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Rakhmetov
02-09-2007, 11:07 PM
Are Albanians white? I mean, before the Turkish terror Albanians were a Christian people. A large amount of Albanians known as Arbëreshë escaped the Turkish yoke to Sicily and Calabria. Albanians and southern Italians are therefore like brothers. Plus, despite forced conversion to the Islamic cult, about a third of Albanians today are either Orthodox or Catholic.

But then again, I still have an immense loathing of "Kosovars". They are basically fascist, reactionary thugs in line with barbaric Islam and western imperialism. They should be expelled to where they poured in from.

6(sic)6
02-10-2007, 12:43 AM
Last time I looked I was very white...

http://forum.skadi.net/classify_valdi_me-t60301.html?&highlight=albania

http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15729

Slavic Enforcer
02-10-2007, 12:50 AM
Albanians are also just people.

And if you continue this way, Star, it could happen that I begin to like the Kosovar Albos.
Because if such a little nothing like you doesn't like something, it can't be that bad.

Rakhmetov
02-10-2007, 04:05 AM
Albanians are also just people.

No need to point out the obvious. What's your point?

And if you continue this way, Star, it could happen that I begin to like the Kosovar Albos.

I don't give a shit. This is a discussion about the background of the Albanian people. Nowhere were your personal opinions inquired.

Slavic Enforcer
02-10-2007, 04:16 AM
OK, sorry. They are black. :rolleyes:

Bajlozi
02-13-2007, 07:54 AM
THE RACIAL ELEMENTS OF EUROPEAN HISTORY
Chapter VI Part Two
THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE EUROPEAN RACES IN EUROPE
Spain, Portugal, Italy, north Balkans

By Hans F.K. Günther

The regions of the Slovenes, Croats,Montenegrins, and Albanians make up together an area of very strong Dinaric predominance. Other racial strains, however, are also evident in these peoples: Mediterranean blood has penetrated here from the coasts of the Mediterranean Sea, East Baltic blood from Eastern Europe, Nordic blood through various waves of Nordic comers. The northern Albanian Mirdit tribe, on the one hand, and the southern Albanians on the other, would seem to have a fairly strong Nordic strain; the same strain can be seen among the Croats and the Slovenes.12 Through Albanian settlement Dinaric blood has come into Calabria (southern Italy); while these Albanians are said, too, to show a slight Nordic strain.

http://www.white-history.com/earlson/hfk/reoehchap6b.htm

The Nordish Race
Richard McCulloch
Albania = 75% Dinaric, 10% West Mediterranean, 10% Alpine, 5% Noric = 5% periphery Nordish
http://www.racialcompact.com/nordishrace.html

The races of Europe

Albania and the Dinaric Race
(chapter XII, section 13)

dr.Carleton Steven Coon

Ghegs =Northern Albania, Kosovo down to Elbasan.
Almost all of the Ghegs are light-skinned....Seventeen per cent of Ghegs have pure brown eyes, and 7 per cent pure light ones. Half the group has green-brown iris combinations and 20 per cent blue-brown.

Tosks (south albanians)= South Albania, Greece, Italy and Romania.
Most Bostonians, who possibly see fifty to one hundred Toscs (albanians of the south) in a week, are unaware of their presence, while they have definite ideas, formed upon first sight, as to who is an Italian, an Armenian, or a Jew. It is my opinion that the Toscs, in pigmentation as well as in bodily and facial characters, resemble the southern and central French very closely; that they and the French form the two ends of the Alpine racial area in Europe, the center of which is largely taken up by the Dinaric amalgam.
http://www.snpa.nordish.net/chapter-XII13.htm
http://carnby.altervista.org/troe/12-13.htm




Maternal and paternal lineages in Albania and the genetic structure of Indo-European populations

Mitochondrial DNA HV1 sequences and Y chromosome haplotypes (DYS19 STR and YAP) were characterised in an Albanian sample and compared with those of several other Indo-European populations from the European continent. No significant difference was observed between Albanians and most other Europeans, despite the fact that Albanians are clearly different from all other Indo-Europeans linguistically. We observe a general lack of genetic structure among Indo-European populations for both maternal and paternal polymorphisms, as well as low levels of correlation between linguistics and genetics, even though slightly more significant for the Y chromosome than for mtDNA. Altogether, our results show that the linguistic structure of continental Indo-European populations is not reflected in the variability of the mitochondrial and Y chromosome markers. This discrepancy could be due to very recent differentiation of Indo-European populations in Europe and/or substantial amounts of gene flow among these populations.
http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v8/n7/abs/5200443a.html
..............

Cheers!

Jake Featherston
02-13-2007, 08:01 AM
The Albanians are White, yes, but near as I can tell, they seem to have a very degenerate culture, and exist as a sort of community of Muslim Whiggers. Yikes.

Bajlozi
02-13-2007, 08:09 AM
The Albanians are White, yes, but near as I can tell, they seem to have a very degenerate culture, and exist as a sort of community of Muslim Whiggers. Yikes.
hmmm you must be the smart ass American???

