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Felix the Cat
12-08-2005, 01:10 AM
Mel Gibson planning Holocaust miniseries (http://www.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/TV/12/07/tv.gibsonminiseries.ap/index.html)
LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Mel Gibson is stirring passions again with his latest project -- a nonfiction TV movie set against the backdrop of the Holocaust.
Gibson's Con Artist Productions is developing "Flory" for ABC, based on the true story of a Dutch Jew named Flory Van Beek and her non-Jewish boyfriend who sheltered her from the Nazis, The New York Times and Variety reported in Wednesday editions.
Critics claimed Gibson's blockbuster film "Passion of the Christ" was anti-Semitic, a charge Gibson has denied. Gibson's father also is on the record denying that the Holocaust took place.
"For (Gibson) to be associated with this movie is cause for concern," Rafael Medoff, director of the David S. Wyman Institute for Holocaust Studies in Melrose Park, Pennsylvnaia, told the Times. "He needs to come clean that he repudiates Holocaust denial."
Gibson was in Mexico working on his upcoming film "Apocalypto" and couldn't be reached for comment.
Quinn Taylor, ABC's senior vice president in charge of television movies, had a harsh reply for early critics.
"Shut up and wait to see the movie, and then judge," Taylor, who oversaw ABC's Emmy-winning miniseries "Anne Frank," told Variety. "I'm not about to rewrite history. I'm going to explore an amazing love story that we can all learn from and, hopefully, be inspired by."
As recounted in the 1998 memoir "Flory: Survival in the Valley of Death," Van Beek and her husband survived the sinking of their ship as they tried to flee Holland, then three years of hiding during the German occupation.
The movie has not been formally green-lighted and wouldn't air until at least the 2006-07 season.
Starr
12-08-2005, 03:02 AM
He has to atone for his crimes in making the Passion. And what a better way than to make a movie about the Jew's favorite subject.
Vindex
12-08-2005, 06:18 AM
Damn right! That fucking shit movie, just drove people deeper into rabbi jewsus, religion of jew worship. It was the best propaganda movie the jewdo-christian industry ever had. If anything it was anti-Aryan.
He has to atone for his crimes in making the Passion. And what a better way than to make a movie about the Jew's favorite subject.
daisy
12-08-2005, 06:34 AM
i'm not about to rewrite history. i'm going to explore an amazing love story that we can all learn from and, hopefully, be inspired by."oh a love story. i might go see that.
The Retard
12-08-2005, 07:26 AM
Mel Gibson is an anti-Semite and should never be allowed to make another movie again.
Starr
12-08-2005, 07:44 AM
I might agree, but that is a little harsh. He should be lashed six million times and made to beg for forgiveness at the feet of Abe Foxman every day for the rest of his life. He can then continue to make movies, but every dime he makes must be immediately sent to either the Simon Wisenthal center, Israel, or to aid in the construction of a new holocaust museum. If, at any time, he refuses any of these conditions, then he will be tried, executed and made into a nice hearty dinner for Ariel Sharon.
Crowley
12-08-2005, 01:08 PM
Mel's horning in on strictly kosher subject matter. :nono:
Damn right! That fucking shit movie, just drove people deeper into rabbi jewsus, religion of jew worship. It was the best propaganda movie the jewdo-christian industry ever had. If anything it was anti-Aryan.
It was actually an extremely good movie. More than I had expected from a guy who starred in Lethal Weapon.
Jimbo Gomez
12-08-2005, 04:16 PM
Lethal Weapon was helluva cool!
Except when that negro cop shot the Afrikaner diplomat, but I ignored that part.
Berianidze
12-08-2005, 06:56 PM
I saw the 'passion' and didn't see it as "anti-semitic" whatsoever; I did on the other hand think it was a terrible movie and not worth my $6.50 (I'm grateful for matinee prices). I don't know why mel gibson would feel the need to explore this topic anymore, wasn't Schindler's List enough? I'm tired of it altogether, I don't even care anymore.
Eisenhans
12-09-2005, 04:00 AM
Is Gibson a jew? He sure acts like one....
