absolutely essential for men to develop paths of friendship, ways to show respect, and ways to develop trust. Gay Hissers like Keystone are an absolute corrosive; an absolute monkey wrench, in the development of cohesiveness in male groups. They were that way on the playground as well, I recall. That's why they should be dealt with harshly and cordoned off. Know what else? I have seen quite a few very good men harassed by bullies in this very manner, good straight men who just had some cultivation and sensitive traits, and they were damaged by it. It makes me mad enough to kick those bullies in the balls.

Brute minds can't comprehend that it's part of maleness to have many excellences, including some aesthetic ones. Brute minds, and those who are actually insecure about their sexual state, strike out at other men who are really an asset and very good examples of male excellence. I won't tolerate it. Male excellences are a vast realm and comprise much more than baseball and baseball suits.

Hartmann von Aue
01-29-2007, 06:06 AM
I've noticed a steep decline in quality that occurred immediately after the departure of Glenn Miller and Hermans.

Mentious
01-29-2007, 06:15 AM
Hermans is gone? He was always a good gas. What happened to him?

il ragno
01-29-2007, 06:38 AM
Worse, he harassed Radek for absolutely no reason.

I realize you realtors must complete Mandatory Ethics Training - for much the same reasons that welfare animals must attend housekeeping and parenting courses - but do you ever get into the habit of telling the truth on your own time? Even a little bit?

Mentious
01-29-2007, 06:50 AM
Ah, insult repartee. I probably won't approach that in this lifetime.

Kriger
01-29-2007, 06:59 AM
Well, in the process of being a free speech forum, as the Phora actually is, it is expected that there will be some heated debates between those of conflicting views. These debates reach a point where the disagreement is going to remain, no matter how heated it gets.

If someone is being obtuse, it really is no harm to say so. It is, although, a matter of perspective and opinion. And should be treated as such.

Utilizing insults that are based soley on thinking of the worst name one can call another really is lowlife shite slinging. It has little to do with either reality or the matter at hand.

I really do not think it is too much to ask the posters to refrain from calling another poster an obviously insulting name that has little basis in reality, which I believe is covered in the forum rules. These rules exist because there are those who would rather spend their time with unfounded name-calling than with an open discussion of any topic.

I refer to terms such as pedophile, pervert, homo, etc. The terms jew lover, jew apologist, in short, terms meant to smear one's character as opposed to contributing to the subject of the thread.

The objective of a free speech forum, in my opinion, is to keep the avenues of discussion opened, not closed. Turning any thread into exchanges of personal insults is obviously counter-productive to open discussion.

As an aside, I too miss the perspectives of the Catholic members and others. By the same token, I can understand why they do not want to post their views knowing full well they will be bashed and ridiculed for it. Consistantly.

That is the main problem with VNN. I use it for an example as this is the only other forum I have ever posted at. One cannot make an objective observation there without being ridiculed and bashed off the board.

Fewer personal attacks and more topic discussion should be the goal. Once personal attacks become the main focus, it sets a precedent for personal attacks. A person has a right to defend themselves against personal attacks.
To allow personal attacks without allowing the one being attacked to respond to the attacks is well, is like allowing a person to hit another person and not allowing the hit person to hit back.

Putting the person on ignore does not stop the personal attacks. Nor does it contribute to an open discussion. It essentially closes it.

From what I understand, a flame war area has been tried in the past with the results being that the flame wars spilled over into other threads.

Despite the fact that I have taken as an objective approach to this as possible, I have no clear-cut answers to the problem. I just know that disagreeing with another's perspectives does not amount to anyone being a homo, a pervert, an idiot, a pedophile, a jew-lover, or any of the other innumerable slanders and slurs being expressed.

Björn
01-29-2007, 07:29 AM
I complained about this not long ago. I feel it's various things coming together. First off the number of "Novalty members" has dropped to frightening lows. What happened to Lenny? And who could forget Daisy? QUALITY POSTERS! The basic chemistry of posters hasn't really changed much. Same people, same old same old.

Mentious
01-29-2007, 07:38 AM
Good sense from them old Ozark hills. Off topic: Were you ever into the band "Black Oak Arkansas." Just wondering.

Kriger
01-29-2007, 08:20 AM
Good sense from them old Ozark hills. Off topic: Were you ever into the band "Black Oak Arkansas." Just wondering.

Heh.

Well, while I have friends who were into the long-haired/hippy/redneck/hillbilly scene of the times, I have always been basically conservative in looks, dress, and habits.

Black Oak Arkansas did put out some good Southern Rock, though. Creedence Clearwater Revival was my favorite in this particular genre of music.

Mentious
01-29-2007, 08:26 AM
Yes, CCR had a very distinctive sound and John Fogerty was a real American musical original, no question. But you know what? Black Oak Arkansas had a certain magic just up to their "Keep the Faith" and "Old Uncle Elijah" recording. (After that, they just went downhill and became crass and crude.) In their early time they had a sense of magic about them and it really was Ozarky; it was the "spirit" of the Ozark hills that seemed to be in their music. I remember being very moved by just the inside cover of "Keep The Faith" and this old partriarch up in the sky looking down benignly on the Ozark forest. That spirit was also very present in their one hit, "Old Uncle Lijah." It was all about "mountain people," hills and hallows, the mystery of the old hills. At the time they were a real relief from the edgey, dark music that was developing in the 1970's. They also had a very original, almost queer, guitar fabric that had a real sense of fresh air and a "home grown" vibe about it. They were also overtly masculine at a time when Elton John, David Bowie, and Alice Cooper were waxing gross. Unfortunately, they turned into nothing but carnal dogs and ignorant savages in the end. But it was nice at first.

Didn't mean to hijack the thread. A mod can delete this if desired.