Greetings!

Ambrosio Spinola
02-13-2007, 09:55 AM
Its time we start seeing more modern and serious studies about race so that we do not have to fall back again and again upon ancient texts like those of Gunther, Coon or McCulloch.

Captain Marinesko
02-13-2007, 10:42 AM
Unfortunately the reintroduction of predatory capitalism has reduced many Albanians to former uncivilized ways. If you read about the conditions in Albania in the 40s, and then the massive progress that was made under Hoxha, it is really a shame.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c35/jpslovjanski/alb0.jpg

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c35/jpslovjanski/alb1.jpg

Ambrosio Spinola
02-13-2007, 10:46 AM
massive progress that was made under Hoxha

Say again?

Zrinski
02-13-2007, 11:03 AM
LOL! Albanians became the most backward European nation under Hoxha.

Captain Marinesko
02-13-2007, 11:05 AM
LOL! Albanians became the most backward European nation under Hoxha.


Are you kidding? Did you ever take a look at their literacy rates and standards of living in the 40s? It's one thing to speak of the condition of Eastern Europe during the early 1900s, but in Albania these problems were common in the 40s.

VAMPIR
02-13-2007, 11:10 AM
Are you kidding? Did you ever take a look at their literacy rates and standards of living in the 40s? It's one thing to speak of the condition of Eastern Europe during the early 1900s, but in Albania these problems were common in the 40s.
CM, it is obvious that you don't know a shit about them...

Zrinski
02-13-2007, 11:10 AM
Are you kidding? Did you ever take a look at their literacy rates and standards of living in the 40s? It's one thing to speak of the condition of Eastern Europe during the early 1900s, but in Albania these problems were common in the 40s.

Hoxha came to power in 1944., after that Albania started to go downwards and became the most backward and piss poor country in Europe.

Captain Marinesko
02-13-2007, 11:16 AM
Hoxha came to power in 1944., after that Albania started to go downwards and became the most backward and piss poor country in Europe.

In what alternate universe did that happen? Take a look at what Albania was like prior, and what it is like now.

Zrinski
02-13-2007, 11:21 AM
In what alternate universe did that happen? Take a look at what Albania was like prior, and what it is like now.

Prior to what? Prior to Hoxha? I agree.

I am actually asking myself in what alternate universe are you living in. It's a common known fact that Albania owes it's backwardness to idiot Hoxha and his "revolution".

Ambrosio Spinola
02-13-2007, 11:21 AM
Every communist country went to the shitters after take over. Not only Albania but its quite telling that not even fellow bolsheviks nations dealt with that Hoxah individual.

Captain Marinesko
02-13-2007, 11:23 AM
Every communist country went to the shitters after take over. Not only Albania but its quite telling that not even fellow bolsheviks nations dealt with that Hoxah individual.


Oh I forgot, Albania was some kind of paradise in Europe before the war right?

Ambrosio Spinola
02-13-2007, 11:31 AM
I do not think so but tell me which nation in the balkans was. Any half wit would have been able to do better than Hoxah.

Captain Marinesko
02-13-2007, 11:35 AM
I do not think so but tell me which nation in the balkans was. Any half wit would have been able to do better than Hoxah.


Nonsense. Albania was a backward tribal nation where women were basically property.

Zrinski
02-13-2007, 11:40 AM
I do not think so but tell me which nation in the balkans was. Any half wit would have been able to do better than Hoxah.

Yugoslavia was the most advanced "Eastern European" country. With Soviet Union that is of course.

Ambrosio Spinola
02-13-2007, 11:44 AM
When was that exactly?

Zander
02-13-2007, 11:50 AM
Non white.

Zrinski
02-13-2007, 11:52 AM
When was that exactly?

20th century.

Slavic Enforcer
02-13-2007, 01:09 PM
When was that exactly?

Too bad that the Reds didn't beat Franco and his fascists.
I bet Spain would have become a nice Communist country.

Dr. Gutberlet
02-13-2007, 01:25 PM
Albanians may be physically white, but they are cowardly scum who converted to islam; thus sacrificing their whiteness IMO. I have many Greek friends who absolutely revile these vermin with good cause.

Ambrosio Spinola
02-13-2007, 01:39 PM
If that would be a real reason then the same would apply to anything that lived between Istambul and Vienna during the Ottoman rule.

I bet Spain would have become a nice Communist country.

Ok...lol

Slavic Enforcer
02-13-2007, 01:50 PM
Ok...lol

Sure, don't you think?

I would say that no country in the world deserves more to become Communist than the motherland of the holy inquisition.
A lot of souls wait to be avenged.

Zrinski
02-13-2007, 01:52 PM
Albanians may be physically white, but they are cowardly scum who converted to islam; thuis sacrificing their whiteness IMO. I have many Greek friends who absolutely revile these vermin with good cause.

Not all Albanians are Muslim.

Bajlozi
02-13-2007, 02:39 PM
Its time we start seeing more modern and serious studies about race so that we do not have to fall back again and again upon ancient texts like those of Gunther, Coon or McCulloch.

