Denigration of 'the white American male'

[Osmium14]

Denigration of 'the white American male'

SIOUX CITY -- Let me state from the beginning that I like women. In fact, I’m married to a very wonderful, pretty, hard-working woman. There are great women I work with at my current job and have absolutely no problem in doing so. I have no problem in them achieving whatever goals they desire...

Read the rest here: http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/articles/2007/02/25/news_opinion/letters/0abdb21c695a6fe58625728b008049d4.txt

:mad: This pisses me off a lot... Actually this portrayal is one of the reasons I refuse to watch 99% of TV programs and any sitcom.

[Julian Curtis Lee]

This denigration is going on constantly now in the Jewish dominated media. The daily examples are endless. It's definitely Race War at this point. The mind is the most important battlefield of all.

[Jake Featherston]

Check out the comments in reply to that article! Its sounds more like The Phora or StormFront than it does a mainstream periodical. Could winds of change be a-startin' to blow?

[Starr]

I am impressed by some of the comments on this story. I would be more impressed to learn these comments were from regular people responding to the article, rather than, for example, a bunch of posters from Stormfront. I do think the denigration of white males is so obvious that a lot of people can see it, but I am not so sure how many people out there know about how the high jewish presence in the media.

Edit: LOL. apparently I was typing this at the same time as Jake and we must have been thinking of the same thing.:)

"You seem to have a chip on your shoulder or some type of other issue. The two shows that you mention are comedies. The purpose of comedy is to make people laugh. I'm sure that while watching these shows you at least cracked a smile even though Tim or Ray were most likely making fools out of themselves. I don't here you complaining about the way women are portrayed as s*x objects or bimbos. Women and minorities are ridiculed in the same way as the white American male. Look at the commercials that feature Jessica Simpson! I'm a white blonde female, but I have a brain. Have you ever told or listened to a blonde joke? It's tv!!! Lighten up!"

this was more disturbing. He gives an example of women being denigrated, but fails to think about the fact that for some reason the first example that comes to his mind is a blond comment, which is directed at white females. Non white minorities are absolutely not shown in a negative light, why is this guy so easily able to lie to himself? If a show was denigrating non-whites, everyone would throw a fit and the show would be removed in a heartbeat.
It's tv, he says, lighten up! could he possibly be any more clueless about the effects that the media has on helping to shape people's perceptions? the saddest part is I bet this comment came from a white male.

[Galdr]

Noone is more hated than the white male in my opinion.

[Autoreduction]

I am impressed by some of the comments on this story. I would be more impressed to learn these comments were from regular people responding to the article, rather than, for example, a bunch of posters from Stormfront. I do think the denigration of white males is so obvious that a lot of people can see it, but I am not so sure how many people out there know about how the high jewish presence in the media.

Edit: LOL. apparently I was typing this at the same time as Jake and we must have been thinking of the same thing.:)



this was more disturbing. He gives an example of women being denigrated, but fails to think about the fact that for some reason the first example that comes to his mind is a blond comment, which is directed at white females. Non white minorities are absolutely not shown in a negative light, why is this guy so easily able to lie to himself? If a show was denigrating non-whites, everyone would throw a fit and the show would be removed in a heartbeat.
It's tv, he says, lighten up! could he possibly be any more clueless about the effects that the media has on helping to shape people's perceptions? the saddest part is I bet this comment came from a white male.
So the secret rulers of this world are black females, obviously the most priviliged class in todays soceity? You are making yourself look ridicolous and the article was certainly ridicolous.

[guy]

Politically, playing the 'poor/oppressed/discriminated against/etc card' might be the practical thing to do, but esthetically I would prefer a different approach. Yes, I realize that Blacks and Jews have used this tactic quite successfully, and I find that repulsive as well.

What would be a different approach? In this case, perhaps using these TV shows and commercials to show that the media is not pro-White, but without sounding too whiny about it. For example something like:

Some people claim that the media is racist and chauvinistic. But is this really the case? In many ways, the media actually seems anti-White, and anti-male. For example..
This way it doesn't sound like you are claiming to be 'oppressed'. You are just claiming that others are not oppressed either. How many people would believe that White males are really oppressed anyway? Yes, there are some ways in which White males are discriminated against. But I would keep things in perspective. For the record, stereotyping males as dumber than females also occurs in the Israeli media. When I would see this, I would laugh. I wouldn't be insulted.

[Count Eustace II]

Alot of the responses to that guy's editorial were pretty excellent. Saw some folks telling the truth about Jewish domination of the mass media and entertainment industry. I'm sure that editorial and it's responses will be pulled from that station's website sometime within the next hour or two. Can't have the masses getting any ideas about "Jewish media control" or widespread "anti-white male" media messages.