Kriger
01-29-2007, 08:43 AM
Yes, CCR had a very distinctive sound and John Fogerty was a real American musical original, no question. But you know what? Black Oak Arkansas had a certain magic just up to their "Keep the Faith" and "Old Uncle Elijah" recording. (After that, they just went downhill and became crass and crude.) In their early time they had a sense of magic about them and it really was Ozarky; it was the "spirit" of the Ozark hills that seemed to be in their music. I remember being very moved by just the inside cover of "Keep The Faith" and this old partriarch up in the sky looking down benignly on the Ozark forest. That spirit was also very present in their one hit, "Old Uncle Lijah." It was all about "mountain people," hills and hallows, the mystery of the old hills. At the time they were a real relief from the edgey, dark music that was developing in the 1970's. They were also overtly masculine at a time when Elton John, David Bowie, and Alice Cooper were waxing gross. Unfortunately, they turned into nothing but carnal dogs and ignorant savages in the end. But it was nice at first.

Didn't mean to hijack the thread. A mod can delete this if desired.

If nothing else, it is a good example of discussing a disagreement in views of music without insulting each other. I would have to listen to their earlier recordings. At the time I considered them to be representatives of a growing degenerative movement in White culture. Bluegrass is so much more based in the Ozark Mountain culture, just my opinion.

As an interesting aside, Alice Cooper is one of the DJs on a local hard rock station here. He broadcasts from his homebase in Arizona. He's a certified DJ for Q94 in south central Missouri. Not sure what this says about our traditional values.

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
01-29-2007, 09:02 AM
I'm sure they look forward to your every private message and offensive post alert :rolleyes:
BTW I didn't report your post that got edited. I have reported people's posts before, but that happened completely independent of me. Ask the mods. Go ahead.


But you want it more than a date with a girl

I can disprove this. I built my old forum when stormfront used to suck, when Muad Dib was running it, to counter it. I could have kept building it, and I would have been the admin. But instead I have worked to build the phora, and I'm not even a mod or staff. If I was about glory, like your hero David Duke, I would have gone the other route. But I humbly saw potential in the phora and worked for it never expecting to get a mod position in return.


It's obvious why somebody like me is attracted to a free speech forum. But it escapes my why an asshole control freak like you feels the need to join. And let me be frank, I think people like YOU are the problem. But it is absolutely not in my nature to try to silence you or to have the staff "do something" about you. You don't threaten me at all :)
The problem with your type is you people don't know how to stay on topic, are generally inferior, and are an obstacle to higher level debate.

Mentious
01-29-2007, 09:09 AM
The problem with your type is you people don't know how to stay on topic, are generally inferior, and are an obstacle to higher level debate.
Thank God you haven't been tracking my and Bamse's stuff. :)
At the time I considered them to be representatives of a growing degenerative movement in White culture. Bluegrass is so much more based in the Ozark Mountain culture, just my opinion.
That's completely understandable if you were a native Ozarkian; obviously that longhaired band would have seemed degenerate. From the context I was in at the time, living in a capital city, they seemed almost wholesome and back-to-nature by comparison.
As an interesting aside, Alice Cooper is one of the DJs on a local hard rock station here. He broadcasts from his homebase in Arizona. He's a certified DJ for Q94 in south central Missouri. Not sure what this says about our traditional values.
That's bizarre. He's a major rotter. I don't care if he says "I'm a Christian" now. He played a huge role in moral and cultural decline in the 1970's. There is no penance the rotter could possibly do in this life.

Kriger
01-29-2007, 09:33 AM
Thank God you haven't been tracking my and Bamse's stuff. :)

That's completely understandable if you were a native Ozarkian; obviously that longhaired band would have seemed degenerate. From the context I was in at the time, living in a capital city, they seemed almost wholesome and back-to-nature by comparison.

That's bizarre. He's a major rotter. I don't care if he says "I'm a Christian" now. He played a huge role in moral and cultural decline in the 1970's. There is no penance the rotter could possibly do in this life.

Well, to compound this, the whole program consists of references to excessive alcohol consumption, drug culture, casual sex with numerous partners.....his program is one I listen to as a way of keeping in touch with the spread of degenerate behaviour through our youth.

I appreciate your perspective, Julian. Black Oak Arkansas did do some positive good for others who were not fortunate enough to be living in a traditional White community.

Most of our children have been raised with the traditional values. There will always be those who reject them. It is to be noted that those who have kept these values are living positive constructive and relatively happy lives, while those who adopted the opposing values are, over a period of time, living a miserable, violent, destructive life. One finds the majority of these in abusive relationships, rehab, prisons, mental institutions, or dead.

Sadly, their children are a product of their destructive environments. We work extensively with these children in attempts to direct their path to a more positive and constructive way of life.

antibuddha
01-29-2007, 10:30 AM
The limits are in the design: engagement within an electronic forum. I wouldn't expect more than insight, humor, news data and limited character study from a web forum.

I completely agree with this, and think one sets oneself up for disappointment if one expects any more. I often think quite a bit about a post but refrain from replying partly because of the chore of typing as opposed to simply speaking and partly because of the inevitable flaming and cliched, and often one-line, responses that will occur whenever anyone posts about something controversial. However, for the things that you mentioned, I think this place is quite useful.

Kriger
01-29-2007, 11:03 AM
What you see is what you get.

The Phora is basically a forum for intellectual discourse. Despite the fact that others participate in varying degrees does not negate the fact that intellects do post here with information and food for thought.

If one is only looking for the typical internet forum blather, that is all one sees. In truth, the Phora is far more than that.

J Van Der Meyde
01-29-2007, 11:47 AM
This forum went downhill after the legendary diplomat PAXRAHOWA was banned.

Yesterday was a sad in The Phora's history.

VAMPIR
01-29-2007, 12:01 PM
Is it just me, or is this forum being over-flooded by people who are essentially ruining the unique character of this forum and turning it into VNN number 2.

I voted for one.
I voted for one too, but I don't think that quality is gone, it is just that period. Things like this happened before, and after that, forum always became better than ever. Will be the same this time.

antibuddha
01-29-2007, 12:21 PM
The Phora is basically a forum for intellectual discourse. Despite the fact that others participate in varying degrees does not negate the fact that intellects do post here with information and food for thought.

