Saving White Europeans.

[Galdr]

Why don't nationalists buy private land and gather amongst each other to do somthing that is actually beneficial instead of petty bickering?


( Keep in mind I am a nationalist myself.)

[Galdr]

Keep in mind that if you purchase large areas of private property you can do whatever you want with it.

[Jimbo Gomez]

a) Have you looked at the prices of real estate lately?
b) You're still bound by national laws, no matter how much land you own.

[Count Sudoku]

You may want to check out

http://www.northwesthomeland.org/main.html

http://www.timebomb2000.com/misc/CWII.pdf

http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19276&page=3

(see post #27 Janus)

[Galdr]

a) Have you looked at the prices of real estate lately?
b) You're still bound by national laws, no matter how much land you own.


Money aside with private land you can invite or block anyone you want to.

If nationalists came together there would be proper funding I think.

[delete]

Why don't nationalists buy private land and gather amongst each other to do somthing that is actually beneficial instead of petty bickering?


Because we intend to have it all.

I think we will have a religious war with the muslimes, as enough of the western people are starting to see Islam as a threat.
You are young, so you don't see the change in attidtude that have happened the last 10 years only. People are openly talking about getting rid of the muslimes, although they are mostly joking, but this alone is a major change.

I think it is the internet, and the end of the cold war that made it posible, and I think it is the internet that will make it imposible to hinder this war.

[Sulla the Dictator]

Why don't nationalists buy private land and gather amongst each other to do somthing that is actually beneficial instead of petty bickering?


( Keep in mind I am a nationalist myself.)

Because they're too cheap, too selfish, and disorganized. Add to that the fact that they all consider themselves the Future Fuehrer.

The interesting thing about these people is that they are like old 1980s communists. Largely debunked, but dead enders. And people like that are incapable of 'agreeing to disagree' on issues, even trivial ones. So they view each other as heretics, and the 98% of people who are not white supremacists view them as lunatics.

[Captain Marinesko]

The problem is that actually DOING something would ruin the whole scam. It's better to keep goals vague and/or lofty. This is how you hook the followers.

[Jimbo Gomez]

Sure, you buy up a few blocks in any European country and make an explicit policy of renting out to whites only. See where it gets you. A little dose of realism never hurt anyone you know.

[Galdr]

Sure, you buy up a few blocks in any European country and make an explicit policy of renting out to whites only. See where it gets you. A little dose of realism never hurt anyone you know.

I fail to see what bad could come out of it.

I can't think of any nationalist group that has tried it and I think it would be a great start in bringing nationalists together. When you own private land you control who comes in and who doesn't.

[Jimbo Gomez]

If you try to use ethnic criteria to decide who gents to rent it and who doesn't, trust me my friend, you'll end up in court within a month. If you really are German you would know this.

[Dr. Gutberlet]

I fail to see what bad could come out of it.

I can't think of any nationalist group that has tried it and I think it would be a great start in bringing nationalists together. When you own private land you control who comes in and who doesn't.



:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :whip:

[Galdr]

If you try to use ethnic criteria to decide who gents to rent it and who doesn't, trust me my friend, you'll end up in court within a month. If you really are German you would know this.

The Amish in America don't seem to have a problem.'

Also I am not so sure if the courts have jurisdiction over private land.

If it was public property they would sure have jurisdiction but I am not so sure about private property.


If you really are German you would know this.

I know people feel hopeless these days but I honestly believe that people need to adapt today if white European nationalism is to survive.

[Jimbo Gomez]

The Amish live in rural America. Try that same stuff anywhere in Europe and they'll throw the book at you.

[Count Sudoku]

I fail to see what bad could come out of it.

I can't think of any nationalist group that has tried it and I think it would be a great start in bringing nationalists together. When you own private land you control who comes in and who doesn't.

Unfortunately even when you own land privately, the government can meddle. There was a case recently where a town was accused of not welcoming "diversity" enough and were going to be punished economically by the state because of it.

However, your idea is a good one as political power follows ultimately from physical occupation. The problem is that WN is spread too thin everywhere. If we were all in one place (preferable a small country) we could really have things our way.

[Galdr]

Unfortunately even when you own land privately, the government can meddle. There was a case recently where a town was accused of not welcoming "diversity" enough and were going to be punished economically by the state because of it.