The amount of TV commercials that I have the misfortune to see sometimes always have the "dumb white male/smart woman or nigger" motif. Other commercials have the "white woman/nice nigger" motif too. In TV sitcoms too, the anti-white male message is ubiquitous. It's so pervasive that if you claim it doesn't exist and doesn't have an impact on the psychology of the idiotic masses then you're just lying.

[Jake Featherston]

There's a television show, "Everybody Loves Raymond," that is referenced in the linked article from post #1, starring Ray Romano. Has anyone else here seen that show? Man, I fucking hate that "Ray Barone" character he plays with every fiber of my being! He is such a worthless piece of shit, I want to murder him with my bear hands! And yet I don't think we're supposed to perceive him that way; we're supposed to perceive him as a lovable doofus, who's just slightly worse than we are. God, it makes me want to puke!

[Count Eustace II]

There's a television show, "Everybody Loves Raymond," that is referenced in the linked article from post #1, starring Ray Romano. Has anyone else here seen that show? Man, I fucking hate that "Ray Barone" character he plays with every fiber of my being! He is such a worthless piece of shit, I want to murder him with my bear hands! And yet I don't think we're supposed to perceive him that way; we're supposed to perceive him as a lovable doofus, who's just slightly worse than we are. God, it makes me want to puke!

Jake, I've witnessed this show in the past and within 30 seconds I saw the effeminate, whiny, poorly dressed Ray character as the most loathsome creation I've ever seen on TV. A sort of Jew character dressed up and passed off as an Italian.

But then I did a little research and found out that the show is actually written by a guy named Rosenthal and all my questions were answered.

[Galdr]

Jake, I've witnessed this show in the past and within 30 seconds I saw the effeminate, whiny, poorly dressed Ray character as the most loathsome creation I've ever seen on TV. A sort of Jew character dressed up and passed off as an Italian.

But then I did a little research and found out that the show is actually written by a guy named Rosenthal and all my questions were answered.

I like to call this the pussification of the white male by the media.

It irritates me daily.

[Rakhmetov]

I oppose all forms of racism. These racist attitudes towards whites like the derogatory "white trash" for demeaning working class people must be combatted. This systematic propaganda against whites is a conspiracy by international Zionism for trying to obstruct interracial solidarity because this would threaten their hegemonist ambitions. The Zionist tactic has always been to divide and conquer.

Noone is more hated than the white male in my opinion.

I don't think that's case. Minorities hate each other far more than whites. You also constantly see non-white people trying to copy whites.

[Zubenelgenubi]

On the subject of women in these family based sitcoms, the vast majority of them are really annoying. They're always either the boring and humorless "straight guy" or really dumb. Almost never funny.

[Helios Panoptes]

Sitcoms are almost never funny, in general. I've tried to watch this Raymond show. It was terribly lifeless and dry, and square, like something your grandmother might leave on while knitting. Plus, not only are all of the characters stupid(yet, as i said, not funny), they all have annoying voices.

[Zubenelgenubi]

Oh, and another thing: the dumb male and boring female thing doesn't only apply to sitcoms about white people, you can also see them in similar comedies about black people such as Family Matters.

Just thought I would point that out.

[Starr]

So the secret rulers of this world are black females, obviously the most priviliged class in todays soceity? You are making yourself look ridicolous and the article was certainly ridicolous.


You are puting words in my mouth. This article is about the negative way in which white males are portrayed in the media. Usually when saying something is ridiculous one should state their reasons why the view the idea as ridiculous. Merely calling something ridiculous is not an argument.


Oh, and another thing: the dumb male and boring female thing doesn't only apply to sitcoms about white people, you can also see them in similar comedies about black people such as Family Matters

This does seem to be somewhat, true, yes. In a male/female sense, it is generally the male who is portrayed in a more negative fashion, even when it is, for example, a black couple. I am not really seeing that the female is portrayed as boring, however. She is portrayed as being more reasonable and grounded. this might be what you are referring to. It is always the female who is more wise and she is always cleaning up the mess, so to speak, made by the male. There are certain portrayals of women that are negative, the catty, self centered trampy women in a show like Sex in the City, for example. Elaine in Seinfeld is another one like this. There is something about her character that I absolutely cannot stand. In the white/non-white portrayals it is almost always the whites who come out looking bad in either a stupid/ignorant or weak way or in a villian/asshole sort of way.

[Jake Featherston]

There are certain portrayals of women that are negative, the catty, self centered trampy women in a show like Sex in the City, for example. Elaine in Seinfeld is another one like this.

