The Suicide of the White Race

[Stick to the Facts]

A lot of racists/WN/neonazis whine endlessly about the genocide of the white race. They say it is going to become extinct, yada yada.

Why will it go extinct? Because white people interbreed with non-whites until there are no "pure whites" left.

What's the word used to describe when someone/thing destroys itself? Suicide.

This WN/racist/neonazi approach to preventing the suicide of the white race seems to me like this:

You have a suicidal person, and rather than take it up with them, you seek to destroy all of the possible weapons they could use.

Maybe your real problem is that it is impossible to talk the white race out of suicide, and you know it.

[Galdr]

A lot of racists/WN/neonazis whine endlessly about the genocide of the white race. They say it is going to become extinct, yada yada.

Why will it go extinct? Because white people interbreed with non-whites until there are no "pure whites" left.

What's the word used to describe when someone/thing destroys itself? Suicide.

This WN/racist/neonazi approach to preventing the suicide of the white race seems to me like this:

You have a suicidal person, and rather than take it up with them, you seek to destroy all of the possible weapons they could use.

Maybe your real problem is that it is impossible to talk the white race out of suicide, and you know it.

Again that is only half the problem.

You still have all those people who publicly advocate these multicultural/multiracial things.

These things could be said to exist as a extension of such publicly advocated measures. You are trying to shift all the blame on whites themselves but in this scenario that it is illogical.

[Stick to the Facts]

Again that is only half the problem.

You still have all those people who publicly advocate these multicultural/multiracial things.

These things could be said to exist as a extension of such publicly advocated measures. You are trying to shift all the blame on whites themselves but in this scenario that it is illogical.

Are you afraid that the white people are so simple minded that they are not able to figure out what is in their own best interest; that rather, you have to take all of the little temptations away from them for thier own good?

In the end, the only people who are going to determine who white people mate with are white people.

[Ahknaton]

The real cause of demographic collapse in Western nations is not race-mixing, but having a number of children below replacement level. Race-mixing is really a side issue, although it is a "hot button" issue for some.
Maybe your real problem is that it is impossible to talk the white race out of suicide, and you know it.
I don't think so.

A question: if a suicidal person attempts suicide in front of you, is it legitimate to use coercive force to prevent them? Or are you obliged to respect their right to kill themselves? If you think this is a bad analogy, hey, it's yours.

[Stick to the Facts]

The real cause of demographic collapse in Western nations is not race-mixing, but having a number of children below replacement level. Race-mixing is really a side issue, although it is a "hot button" issue for some.

Since that is something non-whites have nothing to do with whatsoever, I suggest that this is another matter best taken up with white people and not the other six billion people in the world.

A question: if a suicidal person attempts suicide in front of you, is it legitimate to use coercive force to prevent them? Or are you obliged to respect their right to kill themselves? If you think this is a bad analogy, hey, it's yours.

That is precisely what I am suggesting you do. Talk the WHITE PEOPLE out of it. What do you hope to achieve by blaming it on everyone else?

[Ahknaton]

Since that is something non-whites have nothing to do with whatsoever, I suggest that this is another matter best taken up with white people and not the other six billion people in the world.
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That's exactly who it IS being taken up with.

[Stick to the Facts]

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That's exactly who it IS being taken up with.

No. You're blaming it on the bystanders.

[Ahknaton]

No. You're blaming it on the bystanders.
Well, the bystanders are guilty of taking advantage of the situation, and of denying that it exists (because they would like to continue taking advantage of it, and they are glad to see collective White suicide).

However I don't think that anyone blames Blacks or Jews for low White birth rates per se, Blacks (in Europe anyway) are usually blamed for the increase in crime that happens when large numbers of immigrants are admitted into a country to prop up an economy that would suffer from labour shortages without them due to the demographic crisis. Jews are usually blamed for contributing to ideologies (e.g. feminism) that have played a part in reducing White birthrates (although the primary cause is industrialisation and modernity), but ultimately the blame rests with Whites. Personally that's been my position all along, so you are arguing with a straw man.

[Stick to the Facts]

Well, the bystanders are guilty of taking advantage of the situation, and of denying that it exists (because they would like to continue taking advantage of it, and they are glad to see collective White suicide).

So the white race is committing suicide, and the other races are sitting back not doing anything about it, and that somehow makes the suicide their fault? It still seems to be that the party to take this up with is white people.

However I don't think that anyone blames Blacks or Jews for low White birth rates per se,

Then I don't see what they have to do with it or why your issue is with them.

Blacks (in Europe anyway) are usually blamed for the increase in crime that happens when large numbers of immigrants are admitted into a country to prop up an economy that would suffer from labour shortages without them due to the demographic crisis.

But you aren't really suggesting that non-whites are murdering white people one by one, right? Surely a few murders aren't going to make or break the white race.

Jews are usually blamed for contributing to ideologies (e.g. feminism) that have played a part in reducing White birthrates (although the primary cause is industrialisation and modernity),

Those crafty Jews must be pretty darn smart if they are always using their Jedi mind control powers to manipulate whites. Thank goodness there are boards like this one with people who are smart enough to see through it.

but ultimately the blame rests with Whites. Personally that's been my position all along, so you are arguing with a straw man.

So if the blame is with whites, what's the point of a racist discussion board? It seems to me this site isn't about talking whites out of having relations with non-whites - there's plenty of that going on here. It seems more about hate and/or discrimination of non whites who have nothing to do with whites' suicide.

I think for anyone truly interested in white survival, getting involved in this race stuff is a distraction and counterproductive.

[MrAngry]

Again that is only half the problem.

You still have all those people who publicly advocate these multicultural/multiracial things.

This isn't the same as advocating mixing now is it? Who one decides to settle with and build a life with is a matter of choice, the point STTF was making is WN's want to remove that choice through an irrational fear.


These things could be said to exist as a extension of such publicly advocated measures. You are trying to shift all the blame on whites themselves but in this scenario that it is illogical.

He is pointing out this is a racist premis, not an exclusively white one.

