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Ambrosio Spinola
12-14-2005, 08:28 AM
This man wont last long...

http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/story.asp?j=165872582&p=y65873z88

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41119000/jpg/_41119832_ahmadinejad_ap203body.jpg

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said today the Holocaust is a “myth” that Europeans have used to create a Jewish state in the heart of the Islamic world.

Speaking to thousands of people in the south-eastern city of Zahedan, Ahmadinejad said: “Today, they have created a myth in the name of Holocaust and consider it to be above God, religion and the prophets.”

Ahmadinejad said it was the Europeans who committed crimes against the Jews and they, the United States or Canada, should give part of their land to the Jews to establish a state.

Ahmadinejad provoked an international outcry in October when he called Israel a “disgraceful blot” that should be “wiped off the map.”

Last week, he suggested that Israel should be transferred to Europe, drawing further condemnation.

“If you (Europeans) committed this big crime, then why should the oppressed Palestinian nation pay the price?” Ahmadinejad asked rhetorically today.

“You (Europeans) have to pay the compensation yourself.

“This is our proposal: give a part of your own land in Europe, the United States, Canada or Alaska to them (Jews) so that the Jews can establish their country,” he said.

Ahmadinejad said the West had harmed Muslims, invaded their countries and plundered their wealth.

Atlas
12-14-2005, 08:32 AM
I like this man a bit more every time he talk. I must agree with your comment though, he won't last long.

Starr
12-14-2005, 08:35 AM
they have created a myth in the name of Holocaust and consider it to be above God, religion and the prophets.”

The holy holocaust. LOL.

Ambrosio Spinola
12-14-2005, 11:25 AM
Germany quick to step in for their masters...

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/12/14/iran.israel.germany.ap/

BERLIN, Germany (AP) -- Germany's foreign minister described as "shocking and unacceptable" Wednesday the Iranian president's description of the Holocaust as a "myth," warning that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's comments weighed on relations and talks over Iran's nuclear program.

Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier said his government had summoned the charge d'affaires at the Iranian Embassy and made "unmistakably clear" its displeasure.

"I cannot hide the fact that this weighs on bilateral relations and on the chances for the negotiation process, the so-called nuclear dossier," he told reporters.

Steinmeier said Berlin is hoping for "a clear signal of the strongest disapproval" from this week's European Union summit.

Ahmadinejad provoked an international outcry in October when he called for Israel to be "wiped off the map."

He then expressed doubt about the Nazi destruction of European Jewry during the World War II, and went further Wednesday -- saying that the Holocaust is a "myth" that Europeans have used to create a Jewish state in the heart of the Islamic world.

"The new remarks by the Iranian president, in which not only Israel's right to exist is denied but also ... the Holocaust are indeed shocking and unacceptable," Steinmeier said.

Germany, along with France and Britain, has been leading diplomatic efforts to allay fears over Iran's nuclear intentions. Later this month, Iran is due to resume negotiations the issue with envoys from the three countries.

Count Eustace II
12-14-2005, 12:56 PM
Mr Ahmedinejad, sir, psssst, little secret: Telling the truth is a revolutionary act. God's Pets don't like their myths to be questioned. Get yourselves in Iran ready for Democracy via 10,000 sorties of 500 ton bombs.

Banat
12-14-2005, 01:47 PM
I remember I read a book several years ago, composed of various essays, articles and speeches of Saddam Husein and Tarik Aziz, where the same matter was discussed in an absolutely identical way: proposing that Jews should be given a part of Germany or North America for their state, and calling holocaust a myth misused in the dirtiest political purposes. So, this is not a new thing for me - it seems that it is a common opinion in Moslem world.

BTW, it is interesting how nobody will actually respond to any of Ahmadinejad's statements and accusations, but write in shock and disbelief how horrible his statements are and how horrible is the fact that such person exists instead, and repeat that endlessly. :rolleyes:

Starr
12-15-2005, 05:27 AM
BTW, it is interesting how nobody will actually respond to any of Ahmadinejad's statements and accusations, but write in shock and disbelief how horrible his statements are and how horrible is the fact that such person exists instead, and repeat that endlessly

That is all they can and know how to do. They certainly can't get any real "discussion" going about what he has said. They can't really control what he says at this point, so what better way to silence him, in the minds of the sheeple anyway, then to talk about all the different ways in which he is "evil" And now he has denied the holocaust, oy vey, the ultimate evil!:nono: And not only that, but he is playing upon the neverending guilt that these fools feel and throwing it back in their face::222: That is why they are so stressed out about the words of this horrible evil man.