However, your idea is a good one as political power follows ultimately from physical occupation. The problem is that WN is spread too thin everywhere. If we were all in one place (preferable a small country) we could really have things our way.


Unfortunately even when you own land privately, the government can meddle. There was a case recently where a town was accused of not welcoming "diversity" enough and were going to be punished economically by the state because of it.

This is where white European nationalists need to study international law with courts on our side through bureaucracy.


However, your idea is a good one as political power follows ultimately from physical occupation. The problem is that WN is spread too thin everywhere. If we were all in one place (preferable a small country) we could really have things our way.

Instead of trying to build a country we could just be a tycoon of buying private land by essentially taking over a small part of a country over a period of time by buying private real estate.

By buying land and investing money into businesses of various kinds we can become a economical force to be reckoned with if we put our minds to it.

[Galdr]

The Amish live in rural America. Try that same stuff anywhere in Europe and they'll throw the book at you.

There has to be way around the law in Europe.

Surely there has to be some European nationalists that are educated in law. Someone needs to check into it before accepting hopelessness.

[Jimbo Gomez]

There is nothing in international law which prohibits states from putting limits on the use of private property. I am a jurist and I tutor international law to rich and lazy lawstudents. Trust me, I looked into it. As horrible as it is, it isn't illegal for states to prohibit 'discrimination' in the private sector.

[Galdr]

There is nothing in international law which prohibits states from putting limits on the use of private property. I am a jurist and I tutor international law to rich and lazy lawstudents. Trust me, I looked into it. As horrible as it is, it isn't illegal for states to prohibit 'discrimination' in the private sector.

What if the private sector was families?

Surely they can't interrupt private families. Family businesses would be somthing very hard to interrupt I would think.

[Jimbo Gomez]

That'd be more difficult, but unless you are related to just about every WN on the planet, what good would it be?

[Count Sudoku]

This is where white European nationalists need to study international law with courts on our side through bureaucracy.

Yeah, good luck with that.

Instead of trying to build a country we could just be a tycoon of buying private land by essentially taking over a small part of a country over a period of time by buying private real estate.

Even in the United States the government can "buy" your privately held land and decide to dump 10 000 Somalis into the middle of it. I'm not saying your idea is totally without merit, but I just assume take the course of action that produces the best results. There are thousands of whites fleeing the blessings of "diversity" in the UK and the Netherlands to live in other countries. If they were all to go to one small country it could be enough to tip the political balance there.

By buying land and investing money into businesses of various kinds we can become a economical force to be reckoned with if we put our minds to it.

Most of us aren't loaded with money unfortunately. Perhaps we should form our own secret society (it doesn't even have to be secret) where we are inclinded to help each other out (i.e. patronize each other's businesses). The Jews work together as well as other ethnic groups. Racially aware whites should do the same as well.

[Galdr]

That'd be more difficult, but unless you are related to just about every WN on the planet, what good would it be?

You wouldn't have to be related to each other. A tycoon could empower white families to buy businesses while helping them buy private real estate for their families.

Essentially all neighbors would be white families living side by side and the businesses would be of a similar concept.

( Assuming that a tycoon put together was pro-white nationalism.)

[delete]

You wouldn't have to be related to each other. A tycoon could empower white families to buy businesses while helping them buy private real estate for their families.

Essentially all neighbors would be white families living side by side and the businesses would be of a similar concept.

( Assuming that a tycoon put together was pro-white nationalism.)

You don't get it. We intend to make the change by taking over the government, or to get the major political parties to turn nationalistic.

I just cruised the major online debating fora in Norway, like the TV-stations and the major newspapers. What I found was basically the that 50% is in favor of sending home all muslimes.
I am really happy because of this, because it shows that far more people hate immigrants than the people in power like to admitt in newspapers and TV.

Most of the half of the population who hates Islam, don't yet know the really bad things about muslimes, like that a somali man needs to cut open his woman with a knife, and then have sex with her repeatedly, so that she does not grow back together again.

I also look forward to the day when the crazy animal rights people find out how the muslimes treats their animals. I also think the environmentalists are easy prey to make into haters of muslimes.