[Ahknaton]

So the white race is committing suicide, and the other races are sitting back not doing anything about it, and that somehow makes the suicide their fault? It still seems to be that the party to take this up with is white people.
I don't know how you can take that meaning from my post. I specifically said that low White birthrate is ultimately the responsibility of White people.
Then I don't see what they have to do with it or why your issue is with them.
There are plenty of other areas in which the interests of Whites overlap (and occassionally conflict with) non-Whites besides demography. And also, the decline of the White population in terms of absolute numbers isn't necessarily the problem, it's the decline of White numbers in relation to other races that makes it an issue, because that affects the balance and distribution of political power both between and within nations. It's probably a good thing in some ways that the population is decreasing, because it puts less strain on the environment, but this is meaningless if the population of third world nations continue to have geometric growth rates. Ideally I'd like to see third worlders living at Western living standards, but if they did then the planet couldn't sustain it. This difference in population trends wouldn't be such an issue if they weren't moving to what have traditionally been our countries, because then it wouldn't affect the balance of political power in formerly White nations.
But you aren't really suggesting that non-whites are murdering white people one by one, right? Surely a few murders aren't going to make or break the white race.
Of course I'm not saying that, I'm just pointing out that even if Blacks aren't responsible for the decline in White demographics (and so far I haven't said that they arem regardless of your attempts to put those words into my mouth), there are still issues that any racially-aware White person would have with them unrelated to population growth/decline.
Those crafty Jews must be pretty darn smart if they are always using their Jedi mind control powers to manipulate whites. Thank goodness there are boards like this one with people who are smart enough to see through it.
There's nothing magical about influencing social policy via academia and ideology, and Jews are overrepresented in some areas of the ideological spectrum. It's just common sense to understand that this happens, not some kook conspiracy theory.
So if the blame is with whites, what's the point of a racist discussion board? It seems to me this site isn't about talking whites out of having relations with non-whites - there's plenty of that going on here. It seems more about hate and/or discrimination of non whites who have nothing to do with whites' suicide.
As I said, demographic decline isn't the whole issue, there are plenty of other "friction points" between racial groups. Demographics ties in to other races because:

1. Whites have less children.
2. Demographics decline.
3. Immigrants are bought in to make up labour shortage (this is the case in Europe anyway).
4. Immigrants commit crime/try to impose their values on us/gain political power that we'd rather they not have etc
5 -> Shitty situation.

Just because Whites are the ultimate cause of this chain of events doesn't magically exonerate non-Whites for committing disproportionate amounts of crime (and other social ills). Who's to blame for the spate of rapes in Scandanavia? The rapists, or the White people who didn't have enough children, necessitating the importation of foreign labour (including some rapists)? Blaming it on Whites is ridiculous.
I think for anyone truly interested in white survival, getting involved in this race stuff is a distraction and counterproductive.
You can't agitate for racial survival without raising racial consciousness first, and consciousness of one's own race necessarily requires the perception and recognition of an "other".

[Burrhus]

Would that Stick to the Facts would.

[Captain Marinesko]

Would that Burrhus stop putting everyone who asks him an inconvenient question on ignore.

But seriously...

There are populations in the world who have actually been assimilated by whites. Many "Tatars" in Tatarstan cannot be distinguished from European Slavs in any way(save for perhaps dark hair). Furthermore, the force that is driving immigration and migration is capitalism. At the same time, industrialization and the conditions of capitalism tend to drive birthrates down.

[Geist]

Europe is experiencing non-replacement level birthrates. That is why immigration exists (to fill a labour gap, and support aging Europeans although you may like to think theres a non-economic issue involved thats the truth of the matter as outlined in government policy).

Thus there is a very logical reason to believe that white Europeans will not replace themselves. Why? Because they cannot replace themselves at current birth rate levels.

The demographics of immigrant communities experience the opposite problem.

Race mixing occurs as societies become integrated.

Over time traditional 'white' European communities will be replaced.

It is quite simple, and observable.

When will it happen? Hundreds of years perhaps. Will it happen? Yes, most likely, but not completely so much as Europeans will be a minority in their traditional homeland.

Do I care? Not really. It is the cycle of the world. Do I find it funny that people think it won't happen? Of course.

[Lieutenant William Bligh]

Are you afraid that the white people are so simple minded that they are not able to figure out what is in their own best interest; that rather, you have to take all of the little temptations away from them for thier own good?

In the end, the only people who are going to determine who white people mate with are white people.

People who try to kill themselves, like mental patients, are always simple minded.
People who value money over themselves are simple minded.
Remove the instruments of destruction and teach him not to kill himself should be the procedure to save him.

[Burrhus]

Europe is experiencing non-replacement level birthrates. That is why immigration exists (to fill a labour gap, and support aging Europeans although you may like to think theres a non-economic issue involved thats the truth of the matter as outlined in government policy).

Thus there is a very logical reason to believe that white Europeans will not replace themselves. Why? Because they cannot replace themselves at current birth rate levels.

The demographics of immigrant communities experience the opposite problem.

Race mixing occurs as societies become integrated.

Over time traditional 'white' European communities will be replaced.

It is quite simple, and observable.

When will it happen? Hundreds of years perhaps. Will it happen? Yes, most likely, but not completely so much as Europeans will be a minority in their traditional homeland.

Do I care? Not really. It is the cycle of the world. Do I find it funny that people think it won't happen? Of course.

The question is: Would we be seeing the decline of the white nations of Western Civilization had the jews been been removed from those nations 100 years ago?

I think not.

Let's do an experiment. Remove all of the jews now and see what happens.

Will things get better?

I think so.

[Jim West]

I'm not worried, just so long as Donny Black keeps supporting WN pedophiles and ex-cons like Davey Duke keep sucking WN lemmings dry of their pocket change. WE WILL WIN!


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[Geist]

The question is: Would we be seeing the decline of the white nations of Western Civilization had the jews been been removed from those nations 100 years ago?

I think not.

Let's do an experiment. Remove all of the jews now and see what happens.

Will things get better?

I think so.

My honest opinion is that Jews or not we would head in this direction. It is the culmination of an advanced civilisation. As we progress we move away from higher pursuits, and revel in our material gain. In exchange for such wealth we give up our future. Feminism, multiculturalism, the death of religion are all the result of gentile thinking although perhaps speeded up by Jewish intellectuals. But it would have happened anyway. I do not believe Europeans are sheep that have been lulled by a Jewish manner of thinking so much as a people in the last throes of an exceptionally successful run at the top.

[jcs]

Europe is experiencing non-replacement level birthrates. That is why immigration exists (to fill a labour gap, and support aging Europeans although you may like to think theres a non-economic issue involved thats the truth of the matter as outlined in government policy).

Thus there is a very logical reason to believe that white Europeans will not replace themselves. Why? Because they cannot replace themselves at current birth rate levels.

The demographics of immigrant communities experience the opposite problem.

Race mixing occurs as societies become integrated.

Over time traditional 'white' European communities will be replaced.

It is quite simple, and observable.

When will it happen? Hundreds of years perhaps. Will it happen? Yes, most likely, but not completely so much as Europeans will be a minority in their traditional homeland.

Do I care? Not really. It is the cycle of the world. Do I find it funny that people think it won't happen? Of course.
I'd prefer things otherwise, but, these issues being non-essential, I find it impossible to actually care. Seems a distraction from more important matters.

