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Petr
04-29-2007, 12:36 PM
Worthless Darwinian bullies like Pizzy need to be firmly confronted by every person of serious theistic faith. Appeasement of such wolves is as degrading as it is useless. Say it loud, I'm an anti-materialist and I'm proud!


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PZ Myers Bashes Theistic Evolutionists and Explains Why They are Acceptable to Scientists

by MikeGene

Biologist PZ Myers accuses the theistic evolutionists of being creationists:

Oh, come on now. I know Mooney isn't a creationist — I read the book. The problem is that if you look at Mooney/Nisbet through the lens of their recent publications, all you can see on this issue is sympathy and support for theistic evolutionists.

And, I'm sorry, but theistic evolutionists are creationists. They're just creationists who accept evidence and readily back off from specific claims about their creator god, but they still place faith in unwarranted assumptions about the existence and interventions of a supernatural being, they just tuck it into the gaps in our knowledge. What makes theistic evolution somewhat acceptable to scientists is that its proponents are so willing to run away from their faith when challenged.

BTW, if you’ll notice, the New Atheists are gradually re-defining things such that that C-word gets applied to all theists. Remember that we have seen the real reason for the desire to use the C-word.

Insidium
04-30-2007, 03:22 AM
It is the sign of a healthy mind when its paradigm is altered to incorporate new evidence.

Angler
04-30-2007, 09:04 AM
BTW, if you’ll notice, the New Atheists are gradually re-defining things such that that C-word gets applied to all theists. Remember that we have seen the real reason for the desire to use the C-word.Actually, I haven't noticed. Though there may be a few, I seriously doubt that most atheists (what is a "New Atheist," anyway?) would make a claim as silly as "all theists are creationists." Obviously that claim is untrue. Creationists are a subset of theists.

Theistic evolution is a billion times more reasonable than creationism, and many scientists are theistic evolutionists. Creationism rejects known facts and well-established science in favor of fables in a book, making it ludicrous; theistic evolution at least acknowledges what's known. The weakness in theistic evolution is that it introduces a supernatural explanation where one has not been shown to be needed.