Billy Score
12-09-2005, 04:06 AM
Mazdak takes on the holocaust-
If it happened, it obviously wasn't effective and if it didn't happen then hitler was a moron who should have done it. Because if you are being tried for a crime, you might as well commit it. I personally don't care about the holocaust. I would have done a better job. why does anyone try to deny it? I'd be kind of proud if my movement was known for slaying 6 million adversaries(or whatever the number is).
Mazdak takes on Mel Gibson-
He's got balls of steel and i respect his fanatical catholicism. He sticks to his guns to a degree.
Starr
12-09-2005, 04:10 AM
He seemed to be quite lacking in those balls of steel when he removed certain scenes from the Passion because the Jews were bitching.
Ixtab
12-09-2005, 10:07 PM
Mazdak takes on the holocaust-
If it happened, it obviously wasn't effective... 'Effective' at what?
... and if it didn't happen then hitler was a moron who should have done it.What kind of choplogic is this?
Because if you are being tried for a crime, you might as well commit it. I personally don't care about the holocaust. I would have done a better job. why does anyone try to deny it? I'd be kind of proud if my movement was known for slaying 6 million adversaries(or whatever the number is). Do you ever say anything coherent?
Daniel Shays
08-01-2006, 12:25 PM
Mel Gibson loses development deal after arrest (http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/entertainment/15169874.htm)
ANDREW GLAZER
Associated Press
LOS ANGELES - Mel Gibson has lost a development deal with ABC for a miniseries on the Holocaust days after he was arrested for drunken driving and, according to authorities, made anti-Semitic remarks as he was taken into custody.
"Given that it has been nearly two years and we have yet to see the first draft of a script ( :D ), we have decided to no longer pursue this project," ABC said in a one-sentence statement issued Monday.
Network spokesman Kevin Brockman declined to say whether the decision to drop the project it was developing with Gibson's Icon Productions had anything to do with the actor-director's arrest early Friday.
Meanwhile, the sheriff's deputy who arrested Gibson said Monday he feels badly that the star's reputation has been damaged and hopes Gibson will think twice before drinking and driving.
"I don't take pride in hurting Mr. Gibson," Deputy James Mee told The Associated Press during an interview outside his home.
"What I had hoped out of this is that he would think twice before he gets behind the wheel of a car and was drinking," added Mee, a 17-year veteran of the Sheriff's Department. "That would be my hope that this would accomplish that. I don't want to ruin his career. I don't want to defame him in any way or hurt him."
Mee also said he didn't take any of Gibson's remarks seriously.
Gibson reportedly unleashed an anti-Semitic tirade and made other offensive comments after he was pulled over for speeding early Friday in Malibu and was then arrested for driving under the influence of alcohol.
He was released several hours later after posting $5,000 bail, and a sheriff's booking photo released Monday showed a neat but tired looking Gibson leaning toward the camera with a half-smile.
On Monday the Sheriff's Department sent its case to prosecutors, according to a law enforcement official who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the case. According to the official, the report states that Gibson made anti-Semitic remarks and threatened a sheriff's deputy.
The report also says a tequila bottle was found in Gibson's car when he was pulled over on the Pacific Coast Highway.
An arrest report signed by Mee and posted on the celebrity news Web site TMZ quoted Gibson as saying, "The Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world," and asked the arresting officer, "Are you a Jew?"
Gibson, who released a lengthy statement Saturday apologizing for having said "despicable" things during his arrest, said he behaved "like a person completely out of control."
Mee, who is Jewish, would not comment specifically on what Gibson said.
"That stuff is booze talking," the deputy said.
Gibson, who said in his statement he has struggled with alcoholism for most of his life, was arrested for drunk driving in Canada in 1984 after he was involved in a minor accident.
"Yeah, the police dragged me in. They put me in the back of their truck," he recalled in a 1985 interview with Playboy magazine.
People magazine reported in 1996 that although Gibson still drank occasionally he had seemed to put what the magazine called his "hellion" days of rude behavior, barroom fights and carousing behind him.
"I realized that I had used alcohol as a prop," he told the magazine then. "I'd missed out on the jobs of being a parent."