[Geist]

I'd prefer things otherwise, but, these issues being non-essential, I find it impossible to actually care. Seems a distraction from more important matters.

Probably. There's certainly little than can be done about it. There are, of course, higher pursuits though I find no solace in religion unlike yourself.

[Dr. Gutberlet]

A fertility tax should be implemented, as it is done in Russia. Perhaps that will spark some births.

[jcs]

There are, of course, higher pursuits though I find no solace in religion unlike yourself.
This is a complete tangent, but the notion that that religion can give one solace strikes me as insane. How can, for instance, a Christian find comfort in God while on his death bed? God wants me to die; my death is a punishment. If I am consoled by God, I am in some way managing to lessen the punishment, depriving God of His justice. Rather, one must accept death as a man full of guilt will accept his punishment, and plead, plead, plead for mercy.
Also, what about Purgatory? It's all the suffering of Hell, but impermanent and with a purpose.
There was an explaination of Christianity I read once, I forget where. In short, one cannot follow Christ to rid oneself of just one of one's sins. Rather, the person who follows Christ must be willing to undergo the purgation of all his sins, Christ's love for us remaining unsatisfied until man is made perfect. It's almost brutal. Part of the reason I've yet to be confirmed is because I'm not ready to completely abandon myself and undergo this ordeal.
"Anyone who wishes to follow Me must deny self, take up the cross daily and follow Me." (Lk 9:23)
There is no solace in religion, except perhaps for the saint. No comfort--but there is meaning.

[Geist]

This is a complete tangent, but the notion that that religion can give one solace strikes me as insane. How can, for instance, a Christian find comfort in God while on his death bed? God wants me to die; my death is a punishment. If I am consoled by God, I am in some way managing to lessen the punishment, depriving God of His justice. Rather, one must accept death as a man full of guilt will accept his punishment, and plead, plead, plead for mercy.
Also, what about Purgatory? It's all the suffering of Hell, but impermanent and with a purpose.
There was an explaination of Christianity I read once, I forget where. In short, one cannot follow Christ to rid oneself of just one of one's sins. Rather, the person who follows Christ must be willing to undergo the purgation of all his sins, Christ's love for us remaining unsatisfied until man is made perfect. It's almost brutal. Part of the reason I've yet to be confirmed is because I'm not ready to completely abandon myself and undergo this ordeal.
"Anyone who wishes to follow Me must deny self, take up the cross daily and follow Me." (Lk 9:23)
There is no solace in religion, except perhaps for the saint. No comfort--but there is meaning.

Indeed. I often forget there are actual Christians about who understand that religion involves a recognition of suffering rather than a personal pursuit of solace. So to rephrase:

There are, of course, higher pursuits though I find no meaning in religion unlike yourself.

[FAF]

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Maybe your real problem is that it is impossible to talk the white race out of suicide, and you know it.

I think the real truth is that certain persons under certain circumstances would happily take your key board and shove it up your arse

and this process would be repeated across the land until all anti-white elements have been crushed and beaten.

only legislation is holding it back jiggaboo :rofl:

[Galdr]

A fertility tax should be implemented, as it is done in Russia. Perhaps that will spark some births.

That won't work.

So called minorities will call it racist and will demand that they be apart of this fertility tax.

[Dr. Gutberlet]

That won't work.

So called minorities will call it racist and will demand that they be apart of this fertility tax.

So-called minorities will all be given free cups of Jim Jones Kool-Aid.

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[Galdr]

So-called minorities will all be given free cups of Jim Jones Kool-Aid.

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[Captain Marinesko]

The question is: Would we be seeing the decline of the white nations of Western Civilization had the jews been been removed from those nations 100 years ago?

I think not.

Let's do an experiment. Remove all of the jews now and see what happens.

Will things get better?

I think so.

And that's why you're labelled a nutcase. Care to take a look at Jewish birthrates in those countries? How about the Jewish birthrate in Israel? Could it be that there may be some other factor that determines that?

[Sudaev]

Would that Burrhus stop putting everyone who asks him an inconvenient question on ignore.

But seriously...

There are populations in the world who have actually been assimilated by whites. Many "Tatars" in Tatarstan cannot be distinguished from European Slavs in any way(save for perhaps dark hair). Furthermore, the force that is driving immigration and migration is capitalism. At the same time, industrialization and the conditions of capitalism tend to drive birthrates down.

The Jew-Gentile intermarriage rate is proceeding to the point where Jews are going to be out-bred in the not-too-distant future. I wonder what Burrhus will think then?

[Conservationist]

Humanity as a whole is committing suicide from bad decisions. Why would the white races be any different?

[Count Sudoku]

Since that is something non-whites have nothing to do with whatsoever, I suggest that this is another matter best taken up with white people and not the other six billion people in the world.

That is precisely what I am suggesting you do. Talk the WHITE PEOPLE out of it. What do you hope to achieve by blaming it on everyone else?

What the fuck do you think most of us our doing? And who objects to it when we do? This describes how the elities in our society are gradually eliminating whites. This essay isn't mine and I should get one of the fine gents at MajorityRights.com to edit/alter and add to it a bit to make it even more compelling. Oh, please respond with your great solution as to how whites can have their own living space.

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Something else that has to be added here, because it’s something that’s very much crystallized and become obvious for me, an ex-White liberal, helped along by other intelligent commenters here and on other sites: US media and cultural elites have been quite successfully pushing nothing less than the racial genocide of Whites in the US, with the same disease infecting Britain, Australia, Canada and other Anglophone countries that are susceptible to much of the same media.

These Jewish and idiotic Gentile cultural ideologues, they know precisely how to hit White society hard, and they hit us both through “hard” and “soft” genocide.

- They know that the physical traits of Whites are often recessive, and so encouraging miscegenation is an especially effective way to attack White identity and to remove Whites from future generations. Children of Black-White couples are phenotypically Black and identify with the Black community. Moreover, the Black male style of operation-- knocking up one White woman, dumping her, then moving on to more-- ensures that he takes out quite a few gullible White women all by himself.

Many of the Marxist cultural elites in the US are well aware of this, and so MTV and other big mass cultural vehicles heavily emphasize and encourage White women to exclusively date and have kids with Blacks. This is the “stylish” thing to do, and the supposed physical and sexual prowess of Blacks is played way up, compared to Whites, further brainwashing our young generation. Many White girls feel that the only way to be socially accepted is to have a Black child, and that’s become the “in” thing in US cities and suburbs. It’s much worse in Britain-- social acceptance there, in many ways is contingent on shunning fellow Whites and having a Black child.