Sure, but my point is simply that one should take an attitude of such posts being as finding a bit of gold in the rough, rather than expecting to walk on streets of it. If someone can show me a case where moralizing and lamenting about a lack of quality has ever really led to an improvement perhaps I shall change my outlook.

Ahknaton
01-29-2007, 12:26 PM
Summer and winter, day and night, bull and bear, boom and bust, Golden Age and Kali Yuga. All things move in cycles, and the Phora is one of them. Don't despair just because we are going through a trough. The peaks will come soon enough. Activity on forums like this always dips over Christmas/New Years. It takes a while for people to re-establish their browsing habits after an absence.

Hachiko
01-29-2007, 01:29 PM
I don't understand what the problem is; I have maintained a consistent quality of posts since joining. :D

However, I can understand folks like Lord Raiden not caring for me. :)

Fitz
01-29-2007, 04:34 PM
BTW I didn't report your post that got edited. I have reported people's posts before, but that happened completely independent of me. Ask the mods. Go ahead.

I don't know what you're talking about. The only posts of mine that have ever been edited have been self-edited. Have a link?


I could have kept building it, and I would have been the admin. But instead I have worked to build the phora, and I'm not even a mod or staff....But I humbly saw potential in the phora and worked for it never expecting to get a mod position in return.

I think I've got your number. Control freak, staff wannabe.

The reason this place works, and I think it works quite well, is because the staff isn't overly active and micro-managing. You should go back to your own forum if this place isn't meeting your exacting standards.


The problem with your type is you people don't know how to stay on topic, are generally inferior, and are an obstacle to higher level debate.

You don't want a debate; you want to silence people. That's the purpose of this thread isn't it? To plant the seed of discontent.

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
01-29-2007, 07:27 PM
I want to debate the real issues, not have trolls debating whether jews are white and stuff like that.

I want posters who know how to stay on topic, who don't try to turn every FREAKING thread into a jew thread.

And yes, I think jew posts should stay in jew threads only. It's getting annoying when you want to discuss say black crime, and some retard runs in and screams "IT'S ALL BECAUSE OF THE JEWS." Yes, I think posts like that should be deleted, because they are off topic and add nothing of value.

Here is the edited post btw http://www.thephora.net/forum/showpost.php?p=293273&postcount=11

OVERWATCH
01-29-2007, 09:21 PM
I want to debate the real issues, not have trolls debating whether jews are white and stuff like that.

I want posters who know how to stay on topic, who don't try to turn every FREAKING thread into a jew thread.

And yes, I think jew posts should stay in jew threads only. It's getting annoying when you want to discuss say black crime, and some retard runs in and screams "IT'S ALL BECAUSE OF THE JEWS." Yes, I think posts like that should be deleted, because they are off topic and add nothing of value.

Here is the edited post btw http://www.thephora.net/forum/showpost.php?p=293273&postcount=11

If a post is far enough off-topic, it gets deleted, or moved.

There is a Jewish angle to alot of topics here, since Jews are an influential group; many times their influence is overstated by folks, the angle is incorrect, or both. Simply deleting a post regarding the relevance of Jews and Jewish power to, and regarding, that topic, shall not be excised, since doing so would defeat our function as a free speech forum.

If you hunger for discussion free of the Jewish angle, then start some interesting threads, make interesting posts, and ignore the ones about Jews. ;)

Nyx
01-29-2007, 10:21 PM
Forum quality is in decline because:

- there are more Aryan fetishists and VNN imbeciles than usual (they should all be banned)

- crude antisemitism is on the rise here

- Daedalus, Uptight Seattlite, wintermute, NeoNietzsche, et al. do not post as much

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
01-29-2007, 10:27 PM
Forum quality is in decline because:

- there are more Aryan fetishists and VNN imbeciles than usual (they should all be banned)

- crude antisemitism is on the rise here

- Daedalus, Uptight Seattlite, wintermute, NeoNietzsche, et al. do not post as much
See Helios, it isn't just me that notices this...and I'm not even saying they should be banned as Feudal Socialist is, in my opinion you guys give these people the benefit of the doubt too much. The admins, of course, have the right to run the forum how they want, and I understand this.

Maybe I'm a fundamentalist when it comes to applying rules, but I simply believe the tendency to troll the forum is greater for those who espouse the ideology I complain about then it is for people who express other ideologies. You don't have to discriminate against them by ideology. Their behavior is bad enough on its own, ideology not considered, to warrant legitimate questioning in my opinion.

Keystone
01-29-2007, 10:38 PM
I won't tolerate it. Male excellences are a vast realm and comprise much more than baseball and baseball suits.
What's wrong with baseball?

Hermetic
01-29-2007, 10:52 PM
Some of the time you have to just call a nigger a nigger. No noble negroing, just niggers, nigging.

On the subject of morality or moronality, see how fast hollow outer imposed ritualism fell. To be replace by another outer imposed hollow moronality very quickly. The solution is in the problem.

Billy Score
01-29-2007, 11:12 PM
I'm seeing the Decline of the Phora myself, it's turned to winter, but it's high point was 2002-2003 i'd say. we can't really do anything about it save hold the line. Revolt against the modern Phora :D

Dr. Gutberlet
01-29-2007, 11:13 PM
I blame the jews. They are always behind so-called "great falls".

Fitz
01-29-2007, 11:14 PM
Forum quality is in decline because:

- there are more Aryan fetishists and VNN imbeciles than usual (they should all be banned)

- crude antisemitism is on the rise here



You are the biggest troll at The Phora.

a one-time commited marxist, hegelian dialectician, and (very) young internet half-personality, ixabert has become a bit obsessed with eugenics, evolutionary psychology, racial superiority, and "kinsman" socialism based primarily on ethnicity. i suppose he no longer maintains his comprehensive site on north korea..

he even changed his name to ixa.

i remember enjoying the guy very much, back when i used to lurk over at politicsforum.org.. hmph, things can never be the same again.

anybody over here knew him? quite the interesting metamorphosis.