Gibson's publicist, Alan Nierob, told The Associated Press on Monday the actor-director is involved in a program to deal with his drinking.
"The guy is trying to stay alive," Nierob said.
Gibson is scheduled to be arraigned Sept. 28 on the drunken driving charge.
The Sheriff's Department's initial account of Gibson's arrest made no mention of the alleged anti-Semitic remarks and said the arrest occurred without incident, leading to allegations that Mee's initial report had been "sanitized" and that there was an effort to cover up the seriousness of what had happened.
This is not the first time Gibson has faced accusations of anti-Semitism. He produced, directed and financed "The Passion of the Christ," which some Jewish leaders said cast Jews as the killers of Jesus. Days before "Passion" was released, Gibson's father, Hutton Gibson, was quoted as saying the Holocaust was mostly "fiction."
Sheriff's Department spokesman Steve Whitmore insisted Monday there had been no cover-up and defended the department's handling of the case.
"We hope we've done it with not only professionalism and intelligence, but held to the highest standard of legal and moral imperative," Whitmore said.
The issue of a cover-up arose in part because Gibson has supported the Sheriff's Department. He once dressed in a deputy's uniform to film public service announcements for Sheriff Lee Baca's Star Organization, which raises scholarships for children of department employees. Gibson also donated $10,000, Whitmore said.
Gibson, 50, won a best-director Oscar for 1995's "Braveheart," and starred in the "Lethal Weapon" and "Mad Max" films, among others.
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Associated Press Writers Jeremiah Marquez and Sandy Cohen contributed to this report from Los Angeles.
Thread on the planned miniseries that was going to use the Holocaust as a "backdrop".
http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2059
ABC is owned by the Jew infested Disney co., of course they will blackball Mel.
WFHermans
08-01-2006, 12:29 PM
Mel Gibson has lost a development deal with ABC for a miniseries on the Holocaust days after he was arrested for drunken driving and, according to authorities, made anti-Semitic remarks as he was taken into custody.
"Given that it has been nearly two years and we have yet to see the first draft of a script, we have decided to no longer pursue this project," ABC said in a one-sentence statement issued Monday.
Makes perfect sense. How can you make a documentary script about something that never happened?
Ahknaton
08-01-2006, 12:36 PM
Is Gibson a jew? He sure acts like one....
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Totenkopf
08-01-2006, 01:05 PM
Go to hell, Mel!
Cool rhyme.
Daniel Shays
08-01-2006, 01:16 PM
Go to hell, Mel!
Cool rhyme.
He was going to use it as a backdrop and would most likely not have been orthodox holohoax material. Anyway, ABC has dropped the idea since he came out as an anti-semite...
http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=11324
He seemed to be quite lacking in those balls of steel when he removed certain scenes from the Passion because the Jews were bitching.
He removed a subtitle, that's all.
Billy Score
08-01-2006, 06:28 PM
'Effective' at what?
Breaking jewry?
What kind of choplogic is this?
hitler has been defamed for perpetrating a mass genocide. This is what people associate with him. My point is that if he didn't do it, then he should have. If i am going to be charged with murder i did not commit, i might as well go blow someone away, as it won't make any difference.
Do you ever say anything coherent?
No, probably not.
WFHermans
08-01-2006, 06:46 PM
I'm amazed the national socialists didn't kill all the jews during world war two, because they were accused of having done that anyway.
Now millions of jews were free again in 1945, demanding reparations, claiming they were all gassed, and robbing and killing goyim worldwide.
Commander
08-01-2006, 06:48 PM
I'm amazed the national socialists didn't kill all the jews during world war two, because they were accused of having done that anyway.
Now millions of jews were free again in 1945, demanding reparations, claiming they were all gassed, and robbing and killing goyim worldwide.
Pastor Bob says is no fan of Hitler !
The Fuhrer neglected his work.
The Fuhrer was a Judeo-Nazi !
The Retard
08-01-2006, 06:49 PM
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Well that was 9 months ago. :)
Starr
08-01-2006, 06:57 PM
Maybe with all that is going on now, he will make some changes on this movie after consulting with his dad.:222: Imagine what would happen to the guy, then.