- Combine this with “hard” genocide, aka the high and increasing levels of Black-on-White violent crime. Murders, rapes and burglaries against Whites by Blacks are so common that, since 1975-- the year the US withdrew in humiliation from Vietnam-- the number of Whites so killed in the US by Blacks has far exceeded the casualties of that war. Horrific examples like the massacre in Wichita Kansas by the Carr Brothers of 5 young White kids, the recent murders of 3 White kids in Seattle by a Black buddy from Myspace, the Colin Ferguson mass murders, the killing of Robin Mitchell, the murders of Keith Houts and Gwen Sneed, countless other examples-- http://www.newnation.org/NNN-Black-on-White.html—show that outright yet insidious anti-White warfare is having an impact as well.

The Iraq War should be included in this. It was quite obviously the project of a collection of very powerful, hard-line American Jews, and even though many American Jews also opposed it, quite clearly the Jews with the power and the positions-- i.e., the ones with the power to impact policy-- were fully in line with the plans to use patriotic, yet naive young American Whites to fight one of Israel’s main enemies, Iraq. The wounded soldiers in Iraq have been injured more grievously than in any other war, with brain injuries, paralysis and amputations, not to mention PTSD, that have put them out of commission. There are, meanwhile, almost no Jewish soldiers fighting in Iraq themselves. So, the Iraq War has effectively been a masterpiece of this wicked, anti-White strategy-- use the war to kill off the cream of the White middle class in the US and Britain, and use it to beat up on Israel’s Iraqi opponents as well. Tens of thousands of US Whites have been killed or horridly wounded in this war.

- An intermediate form of anti-White genocide comes about in the collection of US government policies that have turned US Whites into a minority here, while undercutting our earning power and ability to fund our own existence, let alone afford children. Mass immigration is encouraged to drive White wages down to poverty levels, displacing us out of jobs and crowding our towns and cities, which further discourages childbearing. The H1-B visa program is a part of this-- the H1B encourages the immigration of masses of bargain-basement East Indian tech workers to the US and in combination with outsourcing, basically makes it impossible to earn more than slave wages for even high-skill tech jobs. This program has to be destroyed, and any politicians who support it have to be viciously targeted for electoral defeat.

Meanwhile, affirmative action hits Whites very hard, involving yet another forced transfer of wealth from Whites to other races. Heavy traffic clogs our cities and reduces the amount of time we can spend with our children at home, thus further ruining our capacity to have healthy families. Meanwhile, environmental destruction, deforestation and pollution-- directly linked to mass immigration waves-- contribute to ever-growing White infertility in the US, Australia and Britain.

The system of marriage and divorce in the US, Canada, Australia and United Kingdom is heavily rigged against White men actually capable of doing a good job and providing for their families. Just a few decades ago, divorcees in a case when the marriage didn’t work out, would have enough cash given to the less productive wife to live on, while recognizing and rewarding the hard work, training, education and contributions of the most productive member (usually the husband). Now, even the laziest, most obviously gold-digging wife gets well more than half of her husband’s assets even if she didn’t do a thing to earn them.

Notice that, along these lines, US feminism was pitched explicitly at US White women, while basically ignoring Black, Latino and Jewish women. Both Gloria Steinem and Betty Friedan are Jewish, but they didn’t target their feminist message at fellow Jews-- rather, they posed as Whites and targeted their message at White women. The feminist icon isn’t even an independent career woman anymore-- rather, it’s a gold-digging wife who basically ruins her husband financially no matter what his contributions to a society, and thereby makes it almost impossible for him financially to start fress and have any more children, as was commonplace in earlier eras. Thus, feminism and the US divorce courts, by explicitly ignoring and even penalizing productive American men, are part and parcel of the system that dismantles the earning potential of White men in the US.

It’s even worse in Britain, as the spectacles of Heather Mills McCartney and other high-profile wives show. I was in Britain not too long ago, and I could hardly find a single bright, professional young White Briton who wanted to get married, let alone have children. Considering the brutal situation for other prominent White Britons at the hands of their gold-digging spouses, one can’t blame them.

Finally and probably at the top, in line with what others have written here-- US workers are so spat upon, and so exploited, that we have little power to change our conditions, and are forced to work 100 hours a week just to stay afloat. This ruins our physical and emotional health, makes it hard for us to get married and have kids and-- even if we do manage to have kids-- makes it that much tougher to actually impact the way our kids are raised.

This is why I, a former White liberal, have so angrily moved in a different direction. An old mentor or mine, a brilliant man who was like an uncle, worked as a computer network coordinator for a company that eventually started laying off its workers en masse-- much cheaper to sell out Americans to India-- and basically compelled him to work 100 hours per week, nonstop. His health was trashed, and soon, the stress and overwork were just about causing him to have heart attacks.

Despite his dedication, his wife petitioned for a divorce and took well over half of what her husband had tirelessly slaved away for, for decades. He didn’t even have much time to defend himself in Divorce Court-- his job would fire him, yet he felt forced to stay there, despite the declining wages.

Meanwhile, his first daughter became a lesbian and openly expressed her hatred for him, despite all he did for her growing up. His second daughter, meanwhile, cohabited with a Black boyfriend and wound up bearing his child-- before he up and left her to raise his Black child herself, alone. She was once beautiful enough to be a model, she’s now disgustingly obese and beaten down, without much connection to her father, raising a Black boy who reviles her and thinks she’s an idiot-- which, frankly, she probably is.

So, my old mentor have his all to this country, the United States of America, and what did he get in return? He was forced to work himself 100 hours a week, to the point of collapsing health, while his lazy wife-- busy watching Oprah far more than she actually paid attention to the kids-- left him and took over half of his hard-earned money and property. As though this weren’t bad enough, one of his daughters is lesbian and the other bore him a resentful Black grandson.

So IOW, American culture and society squeezed out as much hard labor as they could from my mentor, then basically wrecked his health, ruined him financially, even denied him the basic desire to have his own White grandchildren with the prevailing cultural mores, telling her that only a Black child would do.

This is nothing less than the subtle enslavement of the White population in the US, Britain, Canada and Australia, forced to work horrifically hard to build a future that our children won’t inherit-- forced to build a palace that our enemies will take control of, as we become minorities here. I ask-- why, oh why should we feel any dedication to the US or these other countries, when we can see exactly what their leaders-- chiefly Jewish and non-White-- are doing to us? They’re using as much of our labor as they can grab, before almost killing us off in any number of ways, with the culture and policies that they set. My mentor was cruelly taken advantage of-- he was hard-working and dedicated, yet naive, and he paid a horrible price for not realizing the underlying truth.