I really dont understand your point with "serious studies", physical anthropology is science of the past, however i posted both "ancient" and recent ones (genetical resarches). Anyway here is another on aswell;'

Y chromosome haplotypes in Albanian population from Kosovo.
Pericic M, Lauc LB, Klaric IM, Janicijevic B, Behluli I, Rudan P.

Institute for Anthropological Research, Amruseva 8, 10000 Zagreb, Croatia. mpericic@luka.inantro.hr

Eight Y chromosome short tandem repeat (STR) polymorphisms (DYS19, DYS385, DYS389I, DYS389II, DYS390, DYS391, DYS392, and DYS393) were analyzed in the sample of 117 unrelated Albanian males living in Kosovo. A general STR allelic frequency pattern in the Albanian population from Kosovo corresponds to other European populations. Fourty six haplotypes were observed in single copy. The most frequent haplotypes were (DYS19-DYS385-DYS389I-DYS389II-DYS390-DYS391-DYS392-DYS393) 14-11/11-13-29-24-11-13-13 (10.26%), 14-14/17-12-28-24-10-11-12 (9.40%), 13-16/18-13-30-24-10-11-13 (9.40%), and 14-17/17-13-31-24-10-11-13 (9.40%).

Bajlozi
02-13-2007, 02:43 PM
Albanians may be physically white, but they are cowardly scum who converted to islam; thus sacrificing their whiteness IMO. I have many Greek friends who absolutely revile these vermin with good cause.
Well a darkskinned Greek bears the evidence of Turkishness in his face while we might, to a degree, adopted, by force, islam. Both Turks and Greeks are hated among us.

Cheers!

Ambrosio Spinola
02-13-2007, 03:39 PM
I would say that no country in the world deserves more to become Communist than the motherland of the holy inquisition.
A lot of souls wait to be avenged.

Heh...I think that for the 2000-3000 souls the Holy Inquisition might be responsible for burning the bolsheviks got their repayment with the over 8000 clerics killed by the red hordes during the crussade of liberation.

Dr. Gutberlet
02-13-2007, 03:51 PM
Well a darkskinned Greek bears the evidence of Turkishness in his face while we might, to a degree, adopted, by force, islam. Both Turks and Greeks are hated among us.

Cheers!


LOL, funny; especially when you consider that none of my Greek friends has dark skin or anything akin to filthy turkish features. albanians are cowardly(historically proven)islamic criminal scum that are lower than the dogshit on my boot.

Dardanian11
02-13-2007, 03:52 PM
Hoxha came to power in 1944., after that Albania started to go downwards and became the most backward and piss poor country in Europe.

yes is true :(

Bajlozi
02-13-2007, 04:02 PM
LOL, funny; especially when you consider that none of my Greek friends has dark skin or anything akin to filthy turkish features. albanians are cowardly(historically proven)islamic criminal scum that are lower than the dogshit on my boot.
I know for a fact that you are a half Greek (you and i have debated in other forums), so let us not go further with "i am swedish and all my greeks friends are blond". Half Greek (Ape) do me a favor stick to your one subjekt.

Cheers!

VAMPIR
02-13-2007, 04:40 PM
People can talk about Albanian culture and society way they want, but the fact is that Albs are white people. No question about that.

Nemo
02-13-2007, 04:55 PM
Its time we start seeing more modern and serious studies about race so that we do not have to fall back again and again upon ancient texts like those of Gunther, Coon or McCulloch.

That's for sure, they were no experts and their results were done by outdated methods and were not accurate, using their own perseption in coming to conclusions and were bias toward SE. they have as much credibility as an Afrocentrist and have about the same IQ.

The sophisticated methods done today are more accurate, besides McCulloch, Grant were just mentally disturbed nordicists that white washed the North and threw mud on the Southern Euro.

That idiot McCullouch made a picture of Nordics like they were all marshmello whites with no chocolate syrup added.

dimitrije
02-13-2007, 05:00 PM
Non white of course, Asiatic origin, wild behavior are absolutely something strange for average European
[QUOTE]ALBANIAN AND CHECHEN:

Albanian is classified as an non-IE(Indo-European) language because no one has been able to classify it into any group, and this is because no one has yet studied all the Caucasian languages. As soon as linguisists begin to study the Caucasians languages they will realize the similarities with Albanian. Albanian might have IE sounding words, but its basic structure and syntax are more similar to Chechen and Udish than to any IE language. Many Albanian words do sound Indo- European, because Albanian has borrowed over 80% of its vocabulary, more than any other European language.

The Chechen language is strikingly similar to Albanian. They both have similar grammar and similar sounds such as SQ, PSHQ, which are not common in any IE languages, but are very common in caucusus languages like Chechenian. I believe that the Chechens and Albanians are cousins, there is just so much evidence to support it.