[Sulla the Dictator]

Sure, you buy up a few blocks in any European country and make an explicit policy of renting out to whites only. See where it gets you. A little dose of realism never hurt anyone you know.

They could always move to Russia. The Russians wouldn't care, neither would the Serbs. But white nationalists aren't interested in living in either of those places.

[Count Sudoku]

You may want to check out

http://www.northwesthomeland.org/main.html

http://www.timebomb2000.com/misc/CWII.pdf

http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=19276&page=3

(see post #27 Janus)

addition...

http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/why_we_do_it_and_is_it_enough/

[DarkReaver13]

If White Nationalists really felt strongly about their beliefs, they could buy up a large section of land in America somewhere, and all move there. It would be fairly easy to organize through SF or whatever. If they really felt there was a bond between themselves and their "brethren" then they could all fund each other's travel costs - I'm sure the money paid to SF for subscriptions would cover some of it. The problem is, Don Black would never use that money for something like this, something which would actually get the WN movement somewhere, instead of just bickering on internet forums all day.

Never going to happen though, because White Nationalism is a movement that doesn't move - it's all in their minds or written in internet databases.

[Galdr]

We need to become of movement of action instead of empty promises and convictions........

If we don't stand together united we die and if we only grumble in the shadows we shall surely die.........

[Captain Marinesko]

They could always move to Russia. The Russians wouldn't care, neither would the Serbs. But white nationalists aren't interested in living in either of those places.

They will care when those WNs start running around using prostitutes, womanizing, and preaching all the while about the evil "Jooz" and how the Soviet Union was run by Jooz while Hitler was a hero. That is those that learn enough of the language or talk to English speaking Russians.

I'm of Ukrainian descent, speak conversant Russian, and have a massive knowledge of Russian history and culture- yet I still get eyed(not literally, I generally fit in) with suspicion for being "American".

[delete]

We need to become of movement of action instead of empty promises and convictions........

If we don't stand together united we die and if we only grumble in the shadows we shall surely die.........

We need the white majority to turn openly racist. Before this is done, some other whites is going to destroy you.
Some countries in europe are turning right now, but I am not sure what you should do in the USA.

[Galdr]

We need the white majority to turn openly racist. Before this is done, some other whites is going to destroy you.
Some countries in europe are turning right now, but I am not sure what you should do in the USA.

In bold what did you mean? :confused:


but I am not sure what you should do in the USA.

United States is pretty much no man's land in my book and most times I don't even know what American nationalists should do.

Obviously we need to unite but I am not too fond of the American national socialists or the kkk.

[Watzy]

The interesting thing about these people is that they are like old 1980s communists.

Not surprising since even some ex members of Hitler's SS turned them selves into eloquent Communists after ww2.

A Nazi-Communist Günter Grass - criticizer of Helmut Kohl and Ronald Reagan:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnter_Grass

[Dr. Gutberlet]

american wn are a bunch of fools, with no place left for them in the world. They are often hopelessly unilingual, and will never fit in anywhere else but usa.

[Galdr]

american wn are a bunch of fools, with no place left for them in the world. They are often hopelessly unilingual, and will never fit in anywhere else but usa.

Ahem I live in the United States and not all of us are fools.:welcome:

[Dr. Gutberlet]

Ahem I live in the United States and not all of us are fools.:welcome:

does not matter either way, usa will be in history's dustbin soon enough. I suggest you flee the sinking ship sooner rather than later.

[Jimbo Gomez]

Ahem I live in the United States and not all of us are fools.:welcome:


You know, some people would interpret this post as flamebait. ;)

[Galdr]

You know, some people would interpret this post as flamebait. ;)


Their interpretation would be wrong.

[Galdr]

does not matter either way, usa will be in history's dustbin soon enough. I suggest you flee the sinking ship sooner rather than later.

I have thought about leaving but honestly I am not sure where to go.

Believe me if I could leave this country if I had the means to do so I would of already been gone by now.

It is simply that I don't have the funds to do so at this time not to mention where would I go?

[Galdr]

I have thought about a couple of countries I wouldn't mind going to:

Iceland
Northern Germany
Ireland
Scotland
Norway

Of course at this point it is all pie in the sky.

[Dr. Gutberlet]

I have thought about a couple of countries I would mind going to:

Iceland
Northern Germany
Ireland
Scotland
Norway

Of course at this point it is all pie in the sky.