The Retard
08-01-2006, 07:07 PM
He's already kissing ass.
"I'm not just asking for forgiveness," Gibson said. "I would like to take it one step further, and meet with leaders in the Jewish community, with whom I can have a one-on-one discussion to discern the appropriate path for healing."
"We are glad that Mel Gibson has finally owned up to the fact that he made anti-Semitic remarks, and his apology sounds sincere. We welcome his efforts to repair the damage he has caused," said Abraham H. Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League. "Once he completes his rehabilitation for alcohol abuse, we will be ready and willing to help him with his second rehabilitation to combat this disease of prejudice."
:rofl:
Starr
08-01-2006, 07:15 PM
"Given that it has been nearly two years and we have yet to see the first draft of a script
LOL. Do they honestly think this was possibly going to be some kind of revisionist film? He removed scenes from the Passion when the jews yelled enough and has apologized for his recent comments. He has balls, on one hand, but they seem to disappear rather quickly when a little pressure is applied. That is not the kind of person who is going to come out with a revisionist film. He would need balls of steel for something like that. The best thing they could have done would have been to allow it.
Winston
08-01-2006, 07:33 PM
He's already kissing ass.
:rofl:
That makes me want to puke. That and Foxman's bullshit. Sounds like Gibson will be shackled and taken on a tour of the local Holocaust shrine.
Why is this thread even in the revisionism forum?
Starr
08-01-2006, 07:36 PM
"I'm not just asking for forgiveness," Gibson said. "I would like to take it one step further, and meet with leaders in the Jewish community, with whom I can have a one-on-one discussion to discern the appropriate path for healing."
:sick: It is Marlon Brando all over again.
Daniel Shays
08-01-2006, 10:10 PM
LOL. Do they honestly think this was possibly going to be some kind of revisionist film?
It was probably going to be controversial; for instance, depiction of some Jews as less than heroic characters, etc. His disinterest in submitting (I'm sure he completed) a script is telling.
He removed scenes from the Passion when the jews yelled enough and has apologized for his recent comments.
He removed a (1) subtitle, not a scene.
He has balls, on one hand, but they seem to disappear rather quickly when a little pressure is applied.
This keyboard jockey criticism of Mel Gibson is absurd. Finally a huge Hollywood star comes out against the Jews and all that you can do is take potshots because he isn't on the phone with Ingrid Zuendel.
Omniel
08-01-2006, 10:13 PM
Personally, I couldn't care less about what he's said about Jews, at least not from a moral perspective. It's not his comments but his actions that disgust me: drunk drivers are scum.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BCkiBLv4fA&search=Jacqueline%20Saburido
WFHermans
08-01-2006, 10:15 PM
Mel Gibson said he removed the subtitle because the jews threatened to murder him.
"Jesus was walking in Galilee, for he wouldn't walk in Judea, because the Jews sought to kill him."
Starr
08-01-2006, 10:23 PM
"His blood be on us and on our children"
Matthew 27:25
The only people who take bible stories literally and would be deeply affected by these words are the people who have already seen this passage many times, anyway. So I don't get what the big deal is with these particular words.
Mel Gibson said he removed the subtitle because the jews threatened to murder him.
:link: His career, maybe.
Martin Kuklinski
08-01-2006, 10:30 PM
He made $210.000.000 with The Passion Of The Christ.
Ranked number 1 on Forbes 2004 "Celebrity 100 List". He was the highest paid celebrity in 2004 with a reported $210,000,000 salary from his The Passion of the Christ (2004) profits, plus a potential $150,000,000 that is yet to be accounted for. He made more money than Oprah Winfrey The Talkshow Bitch ($210,000,000), J.K. Rowling, the artist of the dull Harry Potter books ($147,000,000), Tiger Nigga Woods with golfsticks & Michael Schumacher, the Krauth with wheels ($80,000,000 each) and Steven Spielberg ($75,000,000) in 2004.
Sulla the Dictator
08-02-2006, 06:38 AM
He seemed to be quite lacking in those balls of steel when he removed certain scenes from the Passion because the Jews were bitching.
Which scenes did he remove?
