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Felix the Cat
12-07-2005, 01:33 AM
Russia’s Muslims Want Christian Symbols Removed From Coat of Arms (http://www.mosnews.com/news/2005/12/06/muslimsigns.shtml)

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A group of top Muslim clerics have demanded that Orthodox Christian symbols be removed from the Russian coat of arms and have complained about the Russian authorities and power-wielding structures allegedly refusing to abide by the principle of secularity, the Interfax news agency reported.

“This is not only a question of the Russian coat of arms. We can say that icons are all but put up on the walls of state offices,” Nafigulla Ashirov, chairman of the Spiritual Board of Muslims of Asian Russia, told journalists.

He accused units of the Defense and Interior Ministries and the Federal Security Service of appropriating various saints “who are allegedly the patrons of warriors”. “The power-wielding structures, the authorities and the Russian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchy are erecting large crosses at border posts and the approaches to towns. Orthodox chapels are being built in the command bodies of the armed forces,” he lamented.

In his turn, Damir Mukhetdinov, deputy head of the Spiritual Board of the Nizhny Novgorod region’s Muslims, shared the Muslims’ concerns. Their feelings are insulted by the Orthodox presence in the Russian coat of arms.

“We, the Muslims of Nizhny Novgorod region, were wholeheartedly in favour of introducing the unity of the peoples holiday. We could not have imagined, however, that the sound of Orthodox bells and the icon of the Virgin of Kazan would become the symbols of this holiday in Russia,” he said about the day of people’s unity. The mufti is convinced that “all this violates the secular nature of the state and doesn’t contribute to the unity of Russia’s peoples”.

Ali Visam Bardvil, head of the Spiritual Board of Karelia’s Muslims, too, believes that the presence of Christian symbols in the coat of arms is impermissible. He said that Russia “is neither a Muslim nor a Christian country”.

“The cross is not a Muslim symbol. We respect the religious feeling of Christians but do not recognize the crucifixion of Christ,” the Muslim figure clarified. “Therefore,” he went on, “in my opinion Orthodox symbols should be removed from the coat of arms to make it acceptable to all religions.” Bardvil emphasized that Muslims would support all politicians calling for a change to the current symbols in the Russian coat of arms.

Jimbo Gomez
12-07-2005, 07:22 PM
Heh, I don't think that crap will work in Russia.

Anarch
12-07-2005, 09:13 PM
That's good. That's really, really good. I mean, Chechens cause all sorts of shit, shooting and raping school kids, and Muslims yell at Russia over standing by her Christian heritage. Haha... right.

Banat
12-07-2005, 11:02 PM
I'd remind them how under Moslem reign Orthodox churches were even forbidden to ring their bells, and Christians themselves any religious celebration in public, and all that for the sake of not offending those precious religious feelings of their Moslem occupiers.

And they surely found the right address to complain about their "hurt feelings". :rolleyes:

He accused units of the Defense and Interior Ministries and the Federal Security Service of appropriating various saints “who are allegedly the patrons of warriors”. “The power-wielding structures, the authorities and the Russian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchy are erecting large crosses at border posts and the approaches to towns. Orthodox chapels are being built in the command bodies of the armed forces,” he lamented.

Russia finally seems to be trying to return to its true path and I am glad for it.

That "patron of warriors" on Russian coat of arms is St George.

Excorcism
12-07-2005, 11:38 PM
I personally want to know what type of Islam it is that fucking bitches and whines like this. I mean, they whine like as if they expect reperation payments or ask where there welfare check is. I just want to know what specific type is "Islam" actually demands that their followers act like a bunch of lazy, no job bastards.

Jimbo Gomez
12-08-2005, 07:50 AM
I think the type you're referring to is just called 'islam'. ;)

daisy
12-08-2005, 08:13 AM
the cross is not a muslim symbolthey better keep silver crosses rubbed with garlics in case some of them invaders are vampires wanting to suck their blood.

Anarch
12-09-2005, 12:31 AM
@ Lenny the Moron:

Christianity is of no particular value in itself except as a part of our cultural inheritence. I can defend it without believing in it, nutter.