ROFL! North Germany(ie. Hamburg) is a degenerate hellhole crawling with muslims and race mixers like my ex-fiance. Out of those I would say southern Ireland Republic is your best bet. Spain and Italy(Euros with a backbone and courage) would be better choices overall. Forget Sverige, we're doomed too.

[delete]

I have thought about a couple of countries I wouldn't mind going to:

Iceland
Northern Germany
Ireland
Scotland
Norway

Of course at this point it is all pie in the sky.

You are more than welcome to move to Norway.

Just go to some Norwegian forum, say you are anti-Bush, and are unable to live in that evil capitalistc society, and out pops a socialist, eager to help a sworn enemy of bush. :) Keep your racist and nationalistic tendences hidden, and you will be fine.

PS. Dr. Gutberlet is related to these guys, so I kind of feel sorry for the immigrants when the swedes comes to their sences.

The first Swedish attack on Jamtland came in the year 1563 and was followed by a short, Swedish occupation. However the Swedes were driven out of Jamtland by Danish/Norwegian forces during the same year.
The next Swedish attack came soon, at the beginning of the year 1564 and was followed by a 7 years occupation. The Swedish king Erik the XIV had told his Swedish forces to "burn, plunder and kill as much as possible, as it is better that Jamtland is a desert land than a hostile country."
...snip...
The third Swedish attack came in the year 1611 with a new wave of plundering, violence and murder by the Swedish general Baltzar Bäck. (Baltzarfejden). "Not even the child in the cradle should be saved", he said.
...snip...
The fourth Swedish attack came in 1644, but the occupation was of short duration, because the Jamtlanders for the first time now choosed side and took part in the struggle against the Swedish invaders. The leader was Christen Rasmusson, and together with the Danish/Norwegian forces the Jamtlanders chased the Swedes out of Jamtland, after just a few months of Swedish occupation!
...snip...
Jamtland was after 1645 a Swedish province and the Swedes started to make Jamtland Swedish. Only Swedish priests were allowed to work in Jamtland. A Swedish school was founded at Frösön. Young Jamtlanders were forced to serve in the Swedish wars outside Jamtland, such as in the battle of Lund 4th december 1676, where a brigade of Jamtlanders was placed in the frontline to be killed. Not until the 18th century did the Swedes dare to let the Jamtlandic soldiers to stay in Jamtland. A Swedish town was founded on the desert land at the easter sound (öster-sund) in 1796. The Jamtlanders old center, Frösön [lit. 'the god Freys island'], lost step by step its status: the postoffice, the market, the school, the library and finally, the regiment was moved in to the new, Swedish city of Östersund.
http://web.telia.com/~u63501054/Krigsterrorn.eng.html

[Galdr]

I have decided today that four years from now I am moving out of the United States.


I have come to three designated areas:

Norway
Iceland- I have been really thinking about Iceland lately.
Ireland.

[Galdr]

What do people know about Iceland?

[Dr. Gutberlet]

I know that usa army base brings many niggers to there. and icleandic women flock to them. like i said, go to ireland or italy or spain to avoid niggers and nigger-lovers. Scandinavia has WAY too many nigger lovers.

[Galdr]

Dr. Gutberlet and Delete what are your opinions?

[Galdr]

I know that usa army base brings many niggers to there. and icleandic women flock to them. like i said, go to ireland or italy or spain to avoid niggers and nigger-lovers. Scandinavia has WAY too many nigger lovers.

I really would like to move to a Scandinavian country though. :(

[Kodos]

a) Have you looked at the prices of real estate lately?
b) You're still bound by national laws, no matter how much land you own.

You need about 15 trillion dollars so you can build a super military in some 3rd world country you've taken over.

Or if you just want to invade France you need 2 billion so you can have one actual brigade and a bunch of plastic figures and then they'll surrender.

[Galdr]

I have also thought about the Faroe Islands.

[Galdr]

I really do need peoples advice on these locations I am naming because in all seriousness I'm moving out of the United States.

I have already set a date of when I will be moving.

[Galdr]

At this moment I am leaning more towards Iceland.

The other four locations have not been ignored however in my decision.