Sulla the Dictator
08-02-2006, 06:39 AM
:rofl: Looking at this thread, with friends like Nazis, who needs enemies?
Ask the Italians or the Hungarians. :rofl:
Starr
08-02-2006, 06:44 AM
Which scenes did he remove?
Matthew 27:25
Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.
Sulla the Dictator
08-02-2006, 07:21 AM
Matthew 27:25
That scene is in the movie.
Basil Fawlty
08-02-2006, 11:07 AM
"I'm not just asking for forgiveness," Gibson said. "I would like to take it one step further, and meet with leaders in the Jewish community, with whom I can have a one-on-one discussion to discern the appropriate path for healing."Bring your cheque book.
"We are glad that Mel Gibson has finally owned up to the fact that he made anti-Semitic remarks, and his apology sounds sincere. We welcome his efforts to repair the damage he has caused," said Abraham H. Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League. "Once he completes his rehabilitation for alcohol abuse, we will be ready and willing to help him with his second rehabilitation to combat this disease of prejudice."This is macabre and chilling, reminiscent of self-denuciation at the Moscow Show Trials or POW's in the Korean War.
cerberus
08-02-2006, 02:14 PM
Don't forget the "People's Court" Basil.
It was booze talking - leave the man alone.
Ahknaton
08-02-2006, 02:18 PM
Fucking Jews! I own Malibu!!!
The booze talking.
"I'm not just asking for forgiveness," Gibson said. "I would like to take it one step further, and meet with leaders in the Jewish community, with whom I can have a one-on-one discussion to discern the appropriate path for healing."
The Jews talking.
Ahknaton
08-04-2006, 08:05 AM
Well that was 9 months ago. :)
He wasn't Jewish 9 months ago either. :D
Commander
08-04-2006, 09:41 AM
Mel Gibson should have a show on the Turner Radio Network "Mel's Truth" where he tell's it like it is about the Jews. It could be on the same day as Hal's show and Yaweh's Truth. :whip:
Helios Panoptes
08-04-2006, 08:44 PM
hitler has been defamed for perpetrating a mass genocide. This is what people associate with him. My point is that if he didn't do it, then he should have. If i am going to be charged with murder i did not commit, i might as well go blow someone away, as it won't make any difference.
If you were falsely accused of sodomizing an infant, would you say you might as well do it because it won't make any difference?
Sulla the Dictator
08-04-2006, 08:48 PM
If you were falsely accused of sodomizing an infant, would you say you might as well do it because it won't make any difference?
In every major exchange on the Holocaust on this board and others, its been conclusively proven that the Holocaust happened. You have seen these debates, as you have been a longtime member. These new guys are just regurgitating the same old talking points.
Helios Panoptes
08-04-2006, 08:54 PM
To be perfectly honest with you, I do not even read the holocaust debates. I have reached the conclusion that I don't care enough to investigate the topic. I have no opinion and no desire to form one.
Commander
08-04-2006, 08:55 PM
In every major exchange on the Holocaust on this board and others, its been conclusively proven that the Holocaust happened. You have seen these debates, as you have been a longtime member. These new guys are just regurgitating the same old talking points.
This word "holocaust", when I was in school the Jewspeak experts had not yet coined it. (in relation to WW2 deaths)
You say it happened, sure, a few Jews died, it does not take a genius to figure that out. It does however, take someone with the mentality of a Jehova Witness to still believe this fairytale about "da' 6 million".
Sulla the Dictator
08-04-2006, 09:24 PM
This word "holocaust", when I was in school the Jewspeak experts had not yet coined it. (in relation to WW2 deaths)
Irrelevant.
You say it happened, sure, a few Jews died, it does not take a genius to figure that out.
By 'a few', you mean millions, of course.
It does however, take someone with the mentality of a Jehova Witness to still believe this fairytale about "da' 6 million".
So do you deny German mistreatment of Soviet POWs, mass executions of Soviet personell, and the German program of reprisals as well? Do you think the murder of Gypsies, Poles, Communists, Serbs, and the handicapped are also fabrications? Or is it just, coincidentally, the Jews that wern't killed? The Jews that you just happen to dislike.
