What do whites get out of diversity?

[The Retard]

Same thing with white privilege. Why would whites want to give up their privilege? Normally people don't try to put themselves at a disadvantage. For example, if I was going to run a race, I wouldn't eat 4 bowls of ice cream the night before to make things even. That would be stupid. The risk are even greater in a real life scenario. I put my future at risk. I put the future of my children at risk. I put them at a disadvantage when I should be giving them a better advantage. So I fail to see how diversifying will help me or my children. Life is not fair. Life is about survival and doing what is best for you and your family. All I see is minorities helping themselves and their family and whites taking a step backwards.

[Warka]

What do whites get out of diversity?

Headaches.

In all seriousness, it's long been established that diversity does not benefit Whites or any other race at all. The fact that some still clamor for the idea speaks volumes about their lack of intelligence.

[leondegrance]

It's a zero-sum game. In a multicultural society, whites lose while muds gain. It's that simple.

[shanemac]

We get to eat different kinds of food.

So that makes up for ethnic gang crime, a feeling of being a foreigner in large areas of our own homelands, and loss of our own tradition and culture.

[Omniel]

If it wasn't for diversity then who would do the jobs that white people refuse to do? Who? Nobody.

Society would crumble before your very eyes, and you would have to purchase the ingredients for a curry and cook it yourself instead of ordering one over the phone or going to a restaurant. It's just too horrible to contemplate.

[shanemac]

If it wasn't for diversity then who would do the jobs that white people refuse to do? Who? Nobody.

Society would crumble before your very eyes, and you would have to purchase the ingredients for a curry and cook it yourself instead of ordering one over the phone or going to a restaurant. It's just too horrible to contemplate.

Are you being serious here?

[Omniel]

Are you being serious here?
No. I'm being sarcastic.

[Count Sudoku]

Headaches.

In all seriousness, it's long been established that diversity does not benefit Whites or any other race at all. The fact that some still clamor for the idea speaks volumes about their lack of intelligence.

Not that I'm an anti, but you're wrong! Blacks gain plenty living in white societies. Whites of course are worse off.

[shanemac]

No. I'm being sarcastic.

You know, a lot of lefties use those kinds of arguments seriously, as if eating different kinds of shit was all that mattered... so it was difficult to tell if you were being sarcastic or not.

[il ragno]

What do whites get out of diversity?

You mean besides the tingly thrill you get when you're truly enlightened? Well, how about the warm, slathered-with-butter feeling that comes from knowing that, dammit, you're just plain better than all those godawful white racist fools, blinded by their hate and stupidity, who selfishly cling to the mean-spirited old ways and ruin Real Life for the rest of us.

[Commander]

I would say some blacks have gotten things from this. The ones that want to work, & live peaceful. The vast majority of blacks, the "ghetto niggas" I think are actually worse off than they were in the 50's & 60's.

The only people who benefit from this are the Jews. Whitey was doing fine up till the shit hit the fan in 1964 / 1965.

[Warka]

Not that I'm an anti, but you're wrong! Blacks gain plenty living in white societies. Whites of course are worse off.

That may appear to be the case but when looking at blacks as a race, it certainly doesn't really benefit them to be coddled, given handouts or otherwise "live off the White man". It keeps them subservient and dependent. Black nationalists claim to understand this, hence their calls for separatism.

[Count Sudoku]

That may appear to be the case but when looking at blacks as a race, it certainly doesn't really benefit them to be coddled, given handouts or otherwise "live off the White man". It keeps them subservient and dependent. Black nationalists claim to understand this, hence their calls for separatism.

Seeing how blacks live in Africa, Haiti and pretty much anywhere else, I beg to differ.

[Warka]

Seeing how blacks live in Africa, Haiti and pretty much anywhere else, I beg to differ.

It could be argued that those blacks also "live off the White man" to a degree. For instance, White nations send billions of dollars in aid to Africa.

[cyborg]

Seeing how blacks live in Africa, Haiti and pretty much anywhere else, I beg to differ.

These types of statements do not help us part company, but it does lend aid to multuculturalism as moral and necessary. They were not overpopulated, experiencing social upheaval, diseased and starving nearly as bad until after we showed up with our empires, slave traders, poachers and missionaries. Neither were they living unwanted and resented, hating us, in poverty in our own countries at the time.

[harjit]

What do whites get out of it? Ask those who wanted to bring non-whites into the mix in the first place.

If your intention was to ask this of non-racists at the Phora, well, we just oppose racism and divisiveness among groups already in a country.

And since we don't view our own races as anything sacred or special or cherished, and hardly know anyone who does, we believe that those who think that way must have a problem. So we don't want them to gain power or have any say in how the country is run.

That is the honest truth. It has nothing to do with promoting more immigration or wanting to shove more and more non-whites into a country. The owner of an orange grove in Florida would better be able to answer that than us.

