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Felix the Cat
12-15-2005, 05:18 PM
French Muslims Change Name to Get a "Chance" (http://www.turkishweekly.net/news.php?id=21902)

"Abdel Rahim" has changed his name to "Peres" and no longer brags about his Arabic roots in public to spare himself police and employers' discrimination, and dozens have opted for the new lease of life to escape the harsh reality.

“Neither my family in Morocco nor my Muslim colleagues in France knew that I changed my name on official papers,” the 23-year-old French-naturalized Moroccan told IslamOnline.net Monday, November 21.

“The new name gave me a job and put me on an equal footing with my work colleagues, who knew nothing about my background.”

He said that his dark complexion further represented a stumbling bloc to his ambitions.

“But I found a way out by pretending that I was of Spanish origins,” he said, with a bitter laugh on his face.

“When I was Abdel Rahim, I never received any response from five companies for which I had applied,” he added. “But Peres was accepted now in two jobs and has to choose.”

French Muslims and Arabs, estimated at some six million, are heavily concentrated in the Paris suburb of Saint Denis, the scene of deadly riots by angry immigrant youths over the past two weeks.

Years of government negligence and marginalization have turned the northern Paris district of Saint Denis, where half a million Muslims live, into a hotbed for unemployment and aberration.

Initially sparked by the electrocution deaths of two teenagers of west and North African background hiding from police in an electrical sub-station in a poor neighborhood northeast of Paris, the riots grew as youths from high-immigrant districts across the country joined in.

Many voiced anger at racial discrimination despite being born in France, a lack of educational and employment prospects and police harassment.

First-class Citizen

Abdel Rahim says he now has nothing to worry about when stopped by police on the streets to check his ID.

“They treat me as a first-class citizen with no discrimination at all,” Abdel Rahim said.

Karim, 22, choose Christophe to make life easy in highly background-conscious France.

“I have been jobless for four years though I filled some 57 job applications and studied media in one of the French universities,” he said.

Nigma found a proper apartment and a job after she had changed her name to Marianne.

Others tried to strike a balance between their Arabic identity and reality by giving heir children French-Arabic names like Joseph.

A Sorbonne research released earlier in the year by the French Observatory Against Racism found that Arab names and dark complexion represent an obstacle to jobseekers.

The “Discrimination at Workplace” research said that the organization sent 325 CVs of competitive applicants, who only differ in names and origin, to find later that the opportunity for North African applicants to get a job is five times less than natives.

Not a Solution

But Ahmad Gaballah, member of the European Council of Fatwa and Research, said changing names is not a solution to the problems of Arabs and Muslims in France.

“I myself do not go for this,” he told IOL. “We must address the roots of racism, which is the problem of thousands in France.”

He said the recent riots have drawn the attention of politicians and media to the importance of combating this ugly phenomenon.

“As far as religion is concerned, changing names is not prohibited as long as the new name does not offend Islam,” he said, noting that many of French Muslim reverts had kept their original names.

But he warned that changing Arabic and Islamic names could be a prelude to gradual disintegration of the original identity.

Excorcism
12-15-2005, 05:37 PM
The Spanish must be pissed when they have a bunch of North African muslims walking around in France pretending to be them.

Felix the Cat
12-15-2005, 05:50 PM
It's not just Muslims. Mestizos from South America also usually claim to be "Spanish" when they arrive in Europe

Count Eustace II
12-15-2005, 06:06 PM
Hey Habib, how about changing countries instead of going to all the trouble of changing your name??

Some country in North Africa perhaps?

raven
12-15-2005, 06:28 PM
Our poor Iberian brothers. That sucks. Why did they change his name to a Spanish surname? Why not French? That is what some psychopathic algerian serial killer in Canada did in Quebec when he killed 14 women and wounded 13 more at gunpoint outside of an Engineering University in Montreal. What pisses me off most about that crime here though is that back in Dec 89 when it happened the media never revealed him as a muslim or of being Algerian or even North African. They just stated his name which was Marc Lepine but his previous name was Gamil Gharbi. It was incidentally this crime that brought major "reforms" to Canada's firearms laws. :rolleyes:

Felix the Cat
12-16-2005, 10:13 AM
Our poor Iberian brothers. That sucks. Why did they change his name to a Spanish surname? Why not French? That is what some psychopathic algerian serial killer in Canada did in Quebec when he killed 14 women and wounded 13 more at gunpoint outside of an Engineering University in Montreal. What pisses me off most about that crime here though is that back in Dec 89 when it happened the media never revealed him as a muslim or of being Algerian or even North African. They just stated his name which was Marc Lepine but his previous name was Gamil Gharbi. It was incidentally this crime that brought major "reforms" to Canada's firearms laws. :rolleyes:
Related discussion (http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=2068)

Ambrosio Spinola
12-16-2005, 10:21 AM
While certainly it does not do Spain any favor I would not worry to much about this since the natural tendency in inmigrant communities is to raise in numbers till the point where "integration" is no longer needed and their homeland customs and uses find their way back into their Ghetto neighborhoods. For each Abdul who morphes into Smith there are three who now feeling confident in their numbers name their sons Muhamad and send him to their religious schools.

raven
12-16-2005, 01:47 PM
While certainly it does not do Spain any favor I would not worry to much about this since the natural tendency in inmigrant communities is to raise in numbers till the point where "integration" is no longer needed and their homeland customs and uses find their way back into their Ghetto neighborhoods. For each Abdul who morphes into Smith there are three who now feeling confident in their numbers name their sons Muhamad and send him to their religious schools.
Yep exactly. Over here in Canada we don't have this problem because while the muslims are sizeable in numbers here (though much less percentage wise than say Malmo,Sweden for eg.), they tend to be mixed in with other groups so therefore they are still for the most part forced to integrate. They don't really have the opportunity to remodel places here according to their homeland customs and turn places into ghettos. Sure you have some stores with arabic/urdu writing but they are not concentrated as far as I've seen and they are spread out. However considering that our PC-mad country has an official Multiculturalism act and prides itself in being a cultural mosaic I do think that this will eventually bite us in the ass hard. Over in Toronto we have the Little Italys, the Portugal Villages, and the China Towns but the Italians, Portuguese and Chinese fit just well into Canadian society.

However I do hear horror stories about how Chinese are spoon-fed in Vancouver but over here the Chinese make an effort to learn the language and eventually they do... even if they happen to speak with an accent. But that's the mainland China folks... Hong Kong (there are many who went to Canada) immigrants speak very good English and tend to be quality immigrants. This is why I don't mind non-white immigrants... I just believe in quality over quantity. :p If anything the Hong Kong immigrants who come here at teenagehood and prior have their intelligence and work-ethic dumbed down by our education system.

Anarch
12-16-2005, 02:35 PM
The Spanish must be pissed when they have a bunch of North African muslims walking around in France pretending to be them.
Someone should tell Mynydd over at Stirpes.

Ambrosio Spinola
12-17-2005, 03:43 AM
Someone should tell Mynydd over at Stirpes.

Mynydd? Hell, PM it to Arthur Kemp. I bet he will put it to great use in his "historical" account of the white race. :D

Atlas
12-25-2005, 05:07 PM
That's rather useless, changing your name won't change your face, if your skin is brown, you have still less chance to get a job, fortunately.