It’s funny, I work about 60 hours a week and am considered a “slacker,” preferring to spend time raising my son. My wife and I can’t afford any other kids, unfortunately, so my son is almost everything to me. My White colleagues generally don’t have kids, and my company has more or less told me that I’ll be getting laid off soon. When that happens, I see no point in staying here. A few European countries like people have been saying, Finland, Germany, Austria, north Italy, maybe even much of France and elsewhere in Scandinavia, are still White nations. We’ll be going there. Maybe this is a mass emigration in the making.

[Jim West]

Though most people don't know or care, Jim Jones actually used poisoned Flavor-Aid, rather than poisoned Kool-Aid, a less expensive instant drink brand. Just shows he was a crooked cheapskate right up to the very end.

*Kool-Aid threatened lawsuits against any news media using its brand name in its news releases shortly after the incident occured, but by then everybody was convinced it was poisoned Kool-Aid, and so the damage had been done.



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[Dr. Gutberlet]

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Oh noooooooooooooo!

[Fissile]

The Jew-Gentile intermarriage rate is proceeding to the point where Jews are going to be out-bred in the not-too-distant future. I wonder what Burrhus will think then?

That's true for "secular" jews. Around here there are large numbers of hasidim. The hasidim practice self segregation and breed like rats. It is not unusual to see 30 year old hasidic women with 6 or 7 children. Their numbers are literally exploding. The hasidic communities in New York state are starting to take over the surrounding communities, and new communities are being formed in New Jersey and Pennsylvania.

[Sudaev]

That's true for "secular" jews. Around here there are large numbers of hasidim. The hasidim practice self segregation and breed like rats. It is not unusual to see 30 year old hasidic women with 6 or 7 children. Their numbers are literally exploding. The hasidic communities in New York state are starting to take over the surrounding communities, and new communities are being formed in New Jersey and Pennsylvania.

When I typed that post I was indeed referring to the secular Jews and in the back of my mind wondered about the Hasidic types...that's scary though. Also, how can anybody get wood over one of those pigs?

[Fissile]

When I typed that post I was indeed referring to the secular Jews and in the back of my mind wondered about the Hasidic types...that's scary though. Also, how can anybody get wood over one of those pigs?

Hole in the sheet.

[Captain Marinesko]

Though most people don't know or care, Jim Jones actually used poisoned Flavor-Aid, rather than poisoned Kool-Aid, a less expensive instant drink brand. Just shows he was a crooked cheapskate right up to the very end.

*Kool-Aid threatened lawsuits against any news media using its brand name in its news releases shortly after the incident occured, but by then everybody was convinced it was poisoned Kool-Aid, and so the damage had been done.



http://members.tripod.com/raspberrykoolaid/7.jpg


For once in his life, Kendall is right about something.

[Alvo]

There's no such a thing as 'suicide of the white race'. Period.

[harjit]

There's no such a thing as 'suicide of the white race'. Period.
It's funny how conservatives and racists accuse liberals of having transformed the language to push their agenda.

As if they don't.

[Empress Cheesatine]

There's no such a thing as 'suicide of the white race'. Period.

You're certainly never going to understand the concept by spitting out Black Eyed Peas lyrics.

[007]

It's funny how conservatives and racists accuse liberals of having transformed the language to push their agenda.

As if they don't.

Your ignorance is showing, Harjit. Read about Cultural Marxism and the Frankfurt School. Hell, you ought to know just from personal experience that the PC crowd made the first move to try to change the language. Remember "Ms."

[Jay]

It’s funny, I work about 60 hours a week and am considered a “slacker,” preferring to spend time raising my son. My wife and I can’t afford any other kids, unfortunately, so my son is almost everything to me. .


Oh bullshit. Quit making excuses. Having a 2nd kid isn't that much more expensive on the increment. Make a slightly larger pot of chili or spaghetti when you eat.

Food has never been cheaper. Just how hte hell did Irishmen in 1504 have 6 kids? THey lived on a mere fraction of what you do, so quit blaming others for your decisions.

[Warka]

Oh bullshit. Quit making excuses. Having a 2nd kid isn't that much more expensive on the increment. Make a slightly larger pot of chili or spaghetti when you eat.

Yes, because the only additional expense is a little more food. The second child doesn't need anything else. :rolleyes:

Food has never been cheaper.

I don't know where you live but here in America the price of food, like everything else, continues to rise (http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=27730), not fall.

Just how hte hell did Irishmen in 1504 have 6 kids? THey lived on a mere fraction of what you do, so quit blaming others for your decisions.

It's called inflation (http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=26947).

[kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman]

You said "white nationalists" want to talk the white race out of suicide. They do, but they also want a separate white nation. They believe Jews, who they believe are "not white" are causing it.

The real truth is that you are correct, its very difficult to talk whites out of suicide. So many people have decided that the global economy should be promoted at the cost of all else. Another group of people actually like diversity (they are crazy). But they exist. I believe the ones who claim to enjoy it, and have such a positive vision of it, often don't practice what they preach, and don't REALLY involve themselves with diversity.

The fact is race realists know how that there is no overnight solution to this crisis.

[Hartmann von Aue]

The cost of living isn't causing white depopulation.

That's a lame excuse - there is truth to it in this sense - that in order for a family to have what is considered "enough" - women who would be mothers have careers - often in rather useless or parasitic fields.

[Keystone]

The cost of living isn't causing white depopulation.
The belief that children are accessories is causing it. They are "things to do" checkboxes, but only if they jibe with the parents' career goals. Children that might get in the way of a "lifestyle" are never conceived, or are aborted.
That's a lame excuse - there is truth to it in this sense - that in order for a family to have what is considered "enough" - women who would be mothers have careers - often in rather useless or parasitic fields.
This is true, but I'm not sure what "parasitic fields" are.

[Starr]

The cost of living isn't causing white depopulation.

That's a lame excuse - there is truth to it in this sense - that in order for a family to have what is considered "enough" - women who would be mothers have careers - often in rather useless or parasitic fields.


It defintely plays a factor, along with people not wanting to have too much responsibility in their life. For a lot of average white folks today, two careers are not a choice but a neccessity.

Another factor I think with whites as compared to some other races is that they plan ahead and in a materialistic society where everyone believes they must have all of the newest and best things, they will put off having kids until everything is perfect, which is an increasingly difficult standard to live up to when nothing is ever enough.

and then you have the breakup of the family and the fact that relationships mean not much of anything to a lot of people today.

there are all kinds of factors at work, here.

Career women and even feminism are really only one part of the picture.

[Hartmann von Aue]

Career women and even feminism are really only one part of the picture.

Feminism is the critical part.

[Keystone]

Another factor I think with whites as compared to some other races is that they plan ahead and in a materialistic society where everyone believes they must have all of the newest and best things, they will put off having kids until everything is perfect, which is an increasingly difficult standard to live up to when nothing is ever enough.