[Zubenelgenubi]

At this moment I am leaning more towards Iceland.

The other four locations have not been ignored however in my decision.
Are you prepared to be very cold?

[Galdr]

Are you prepared to be very cold?

Yes I am.

:)

[Galdr]

http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?p=314549#post314549


I created this thread for my planned immigration so that the original topic of this thread doesn't get hijacked.

I would invite anybody to share some suggestions as this has been the dominant topic of my day.

[Stick to the Facts]

Why don't nationalists buy private land and gather amongst each other to do somthing that is actually beneficial instead of petty bickering?


( Keep in mind I am a nationalist myself.)

1) They are poor.

2) There isn't any agreement on what a WN would actually be like.

[Stick to the Facts]

I really would like to move to a Scandinavian country though. :(

You might be better off in Vermont.

[Stick to the Facts]

You need about 15 trillion dollars so you can build a super military in some 3rd world country you've taken over.

Or if you just want to invade France you need 2 billion so you can have one actual brigade and a bunch of plastic figures and then they'll surrender.

Unless of course your country's name is Italy. And even after the Nazis soften up France for you and are sipping chardonnay at the Louvre, you get 1/4 of your armed forces wiped out by French troops. You know, the ones the Italian army just happed to run into as the French were running away from the Nazis.

[Stick to the Facts]

http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?p=314549#post314549


I created this thread for my planned immigration so that the original topic of this thread doesn't get hijacked.

I would invite anybody to share some suggestions as this has been the dominant topic of my day.

Ok, if you want the original topic back....

"Nationalists" could all live together without any minorities bothering them. It is not hard. It DOES require that you buy your own property - and there's the REAL sticking point. Most WN don't have a lot of cash to spare for obvious reasons. They would much rather invest their money in guns so they can just take someone else's land away from them.

Of course, long before they do that they will get picked off, one by one, for some felony or another. And then they will have to give all their pretty guns away. :(

[Galdr]

Ok, if you want the original topic back....

"Nationalists" could all live together without any minorities bothering them. It is not hard. It DOES require that you buy your own property - and there's the REAL sticking point. Most WN don't have a lot of cash to spare for obvious reasons. They would much rather invest their money in guns so they can just take someone else's land away from them.

Of course, long before they do that they will get picked off, one by one, for some felony or another. And then they will have to give all their pretty guns away. :(

This thread was created for real solutions and not dilusional multicultural ones. ;)

[Galdr]

You might be better off in Vermont.

I welcome you to give me some advice in the thread I have created.

I would like any advice I can get as this recent decision to move out of the United States is a very important subject of my life right now.

[Galdr]

1) They are poor.

2) There isn't any agreement on what a WN would actually be like.

Isn't that a over generalization though?

I believe the issues is much more complicated than that.

[Stick to the Facts]

This thread was created for real solutions and not dilusional multicultural ones. ;)

I am entirely serious. You can get a bunch of white people together and not have to worry about any minorities moving in. It is really a no brainer. The onyl problem is that you have to buy the land. Your people, unfortunately, don't have a lot of cash. For some reason they think that trying to fight against the US government to steal land for other people is a really good solution to their problem of not having enough money to buy land.

That's a smart group you're involved with.

[Stick to the Facts]

Isn't that a over generalization though?

I believe the issues is much more complicated than that.

Well, let's put it this way. The few and far between wealthy WN types (assuming any actually exist) COULD finance such a purchase of land, but they are apparently unwilling to blow a chunk of their own money and let those other people mooch off them.

[Galdr]

StickToTheFacts beyond this thread you have said that you have a feasible way where nationalists can have their own land and way of living.

Now is the chance to explain your views.

[Captain Marinesko]

Well, let's put it this way. The few and far between wealthy WN types (assuming any actually exist) COULD finance such a purchase of land, but they are apparently unwilling to blow a chunk of their own money and let those other people mooch off them.

WN leaders generally use the money to pay for their own land.

[Felix the Cat]

A self-defeating project.

It's contact with other races that causes "racism". Remove the other races and your WN wonderland will quickly fill up with liberal hippie one-worlders...

[Dr. Gutberlet]

It really is not that cold in most ofd Scandinavia. i wonder where crazy people get this notion. If you go near the arctic, sure. But for example Malmö is closer to Milan in terms of distance and weather than it is to northern Sverige.