This is Ixabert/Huzington. He is a known troll and on What Is To Be Done? he posted an illegal and immoral post on how to molest/rape underaged children (in the name of "free love"). His posts constantly espouse Zionist and Fascist ideals, and this can be seen on Che-Lives, WITBD, and ISF.

After consulting with a person or two who has dealt with Ixabert before, I have decided to ban Ixabert before he gives any trouble. I am sorry but I cannot trust Ixabert after what he pulled on WITBD.

Dr. Gutberlet
01-29-2007, 11:15 PM
Good sense from them old Ozark hills. Off topic: Were you ever into the band "Black Oak Arkansas." Just wondering.

Shawn Lane (RIP) played with them when he was 14. Possible the greatest electric guitar player of all time IMO.

Fitz
01-29-2007, 11:27 PM
Here is the edited post btw http://www.thephora.net/forum/showpost.php?p=293273&postcount=11

I edited that post, you pathetic neurotic worm.

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
01-29-2007, 11:29 PM
You asked for a link and I gave it to.

Get over yourself.

You said you had a post that you edited. How was I supposed to know it was that one?

If you don't want a link, don't ask for it.

Nyx
01-29-2007, 11:37 PM
a one-time commited marxist, ...That is true. I used to be a Marxist.

... and (very) young internet half-personality, ...I was very young when I started posting on internet message boards, if that's what he means.

ixabert has become a bit obsessed with eugenics, evolutionary psychology, racial superiority, and "kinsman" socialism based primarily on ethnicity.I have always been interested in eugenics, race, and evolutionary psychology, even when I was a committed Marxist.

i suppose he no longer maintains his comprehensive site on north korea.. I never had a website on North Korea.

anybody over here knew him? quite the interesting metamorphosis. Hardly a metamorphosis. Even when I identified myself as a Marxist, I was more of a national bolshevik than anything else. All I have done is dropped the label; I still have many of the same beliefs I had before.

He is a known troll and on What Is To Be Done?I am not a troll.

he posted an illegal and immoral post on how to molest/rape underaged children (in the name of "free love").That is a lie. There was a topic dealing with the psychological effects of intergenerational sex (teenager/adult relations) and I posted extracts from case studies on the subject, showing that it is not as harmful as commonly supposed. The book I quoted from was a psychology textbook - one which could be purchsed in any library. It wasn't anything illegal. And yes, I stand by my opinion. There is no evidence that teenager/adult sex is intrinstically harmful. But I have never been an advocate of what is called 'free love'.

His posts constantly espouse Zionist and Fascist ideals, and this can be seen on Che-Lives, WITBD, and ISF.Zionist, yes; fascist, no.

Lysius
01-30-2007, 12:46 AM
There is life and there is activity in the form of flaming/nonsense or good information but new forms of growth will never occur (that's what being lamented here). The limits are in the design: engagement within an electronic forum. I wouldn't expect more than insight, humor, news data and limited character study from a web forum.What "forms of growth" do you believe are possible in a brick and mortar forum but inherently impossible in an electronic forum?I completely agree with this, and think one sets oneself up for disappointment if one expects any more. I often think quite a bit about a post but refrain from replying partly because of the chore of typing as opposed to simply speaking and partly because of the inevitable flaming and cliched, and often one-line, responses that will occur whenever anyone posts about something controversial. However, for the things that you mentioned, I think this place is quite useful.It's not true that these things can be accurately blamed on the technology itself. Flaming and one-liners are not inevitable on an electronic forum if the management prohibits these things and enforces this effectively. I post on some forums where this is the case. As for typing, many people type faster than they speak, and do so with ease. So again, this isn't an inherent limitation of the technology except for people who are unable to harness it to the fullest.

Mentious
01-30-2007, 01:19 AM
The Phora should not allow "avatars" that feature pornographic violence.

Micaelis
01-30-2007, 01:20 AM
The Phora, after the hacks and exodus of the grand majority of interesting posters, has struggled to get back to its "classical" point of diversity. The fact that it attracts racialists/WNists in herds detracts a lot of knowledge-seekers from joining, or any dedicated opposition in notable numbers that are willing to stick around here. Their loss, however unfortunate.

The fact is that most people on the Phora hold conservative and/or traditional beliefs. That is the Image of the Phora. And in an age where "open-mindedness" and "tolerance" are hallmarks, a site like this becomes society's ugly duckling.

Keystone
01-30-2007, 01:28 AM
The Phora, after the hacks and exodus of the grand majority of interesting posters, has struggled to get back to its "classical" point of diversity. The fact that it attracts racialists/WNists in herds detracts a lot of knowledge-seekers from joining, or any dedicated opposition in notable numbers that are willing to stick around here.
This place has always been chock full of racists. Take them away, and you have......I don't know.

There are Catholic forums, as you know. Here's a big one:

http://www.catholic-forum.com/forums/index.php

Mike
01-30-2007, 02:30 AM
This place is not even near being a VNN forum 2. You are just frustrated because you can't out-argue the Jew-critics. Too bad, get over it.

If you were really concerned with forum posting quality, you'd lead by example, and not create whiny threads like this one. Perhaps you'll deign to spend a moment to review your own posts, which often use names such as "retard". A recent gem of yours featured a a large graphic of the middle finger hand gesture. Is that your idea of quality posting?

Is it just me, or is this forum being over-flooded by people who are essentially ruining the unique character of this forum and turning it into VNN number 2.

I voted for one.

Nyx
01-30-2007, 02:32 AM
The forum quality is in decline owing to the presence of anti-Semites.