Yep, and God forbid that one of their kids doesn't go to college and becomes an electrician or a plumber.

[Hartmann von Aue]

You know - when you look at all the white nations of the world - the highest birthrate is in Argentina.

Now Argentina is also one of the poorer white nations of the world.

The Judeo-Masonic cancer is the problem - demographic decline began in France in the 18th century among the upper classes.

[Warka]

Yep, and God forbid that one of their kids doesn't go to college and becomes an electrician or a plumber.

Keystone, you pretty much need a college degree nowadays to get into skilled trades. The days of going to the local union hall with no experience and signing on as a trades apprentice are long over. And even if you're lucky and somehow do find out about an opportunity like that somehow, you're put on a waiting list because there's a couple hundred other guys trying for that same spot and they're going to take a woman or a mud before they give the job to a White guy. This ain't the '70s anymore. Some of you aren't looking at the reality of this situation at all.

I fought against going to college for nearly 2 decades now but finally had to cave and do it. The fact is, those kinds of jobs just aren't out there for the uneducated White guy anymore. Not when you have spics and other minorities willing to do the work for peanuts undercutting you. The system's broke, buddy.

[Keystone]

The Judeo-Masonic cancer is the problem - demographic decline began in France in the 18th century among the upper classes.
The problem in white America is that we don't want to do our own work anymore. Physical labor is looked on as failure. The trades are beginning to fill with immigrants. Guess why? Zack and Kayley must go to college! Anything else means failure.

We're getting what we deserve.

[Keystone]

Keystone, you pretty much need a college degree nowadays to get into skilled trades.
No, you do not.

[Warka]

No, you do not.

Nice empty one-liner. Care to expand on it? I'm going to be up for awhile and love talking this stuff. Let's go, old-timer.

[Hartmann von Aue]

The problem in white America is that we don't want to do our own work anymore. Physical labor is looked on as failure. The trades are beginning to fill with immigrants. Guess why? Zack and Kayley must go to college! Anything else means failure.

We're getting what we deserve.

The school system - by mixing boys and girls in high school - perverts the priorities of young people - keeping them from learning an occupation during the years of life when motivation and ambition are at their peak.

It also perverts relations between the sexes.

[Keystone]

Nice empty one-liner. Care to expand on it? I'm going to be up for awhile and love talking this stuff. Let's go, old-timer.
I have to work tomorrow...;)

I'll answer then.

[Warka]

I have to work tomorrow...;)

I'll answer then.

Please do. Don't take it the wrong way- I'm not trying to be confrontational but this is a subject I'm particularly interested in and look forward to discussing. Have a good night.

[Vissario]

The problem in white America is that we don't want to do our own work anymore. Physical labor is looked on as failure. The trades are beginning to fill with immigrants. Guess why? Zack and Kayley must go to college! Anything else means failure.

White people attempting to make a better life for themselves and their families by getting higher income jobs is bad?

[harjit]

The Judeo-Masonic cancer is the problem - demographic decline began in France in the 18th century among the upper classes.

Is the demographic crisis in Japan also because of teh jooz?

[harjit]

I fought against going to college for nearly 2 decades now but finally had to cave and do it. The fact is, those kinds of jobs just aren't out there for the uneducated White guy anymore. Not when you have spics and other minorities willing to do the work for peanuts undercutting you. The system's broke, buddy.

Prac, would it not be possible to leverage the trade you learned in the military in a civilian career?

[Ahknaton]

Is the demographic crisis in Japan also because of teh jooz?
Japan's demographic crisis is a result of its Westernization, so it is logical to suggest that whatever is the ultimate cause of it in Western countries (not necessarily "teh jooz") is also at least a contributing cause of it in Japan, indirectly.

In my opinion the problem with White demographics and non-White immigration in Western countries is not that non-Whites are evil or a menace per se (not in most cases anyway) but that Western society is basically a unsustainable demographic pyramid scheme, and bringing in immigrants to make up for shortfalls in population is just delaying the "correction" temporarily. For example, if the reasoning is that Whites get rich, have few kids, and don't want to do the shit jobs anymore, so immigrants get brought in to replace them, what happens a generation hence when the immigrants go through the same process. Who does their cleaning? More immigrants? What about when their countries become industrialized? Where do they get their immigrants from? If the Western lifestyle/economy is demographically unsustainable, it should be fixed, not plastered over by using immigrants to make up the shortfall. The longer we put it off, the more extreme will be our demographic collapse.

[Warka]

Prac, would it not be possible to leverage the trade you learned in the military in a civilian career?

Not unless you're aware of someone hiring guys who run around with M-16s and radios on their backs lol.

This kind of thing doesn't really translate into any kind of civilian career:

http://www.caltrap.org/3rd_MarineDivision/Marines/2005/photos/0512.jpg

[Hartmann von Aue]

Is the demographic crisis in Japan also because of teh jooz?

Perhaps you recall that the US occupied Japan.


About a third of the constitution's articles dealt with "human rights" which were written by the Civil Rights committee. One of the three members of the committee was an Austrian Jew, Beate Sirota. Her specialty included women's rights and economic equality. Sirota based her articles from those of the Soviet and Weimar Constitutions and from her own Jewish sense of social justice. The Civil Rights committee drafted 41 articles including social security, rights for the poor, abolition of discrimination against illegitimate children and "human rights" for non-Japanese. Many stridently leftist articles were stricken by Col. Kades who believed that they should appear in the civil code; were deleted from the Constitution not because they were overly socialist but that they should be made into laws. Some of the articles that are found in the final version of the constitution include:*3

9 = The renunciation of war and the prohibition of maintaining a military force*4
14, 24 = Equality without regard to race, sex, etc.*5
22, 27 = Right to residence and the right to work
23 = Right to "academic freedom"
25 = Right to "minimum standards" of living
28 = Right of workers to organize

Other Jews worked to shape Japan to reflect the ideals stated within the constitution.

Attached to GS was Hans H. Baerwald, born in Japan to German Jewish parents. The family left Japan for the U.S. following the outbreak of war in Europe. Baerwald returned to Japan following training as a language officer. Baerwald was responsible for purging the Japanese government of "undesirable personnel," including ultra-nationalist and members of secret and "terrorist" organizations.

His office was directed to eliminate not only "war criminals," former military officers and government officials who carried out Imperial policies in the various areas of the former Japanese empire but also any person who "played an active government part in Japan's act of aggression or who had expressed himself to be an active exponent of military nationalism." The purge was later expanded to root out "reactionaries" in the media and business communities. Those purged were barred from re-entering politics. Up to 260,000 people were removed from the post-war Japanese government and the political parties suffered as a consequence. The purge did not affect the Japan Communist Party. In fact, SCAP ordered communists and anarchists who were imprisoned during the war released from prison.

