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Felix the Cat
12-15-2005, 03:54 PM
Clash of values (http://www.spectator.co.uk/article.php?id=7112&issue=2005-12-17)

Liberal columnists, especially in London, New York and Los Angeles, can’t quite grasp why some Christians get upset about people saying ‘Happy Holidays’ instead of ‘Happy Christmas’. ‘People who use the word holiday now face angry Christian protests,’ they assert. Well, if they have faced such protests, it’s news to me. Most Christians I know simply snicker when the C-word is avoided in order not to cause offence. What reasonable people get upset about is being forbidden to say Happy Christmas themselves, or call a Christmas tree a Christmas tree. Actually, I don’t think I know of a single Christian who rubs his Christianity into non-Christians by wishing a Happy Christmas to a devout or non-devout Muslim or Hindu or Jew. Mind you, it might slip out, but no offence is ever intended. At least I like to think so.

But, let’s face it, non-Western immigrants observe Christmas because we Christians observe it, not because they like it or enjoy it or are expected to. Conversely, when we go to places like India or China or Saudi Arabia, we observe their religious holidays without protest. So don’t look for a Saudi headline asking Muslims not to offend Westerners by not mentioning Ramadan. On the contrary. Yet we Westerners feel that we might offend the people who have come to our shores when we use the C-word. Something very wrong here, as the shrewd detective said. What is even more wrong is the conniption the New York Times had over the commercialisation of Christmas. A jerk by the name of Adam Cohen wrote scathingly in the op-ed page about certain Christian commentators who have asked shoppers to boycott shops which avoid the C-word. What is wrong with that? Cohen might not like the word, but some of us do. Here’s one of the reasons he gave for avoiding Christmas: ‘In 1946, the Rabbinical Assembly of America declared that calling on Jewish children to sing Christmas carols was an infringement of their rights as Americans.’

But America, like Britain, is supposedly a Christian country which allows freedom of religion to everyone, and the price for that freedom is a carol or two on 24 December. No big deal, as far as I’m concerned, but very big to the Big Bagel Times. Never mind. When radical Islam conquers the West, Adam Cohen will no longer have to put up with carols, but he’ll have to bang his head rather hard on the floor five times a day facing Mecca. And there is more good news. The Muslim quarter for the London 2012 Olympics will include a three-storey mosque which will hold 40,000 worshippers, making it the largest mosque in Europe. The greatest capacity of the largest church in England is, of course, something like 3,000, which makes sort of a joke of the Cof E, as well as of a country which calls itself Christian. Just think of it. And shed a tear for someone whose birthday is on 25 December and who gave his life for us.

daisy
12-15-2005, 04:08 PM
in 1946, the rabbinical assembly of america declared that calling on jewish children to sing christmas carols was an infringement of their rights as americans. truecatch 22 stopping christmas is going to put a big dent in the bankrolls of some jewish merchants.

Felix the Cat
12-16-2005, 03:45 PM
The War Against Christmas

It was only a matter of time, wasn't it? Since George Washington's executive proclamation in 1789 establishing November 26 as the day that we should give thanks to our Lord for all the favors, kind care and protection he had offered our country, and the Long Island supervisor who objected to a local Catholic priest's religious blessing of a Christmas tree. Jon Kaiman, who is Jewish, made his displeasure known in front of a large crowd which had gathered for the annual lighting of the Manhasset township Christmas tree. Kaiman is the town's supervisor and after the Rev. Nick Zientarski blessed the tree, he grabbed the microphone from the priest's hand and hollered, "This is nonsense. We're not doing this again next year. I can't believe this. I want to make it clear that this is no way a religious ceremony..."

The priest, for his part, had this to say: "I thought about what blessing to give, and it seemed to me that because this was a Christmas tree, it would be OK to use the blessing from my Catholic tradition." To be fair, Kaiman later apologized for his harsh and aggressive manner, but the first blow against the blessing of a Christmas tree has been struck by a Jewish supervisor in an upmarket Long Island town. Now let's reverse matters. And ask ourselves what would happen if a Christian supervisor had grabbed the microphone from a rabbi who was busy blessing the lighting of a Menorah. I'll tell you. He would be arrested and brought up on hate crime charges quicker than you can say Abe Foxman, that's what.

And Kaiman is not alone. Overseas, in Britain to be exact, there are widespread efforts to remove the Christian message from Christmas, with local authorities putting up "winter" lights, schools ignoring nativity plays, and firms refusing to allow decorations in case they offend minorities. And it gets better. A millionaire, Joel Krupnik, who owns apartment buildings on the Lower East Side of New York City and in Israel, has
decorated his house with a skinny Santa with a bloody head in one hand and a knife in another (http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2273). He calls it freedom of expression, but again, it is freedom to insult the Christian faith, no ifs or buts about it.

In San Francisco, in the meantime, 18 police officers were suspended for appearing in homemade videos for a Christmas party parodying the Police Department. They are accused of homophobia. The New York Times gave it the full page treatment. But not a word appeared about the Manhasset supervisor. You'd think San Francisco was in New York State, and Long Island in California.