[Dr. Gutberlet]

Besides, why would you want to live amongst wn morons? Whites sure, but wn are a bore. yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn:deadhorse: americans are weird

[Furor Teutonicus]

The title of this thread should be called "Saving Europeans" instead because the Untermenschen, regardless if they are born there, are not European.

[Captain Marinesko]

A self-defeating project.

It's contact with other races that causes "racism". Remove the other races and your WN wonderland will quickly fill up with liberal hippie one-worlders...


A good point, for both the left and right.

[FAF]

i think that buying it is just silly. and it's not that easy

you are meant to fight for it. you are meant to rejuvenate your group and kick the rivals out. this can be physical force (PIRA) or it can be about amassing power subtley (APAIC etc)

what ever works, it's called real politik and people can snort all they want and cry about "pie in the sky rheotoric etc" at the end of the day....the zionist jews had annual meetings across europe to organise the creation of israel and this was done 150-100 years before it was founded. there is documented proof of this so i guess that prooves anything is possible if you are relentlessly fanatical.

mucho gracias

[Ambrosio Spinola]

A self-defeating project.

It's contact with other races that causes "racism". Remove the other races and your WN wonderland will quickly fill up with liberal hippie one-worlders...

I disagree. Racism was well and good throughout the west for milenia I dare to say. And while they loved to get at their white neighbour´s neck most understood racial differences and quite some feelings/ideas we have about other races can be traced back to such days.

[Ambrosio Spinola]

Aditionally I confess that a wet dream of mine is to win the lottery and get such arable land to have a few familes make one of such communities.

[Kim Jong Tha Illest]

i think that buying it is just silly. and it's not that easy

you are meant to fight for it. you are meant to rejuvenate your group and kick the rivals out. this can be physical force (PIRA) or it can be about amassing power subtley (APAIC etc)

what ever works, it's called real politik and people can snort all they want and cry about "pie in the sky rheotoric etc" at the end of the day....the zionist jews had annual meetings across europe to organise the creation of israel and this was done 150-100 years before it was founded. there is documented proof of this so i guess that prooves anything is possible if you are relentlessly fanatical.

mucho gracias

Perhaps the lesson is that the dream of a white homeland will be realized at such a time that the position of white europeans in society is similar to that of european jews circa 1880? It's hard to get people worked up when their standard of living is relatively high... This is true even of Zionists, there was much more support for the movement (especially early on) in countries like Russia, where jews were unassimilated, poor, and socially retarded than in, say, the anglosphere where they were relatively well-off and socially mobile.

[Count Sudoku]

I am entirely serious. You can get a bunch of white people together and not have to worry about any minorities moving in. It is really a no brainer. The only problem is that you have to buy the land. Your people, unfortunately, don't have a lot of cash. For some reason they think that trying to fight against the US government to steal land for other people is a really good solution to their problem of not having enough money to buy land.

That's a smart group you're involved with.

That's fucking nonsense. There has been plenty of all white communities that have been ethnically cleansed by blacks and mexicans moving in. Why not pick one of those "sundown" towns like the one they featured on CNN a few months back and when CNN calls again inquiring about (white) racism (the only kind that seems to matter) say "yes as a matter of fact we are racists and blacks are as welcome here as whites are in the Bronx." Shit, you don't even have to own the land, just rent.

[delete]

That's fucking nonsense. There has been plenty of all white communities that have been ethnically cleansed by blacks and mexicans moving in. Why not pick one of those "sundown" towns like the one they featured on CNN a few months back and when CNN calls again inquiring about (white) racism (the only kind that seems to matter) say "yes as a matter of fact we are racists and blacks are as welcome here as whites are in the Bronx." Shit, you don't even have to own the land, just rent.

It is dead easy to ethnically cleanse a small minority out of a small town. Say the local police is racist, so that they never catch the guilty one if there is a anti-black crime, while the white population lets some of their craziest run loose. If the white teenage boys starts to copy, the area would be free of immigrants in no time.

This is the way areas have been cleansed for centuries, and you can witness the extreme version in Iraq.