Mackie
08-04-2006, 09:28 PM
Every communist deserve their death.
But oh wait, sulla is yet another denier, he seems to think commies were flawless gods of the world and that no mass murder happened.
Commander
08-04-2006, 10:03 PM
Irrelevant.
Oh, no it's not irrelevant. The Jew spinmasters coined that phrase on purpose. Read up on what Prof. Norman Finkelstein has to say about this, & then talk to me.
Keystone
08-04-2006, 10:40 PM
To be perfectly honest with you, I do not even read the holocaust debates. I have reached the conclusion that I don't care enough to investigate the topic. I have no opinion and no desire to form one.
I could not agree more.
Whether it was 6 million or 1 million or 100...Millions of other folk died in 20th Century wars, and not one group is cried over like the Jews. Boo- hoo. Maybe we should stop having wars, instead.
Meh.
Sulla the Dictator
08-04-2006, 11:19 PM
But oh wait, sulla is yet another denier, he seems to think commies were flawless gods of the world and that no mass murder happened.
Its strange how someone with a self declared IQ of 146 seems to have missed the point of that entirely. I think everyone else got where I was going with that business.
Sulla the Dictator
08-04-2006, 11:20 PM
Oh, no it's not irrelevant. The Jew spinmasters coined that phrase on purpose.
Maybe because Jews have a natural interest in memoralizing their dead parents, grandparents, wives, husbands, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, and friends....?
Read up on what Prof. Norman Finkelstein has to say
So then....you accept the conclusions of Norman Finkelstein?
Oh wait, let me guess; this is another SELECTIVE reading of his works.
Basil Fawlty
08-04-2006, 11:22 PM
So then....you accept the conclusions of Norman Finkelstein?
Oh wait, let me guess; this is another SELECTIVE reading of his works.Implying that if you read a book you either agree with everything or nothing?
Sulla the Dictator
08-04-2006, 11:27 PM
Implying that if you read a book you either agree with everything or nothing?
Must be nice to have people think for you, highlight the portions of books they want you to read, and then ignore the rest as 'part of the conspiracy'.
Commander
08-04-2006, 11:28 PM
Maybe because Jews have a natural interest in memoralizing their dead parents, grandparents, wives, husbands, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, and friends....?
Is it just a matter of "memoralizing" or is it more complicated than that?
So then....you accept the conclusions of Norman Finkelstein?
Oh wait, let me guess; this is another SELECTIVE reading of his works.
I accept Prof. Finkelstein's conclusions on this aspect of the "Holocaust Industry". If I do not accept everything he says, how is that bad? I don't accept all statements of just about everyone, Tom Metzger included.
For the record, I think Prof. Finkelstein's observations on this subject are pretty spot-on. I cannot recall what he says the #'s of deaths were, it is possible on this matter I would not agree with him.
Sulla the Dictator
08-04-2006, 11:34 PM
Is it just a matter of "memoralizing" or is it more complicated than that?
Finkelstein says its more than that, I don't really agree. Then again, I didn't cite him, you did.
I accept Prof. Finkelstein's conclusions on this aspect of the "Holocaust Industry".
Convenient. Its strange that Finkelstein, while not only pointing out hoaxes (Mostly in regard to profit motive), argues against the particularism of the Holocaust. Yet at the same time, he states that Deniers (Such as yourself) are utterly absurd loons.
If I do not accept everything he says, how is that bad?
You only accept the parts that you like. You ignore the actual premise of his work. His position is that the Holocaust is not exceptional as it relates to the United States, not that the Holocaust did not happen.
For the record, I think Prof. Finkelstein's observations on this subject are pretty spot-on. I cannot recall what he says the #'s of deaths were, it is possible on this matter I would not agree with him.
LOL
Winston
08-04-2006, 11:49 PM
Yet at the same time, he states that Deniers (Such as yourself) are utterly absurd loons.
Finkelstein told me that he had never once read any revisionist literature. I imagine he's begin to change his mind if he did.
Basil Fawlty
08-05-2006, 12:01 AM
Must be nice to have people think for you, highlight the portions of books they want you to read, and then ignore the rest as 'part of the conspiracy'.That's a bit paranoid of you.