CHECHENIA=ICHQERIA
ALBANIA=SHQIPTERIA
Chechen=aakharkho,Albanian=katundar,English=peasan t
Chechen=alsamoo,Albanian=me shume,English=more
Chechen=aagan,Albanian=eker,English=wild
Chechen=aara dalan,Albanian=jashte dal,English=get out
Chechen=aaradaqqa,Albanian=terhoqa,English=withdra w
Chechen=aaradovlilla,Albanian=rrugedalje,English=e xit
Chechen=aare,Albanian=rrafsh,English=plain
Chechen=arzha,Albanian=zeze,English=black
Chechen=aaz,Albanian=ze,English=voice
Chechen=baarz,Albanian=varr,English=grave
Chechen=banka,Albanian=burre,English=man
Chechen=baar,Albanian=arre,English=nut
Chechen=bashkhan,Albanian=shkelqyer,English=excell ent
Chechen=bekhka,Albanian=borxh,English=debt,obligat ion
Chechen=bil ma,Albanian=fal me,English=im sorry
Chechen=besan,Albanian=zbehte,English=pale
Chechen=buha,Albanian=buf,English=owl
Chechen=cham,Albanian=shijshem,English=tasty
Chechen=yaalla,waala,Albanian=eja,English=come here
Chechen=chu,Albanian=hyj,English=get in
Chechen=daago,Albanian=djeg,English=burn
Chechen=dahiita,Albanian=dergoj,English=send
Chechen=dehndi,Albanian=gjedhe,English=cattle
Chechen=dain,Albanian=drite,English=light
Chechen=daakhkan,Albanian=gjendem,English=located
Chechen=delqa,Albanian=dreke,English=lunch
Chechen=dowgha,Albanian=djeges,English=hot
Chechen=duq,Albanian=aq,English=so many
Chechen=dyelkha,Albanian=kerkoj,English=to cry
Chechen=eskar,Albanian=ushtri,English=army
Chechen=ghaighanii,Albanian=hidheroj,English=make sad
Chechen=ghaala,Albanian=kala,English=castle
Chechen=gaalat,Albanian=gabim,English=mistake
Chechen=ghishto,Albanian=ngrehine,English=building
Chechen=gharlima,Albanian=ngrirje,English=freezing
Chechen=goola,Albanian=gju,English=knee
Chechen=hakkha,Albanian=terheq,English=draw
Chechen=hoqa,Albanian=kete,English=this
Chechen=hostam,Albanian=gozhde,English=nail
Chechen=khalkhar,Albanian=kercej,English=dance
Chechen=khan,Albanian=kohe,English=time
Chechen=khasbesh,Albanian=kopesht,English=garden
Chechen=keeda,Albanian=qetem,English=cut
Chechen=khena,Albanian=kohe,English=weather
Chechen=khila,Albanian=qene,English=been
Chechen=khilam,Albanian=kam,English=have
Chechen=kho,Albanian=koqeve,English=egg
Chechen=kog,Albanian=kembe,English=leg,foot
Chechen=Iighana,Albanian=Inatosur,English=Angry
Chechen=nana,Albanian=nene,English=mother
Chechen=Ysh,Albanian=Ishin,english=they were
Chechen=shu,Albanian=ju,English=you




Albanians are non-white and come to Europe from Caucasian region!!

Point: If someone has light eyes’n’hair or appear as an Aryan, it doesn’t mean that he is Aryan.

THE FACT is that Albanians originally came from Albania, the province near Caspian Sea; South Dagestan and Azerbeijan. They were there in I b.c.e. under their originally name Shquips (The Albanians). Anyway during that time The REAL Illyrians were the citizens of The West Balkan (Dinaria) and occupied by The Romans. During that time stinky Albanians was in their native s***y hole. Bear in mind that in 6.-9.c.e. we still have Illyrians and their Resistance to Romans. Where are the Albanians? THE MOST SAD is that this myth of Albanian origin were promoted by stupid Yugoslav communists because The State policy of Yugoslavia, made by Josip Broz Tito (aka Josef Walter Weiss) were brotherhood with Albanians, so that the Yugoslavia could get Albania as the 7th republic.

THE FACT is that Albanians came here (Europe) not before 1300. They used to mix with Southern Serbs and the last groups of Illyrian tribes from which they get some of traditional Aryan Values. Stolen tradition and customs, the main characteristic for Asians (remember of India, China, South-East Asia), gave the Albanians “The Aryan thing” (besides Serbian blood). That thing is most visible in “chieftain leadership” and “Besa” (The Oath). These traditions are common for early Serbian tribes just like all Aryan tribes. That is the only honorable in Asiatic Albanian Folk. Do you maybe know why the Asiatic Albanian Folk, just like other Asians are SO MUCH traditionalists? It is because they are unable to further develop the things which they adopt/stole. It is important to draw for you their moral. When they are minority they are silent and they are your pals and brothers. When they are majority, they become bloodthirsty and change the side very easily. You don’t believe??? Ask the Serbians who were forced out from their homes on Kosovo and Metohia. The same moral have gypsies. Albanians are mixed-breed + Aryan tradition.