[Warka]

And since we don't view our own races as anything sacred or special or cherished, and hardly know anyone who does, we believe that those who think that way must have a problem. So we don't want them to gain power or have any say in how the country is run.

I disagree with you and find your racial view extremely bizarre but your honesty is appreciated.

[cyborg]

Last I checked, there is room for harjit's type of societies and room for societies that are racially unmixed. These existed during antiquity and they exist now.

The difference in our time is that of all people, Indo-Europeans do not have any unmixed lands of their own. This is a form of racial hatred on a collossal scale directed at Indo-Europeans. It is not racism to be an Indo-European who in understanding this passive act of extermination, seeks methods of change for survival.

[harjit]

The difference in our time is that of all people, Indo-Europeans do not have any unmixed lands of their own. This is a form of racial hatred on a collossal scale directed at Indo-Europeans. It is not racism to be an Indo-European who in understanding this passive act of extermination, seeks methods of change for survival.
It is not so much a case of racial hatred directed at anyone.

It just happened that Western society had a certain enlightened aspect that resulted in the status quo.

It is not so much a case of wanting to force races together as much as cherishing this enlightened aspect. Racial seperation per se is not so bad as the kind of thinking and social attitudes that need to take root to make it possible. The changes would impact everything we are familiar with. It would be a culture we wouldn't recognize.

If, for the sake of argument, Canada were to go down that path, it wouldn't be a big physical or financial disaster for me personally, I have various options. But I would certainly mourn the loss of the country I knew and loved.

Might Belarus work?

[shanemac]

And since we don't view our own races as anything sacred or special or cherished, and hardly know anyone who does, we believe that those who think that way must have a problem. So we don't want them to gain power or have any say in how the country is run.

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[kultron]

all we get is chinese food

[Helios Panoptes]

Two main things:
1) Novelty. This has been mentioned earlier in the thread with the references to ethnic eateries.
2) They are able to pat themselves on the back for their putative moral progress.

[Jake Featherston]

Not that I'm an anti, but you're wrong! Blacks gain plenty living in white societies. Whites of course are worse off.

I'm not even sure that's true. Would you want to be a nigger? I sure as Hell wouldn't. Niggers have crappy lives. A few of the them are smart enough to game the system and work themselves into a nice, affirmative action-based sinecure, but for most niggers, they live a life of knowing they can never go out of town for the weekend or everything they own will be stolen, and their own neighbors would slit their throats for twenty dollars. Living around niggers can't be all that great for niggers either. If I were a nigger and I came home from a hard day's selling crack, drinking malt liquor, and playing basketball, only to discover my four-year old of indeterminate gender had been sodomized by the (likely HIV+, although as a nigger, I'm not bright enough to figure that part out yet) recent ex-con I've been letting sleep on our couch, blaming the White man for my plight would likely seem like pretty thin gruel.

[Helios Panoptes]

I'm not even sure that's true. Would you want to be a nigger? I sure as Hell wouldn't. Niggers have crappy lives. A few of the them are smart enough to game the system and work themselves into a nice, affirmative action-based sinecure, but for most niggers, they live a life of knowing they can never go out of town for the weekend or everything they own will be stolen, and their own neighbors would slit their throats for twenty dollars. Living around niggers can't be all that great for niggers either. If I were a nigger and I came home from a hard day's selling crack, drinking malt liquor, and playing basketball, only to discover my four-year old of indeterminate gender had been sodomized by the (likely HIV+, although as a nigger, I'm not bright enough to figure that part out yet) recent ex-con I've been letting sleep on our couch, blaming the White man for my plight would likely seem like pretty thin gruel.

The average black in the United States has a much higher standard of living than the average black African.

[Jake Featherston]

It could be argued that those blacks also "live off the White man" to a degree. For instance, White nations send billions of dollars in aid to Africa.

We also drew their borders for them, did a very poor job, and threaten to bomb them anytime they try to correct the 50-year old errors of the British & French Foreign Ministries (they finally permitted an exception for Eritrea, perhaps because the borders of Ethiopia were literally the only ones not drawn up by European diplomats). Blacks tend to be worthless, yes, but Whites have done a lot to exacerbate that natutral tendency within them. I'm sure an independent Republic of Biafra would still be a shithole, but it'd probably be an improvement over Nigerian-occupied Biafra, so to speak. Africa, like Europe, would probably benefit from the existence of ethno-states, but that idea was utterly suppressed not long after the Second World War.

[Count Sudoku]

I'm not even sure that's true. Would you want to be a nigger? I sure as Hell wouldn't. Niggers have crappy lives. A few of the them are smart enough to game the system and work themselves into a nice, affirmative action-based sinecure, but for most niggers, they live a life of knowing they can never go out of town for the weekend or everything they own will be stolen, and their own neighbors would slit their throats for twenty dollars. Living around niggers can't be all that great for niggers either. If I were a nigger and I came home from a hard day's selling crack, drinking malt liquor, and playing basketball, only to discover my four-year old of indeterminate gender had been sodomized by the (likely HIV+, although as a nigger, I'm not bright enough to figure that part out yet) recent ex-con I've been letting sleep on our couch, blaming the White man for my plight would likely seem like pretty thin gruel.