Petr
01-30-2007, 02:40 AM
The forum quality is in decline owing to the presence of anti-Semites.
Is Ixabert trying to imitate Fade's crusade-of-the-month style? :rolleyes:


Petr

Starr
01-30-2007, 03:00 AM
Is Ixabert trying to imitate Fade's crusade-of-the-month style? :rolleyes:


Petr


He gave his definition of anti-semite in the shoutbox, earlier, as "anyone who is opposed to world Jewry.":p

As to the main question, this has come up a couple of different times that I have seen in the last year or so. I would just say to those who think the forum is declining to do what you can to help reverse this trend as you see it.

delete
01-30-2007, 03:04 AM
Is Ixabert trying to imitate Fade's crusade-of-the-month style? :rolleyes:
Petr

It could just be, that he is just testing if old fashion distaste for the jew, is an entertaining position to hold, before he adopts it himself?

Some people have said he had been a marxist in his younger years, and now he says he is interested in evolutionary psychology and stuff, so I guess he will make his own form of anti-semitism in time, because he is moving in the right direction.

Micaelis
01-30-2007, 03:23 AM
This place has always been chock full of racists. Take them away, and you have......I don't know.

If the only motivation of people here is to name the Jew and hate "muds," membership is going to continue to suffer, and the quality of the posts will continue to decline.

Fitz
01-30-2007, 03:30 AM
There was a topic dealing with the psychological effects of intergenerational sex (teenager/adult relations) and I posted extracts from case studies on the subject, showing that it is not as harmful as commonly supposed. The book I quoted from was a psychology textbook - one which could be purchsed in any library. It wasn't anything illegal. And yes, I stand by my opinion. There is no evidence that teenager/adult sex is intrinstically harmful.

You might have more in common with Kevin Strom than we realized from your posts of a few weeks ago. Back then you held this type of behavior to be a form of degeneracy, a form of degeneracy that is overly represented among anti-semites.

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
01-30-2007, 04:06 AM
This place is not even near being a VNN forum 2. You are just frustrated because you can't out-argue the Jew-critics. Too bad, get over it.

If you were really concerned with forum posting quality, you'd lead by example, and not create whiny threads like this one. Perhaps you'll deign to spend a moment to review your own posts, which often use names such as "retard". A recent gem of yours featured a a large graphic of the middle finger hand gesture. Is that your idea of quality posting?
hahahahahahaha that's funny, the real truth is I'm sick of running circles around people verbally who are too slow to keep up...or more accurately, who purposely blind themselves to the truth.

Hermetic
01-30-2007, 04:20 AM
Your right they should also hate the catholic pope molesto xxx and his faggot/pedophile church. This will up the quality of the forum.

If the only motivation of people here is to name the Jew and hate "muds," membership is going to continue to suffer, and the quality of the posts will continue to decline.

Micaelis
01-30-2007, 04:38 AM
Your right they should also hate the catholic pope molesto xxx and his faggot/pedophile church. This will up the quality of the forum.

At it's height, the Phora's focus was purely on information and the search for truth. I think that is how it should be.

Hermetic
01-30-2007, 04:41 AM
There you have your answer as to why so much of the focus is on the race and jewish issues.

At it's height, the Phora's focus was purely on information and the search for truth. I think that is how it should be.

Starr
01-30-2007, 04:47 AM
At it's height, the Phora's focus was purely on information and the search for truth. I think that is how it should be.


when you say "truth" are you refering to some kind of religious "truth?" Otherwise I don't see how that is different now. There is lots of truth to be discussed in racial matters considering the impact certain ideas are having on our societies and the path this is going to lead us down.

Micaelis
01-30-2007, 04:52 AM
There you have your answer as to why so much of the focus is on the race and jewish issues.

No, those are the pet-subjects of our member base. Truth is all-encompassing.

when you say "truth" are you refering to some kind of religious "truth?" Otherwise I don't see how that is different now. There is lots of truth to be discussed in racial matters considering the impact certain ideas are having on our societies and the path this is going to lead us down.

Truth is dependent upon nothing but itself.

Hermetic
01-30-2007, 05:49 AM
Those are issues that are some of the greatest of the times. Truth is truth, truth in all things, such as the truth of race and reality, and the truth of what the jewbergs are up to. The all-encompassing reality of the universe, race is real and jews hate gentiles.

No, those are the pet-subjects of our member base. Truth is all-encompassing.

Micaelis
01-30-2007, 05:54 AM
Those are issues that are some of the greatest of the times. Truth is truth, truth in all things, such as the truth of race and reality, and the truth of what the jewbergs are up to. The all-encompassing reality of the universe, race is real and jews hate gentiles.

Race is real and jews hate gentiles. Fascinating. And you wonder why people think the Phora is de-generating information.

Sulla the Dictator
01-30-2007, 07:37 AM
At it's height, the Phora's focus was purely on information and the search for truth. I think that is how it should be.

I don't remember those days. Though to be honest, the VNN boat people have diluted the discourse a bit. Of course, most of them will be scraped off the hull with each humiliating personal breakdown. They seem to have them in rotation.

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
01-30-2007, 08:25 AM
So for the ones who say its just me b*tching. Guess what. It's not.

18 to 13.

Micaelis
01-30-2007, 09:28 AM
I don't remember those days. Though to be honest, the VNN boat people have diluted the discourse a bit. Of course, most of them will be scraped off the hull with each humiliating personal breakdown. They seem to have them in rotation.

Information in itself is never an agenda, though, is it? It is always attached to the host's baggage.

Diversity of fact and opinion helps to build a knowledge base, anyway, and allows the forum to flourish in many different directions, instead of being stuck in tired subjects.

That isn't to say that racists have always been a vocal majority. The good shephard was Fade, afterall.

Ahknaton
01-30-2007, 12:43 PM
The forum quality is in decline owing to the presence of anti-Semites.
You need to get yourself a Jewish girlfriend.

MrAngry
01-30-2007, 02:31 PM
I consider the quality to be very low because of:

-- the homosexual trolls who offer nothing but perverse crudities; coy sarcasm, gross character assassination, and baseball scores.