Starr
08-05-2006, 12:30 AM
Millions of other folk died in 20th Century wars, and not one group is cried over like the Jews.
yes, and what else is talked about, in numerous movies and televison shows, made into memorials everywhere and used in all kinds of ways? Anyone who speaks about the Jews in a negative way is sure to get the holocaust thrown in their face. Talk about any kind of racial issues in an "unacceptable" way and they bring it out. Who remembers how the Jews wanted to copyright the word? lol
And on top of all of that what other "event" can get you thrown in prison for talking about it in a non-approved way? That is one of the things that give it an almost religious like feel.
Maybe because Jews have a natural interest in memoralizing their dead parents, grandparents, wives, husbands, brothers, sisters, aunts, uncles, and friends....?
And many of them do this by using it as a political tool. Do you see anything wrong in this?
Keystone
08-05-2006, 01:01 AM
yes, and what else is talked about, in numerous movies and televison shows, made into memorials everywhere and used in all kinds of ways? Anyone who speaks about the Jews in a negative way is sure to get the holocaust thrown in their face. Talk about any kind of racial issues in an "unacceptable" way and they bring it out. Who remembers how the Jews wanted to copyright the word? lol
I got into a discussion about the Jews and World II with a Jewish woman I work with. She started in about how FDR didn't do enough to save the Jews or the Allies didn't do enough to save the Jews. She got really frantic.
I reminded her of the other millions who died in the war who were gentiles on both sides. I also told her about my Uncle Eddie, my dad's oldest brother, who paid the ultimate price:
AMERICAN BATTLE MONUMENTS COMMISSION
World War II Honor Roll
Edward R. Mullner
Technical Sergeant, U.S. Army Air Forces
Service # 33287564
366th Bomber Squadron, 305th Bomber Group, Heavy
Entered the Service from: Pennsylvania
Died: November 26, 1943
Buried at: Plot D Row 11 Grave 22
Ardennes American Cemetery
Neupre, Belgium
Awards: Purple Heart
He was fighting the Germans, who she said were the persecutors of the Jews.
That still didn't satisfy her, because he was just one guy who got shot down, and not a whole race of people! Well, it was a holocaust for my grandparents.
I get tired of the BS.
I could not agree more.
Whether it was 6 million or 1 million or 100...Millions of other folk died in 20th Century wars, and not one group is cried over like the Jews. Boo- hoo. Maybe we should stop having wars, instead.
Meh.
The Real Holocaust was perpetrated in Russia and Eastern Europe circa 1917-1933.The Tribe and its agents went about the business of murdering 20-30 million Christians and liquidating small farmers and businessmen and the middle classes in general.
If not for this orgy of mass murder,robbery,dispossession and Talmudic 'all the goyims' possessions shall belong to us' campaign of criminality and barbarity,there might have never been an extreme reaction like Nazi Germany,or a WW2.
But the holucausting of the goyim is far from over.The Tribe and its stooges are pushing hard for a WW3 'Clash of Civilizations'.I guess they want to finish the job they started in 1914:to kill off the last bit of cream of European civilization;to finish draining the White gene pool until only the rumpen proletariat dregs remain.If they succeed in this endeavor,a thousand years of Judaic Empire is all but assured,as there will be no possibility of overthrow from the ruined,proletarianized Western world.
Mass non-White,3rd world immigration also furthers this goal,as demographic browning-over degrades and destroys White populations.
To rule in perpetuum,as the Tribe aims to do,entails creating conditions and engineering populations most conducive to perpetual slavery.They knew Whites would never accept Communism,so we have been Communized through the backdoor,through our best being killed off in endless manufactered conflicts and demographic engineering.
50-60 million of the best White men were slaughtered off in the 20th C.,with millions more on the way if WW3 can be brought to fruition.Eventuall only the rump Whites wil be left.Combine this with massive influx of brown/black/yellow hordes to swamp the West with even more degraded populations and in a few more generations the West will be reduced to what the rest of the world already is:a slave/prole plantation over which a few can rule in perpetuum.