THE FACT is that 65-75% of Albanians are traditionaly Islamists (muslims) and they adopt it during Otoman Empire. The rest 25% are Christians (Orthodox and Catholics) and Atheists. It is important to say that Albanians under Skenderbeg were against the Turks (Serbs helped Skenderbeg), but after his death, they were together with gypsies in the lines of Turkish Police Force. They were after Hajduks (Serbian Elite Resistance Force) and they torture Aryan Serbs on Kosovo and Metohia & Raska (today reffered as Sandzak, thanks to Communists and Muslims). Also Bulgarians were the victims. They easily change the sides IAW The Best Payers. So we have the cases of Turko-Albanian battles.

THE GODD**N FACT is that The ideals of Great Albania and nowadays Albanic ideology came from “Prizren League” The Meeting of Shiptar Feudals, Aga’s, etc during 1878. From that day Albanians are united as one, and that is the first time of mentioning The Great Albania. Never before Kosovo and Metohia was Albanian. Serbia and Greece were about to conquer Albania, but Jews stopped it and declare Albania as the independent State, 1912.

The Struggle between Aryan Serbs and Asian “thought-to-be-White” Albanians lays in philosophy “victory or death”. This is EAP, I mean easy as pie.





The northern Shiptar tribes ( yes I wrote tribes if you didn't know Albanians - Shiptars are still living in tribes ) of Klimenti , Hoti , Midriti etc have Serbian - Montenegrin origine , in fact their elite was influenced by Serbian Aryans - that is that . Let's seThe Albanian tribe Berishe are related to all Serbs who venerate saint Nicholas, while all Albanians from the Gashi tribe are related to Serbs who venerate Saint John. These tribes were mixed Serbo-albanian before the comming of the Turks. Also, the great Albanian heroe, Skenderbeg was from the serbo-albanian Kastrioti clan and his mother was Serbian!
- Also many Serb nobles ruled Albanian tribes. For example, the Serb noble Tomas Preljubovic ruled southern Albania in Skenderbeg"s own time.
-Also, the Albanian tribe Midriti wanted Karadjordje to rule over them. They participated in the Serbian revolt of 1803 and were in Karadjordje's personal guard. They are realted to all Serbs who venerate Saint Clement. After the Turks took northern Montenegro, a son of the Ivan-beg Crnojevic, the prince of the Serbian kingdom of Zeta, converted to Islam and was given Northern Albania to govern. He settled in the Albanian village of Bushati from which sprang the "Albanian" Bushati clan sprung. In Montenegro, the tribe Drekalovici is to this day mixed Serbo-albanian and the tribe Serbian tribe Piperi are blood relatives of the Albanian tribe, Hoti.


Their elite, their ruling elite was Serbian ,in fact influence from Serbia. It is no more than 5 % of Albos . They ware nobles in the Midle Ages, sufis during the Otoman perio

Dardanian11
02-13-2007, 05:05 PM
Muhahahahahah serb kid :D

where is link? and who is autor? :thanks: (ofcourse from retart serbs member in SF haha lol)

your serbs caucaus-iran-tajakistan people :)

serbs asiatic want to claim on albanians father, lol

dimitrije
02-13-2007, 05:09 PM
Muhahahahahah :D

where is link? and who is autor? :thanks:

your serbs caucaus-iran-tajakistan people :)Oh,Dardanian I presume you are from so called land Dardanina?
Why don't you show us flag of dardaina
http://www.ess.uwe.ac.uk/Kosovo/knife.jpg
typical albanian warrior :rofl:

Dardanian11
02-13-2007, 05:11 PM
ALBANOI (Albanians) = Illyria = European


Quote:
In the 2nd century BC, the History of the World written by Polybius, mentions a city named Arbon in present day central Albania. The people who lived there were called Arbanios and Arbanitai.
In the 1st century AD, Pliny mentions an Illyrian tribe named Olbonenses.
In the 2nd century AD, Ptolemy, the geographer and astronomer from Alexandria, drafted a map of remarkable significance for the history of Illyria. This map shows the city of Albanopolis (located south of Durrës). Ptolemy also mentions the Illyrian tribe named Albanoi, who lived around this city.



SERBOI (serbs) = Caucasus = Asia


Quote:
The Serboi were mentioned by Plinius the Younger in the first century AD (69-75) as living on the Black Sea and the Sea of Azov in his Geographica. In the 2nd century, Herodotus writes in his Persian Wars that Serboi (Serboi, Sirboi - Serboi, Sirboi) live behind the Caucasus, near the hinterland of the Black Sea. In the fourth century the Carpathians are mentioned as Montes Serrorum (Serboi mountains?) by the Roman emperor Licinius.

In the Caucasus, the homeland of the Serboi, they left their traces around the river Volga (Araxes in Greek). In modern Georgian, that river is called "Rashki". This name was used by Balkan Serbs as a name for their first state and is found wherever the name Serb is found in clusters indicating settlements. It is often used to designate hydronyms and likely meant 'river' or 'water' in Old Serboi language.

