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Dragonair
04-04-2007, 05:45 PM
Well, I will ask this:
1-Where can you find (by meanings of geography) alpines? Meds? Nordics? Is northen France nordic? Is Austria/Swizerland/Bavaria alpine?
2-What are the rates of blonds among alpines? Out of 100 "pure" alpines, how many will have light blond hair (same question for other sub-races)?
3-What types of sub-races are there? What is the domminant sub-race in Ireland?
Dr. Gutberlet
04-04-2007, 05:48 PM
You will find me in Luleå.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b26/jj_bjornsson/untitled-2.jpg
Ravenheart
04-04-2007, 07:33 PM
1-Where can you find (by meanings of geography) alpines? Meds? Nordics?
Central, Southern and Northern Europe, respectively. This is an oversimplification though; reality is more diffuse.
Is northen France nordic?
Partially, not predominantly. Also Alpinoid and western variants of the Mediterranoid type.
Is Austria/Swizerland/Bavaria alpine?
Significantly, not exclusively. Also Nordoid and Dinaroid, for example.
2-What are the rates of blonds among alpines? Out of 100 "pure" alpines, how many will have light blond hair (same question for other sub-races)?
Mediterranoids typically have dark hair, Nordoids typically light hair. Alpinoids typically have brown hair. There are plenty of exceptions.
3-What types of sub-races are there?
The earliest systems only distinguished between Nordids, Mediterranids and Alpinids. Different authors use different classification schemes, though. The Faelid type is subsumed under Nordid by some, for example, and the Mediterranoid type also includes a great variety of types in some systems. A selection of types; Nordids, Faelids, Mediterranids, Alpinids, Dinarids, East Baltids, Pontids, Atlantids, Iberids, etc.
I question the extent to which all these types can be properly classified as 'races', though. In any case, you should check The Society for Nordish Physical Anthropology (http://www.nordish.com/). Lots of information on the subject. The website is somewhat biased in favour of Nordid people, though, and the classifications of the SNPA itself are disputed; nevertheless, it also contains primary literature of the field, such as Coon's work.
Dragonair
04-04-2007, 08:11 PM
Well, thank you, but I need to ask some more questions:
1-Is Germany more northen European or central?
2-What about Russia? Is Russia more nordic or alpine? Is Russia a northen European nation?
3-Where can a person find the most "aryan" people? Finland? Sweden? Is there any place that real blonds are more than 50% of the adults?
Dragonair
04-04-2007, 08:51 PM
Used to be northern, but probably is more central now.
Russians used to be called "Continental Nordic", but they were later replaced by Alpines.
Iceland for both questions.
What do you mean "used to"? Were they goy mixed with the time?
Isra'il Yahya
04-04-2007, 09:00 PM
Well, I will ask this:
1-Where can you find (by meanings of geography) alpines? Meds? Nordics? Is northen France nordic? Is Austria/Swizerland/Bavaria alpine?
Alpines are most concentrated in Central Europe but can be found throughout the Med basin as well with the Meds. Nordics are common in Northern Europe, in particular, the Scandinavian Shield, Poland, Northern Germany, Russia, Finland, and some of the Baltic countries. There are also some remnants in many other areas for they travelled long distances like the alpines.
2-What are the rates of blonds among alpines? Out of 100 "pure" alpines, how many will have light blond hair (same question for other sub-races)?
That factor depends on the area.
3-What types of sub-races are there? What is the domminant sub-race in Ireland?
Ireland has a number of types, but Upper Paleolithic types are most common.
1-Is Germany more northen European or central?
Central European racially.
2-What about Russia? Is Russia more nordic or alpine? Is Russia a northern European nation?
Russia is a mixture of Nordic, Alpine, and Lappoid types. There is a history of mixture between the three. East-Baltids are common in Russia.
3-Where can a person find the most "aryan" people? Finland? Sweden? Is there any place that real blonds are more than 50% of the adults?
The isolated regions of Pakistan, Northern India, Afghanistan, and other regions are where you will find the famous Aryans of antiquity. As for where the Aryans originated, check the Baltic lands. Finns are not Aryans but gave the Aryans their blondness as well as influenced the Sanskrit language. The Aryans that invaded India have deep connections with the Scythians, Huns, Balts, and other peoples. It is possible that some affiliated tribes of the Ancient Aryans were not 100% Caucasoid.
The Scythians were known as the Saka and the Huns were the Huna. Both were reputed to have settled in India. A very famous person was born in India of Scythian lineage. He's called Shakyamuni among other titles. :)
Dr. Gutberlet
04-04-2007, 09:37 PM
Classify this Björnsson:
http://www.heimir.is/heimir-scan/Jon_Bjornsson.jpg
He was from iceland. I like researching those with my surname.
Dragonair
04-05-2007, 01:01 PM
Alpines are most concentrated in Central Europe but can be found throughout the Med basin as well with the Meds. Nordics are common in Northern Europe, in particular, the Scandinavian Shield, Poland, Northern Germany, Russia, Finland, and some of the Baltic countries. There are also some remnants in many other areas for they travelled long distances like the alpines.
Poland? I thought it's mainly alpine...
And what about Ukraine and Belarus?
That factor depends on the area.
Let's suppose Swizerland or Austria.
Russia is a mixture of Nordic, Alpine, and Lappoid types. There is a history of mixture between the three. East-Baltids are common in Russia.
East baltid is a nordic variation, right?
Ravenheart
04-05-2007, 02:25 PM
Poland? I thought it's mainly alpine...
Baltisation is quite common as well, but there are still quite a few Nordoids, especially in the northern regions.
East baltid is a nordic variation, right?
Not in my view; the type just happens to occur in northern Europe, but that doesn't make it a subset of the Nordid type. It's metrically quite distinct, despite similarities in pigmentation and some in geography.
Dragonair
04-08-2007, 10:43 AM
I'm still suprised that Iceland is the "blondiest" nation, I would expect quite a lot of redhead over there because they are mixed with celts.
Dr. Gutberlet
04-08-2007, 10:25 PM
wiki says baltic states have most blondes. I am rather bored of them.
I'm still suprised that Iceland is the "blondiest" nation, I would expect quite a lot of redhead over there because they are mixed with celts.
"Celts" are not typically redheaded. You are thinking of the UP Brunn sub-race, Ireland having the last remaining Brunn population in the world. They predate the Celts.
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