Alfred C. Oppler, a German Jew, left Germany prior to the invasion of Poland in 1939. Oppler headed the Courts and Law division, which was responsible for revamping the Japanese judicial system and civil law codes. Oppler was chosen to head Courts and Law since he was experienced in German law, after which pre-war Japanese law was modeled. Following his arrival in early 1946, he was assigned to the Governmental Powers Branch of GS and had a small role in the drafting of the new constitution. He helped to shape a legal system that would protect "human rights." To further ensure the protection of "human rights," Oppler also helped to establish the Japan Civil Liberties Union, an organization similar in function to the ACLU. (Oppler was an outspoken leftist, who later voiced his support for the Equal Rights Amendment, legalized abortion and abolition of the death penalty.)

Theodore Cohen, a Russian Jew, saw service in the OSS and was chief of the Labor Division. His goal was to "liberate" Japanese labor from the "savage repression" of Japanese authoritarianism. He was so successful in liberating the workers, that SCAP had to suspend freedom of association after several demonstrations were held, attended by thousands of people, which threatened public order. (Following the dismantling of SCAP, Cohen stayed in Japan and went into business with a Canadian company.)

Wolf I. Ladejinsky, a Ukrainian Jew, advised Roosevelt, then MacArthur on land reform. Supposedly anti-communist, Ladejinski broke control of the large land owners, allowing farmers to own their plots. (Ladejinsky later was accused of being a communist by Eisenhower's Secretary of Agriculture and served as an advisor to the Diem regime in South Vietnam. He also served in various capacities in the Ford Foundation and the World Bank.) Because of the post-war land reforms, the farmers have been strong supporters of the government at the time, which was led by conservatives. The conservatives later formed the Liberal Democratic Party, which, backed by the farmers, have resisted American corporate demands for greater access to Japanese markets.

Following the Second World War, Jews worked within the Occupation apparatus to impose a leftist democracy in Japan. The re-educated Japanese have rejected their past and their culture and denied their race. With the removal of the Emperor as the central figure in Japanese life, Japan has turned into an individualistic consumer-oriented society. Marriages are declining since women are now "liberated," the consequence being that the birth rate is now below the rate of replacement. The Japanese that do get married are increasingly involving a non-Japanese mate. To offset a projected decline in the population in the next 10-20 years, the Japanese have support greater importation of Third World immigrants.


http://www.jiyuu-shikan.org/e/jewish.html

I didn't have to look up the word Jew to find this - just the terms japan douglas macarthur abortion.

Abortion in Japan was legalized during this occupation period:

Unlike many countries of the world where women had to fight long and fierce battles for their right to safe and legal abortions, the women of Japan were given access to legal abortions as early as 1948, three years after Japan's defeat in the World War II, through the enactment of the Eugenic Protection Law. It was not a fruit of any feminist movement but "a gift from above" as a part of the post-war national population policy. . . .
. . .
Although in principle induced abortions are banned in the Penal Code, the Eugenic Protection Law declared that abortions could be obtained legitimately for eugenic or health reasons, rape, or leprosy of the pregnant woman or her spouse. The law was revised in the following year so as to sanction abortions for "economic" reasons, which, in fact, meant opening the door to abortion on demand. Under the new law, the number of induced abortions skyrocketed to a peak of 1,170,143 cases in 1955, and the overall birthrate dropped in concordance with it from 34.3 per thousand in 1947 to 28.1 in 1950 and 19.4 in 1955.


link (http://www.dawncenter.or.jp/english/publication/edawn/9911/politics.html)

The US was heavily infiltrated by Soviet spies under FDR. During WWII the situation was so bad that Morgenthau had direct access to Roosevelt, intervened in all sorts of affairs outside the purview of the Treasury and in turn delegated much of his authority to the Jewish Communist spy Harry Dexter White.

List of Soviet Spies in the US (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Soviet_agents_in_the_United_States)

http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/7630/frankcoegroupkm0.jpg
CCP Chairman Mao Zedong with Israel Epstein (first left), Anna Louise Strong (third left), Frank Coe (second right), and Solomon Adler (first right).

http://www.conservapedia.com/Solomon_Adler

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/9134/fbichartlguz5.th.png (http://img366.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fbichartlguz5.png)
Here's a chart of the agents named by the defector Elizabeth Bentley.

[Warka]

I have to work tomorrow...;)

I'll answer then.

C'mon, Key, don't leave me hangin' here. :)

[Jay]

You know - when you look at all the white nations of the world - the highest birthrate is in Argentina.

Now Argentina is also one of the poorer white nations of the world.

The Judeo-Masonic cancer is the problem - demographic decline began in France in the 18th century among the upper classes.



No - it's the guy's wife, who tells him constantly that "WE can't afffffford it!" and etc etc.

He buys into that nonsense. Fact is, she didn't really like carrying the first baby and didn't like childbirth. So she doens't want to do it again.

Life is very, very cheap now. never been cheaper. If you want to live in a 350K home with an oppressive mortgage and an SUV, then you can. Just don't whine you're "poor" for another mouth. Blacks & hispanics breed like rabbits......htey're not complaining about money!

[Starr]

No - it's the guy's wife, who tells him constantly that "WE can't afffffford it!" and etc etc.

It all works out pretty good for both of them. She doesn't have to worry about getting fat, giving up her "fun" and being strapped with a screaming kid, and he doesn't have to worry about being tied down with a family and one woman. Lots of immaturity, irresponsibility and selfishness going on with people today. "living for the moment" and "it is all about me" attitudes are also a huge part of the problem for males and females.

[Warka]

Well, it doesn't look like Keystone's going to show up tonight. :(

Any of you other brainiacs want to explain to me how an uneducated White guy without any financial help from a working wife, or even with her help, is supposed to be able to lock-in a secure high-paying job that will enable him to put a dozen or so kids through life in this day and age? I see a lot of bellyaching and fantasy talk but nothing approaching realistic so far...

[harjit]

Well, it doesn't look like Keystone's going to show up tonight. :(

Any of you other brainiacs want to explain to me how an uneducated White guy without any financial help from a working wife, or even with her help, is supposed to be able to lock-in a secure high-paying job that will enable him to put a dozen or so kids through life in this day and age? I see a lot of bellyaching and fantasy talk but nothing approaching realistic so far...
Have you considered sales?

They would probably give you training. The tough part would be to find a company that seems trustworthy and has good products that you wouldn't mind selling, and avoid flaky companies.

Another idea: Do volunteer work of some form that you'd enjoy (not just to be a do-gooder) and try to make some connections there... it may lead to broader networks and jobs, or at least job ideas. You'll get more valuable/relevant advice from those in your locality than people scattered around the world here at the Phora.