-- lowlife "macho" perverts here like "Ugly American" and "Hachiko," and

-- vile "racist" homosexuals like Keystone.

I try to be positive in my posts and contribute information or sincere opinion. These posters just talk garbage, garbage, and more garbage. One has to answer their gross defamation, so threads get hijacked and cluttered up. Utterly disgusting people.


One mans garbage is another mans decent post,

MrAngry
01-30-2007, 02:32 PM
At it's height, the Phora's focus was purely on information and the search for truth. I think that is how it should be.


Truth is always a matter of opinion and disagreement. In the case of the Phora it becomes a case of not letting the truth get in the way of an ideology.

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
01-30-2007, 04:45 PM
Truth is always a matter of opinion and disagreement. In the case of the Phora it becomes a case of not letting the truth get in the way of an ideology.
I disagree. From what I see, at least when it comes to certain people, the phora is not about truth, but about free speech but this is only on a few issues. You can say whatever you like, even if its false here...except for this thread http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=16349

If threads like this are locked, then you are only for free speech on the jew issue and on nothing else. I stand by this statement until its re-opened. Don't tell me about free speech. I know its bullsh*t.

And don't tell me to stop complaining. If you do, again, you do not stand for free speech. If you tell me to stop complaining, then you are a hypocrite. You aren't telling people to stop complaining about jews, so quit telling me to stop complaining, Helios. I don't listen to you.

Fitz
01-30-2007, 05:11 PM
And don't tell me to stop complaining. If you do, again, you do not stand for free speech. If you tell me to stop complaining, then you are a hypocrite. You aren't telling people to stop complaining about jews, so quit telling me to stop complaining,


Would you please stop complaining....and take your goddamn medicine.

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
01-30-2007, 05:13 PM
You are copying my punchlines, Fitz.

I wonder how long you have lurked this forum before you started posting, as I used to tell jew freaks to take their ritalin. A copy can never be an original, it will always be fake.

On a more serious note, I really mean what I posted and don't be distracted by people who are telling jokes.

As demonstrated above, don't lock threads to defend irish people and then tell me you stand for free speech when it comes to jews. Your action and inaction speak louder than your words.

Be consistent. If you want free speech, fine. But allow it everywhere, not just for certain ideologies. Again, action would be nice, not just words.

Hermetic
01-30-2007, 05:44 PM
Yes it is fascinating and open honest talk on that will get you fired from your job and quite possible put into jail in many places these days. The Phora is fine, but Nations are de-generating.

Race is real and jews hate gentiles. Fascinating. And you wonder why people think the Phora is de-generating information.

Slavic Enforcer
01-30-2007, 05:53 PM
There were newer fewer Holocaust threads on The Phora.
And that's good IMO.

Mike
01-30-2007, 06:12 PM
I wonder how long you have lurked this forum before you started posting, as I used to tell jew freaks to take their ritalin.You told "jew freaks" to "take their ritalin". Oh, I bet that shut them up! I ask again, is this what you consider quality posting?

delete
01-30-2007, 06:33 PM
You are copying my punchlines, Fitz.

I wonder how long you have lurked this forum before you started posting, as I used to tell jew freaks to take their ritalin. A copy can never be an original, it will always be fake.


So you were the first to say this?

When it comes to insults over the net on medication, I think the Unix guys said them first, nearly evry variety.

When I say that I think you are a jew, am I also just copying tactics from your jew-hating period?

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
01-30-2007, 07:06 PM
I didn't just tell them to take their Ritalin, I made this post and got repped for it multiple times too.

http://www.thephora.net/forum/showpost.php?p=222731&postcount=8

When I say that I think you are a jew, am I also just copying tactics from your jew-hating period?
No, you're just being a conspiracy theorist because you have no evidence of that. You would want me to be jewish, because then you'd be able to blame the jews again by attacking me. Too bad I'm not.

Fitz
01-30-2007, 08:48 PM
I didn't just tell them to take their Ritalin, I made this post and got repped for it multiple times too.

http://www.thephora.net/forum/showpost.php?p=222731&postcount=8



Paranoid with delusions of grandeur. I would expect little else from a person who calls himself “God”. And I wasn’t kidding about the medication, your mental illness is starting to drip from your every post. If anything good can come out of this thread, it should be that you are now guaranteed to be out of the running for any position of authority at The Phora.

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
01-30-2007, 08:49 PM
I was never in the running, so nothing good for you, and even if I was offered to be a moderator, I would quite possibly decline it.

I've been a mod before on other forums and I didn't like my previous mod panel, I just have a bad taste in my mouth and I'm more effective being a regular poster.

I would say that I like 70% of the moderators here, I just think they could be more strict in applying the rules evenly.

sugartits
01-30-2007, 09:18 PM
This forum is rotting with masculine aloofness.

Omniel
01-30-2007, 09:21 PM
This forum is rotting with masculine aloofness.
Really deep.

sugartits
01-30-2007, 09:31 PM
Really deep.

Sarcasm?

I see what I meant now.

Omniel
01-30-2007, 09:35 PM
Sarcasm?

I see what I meant now.
Most people see what they mean at the time, but good for you.

sugartits
01-30-2007, 09:47 PM
Most people see what they mean at the time, but good for you.

Yet more aloofness. How can you see meaning?

I saw your post and it confirmed what I had meant, in my case.

Mike
01-30-2007, 09:53 PM
Rep eh? Golly gee, congratulations on that. But try to pay attention. The topic at hand is posting quality, and your supposed fondness of it. Since as thread starter you are evidently the resident expert on posting quality, I am respectfully asking you, does the repeated use of "brain transplant", "ritalin", "retard", "freak", etc. represent your personal idea of good posting quality?

I didn't just tell them to take their Ritalin, I made this post and got repped for it multiple times too.

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
01-30-2007, 09:55 PM
This is one laid bad thread that I created.

I don't troll every thread I touch.