[Starr]

this is a good thought and it gets tossed around a bit. If it was in a very rural area the chances of non-whites even wanting to live there would go down quite a bit. And you would definitely have to pick an area that would not have much appeal to them to avoid the hassle of them wanting to move in and causing a stink when they were refused. As things are right now that is all it would take. If we are such terrible, evil bigots, you would think people would be happy to allow us to have our own little area, somewhat away from all of those who embrace diversity, but that, of course, is not how it works. we have absolutely no right of association.

[FAF]

It is dead easy to ethnically cleanse a small minority out of a small town. Say the local police is racist, so that they never catch the guilty one if there is a anti-black crime, while the white population lets some of their craziest run loose. If the white teenage boys starts to copy, the area would be free of immigrants in no time.


this is exactly what is happening in Russia, Belarus and some Eastern German towns over the last decade, last years etc. The same thing was done in reverse in France during riots of November 2005 as arabs consolidated their power in ghetto areas. These things happen all the time in race politics you just have to look as it is too inflammatory to publish in the main stream press.

[Captain Marinesko]

That doesn't happen here. The police COULD get illegals deported, but instead they hit the illegals up for bribes. It's not a lot of money but it's reliable.

[Rakhmetov]

Hasn't it occurred to any of you that the increase of non-whites does not result in decreased whites numerically? If there are 5 million Irish in Ireland and suddenly 5 million non-whites immigrate, the number of Irish would not numerically decrease.

[Captain Marinesko]

Industrialization lowers birthrates, and the only way to offset this is with socialism. Many third-worlders come from developing countries where all trends support big families. I think if you took the time to check, you would see that 3rd or 4th generation immigrants from say, Africa tend to have families closer to that of European whites rather than those of new arrivals.

[Count Sudoku]

Hasn't it occurred to any of you that the increase of non-whites does not result in decreased whites numerically? If there are 5 million Irish in Ireland and suddenly 5 million non-whites immigrate, the number of Irish would not numerically decrease.

Actually the presence of 5 million non-whites would lower the number of Irish by making some of the Irish leave and lowering the birth rate of the rest.

[Lieutenant William Bligh]

Industrialization lowers birthrates, and the only way to offset this is with socialism. Many third-worlders come from developing countries where all trends support big families. I think if you took the time to check, you would see that 3rd or 4th generation immigrants from say, Africa tend to have families closer to that of European whites rather than those of new arrivals.

How would socialism encourage Whites to increase the size of their families?

[Count Sudoku]

How would socialism encourage Whites to increase the size of their families?

Make them so poor they can't afford birth control and can't afford to do anything for entertainment other than have sex?

[Lieutenant William Bligh]

Make them so poor they can't afford birth control and can't afford to do anything for entertainment other than have sex?

I would hope the solution is more long-term sensible than that. Well of course, the rich, the educated, the smart, tend to have less children, than the poor and the ignorant. I'm not going to be satisfied with a dead-end to my own evolution.
I don't want a mansion with three swimming pools, if I get no heirs, no nation, no common culture. I don't want a swarm of poor bashing down the doors of my house, desperate to gain what they are denied. Maybe, it would be better for Whites to be poor, or for all condoms to cease production?

So, I say, again, if there is ANY WAY a socialist system can fix things, so that they do not self-destruct I want to know?

[Captain Marinesko]

How would socialism encourage Whites to increase the size of their families?


1. There would be the destruction of consumerism.

2. Free health care

3. Guaranteed livable pensions

4. A lot more leisure time.

5. Quality day care, schools, and youth activities to take care of the children.

6. Free education so no reason to save for college.

7. No debt.

There are many ways to reduce the burden.

[Count Sudoku]

Funny thing, in Europe where they have those things the birth rate has plummeted to all time lows.

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I would hope the solution is more long-term sensible than that. Well of course, the rich, the educated, the smart, tend to have less children, than the poor and the ignorant. I'm not going to be satisfied with a dead-end to my own evolution.
I don't want a mansion with three swimming pools, if I get no heirs, no nation, no common culture. I don't want a swarm of poor bashing down the doors of my house, desperate to gain what they are denied. Maybe, it would be better for Whites to be poor, or for all condoms to cease production?

So, I say, again, if there is ANY WAY a socialist system can fix things, so that they do not self-destruct I want to know?