[Warka]

Have you considered sales?

They would probably give you training. The tough part would be to find a company that seems trustworthy and has good products that you wouldn't mind selling, and avoid flaky companies.

Another idea: Do volunteer work of some form that you'd enjoy (not just to be a do-gooder) and try to make some connections there... it may lead to broader networks and jobs, or at least job ideas. You'll get more valuable/relevant advice from those in your locality than people scattered around the world here at the Phora.

Harjit, I'm not in need of work or career advice. Quit insulting my intelligence with your false concern and unemployment office brochure ideas. I'm an experienced student pursuing an engineering degree in a field and area with huge demand for such graduates. Spare me the fruity talk of sales and volunteer work. :rolleyes:

[Hartmann von Aue]

Any of you other brainiacs want to explain to me how an uneducated White guy without any financial help from a working wife, or even with her help, is supposed to be able to lock-in a secure high-paying job that will enable him to put a dozen or so kids through life in this day and age? I see a lot of bellyaching and fantasy talk but nothing approaching realistic so far...

You probably wouldn't be able to get a wife who would have that many kids period - let alone a wife who would bear those children without a high income male supporting her.

However - I can't buy the notion that westerners can't "afford" more kids.

There are white nations where the demographic patterns have only shifted recently.

[Warka]

You probably wouldn't be able to get a wife who would have that many kids period - let alone a wife who would bear those children without a high income male supporting her.

However - I can't buy the notion that westerners can't "afford" more kids.

There are white nations where the demographic patterns have only shifted recently.

I argue against this fantasy idea some are proposing:

Man, leader of the house, skips college yet somehow manages to land well-paying secure job allowing wife to stay home and breed replacement-level or better amount of children. In America. Today.

I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me how this is wide-scale realistically possible.

[Hartmann von Aue]

Well-paying is out. Depending which part of the country you live in you could find a decent place to live. I have a friend who is not college-educated who recently married and bought a decent house - there are some blacks in the neighborhood but it's a nice neighborhood overall - a big back yard.

He spent a large fraction of his take-home pay on guns and all sorts of "toys" until he was married.

No sign of any kids on the way yet - he's been married nearly a year.

He does have a new golden retriever though.

Argentina:

per capita GDP $15,200 (2006 est.)

Fertility per woman:

2007 2.13
2006 2.16
2005 2.19
2004 2.24
2003 2.28
2002 2.41
2001 2.44
2000 2.47

white (mostly Spanish and Italian) 97%, mestizo (mixed white and Amerindian ancestry), Amerindian, or other non-white groups 3%

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ar.html

In America it comes down to feminism and attitudes about consumption - inability to control spending habits - and problems maintaining social standing. If you're working class in the city, where are the white neighborhoods?

Who wants to have a bunch of kids in an apartment or in a minority majority neighborhood and send them to a school like that?

[Keystone]

Nice empty one-liner. Care to expand on it? I'm going to be up for awhile and love talking this stuff. Let's go, old-timer.
You can earn a decent living without a bachelors degree.

Electricians, plumbers, boiler techs/stationary engineers, ironworkers, welders, mechanics of all stripes and dozens more trades can be successful careers through technical school training or apprenticeship programs. No, you will probably not make $100K a year. If you start your own business, maybe.
Many white folks think they or their children aren't "successful" if their job gets their fingernails dirty or can't net them a 4000 square foot house. Labor is looked down upon.

Good luck bringing back a white nation with that mentality.

[Warka]

You can earn a decent living without a bachelors degree.

Electricians, plumbers, boiler techs/stationary engineers, ironworkers, welders, mechanics of all stripes and dozens more trades can be successful careers through technical school training or apprenticeship programs. No, you will probably not make $100K a year. If you start your own business, maybe.
Many white folks think they or their children aren't "successful" if their job gets their fingernails dirty or can't net them a 4000 square foot house. Labor is looked down upon.

Good luck bringing back a white nation with that mentality.

Keystone, we're in agreement more than disagreement. I'll address this more later today but for now, if you'd like, you can read these posts where I discuss the differences between trades jobs of the past and those of today:

http://www.thephora.net/forum/showpost.php?p=380360&postcount=27

http://www.thephora.net/forum/showpost.php?p=382063&postcount=37

[Keystone]

Keystone, we're in agreement more than disagreement. I'll address this more later today but for now, if you'd like, you can read these posts where I discuss the differences between trades jobs of the past and those of today:

http://www.thephora.net/forum/showpost.php?p=380360&postcount=27

http://www.thephora.net/forum/showpost.php?p=382063&postcount=37
Nice posts. We are basically in agreement. Whatever manufacturing/industry that is left in the US doesn't much want to do in-house training anymore. When unions were strong, you could get the training, which benefitted management and labor. The difference now is Bottom Line.

[MrAngry]

Nice posts. We are basically in agreement. Whatever manufacturing/industry that is left in the US doesn't much want to do in-house training anymore. When unions were strong, you could get the training, which benefitted management and labor. The difference now is Bottom Line.


In the UK much the same is happening, low skilled Manufacturing is being outsourced to India and China, Manufacturing isn't seen as a viable and sustainable career anymore and kids these days are drawn into sales and marketing.


The old soakaways for unskilled labour, such as mining, ship building, steel etc, have been either closed or down scaled to a significant degree. Therefore the lower skilled population cannot earn a sustainable livable wage. All the industries that drew in the immigrant labour have pretty much gone, which has led to race issues in areas where immigrant, 2nd and 3rd generation, unemployment is high.

Now mass immigration is drawing in cheap labour for jobs in the service and construction industries, the types of jobs that young British kids do not want, or are unwilling to do. Until the welfare system is reviewed and there is an incentive to encourage these kids to work, more Brits will claim benefits and more immigrants will pour in.

[Jay]

It all works out pretty good for both of them. She doesn't have to worry about getting fat, giving up her "fun" and being strapped with a screaming kid, and he doesn't have to worry about being tied down with a family and one woman. Lots of immaturity, irresponsibility and selfishness going on with people today. "living for the moment" and "it is all about me" attitudes are also a huge part of the problem for males and females.


I know - it's such a baseless, pathetic excuse. "But we can't afford more kids!" scream the bratty white women.

The man buys into it b/c he frankly, doesnt want to listen to her bitching anymore. And hence: 1 kid families. If they don't have any money, she shouldn't be coming in the house with 2 bags from Ann Taylor Loft. But you KNOW she does.

[Captain Marinesko]

Yeah, it's those DAMN WHITE WOMEN!!! The battle cry of the seldom-if-ever laid male White Nationalist.