Omniel
01-30-2007, 09:56 PM
Yet more aloofness. How can you see meaning?

I saw your post and it confirmed what I had meant, in my case.
It's clearly difficult for you to understand the idea of quality rational discussion and debate, but let me give you a tip: It has nothing to do with 'rotting' due to aloofness or, for that matter, the opposite. Switch your brain on and stop being such a sentimental twit.

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
01-30-2007, 10:00 PM
Helios wanted to know why I complain about jew posters and I thought about it more. The thing is I happen to be an expert on jews, I've studied it a lot, but people who know nothing are essentially acting like they know more than me, and its just frusterating, its like when you are good at something and someone who isn't tries to say they are better than you.

Imagine if you were a doctor and some quack runs in and told you how to do medicine. That is how I feel when people who know nothing about jews attempt to correct me.

Keystone
01-30-2007, 10:01 PM
pope molesto xxx
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

....................

Fitz
01-30-2007, 10:45 PM
The thing is I happen to be an expert on jews, I've studied it a lot, but people who know nothing are essentially acting like they know more than me, and its just frusterating, its like when you are good at something and someone who isn't tries to say they are better than you.

Imagine if you were a doctor and some quack runs in and told you how to do medicine. That is how I feel when people who know nothing about jews attempt to correct me.

Drip...drip....drip...drip

Der Sozialist
01-30-2007, 11:35 PM
The thing is I happen to be an expert on jews, I've studied it a lot, but people who know nothing are essentially acting like they know more than me,
I am afraid that after you soiled yourself in the last thread—where you basically stated that geneticists interchangeably refer to European Russians as Central Asians—all your "expertise" is cast into great doubt.

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
01-30-2007, 11:54 PM
Most of Russia is not in Europe. Anyone who knows anything about Russia knows this.

I'm through arguing this. You try hard, I'll commend you, but you really have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to anthropology, genetics, and geography.

I'm done, please don't bring this up again.

OVERWATCH
01-30-2007, 11:58 PM
Most of Russia is not in Europe. Anyone who knows anything about Russia knows this.


Most Russians do not live in the asiatic region of Russia ;)

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
01-31-2007, 12:00 AM
The ones who don't are still Russian though...even asiatic Russians still are caucasian, they aren't like the Chinese, for example. If you think all Asian populations are non-white, you are deceiving yourself, as this is NOT true.
That's my final post on this.

Petr
01-31-2007, 12:04 AM
"Uptight Seattlite", an emotionally unstable libertine with intellectual pretensions, is bringing quality of posts down with his blowhard bullshit.


Petr

OVERWATCH
01-31-2007, 12:05 AM
The ones who don't are still Russian though...

Still, Russians, as in 'ethnic Russians', are Europeans, and genetically fall within the IE(indo-European) group. Most of them live in Europe; and their genetic signature is IE.

When we use 'Russian' in the political sense, this encompasses many ethnic non-Russians, who are indeed central Asians, who are genetically a mix between IE and EA(east Asian).

OVERWATCH
01-31-2007, 12:06 AM
If you think all Asian populations are non-white, you are deceiving yourself, as this is NOT true.

'White' is a relative and subjective term.

even asiatic Russians still are caucasian,

Of course, if we are speaking of ethnic Russians, for the most part. Outside that group, definitions get fuzzy.

That's my final post on this.

Why?

Der Sozialist
01-31-2007, 12:11 AM
even asiatic Russians still are caucasian.

Wrong again (assuming non-Slavic Russians)--Did you know, kane, that Native Americans immigrated from central Asia across Siberia?

Are they White, kane. LOL.

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
01-31-2007, 12:15 AM
No, since you asked I'll post again, no, but they are mainly mongoloid, as are the chinese (but not exactly the same). They also have the same beliefs in dragons and stuff as the chinese.

Yes, they came from Siberia, but only a clown would say that ashkenazi jews and native americans are the same. You'd really have to be a clown to say that.

Der Sozialist
01-31-2007, 12:17 AM
No, since you asked, no, but they are mainly mongoloid, as are the chinese (but not exactly the same). They also have the same beliefs in dragons and stuff as the chinese.

Yes, they came from Siberia, but only a clown would say that ashkenazi jews and native americans are the same. You'd really have to be a clown to say that.
Kane, you lost. Your own source stated Central Asia instead of Eastern Europe and you claimed Ashkenazi Jews are 100% Eastern European in some places. You lost—stop digging.

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
01-31-2007, 12:17 AM
No that's not what I said. I said LEVITES can be. That isn't every ashkenazi jew. You need to read these things more carefully, no offense. Ashkenazi Cohens are closer to the sephardic jews based on dna. Anyone who says ashkenazi jews resemble native Americans because both at one point were in eastern europe and/or central asia is really, really, truly, out of touch with reality.

Please, can we get back on topic, I didn't make this topic to discuss jews, the chinese, indians, etc.

Ambrosio Spinola
01-31-2007, 10:03 AM
Always the same BS about the good ol´days...I really begin to doubt these people were actually here to spout such non sense.
If anything the the Phora has never been as active and highbrow as now. Sure there was the odd month in the middle of one of the many incarnations were quality posting would excell...and? Same thing right now too. Some weeks might be slow and bad and others are great.
Influx of crappy posters is hardly new either..it comes and goes.

That anyone can actually say with a straight face that we are worse now than in, say 2003, is a ridiculous joke.

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
02-01-2007, 05:10 AM
I think I am right, the forum is on the decline, but the last few days were slightly improved.

However, I think I should stop letting it get to me. I should focus on what I'm doing, try to make the forum better, and let others take care of themselves. That's what I realized. I don't like to see people degrade forum quality but as long as I don't join in with them, I have nothing to be upset about.

One thing that annoys me is the constant question, "why are you complaining," but nobody is questioning the motives of other posters. So I return the question, why do you complain about my complaining, lol? I am not complaining, or trying to bash the forum, but trying to insure it isn't controlled by people with a conspiracy to harass, people who actually join the board from another board (usually VNN) with the intention of taking it over. I am completely a solo effort, I do this on my own, so the same charge cannot be made against me.