The socialism we have in Norway is one of the reasons that racism is on the rise, and that we sterilized gypsies and other undesirables up until the 1970-ies.

The welfare state can not survive parasites, and the norwegian people are aware of this. Some of the socialists are of the most vocal anti-immigration people we have.

We also have the trend that the rich, the educated and the smart, tend to have more children, as the lower people abort them.

[Captain Marinesko]

Funny thing, in Europe where they have those things the birth rate has plummeted to all time lows.


No, you don't really have those things at all. You have for the most part failed welfare states, not socialist states.

[Captain Marinesko]

The socialism we have in Norway is one of the reasons that racism is on the rise, and that we sterilized gypsies and other undesirables up until the 1970-ies.

The welfare state can not survive parasites, and the norwegian people are aware of this. Some of the socialists are of the most vocal anti-immigration people we have.

It is good that the socialists there realize that. I wish I could say the same for those in France and Belgium. What people need to realize is this isn't about superiority, or hating other races, or anything like that. It's about the ability of nations to provide a healthy existence for their people. You can't have a socialist-type system while a growing private sector continues to import and employ millions of immigrants.

[Count Sudoku]

No, you don't really have those things at all. You have for the most part failed welfare states, not socialist states.

And the difference being (other than poverty in socialist states?).

[Captain Marinesko]

And the difference being (other than poverty in socialist states?).

Poverty? Compare what they had during socialism to what they had before. I'm not going to make excuses for every form of socialism in the 20th century, but if racial homogeny is what you wanted they had it.

Funny how every nationalist becomes a materialist if you suggest socialism.

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Poverty? Compare what they had during socialism to what they had before. I'm not going to make excuses for every form of socialism in the 20th century, but if racial homogeny is what you wanted they had it.

Funny how every nationalist becomes a materialist if you suggest socialism.

Socialism, nationalism and liberalism is just words for me.

My only goal is to let Norway suvive and prosper in the future, and the only way that is going to happen is if the self-styled socialists, liberalists and capitalists agree that immigrants is crap.

Luckily this is happening as we speak, and people are getting less and less interested in the labels of the last centurey.

[Felix the Cat]

I disagree. Racism was well and good throughout the west for milenia I dare to say. And while they loved to get at their white neighbour´s neck most understood racial differences and quite some feelings/ideas we have about other races can be traced back to such days.
Southern Europeans have lived in close proximity to hostile brown people for centuries, so understandably have strong instinctive prejudices against them

Atittudes tend to be different in northwestern Europe, and the northern part of North America

[Keystone]

Atittudes tend to be different in northwestern Europe, and the northern part of North America
I think you might be generalizing a bit, there.

[Starr]

Hasn't it occurred to any of you that the increase of non-whites does not result in decreased whites numerically? If there are 5 million Irish in Ireland and suddenly 5 million non-whites immigrate, the number of Irish would not numerically decrease.


well, obviously.:p But in this example, white native Irish people would now only be 50% of the population which is going to mean the country is going to change dramatically, possibly leading also to a situation where the native population will be dealing with a lot of issues(increased crime rate, higher taxes, competition for jobs, more crowding.etc.etc)that is going to make them not want to bring as many children in the world as they once would have. Whites also plan and are future oriented so it would make sense that they might not be as likely to want to bring kids into an increasingly bad situation. Whereas some non-whites will keep popping them out no matter what conditions they are living in.

[MrAngry]

well, obviously.:p But in this example, white native Irish people would now only be 50% of the population which is going to mean the country is going to change dramatically, possibly leading also to a situation where the native population will be dealing with a lot of issues(increased crime rate, higher taxes, competition for jobs, more crowding.etc.etc)that is going to make them not want to bring as many children in the world as they once would have. Whites also plan and are future oriented so it would make sense that they might not be as likely to want to bring kids into an increasingly bad situation. Whereas some non-whites will keep popping them out no matter what conditions they are living in.

This whole post is full of assumptions, stereotypes and prejudice, I don't suppose you'd want to validate some of these assertions?

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This whole post is full of assumptions, stereotypes and prejudice, I don't suppose you'd want to validate some of these assertions?

What is wrong with stereotyping and prejudice?

If norwegian ladies kill all somalis in Norway, no more somali will rape or breed here.