:bitchfight: :bitchfight: :nopity:

VAMPIR
02-13-2007, 05:12 PM
your serbs caucaus-iran-tajakistan people :)

serbs asiatic want to claim on albanians father, lol
Where are the links??? :D:D:D

Dardanian11
02-13-2007, 05:14 PM
Where are the links??? :D:D:D

yeah where are? :confused: :D

dimitrije
02-13-2007, 05:16 PM
ALBANOI (Albanians) = Illyria = European


Quote:
In the 2nd century BC, the History of the World written by Polybius, mentions a city named Arbon in present day central Albania. The people who lived there were called Arbanios and Arbanitai.
In the 1st century AD, Pliny mentions an Illyrian tribe named Olbonenses.
In the 2nd century AD, Ptolemy, the geographer and astronomer from Alexandria, drafted a map of remarkable significance for the history of Illyria. This map shows the city of Albanopolis (located south of Durrës). Ptolemy also mentions the Illyrian tribe named Albanoi, who lived around this city.



SERBOI (serbs) = Caucasus = Asia


Quote:
The Serboi were mentioned by Plinius the Younger in the first century AD (69-75) as living on the Black Sea and the Sea of Azov in his Geographica. In the 2nd century, Herodotus writes in his Persian Wars that Serboi (Serboi, Sirboi - Serboi, Sirboi) live behind the Caucasus, near the hinterland of the Black Sea. In the fourth century the Carpathians are mentioned as Montes Serrorum (Serboi mountains?) by the Roman emperor Licinius.

In the Caucasus, the homeland of the Serboi, they left their traces around the river Volga (Araxes in Greek). In modern Georgian, that river is called "Rashki". This name was used by Balkan Serbs as a name for their first state and is found wherever the name Serb is found in clusters indicating settlements. It is often used to designate hydronyms and likely meant 'river' or 'water' in Old Serboi language.

:bitchfight: :bitchfight: :nopity:
This kind of discussions are pointless, only blind people cannot see that you are worse scum.
I will still post some pictures so people can understand what i am talking about
This people are white?Yes and I am black jew
http://www.reportages-pictures.com/ALBANIA/R00216%20islam/images/prevs/p109636%20screen.jpg
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/2950/macedoniawp8.jpg
http://www.reportages-pictures.com/ALBANIA/R00216%20islam/images/prevs/p109625%20screen.jpg

Bajlozi
02-13-2007, 05:25 PM
Non white of course, Asiatic origin, wild behavior are absolutely something strange for average European
[QUOTE]ALBANIAN AND CHECHEN:

Albanian is classified as an non-IE(Indo-European) language because no one has been able to classify it into any group, and this is because no one has yet studied all the Caucasian languages. As soon as linguisists begin to study the Caucasians languages they will realize the similarities with Albanian. Albanian might have IE sounding words, but its basic structure and syntax are more similar to Chechen and Udish than to any IE language. Many Albanian words do sound Indo- European, because Albanian has borrowed over 80% of its vocabulary, more than any other European language.

The Chechen language is strikingly similar to Albanian. They both have similar grammar and similar sounds such as SQ, PSHQ, which are not common in any IE languages, but are very common in caucusus languages like Chechenian. I believe that the Chechens and Albanians are cousins, there is just so much evidence to support it.

CHECHENIA=ICHQERIA
ALBANIA=SHQIPTERIA
Chechen=aakharkho,Albanian=katundar,English=peasan t
Chechen=alsamoo,Albanian=me shume,English=more
Chechen=aagan,Albanian=eker,English=wild
Chechen=aara dalan,Albanian=jashte dal,English=get out
Chechen=aaradaqqa,Albanian=terhoqa,English=withdra w
Chechen=aaradovlilla,Albanian=rrugedalje,English=e xit
Chechen=aare,Albanian=rrafsh,English=plain
Chechen=arzha,Albanian=zeze,English=black
Chechen=aaz,Albanian=ze,English=voice
Chechen=baarz,Albanian=varr,English=grave
Chechen=banka,Albanian=burre,English=man
Chechen=baar,Albanian=arre,English=nut
Chechen=bashkhan,Albanian=shkelqyer,English=excell ent
Chechen=bekhka,Albanian=borxh,English=debt,obligat ion
Chechen=bil ma,Albanian=fal me,English=im sorry
Chechen=besan,Albanian=zbehte,English=pale
Chechen=buha,Albanian=buf,English=owl
Chechen=cham,Albanian=shijshem,English=tasty
Chechen=yaalla,waala,Albanian=eja,English=come here
Chechen=chu,Albanian=hyj,English=get in
Chechen=daago,Albanian=djeg,English=burn
Chechen=dahiita,Albanian=dergoj,English=send
Chechen=dehndi,Albanian=gjedhe,English=cattle
Chechen=dain,Albanian=drite,English=light
Chechen=daakhkan,Albanian=gjendem,English=located
Chechen=delqa,Albanian=dreke,English=lunch
Chechen=dowgha,Albanian=djeges,English=hot
Chechen=duq,Albanian=aq,English=so many
Chechen=dyelkha,Albanian=kerkoj,English=to cry
Chechen=eskar,Albanian=ushtri,English=army
Chechen=ghaighanii,Albanian=hidheroj,English=make sad
Chechen=ghaala,Albanian=kala,English=castle
Chechen=gaalat,Albanian=gabim,English=mistake
Chechen=ghishto,Albanian=ngrehine,English=building
Chechen=gharlima,Albanian=ngrirje,English=freezing
Chechen=goola,Albanian=gju,English=knee
Chechen=hakkha,Albanian=terheq,English=draw
Chechen=hoqa,Albanian=kete,English=this
Chechen=hostam,Albanian=gozhde,English=nail
Chechen=khalkhar,Albanian=kercej,English=dance
Chechen=khan,Albanian=kohe,English=time
Chechen=khasbesh,Albanian=kopesht,English=garden
Chechen=keeda,Albanian=qetem,English=cut
Chechen=khena,Albanian=kohe,English=weather
Chechen=khila,Albanian=qene,English=been
Chechen=khilam,Albanian=kam,English=have
Chechen=kho,Albanian=koqeve,English=egg
Chechen=kog,Albanian=kembe,English=leg,foot
Chechen=Iighana,Albanian=Inatosur,English=Angry
Chechen=nana,Albanian=nene,English=mother
Chechen=Ysh,Albanian=Ishin,english=they were
Chechen=shu,Albanian=ju,English=you




