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Berianidze
12-12-2005, 08:27 PM
Belarus’ Lukashenko Says U.S. Was Behind Soviet Union’s Collapse

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Belarus President Alexander Lukashenko said on Wednesday that the U.S. president George Bush was behind the “sponsored” collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991.

Speaking to Russian journalists in the Belarus capital of Minsk, Lukashenko called the collapse of the Soviet Union a tragic mistake, the RIA-Novosti agency reported.

He added there had been no reasons for the collapse. If it happened by itself, “it would happen later and on natural reasons,” the Belarus leader said. “Unfortunately, in politics such things do not happen without a reason,” Lukashenko said. “All this was not for free, large sums had been paid for this.”

The Belarus leader said that Russian hostage rescue task force Alpha, should have gathered the leaders of the former Soviet republics who had agreed to break up the Soviet Union behind barbed wire “and let them then call Bush Sr. and report him on what they were signing.”

On December 8, 1991, Russian president Boris Yeltsin, Ukrainian president Leonid Kravchuk, and Chair of the Supreme Soviet of Belarus Stanislav Shushkevich concluded the Belovezh agreement abolishing the Soviet Union and establishing the Commonwealth of Independent States, or the CIS.

Kodos
12-12-2005, 08:30 PM
Belarus’ Lukashenko Says U.S. Was Behind Soviet Union’s Collapse


Um I don't think this is something we've tried to deny... and in fact the usual criticism is we took too much credit for something that self destructed on its own.

Berianidze
12-12-2005, 08:51 PM
Um I don't think this is something we've tried to deny... and in fact the usual criticism is we took too much credit for something that self destructed on its own.

Yes, but hearing it from Lukashenko makes me feel much better inside.

Ixtab
12-12-2005, 08:59 PM
The collapse of the USSR was caused by an accumulation of problems resulting from certain capitalistic reforms in the 1960s. Before this time, the Soviet economy was extremely efficient.

Billy Score
12-13-2005, 03:19 AM
The collapse of the USSR was caused by an accumulation of problems resulting from certain capitalistic reforms in the 1960s. Before this time, the Soviet economy was extremely efficient.
while this is true, there is no doubt that the US had a large part to do with the USSR's demise. the cost of the arms race etc.

Jimbo Gomez
12-13-2005, 10:52 AM
Eh. Good riddance. The old Bush wasn't so bad at all it seems.

Count Eustace II
12-13-2005, 02:46 PM
The United States has been behind the collapses of many a nation, some violent, some not so much. So what's new? The US is King of the New World Empire.

daisy
12-14-2005, 04:25 AM
they wiped u.s. citizens out pretty good before they ran over there to build their new world empire. they took the money and ran!

Ixtab
12-14-2005, 07:43 PM
while this is true, there is no doubt that the US had a large part to do with the USSR's demise. the cost of the arms race etc.That is still the fault of capitalist-USSR. The country would have been able to keep up with the arms race if socialist relations of production were not reversed in the 1960s and 1970s.

Berianidze
12-14-2005, 08:25 PM
That is still the fault of capitalist-USSR. The country would have been able to keep up with the arms race if socialist relations of production were not reversed in the 1960s and 1970s.

Niether Mazdak nor myself were denying this, in fact, I highly emphasize the betrayal and reversal of socialism on behalf of Khruschev and the others who implemented liberalism as a more significant role in the deterioration of the USSR than U.S. involvement, but nonetheless the U.S. has some blame by also spreading their ludicrous ideology of bourgeois liberalism and emphasizing "human rights" rubbish throughout the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe.

FranzJoseph
12-16-2005, 03:52 AM
The United States has been behind the collapses of many a nation, some violent, some not so much...

Yes...

The US is King of the New World Empire.

...No.

The US is the "great work" of Freemasonry bringing about the Global Rule of European Bankers. The kings remain hidden and America is the Visible Hand.

After globalism reaches the point of no return, the Great Work completed, the US will be destroyed by inundation of third world hordes, multiple plagues and air-water-ground borne poisons. The instruments of America's destruction are even now being put in place because the Great Work is nearly completed.

Thanks for your attention! I am retiring in April, and in my Golden Years I want to displace David Icke as King of Conspiracy Rants. How'd I do? Brickbats are OK, got six months to slick up my act. :D