Hermetic
02-01-2007, 08:25 PM
The time I can state the phora was not that great was when it was the Phora in exile.

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
02-15-2007, 08:06 PM
The laid back moderating policies of this forum are both its curse and its blessing.

With intelligent posters, its a blessing. However, sometimes less intelligent posters will take advantage of what we have going on here and sign up and end up driving everything off topic. In my opinion, its better to have no discussion at all then to have discussion that is off topic. People who lack the conversational skills to stick to topic and instead flame and post by post drift the thread further and further of topic, in my opinion, should be controlled. If they want to talk about something else, they can make a new thread.

Fitz
02-15-2007, 09:32 PM
Certainly not on Fitz's thread...because the girl on Fitz's thread looks like butt sauce.

http://thephora.net/forum/showpost.php?p=304540&postcount=103


Is this an example of your intelligent and always on topic posting style? Should I have run to the moderators like a pussy, the way that you do?

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
02-15-2007, 09:41 PM
The topic is "when is the last time you saw a real hot girl." It's perfectly relevant to say that. It may be mean. But its still on topic.

You, on the other hand, post off topic.

Fitz
02-15-2007, 09:53 PM
The topic is "when is the last time you saw a real hot girl." It's perfectly relevant to say that. It may be mean. But its still on topic.

You, on the other hand, post off topic.

No, to stay on topic in that thread you would have given an example of a hot girl....not brought up an entirely different thread as an example of a girl who isn't hot. Glenn Miller is Rhodes Scholar material compared to you.

Micaelis
02-15-2007, 09:55 PM
The topic is "when is the last time you saw a real hot girl." It's perfectly relevant to say that. It may be mean. But its still on topic.

You, on the other hand, post off topic.

A troll accusing others of trolling. Good one, kane. :deadhorse:

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
02-15-2007, 10:17 PM
I referenced another thread within the realm of topic. My point still stands and it always did stand.

Fitz
02-15-2007, 10:35 PM
The woman you say looks like "butt sauce". You are fucking dickless and pathetic

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i142/Der_Zorn_Gottes/francoise36.jpg

Keystone
02-15-2007, 10:41 PM
The woman you say looks like "butt sauce". You are fucking dickless and pathetic

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i142/Der_Zorn_Gottes/francoise36.jpg
She's OK looking, man. Nothing to get in a lather about.

Fitz
02-15-2007, 10:44 PM
She's OK looking, man. Nothing to get in a lather about.

Thanks for your opinion. Here's mine for you.....cut back on soy and increase zinc.

Keystone
02-15-2007, 10:51 PM
Thanks for your opinion.
Welcome.

There's at least a dozen girls at her age in these pics who are better looking than her....just where I work..... Of course they can't sing like her, but hey, can't have everything.

Calm down, man.

Fitz
02-15-2007, 10:58 PM
Keystone, I suggest you calm down.

Whether the girl in the picture constitutes "butt paste" was the issue, not whether or not she impressed your seemingly jaded eye.

If you have any other suggestions, why not send me a pm? I don't have a problem with you that I'm aware of.

Keystone
02-15-2007, 11:21 PM
Keystone, I suggest you calm down.

Whether the girl in the picture constitutes "butt paste" was the issue, not whether or not she impressed your seemingly jaded eye.
My issue with this is people getting incensed over this girl enough to say "butt paste" "dickless" and "pathetic".

She's not that important.
If you have any other suggestions, why not send me a pm? I don't have a problem with you that I'm aware of.
Say whatever you want right here.

Fitz
02-15-2007, 11:47 PM
My issue with this is people getting incensed over this girl enough to say "butt paste" "dickless" and "pathetic".

She's not that important.

Say whatever you want right here.

The girl isn't the issue and you should be intelligent enough to realize it. 123 is lobbying to have certain members "controlled" and MY issue with that is his hypocrisy.

If the word "dickless" offends you tough shit. I wasn't too impressed with the way you treated Julian Lee recently, but I mind my own business. You should do the same, we're all adults.

If I am breaking any other rules by calling 123 "dickless and pathetic" in the Lounge area of the Gutter, please someone in authority let me know. Just because I have witnessed a moderator (Sulla) call another member a fag (Il Ragno) in this same area of The Phora doesn't mean that I am necessarily going to be held to the same standard.

Anything else Keystone?

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
02-15-2007, 11:50 PM
God is lobbying to have certain members "controlled" and MY issue with that is his hypocrisy.
Nobody has to lobby to control you. Your posts suck so they get deleted. I pointed out you were off topic and people agreed.

You suck at life. Nobody wants you here.

Fitz
02-16-2007, 12:04 AM
Nobody has to lobby to control you. Your posts suck so they get deleted. I pointed out you were off topic and people agreed.

You suck at life. Nobody wants you here.

The post that was deleted went like this: "You say such stupid things, it's no wonder the Jewish members of the board won't claim you". I think that was an appropriate reply to your comments on the Zundel thread.

As for my place on this board, if rep points mean anything, there must be some who enjoy my posts. I like this place and I think the staff does a good job, but if and when you ever start speaking for the management, you won't have to worry about my hanging around.

WFHermans
02-16-2007, 12:07 AM
Relax. It's just another effort by kahn123123 and his tribesmen to censor the Phora the same way they censor 99% of the internet already.

Censorship, it'z for your own good!

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
02-16-2007, 12:17 AM
I like this place and I think the staff does a good job
But no-one likes YOU!

Mike
02-16-2007, 12:24 AM
It's another clear example of ad homonym[sic] from the resident expert on "posting quality".

You suck at life. Nobody wants you here.

Keystone
02-16-2007, 12:28 AM
It's another example of ad homonym[sic] from the resident expert on "posting quality".
Ignore the squalling kiddos, Mike.