Albanians are non-white and come to Europe from Caucasian region!!

Point: If someone has light eyes’n’hair or appear as an Aryan, it doesn’t mean that he is Aryan.

THE FACT is that Albanians originally came from Albania, the province near Caspian Sea; South Dagestan and Azerbeijan. They were there in I b.c.e. under their originally name Shquips (The Albanians). Anyway during that time The REAL Illyrians were the citizens of The West Balkan (Dinaria) and occupied by The Romans. During that time stinky Albanians was in their native s***y hole. Bear in mind that in 6.-9.c.e. we still have Illyrians and their Resistance to Romans. Where are the Albanians? THE MOST SAD is that this myth of Albanian origin were promoted by stupid Yugoslav communists because The State policy of Yugoslavia, made by Josip Broz Tito (aka Josef Walter Weiss) were brotherhood with Albanians, so that the Yugoslavia could get Albania as the 7th republic.

THE FACT is that Albanians came here (Europe) not before 1300. They used to mix with Southern Serbs and the last groups of Illyrian tribes from which they get some of traditional Aryan Values. Stolen tradition and customs, the main characteristic for Asians (remember of India, China, South-East Asia), gave the Albanians “The Aryan thing” (besides Serbian blood). That thing is most visible in “chieftain leadership” and “Besa” (The Oath). These traditions are common for early Serbian tribes just like all Aryan tribes. That is the only honorable in Asiatic Albanian Folk. Do you maybe know why the Asiatic Albanian Folk, just like other Asians are SO MUCH traditionalists? It is because they are unable to further develop the things which they adopt/stole. It is important to draw for you their moral. When they are minority they are silent and they are your pals and brothers. When they are majority, they become bloodthirsty and change the side very easily. You don’t believe??? Ask the Serbians who were forced out from their homes on Kosovo and Metohia. The same moral have gypsies. Albanians are mixed-breed + Aryan tradition.

THE FACT is that 65-75% of Albanians are traditionaly Islamists (muslims) and they adopt it during Otoman Empire. The rest 25% are Christians (Orthodox and Catholics) and Atheists. It is important to say that Albanians under Skenderbeg were against the Turks (Serbs helped Skenderbeg), but after his death, they were together with gypsies in the lines of Turkish Police Force. They were after Hajduks (Serbian Elite Resistance Force) and they torture Aryan Serbs on Kosovo and Metohia & Raska (today reffered as Sandzak, thanks to Communists and Muslims). Also Bulgarians were the victims. They easily change the sides IAW The Best Payers. So we have the cases of Turko-Albanian battles.

THE GODD**N FACT is that The ideals of Great Albania and nowadays Albanic ideology came from “Prizren League” The Meeting of Shiptar Feudals, Aga’s, etc during 1878. From that day Albanians are united as one, and that is the first time of mentioning The Great Albania. Never before Kosovo and Metohia was Albanian. Serbia and Greece were about to conquer Albania, but Jews stopped it and declare Albania as the independent State, 1912.

The Struggle between Aryan Serbs and Asian “thought-to-be-White” Albanians lays in philosophy “victory or death”. This is EAP, I mean easy as pie.