I hardly see any blacks leaving America to go live in Africa. I do see plenty leaving Africa to live in America though. That about sums it up.

And most blacks aren't drug dealers and a lot of them don't live in the ghetto. Most corporations are desperate to hire any half competent black to fill their AA quota and the government will hire the rest.

[Captain Marinesko]

It is important to try to get at the root of all this "diversity" in the first place. What is the reason why anyone immigrates in most cases?

War- often the product of a capitalist society

Economic problems- ditto.

Hell, even people moving around in their own country move due to economic issues. Does anyone here think that all those blacks moved into the midwest because they suddenly decided it was a good idea? No, it was partially due to the calculated destruction of semi-feudal share-cropping and the need of auto-manufacturers to secure a new source of cheaper labor from a less organized segment of the proletariat.

In a Communist society, not only would you eliminate the cause of immigration, but you would also see a more "rooted" population in general because there is little reason for anyone to move about.

[antibuddha]

2) They are able to pat themselves on the back for their putative moral progress.


They are, as always, carrying the burden of human advancement. It is their manifest destiny, and they must rise to it.

[Berianidze]

A sense of self-righteous satisfaction?

[shanemac]

In a Communist society, not only would you eliminate the cause of immigration, but you would also see a more "rooted" population in general

I agree with you. I take it you're using the word "rooted" in its Australian sense (ie fucked).

[Winston]

A sense of self-righteous satisfaction?

I don't think this can be overestimated as a main driving force of diversity/anti-racism.

[Captain Marinesko]

I agree with you. I take it you're using the word "rooted" in its Australian sense (ie fucked).


I don't know much about Australia, but what I do mean is that not only will there be virtually no logical reason for people to move from country to country, but there will be little reason to move around within a country as well. Most people move to another city for work, or to escape something that is in one way or another an outgrowth of the capitalist system.

[Starr]

Higher crime rates. Whiny minorities who are never satstified and always demand more. Higher taxes. A loss of identity. A loss of our cultural and racial dominance in our own lands. The negative far ourweighs any positive people try to come up with. If everybody is the same than what are these special gifts that only other races can enrich our lives with? Does something not seem a bit contradictory in that?

A sense of self-righteous satisfaction?


Yes, and that self righteous satstifaction seems to come most often from people who don't actually seem to value diversity in their own life, but want you to in yours.

[il ragno]

What do whites get out of diversity?

Based on the Va Tech Massacre, I'd say exit wounds.

[tempus fugit]

I think the answer is "cheap labor, plus a whole lack of assimilation we didn't expect".

[Arminius]

Based on the Va Tech Massacre, I'd say exit wounds.

That's not a case of diversity. That's a case of an individual making a choice to commit murder. He doesn't represent other minorities, just like a white murder doesn't represent whites.

[kane123123/Eagle Eye/stumbler/iceman]

Whites get affirmative action, Jew-hating Muslims, massive immigration of non-Whites into White countries and only into white countries, illegal alien criminals who are treated as legal simply because they aren't white, a bunch of pissed off "national socialist" Germans who supposedly speak for white racial consciousness when most non-German whites could give a fuck about Germany instead of a real pro-White movement, Spanish as a second language, and more. It's great.

[Dr. Gutberlet]

Racial, cultural, and spiritual doom of course!

[Osmium14]

"If racial diversity were a strength, people would be drawn to it naturally. They would mix spontaneously with people unlike themselves. And yet, they do not. They do not because racial diversity is not a strength. It is a source of tension and conflict. People may submit to racial diversity in their public lives but turn their backs on it in their private lives." --Jared Taylor

"Whenever people complain about racism, bigotry, hatred, racial profiling, discrimination, they are not talking about the joys and benefits of racial diversity. They are admitting that it is a source of tension and suffering." --Jared Taylor

"If diversity is such a strength I wonder why it has to be 'managed,' why there are 'challenges,' and why it takes 'champions of the workplace' to make it work. The Nova Scotia commission also offers 'workshops' on issues surrounding diversity, discrimination, race relations, and harassment." Why does something that is a great strength require workshops?" --Jared Taylor

:rofl:

[Starr]

there also would not need to be laws, speech codes and amusingly ridiculous over reactions to political incorrectness that ends up in a situation where people are walking around on eggshells so as not to offend every and any special group. Are people actually so stupid as to believe forced civility is based in anything real that will last?:deadhorse:

[cyborg]

What do non-whites get out of diversity?

Helping is doing something for someone that they are not capable of doing themselves.

Example: teach a man to fish = fight for your own homeland, invent your own economy, be your own majority in your own land

Enabling is doing for someone things that they could, and should be doing themselves.

Example: feed a man a fish = refugee status, welfare, affirmative action

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