“If you (Europeans) committed this big crime, then why should the oppressed Palestinian nation pay the price?” Ahmadinejad asked rhetorically today.

“You (Europeans) have to pay the compensation yourself

"I cannot hide the fact that this weighs on bilateral relations and on the chances for the negotiation process, the so-called nuclear dossier," he told reporters.

Translation:Make such comments about the holocaust and bring yourself one step closer to being attacked. Could it get any more obvious who is in control?

Gaucho
12-15-2005, 06:30 AM
That is all they can and know how to do. They certainly can't get any real "discussion" going about what he has said.

Of course not, any remote doubt that 6 million Jews were gassed and turned into Dove bars would make you a "HolocaustTM Denier."

Ixtab
12-15-2005, 06:42 AM
The response to Ahmadinejad's statements is further proof, as if any more were needed, that Political Correctnesss strips people of the mental faculties requisite for thoughtful discourse and discussion. I am becoming more and more convinced that the Jews have rendered the Western mind to a sheep-like docility that is without parallel in the history of mankind.

Starr
12-26-2005, 12:10 AM
www.adl.org

New York, NY, December 22, 2005 … The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) has called on European leaders to take decisive action to isolate the Iranian regime following a series of incendiary speeches by Iran's president where he denied the Holocaust and called for the destruction of the State of Israel.

In letters sent to foreign ministers of the 25 nations of the European Union, the League commended European leaders for their strong denunciations of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's extreme rhetoric. But ADL urged the governments to go farther with "strong steps" that would isolate the Iranian regime by severing bilateral ties, freezing its assets and banning its leaders from entering E.U. member states.

"President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's outrageous statement that the Holocaust of six million Jews was a 'myth,' compounded by Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons, makes it absolutely clear that Iran represents a grave threat not just to our(Israel's) security, but to our(Kikish) values," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director.

An ADL advertisement in the International Herald Tribune scheduled to run December 23 calls on European leaders to "Stand Up to Iran." The ad says, "Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is the public face of a regime which threatens us all," and urges governments of the European Union, "to follow up their condemnation of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad with decisive action: Ban him from entering your countries; Isolate the regime he represents; Stand up to Iran's message of hate."

The League's letter to E.U. foreign ministers also urged a review of Iran's participation in international organizations concerned with diplomacy, trade, culture and sport, "with a view to suspending or barring Iranian membership."

Outrageous, shocking, hate! Can these jews make it through a 24 hour period without using those words at least 50 times?:nono:

raven
12-26-2005, 12:17 AM
The ADL sure are an annoying bunch. Israel has a nuclear arsenal that Iran can only dream of. What are they shitting their pants for?

Starr
12-26-2005, 12:26 AM
How dare he speak words that cast doubt upon their religion. Heretic!

FranzJoseph
12-26-2005, 04:21 AM
This man wont last long...

Right, Abe Foxman already sent him this email:

Heaven brings forth innumerable things to help man.
Man has nothing with which to recompense Heaven.
Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill. Kill
Your friend, Abe. :D .

il ragno
12-26-2005, 04:42 AM
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (whew....what a freakin' mouthful - think I'll call him "Butchie" for short) needs to get with the program.

Complete acceptance of Holodogma (and unquestioning adoption of preprogrammed responses related to same) is perhaps the ultimate Western modern convenience: an instant substitute for morality.

Swallow the pill, Butchie - and shriek loud and long about the Worst Horror Ever Perpetrated By Anybody In the History of Everything - and you can use chemical weaponry on all of your citizens you deem fit for termination. And unlike when Saddam did it, we'll put it in 'context', and understand.

I'm just kidding. You're already on record denying the Holocaust, thus you can bend over backwards apologizing and begging forgiveness until the Kurds come home to no avail. You're still a dead man.

Ambrosio Spinola
12-26-2005, 05:18 AM
Hey...who we have here...attracted by the smell of the fresh back up? :D

Hey..seriously, good to see you around Ragno. We still expect some hacker artillery barrages before he will give up out of boredoom but at least we guarantee a 24 hour (and now studying in getting them even faster) hard copy of your valuable typing time.

il ragno
12-26-2005, 05:29 AM
I've said this already but....Best. Avatar. Ever.