The northern Shiptar tribes ( yes I wrote tribes if you didn't know Albanians - Shiptars are still living in tribes ) of Klimenti , Hoti , Midriti etc have Serbian - Montenegrin origine , in fact their elite was influenced by Serbian Aryans - that is that . Let's seThe Albanian tribe Berishe are related to all Serbs who venerate saint Nicholas, while all Albanians from the Gashi tribe are related to Serbs who venerate Saint John. These tribes were mixed Serbo-albanian before the comming of the Turks. Also, the great Albanian heroe, Skenderbeg was from the serbo-albanian Kastrioti clan and his mother was Serbian!
- Also many Serb nobles ruled Albanian tribes. For example, the Serb noble Tomas Preljubovic ruled southern Albania in Skenderbeg"s own time.
-Also, the Albanian tribe Midriti wanted Karadjordje to rule over them. They participated in the Serbian revolt of 1803 and were in Karadjordje's personal guard. They are realted to all Serbs who venerate Saint Clement. After the Turks took northern Montenegro, a son of the Ivan-beg Crnojevic, the prince of the Serbian kingdom of Zeta, converted to Islam and was given Northern Albania to govern. He settled in the Albanian village of Bushati from which sprang the "Albanian" Bushati clan sprung. In Montenegro, the tribe Drekalovici is to this day mixed Serbo-albanian and the tribe Serbian tribe Piperi are blood relatives of the Albanian tribe, Hoti.


Their elite, their ruling elite was Serbian ,in fact influence from Serbia. It is no more than 5 % of Albos . They ware nobles in the Midle Ages, sufis during the Otoman perio
Most of this crap/nonsence about Caucasian Albania is a result of Serb/Greek propaganda, infact Serbs are related to this Caucasian Albanians its where the serbs originate, have a look at this map;
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4470/800px1729or6.jpg

Cheers Mongrel Serb!

kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman
02-13-2007, 05:34 PM
Albanians are white muslims but because of this they cannot, in general, live inside a christian civilization.

Dardanian11
02-13-2007, 05:36 PM
yeah you can post gypsies (that are more comon with serbs asiatic) :rofl:

compare serbian scum

Ex-Prime minister and now Minister of Serbia

Vuk Draskovic a.k.a sadam hysein :rofl:

http://en.for-ua.com/files/news_images/news_4513.jpg
http://www.nspm.org.yu/Slike/vuk%20draskovic_mmm.jpg

Prime Minsiter of Serbia

Vojsllav Koshtunica (lol proud tajakistan) :viking: :rofl:

http://media.collegepublisher.com/media/paper223/stills/csk3y2h7.jpg
http://images.ispnetbilling.com/news/693449918142114852.jpg

President fo Serbia

Boris tadic (haha proud Iranian) :rofl: :rofl:

http://media.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/images/I10687-2004Jun27
http://www.mail-archive.com/news@antic.org/jpgjqyRcl9wiL.jpg

and compare with Albanians :dance2: :


President of Kosova, Fatmir Sejdiu

http://www.dw-world.de/image/0,,1897845_1,00.jpg
http://www.shkoder.net/images/fjala/2006/Ne_degen_LDK3.jpg
http://www.balkansecurity.com/news/pics/sejdiju.jpg


Prime-Minister of Kosova, Agim Ceku:

http://www.rfi.fr/actufr/images/075/kosovo_ceku20060302.gif
http://www.euinkosovo.org/upload_qa/ceku%2070%20height.jpg
http://www.index.hr/images2/agimCeku_2v.jpg

Dardanian11
02-13-2007, 05:41 PM
serbs are only nation in balkan that have mongrel and negros influence...look their president-politicans, their singers ect...they look original tajaks and iranians :thanks:

Rakhmetov
02-13-2007, 05:45 PM
President of Kosova

No such place called "Kosova" exists. If you mean Kosovo, you spelled it incorrectly.

Bajlozi
02-13-2007, 06:01 PM
No such place called "Kosova" exists. If you mean Kosovo, you spelled it incorrectly.
Its exists and will exist, Kosova it is.

Cheers!

anthropos
03-04-2008, 03:50 PM
Half Greek (Ape) do me a favor stick to your one subjekt.

So,this is your opinion about the greeks,mr bajlozi,we are half apes...Well,what can i say...There are plenty of albanian immigrants in Greece,i dont see many blonds among them...You keep on calling us names,dont you...What can we say about albania,want to read some???
Right now i will only say that in a period of only 15 years,you managed to create one of the five most lethal,most dangerous mafias in the whole world...there are plenty of albanian pimps,murderers,drug dealers,in every european capital...Greeks,lords of the sea...Albanians,lords of mafia...


http://www.americanmafia.com/Feature_Articles_355.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_mafia

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/862942.stm

http://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/alb-mafia-wsj-9-9-85.html

http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Story?id=131011&page=3

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/863620.stm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=469610&in_page_id=1770

http://www.mfa.gov.yu/FDP/nyp27102004_e.html

http://strategicanalysis.wordpress.com/2006/10/28/the-albanian-mafia/

http://www.maltatoday.com.mt/2001/0819/local3.html

http://www.mafia-news.com/independence-kosovo-albanian-criminal-enterprise/

http://www.lifestyleextra.com/ShowStory.asp?story=JH120244B&news_headline=albanian_sex_slave_gang_jailed

Dragonair
03-07-2008, 12:56 PM
Of course they are. There is no such thing as a non-white European for me.