The Tribe M.O. can be summed up thus:reduce everything to a dungheap,be master over this dungheap.Or as Milton put it:"Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven".Milton was speaking of Satan,but he could have just as easily written the same about You-Know-Who.
They'd rather be absolute rulers over a degraded dungheap of a world than be bit players in a more sane and decent order of things.That these creatures have enough nukes to destroy the planet a hundred times over should chill you to the bone,because what if their world domination schemes don't pan out and they are subject to some rough justice by a pissed off,fed up world?
I believe these bastards are crazy and evil enough to take the world down in flames with them.If they can't rule it then no one will...live.
Basil Fawlty
08-06-2006, 01:07 AM
Convenient. Its strange that Finkelstein, while not only pointing out hoaxes (Mostly in regard to profit motive), argues against the particularism of the Holocaust. Yet at the same time, he states that Deniers (Such as yourself) are utterly absurd loons.Where does he says that?
Crowley
08-06-2006, 01:24 AM
That still didn't satisfy her, because he was just one guy who got shot down, and not a whole race of people! Well, it was a holocaust for my grandparents.
I get tired of the BS.
You are probably a closet antisemitic hater.
Northern_Paladin
08-06-2006, 01:37 AM
I'm glad he has repented of his anti-semitism.:)
Pastor Visser
08-06-2006, 02:12 AM
Mel Gibson said he removed the subtitle because the jews threatened to murder him.
"Jesus was walking in Galilee, for he wouldn't walk in Judea, because the Jews sought to kill him."
Interesting, the verse really says:
"After these things Jesus walked in Galilee: for he would not walk in Jewry, because the Jews sought to kill him" (John 7:1)."
...no wonder.
;)
Negrotic Overlord
08-06-2006, 03:46 AM
Jesus was a Jew.
If all the Christians were dead, the remainder of the white races would be healthy enough to do what we're not in this Christian, democratic time.
Mackie
08-07-2006, 10:20 PM
Its strange how someone with a self declared IQ of 146 seems to have missed the point of that entirely. I think everyone else got where I was going with that business.
Self declared, what does that mean? Just to play the ignoramus, as you want me to be :)
Obviously I declared it my self because I know it, whats your point?
(also, I like alcohol. I make many, oh so many pointless claims.)
Petyr Baelish
08-07-2006, 10:29 PM
To be perfectly honest with you, I do not even read the holocaust debates. I have reached the conclusion that I don't care enough to investigate the topic. I have no opinion and no desire to form one.
I am of the same position, yet for some reason this does not stop Sulla from regularly associating me with the revisionists and Nazis on this board; I suppose I can understand this particular debate tactic - there is no ad hominem more effective than "you support killing babies in gas chambers".
Mackie
08-07-2006, 11:21 PM
I am of the same position, yet for some reason this does not stop Sulla from regularly associating me with the revisionists and Nazis on this board; I suppose I can understand this particular debate tactic - there is no ad hominem more effective than "you support killing babies in gas chambers".
Let me give a pointer, its just sulla and he is a communist symphatizer.
You shouldnt really care.
///M power
08-08-2006, 09:41 AM
Lethal Weapon was very good,also braveheart, he is a good actor,and he makes good movies,hope is next one will be good,surly he suffers from what he said about the Jews,lets see how his next movie would be like and then ill decide if i forgive him. :whip:
il ragno
08-08-2006, 10:25 AM
Gibson's Con Artist Productions is developing "Flory" for ABC, based on the true story of a Dutch Jew named Flory Van Beek and her non-Jewish boyfriend who sheltered her from the Nazis, The New York Times and Variety reported in Wednesday editions.
I don't see how Gibson could 'hate' the Jews, given that he named his production company after them.
He could emphasize his contrition, however, by changing the title of his Holocaust movie from FLORY to NEVER MIND THE BOLLOCKS, HERE'S THE WORST HORROR IN ALL HUMAN HISTORY.
Maybe we should stop having wars, instead.
Then how would Jews have risen from the shtetl and the pushcart to shaping 'reality' via the media, and policy via the Administration? What are you, a J00-hata?
War may not be healthy for children and other living things - but it's the mother's milk of Jewish advancement!
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