Getting a little off-the-subject here, I think people sometimes misunderstand the show "Seinfeld." Its a show about creepy, low-life degenerates; its SUPPOSED to be a show about creepy, low-life degenerates. Jerry, Elaine, and (obviously) George are suppsed to be unappealing, reprehensible ingrates (while Kramer, a decent human being, is still never-the-less a "hipster doofus"). If you relate to the characters on "Seinfeld," you should kill yourself. This isn't directed at anyone in particular, its just that I often get the impression people who watch(ed) that show thought Jerry and Elaine were somehow supposed to be sympathetic characters; they were not. And that is why I enjoyed that show. While on "Everybody Loves Raymond," the "Ray Barrone" character is supposed to be a more-or-less sympathetic potrayal of a normal American man, albeit with slightly exaggerated negative characteristics. And that pisses me off. If American men were like that "Ray Barrone" shithead, we'd be a Third World country. I do watch that show, however, because its something my wife enjoys, and I can root for the "Robert" character, who shares in my hatred for "Raymond" (my wife is beginning to as well). Plus, in the early season, the Patricia Heaton character ("Debra") is very physically attractive (although she ages fast on that show; in later episodes, she is not nearly as attractive).

[Zubenelgenubi]

This does seem to be somewhat, true, yes. In a male/female sense, it is generally the male who is portrayed in a more negative fashion, even when it is, for example, a black couple. I am not really seeing that the female is portrayed as boring, however. She is portrayed as being more reasonable and grounded. this might be what you are referring to. It is always the female who is more wise and she is always cleaning up the mess, so to speak, made by the male. There are certain portrayals of women that are negative, the catty, self centered trampy women in a show like Sex in the City, for example. Elaine in Seinfeld is another one like this. There is something about her character that I absolutely cannot stand. In the white/non-white portrayals it is almost always the whites who come out looking bad in either a stupid/ignorant or weak way or in a villian/asshole sort of way.

When I see the women (or at least the wives) on those shows, I see boring. But they are supposed to be the straight man to Tim Allen or Ray Romano's brand of dumb guy humor, this is what their characters are built around. If there is something more to be seen in their character, I guess I don't see it, but I think those shows are pretty dumb and not very entertaining anyway.

And I agree with Mr. Featherston that Seinfeld is supposed to be about degenerates. I think Sex in the City might be similar, but I haven't seen enough really to know, maybe half a show once.

Can you give examples of shows with whites and non-whites where your observation is the case?

[Kodos]

Yep, thats the one thing I don't like about the Simpsons...

Married with Children was great on this subject, as while the men were stupid the women were even fucking stupider.

An exaggerated portrait of real life :D.

[Kodos]

And I agree with Mr. Featherston that Seinfeld is supposed to be about degenerates.

Seinfeld was a show about nothing.

Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia is a show about degenerates.

[Crowley]

If the media isn't denigrating the American White male, it's deniggerating him, oh wait, it's the same thing!

[Zubenelgenubi]

Yep, thats the one thing I don't like about the Simpsons...


I think the Simpsons is meant to be a parody of those shows. You aren't really supposed to relate to anyone in the Simpsons either.

[Jake Featherston]

Seinfeld was a show about nothing.

Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia is a show about degenerates.

A show about nothing is what you watch when you stare at your television screen during a power outage.

Seinfeld was a show about middle class degenerates who went to college; Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia is about working class degenerates who didn't.

And then there are those homosexual, bi-incestuous (with each other and their repulsive sister) fraternal twins who wanted to stab the one doofus guy. What was their deal?

[Kodos]

Seinfeld was a show about middle class degenerates who went to college; Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia is about working class degenerates who didn't.

Dennis and Dee's (who did go to college just didn't finish) father (De Vito) is filthy rich, he just decided he liked being a lowlife better (LOL).

Mac and Charlie true.

[Julian Curtis Lee]

This would be a good thread to first publish my song:
"Johnny Oh!, Fulisade for the White Man."

I wrote it to help turn the tide. It's about the Eternal Male, and the Eternal White Man in particular.
Because men, manhood, and especially White men are under such grievous attack I wrote this song
as an offering in the fight for racial identity and pride for Whites, and for men. I urge other White
songwriters and artists of all stripes to mount the Great Rebellion and do the same.

Julian Lee

Johnny Oh!
Fulisade for the White Man
COPYRIGHT 2006 JULIAN LEE | ALL RIGHTS RESERVED
http://www.julianlee.com/JohnnyOh.html

[Felix the Cat]

Considering that these shows are seen around the world, I wonder what diplomatic/military consequences this white-americans-are-stupid-cowards meme may have had

[Osmium14]

If the media isn't denigrating the American White male, it's deniggerating him, oh wait, it's the same thing!

lol... :rofl: