NA: A 'Jewish' strategy

[Anarch]

I'm copying this thread from Skadi because it may be of intest to Phora members.

Onionpeeler:

For those interested in the Jewish matter:

In this article

http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=230 (http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=230)

John Young hints that the most anti-semitic thing you can do is to not be anti-semitic. Since the Jewish identity thrives on anti-semitism, ignoring them might be the wisest strategy. In the absence of sheparding anti-semitism, they are not inclined to retreat into their identity. The result in America: a 50% intermarriage rate. Their cohesive instincts are relaxed, not nearly as acute as when there is clear hostility.

This, of course, does nothing for European identity. But the article is interesting.

[Anarch]

My response:


Sounds very much similar to the idea the main character of 'The Believer' (Danny, I think his screen name was) advocated. Mass street assimilation. This would effectively mean the de-politicisation of the mass of Jews. The ones at the top, however, are obviously a great problem. Which brings an idea I took from my National Bolshevik stage about a year ago, which I learned from Maoism. Perhaps class warfare + race warfare? I don't mean knocking off the middle class - quite obviously, that is absurd. But if we took the idea from CW Mills, that of the 'power elite' (media, industrial, military, and political elites as a whole organism working together for its own benefit - obviously the Jews are these elites, insofar as the actions are concerned, the rest are mere auxilliaries, yet will need to be made politically impotent), an idea that Noam Chomsky, an Anarchist which seems not to be in favour at all of the power elite (predominantly Jewish) system, and his analysis of how the four power groupings are so tightly intertwined, then there's an idea.

We do not openly (on the streets, politically) mention the Jew. We scream for the decapitation of the power elites. Which encompasses all the Jews moving against the interests of our race anyway. I dare anyone to show me someone amongst the power elites who openly works in our favour. So we adopt a Maoist stance of not drawing any distinctions whatsoever between the foreign elites (Jews) and the native traitors. Fit them all in a single bag, and destroy it. As Hitler said, the genius of politics is the man who groups all of his enemies under a single identifiable banner. It's easier to take down, because the masses only see a single banner on the other side. With the mass annihilation of the power elites, and the Jew-on-the-street who slowly becomes to see himself as white (through victimisation by Blacks etc.) and Jew as secondary, and then even cultural assimilation of the Jew-on-the-street to the point his genuine heritage becomes irrelevant in his eyes, it's just an 'old family religion', much like Protestantism or Catholicism. The point stands. I think the Jews as a political unit, along with all their auxilliaries, an be annihilated with a switch from anti-Jewism to an anti-power elite stance. I think the Jews on the street can be annihlated too. A Jew (that is, someone who considers himself a Jew first and foremost) who places his political alliegence with whites is not an issue. Examples of this are the Jewish white nationalists Michael Levin, who wrote 'Why Race Matters' and Michael Hart, who advocates a white seperatist nation in North America.

As the article says, Jews who don't hold their political alliegence with whites or Westerners or Europeans or whatever you wish to call it can be swept away afterwards.

[Anarch]

Onionpeeler:

The whole Jewish conspiracy thing gets a little tiring. Any one with an eye recognizes disproportionate power. But with a socio-biological eye, much of it can been seen as their peculiar response - like a not quite entirely coordinated plural organism. Interestingly, the Palestinians seem to have a different response. Their birth rates are among the highest in the Arab world. It is almost as if that is their response to the formation of Israel.

The Jews are in uncharted territory as are Europeans. And we both appear to be 'losing' the competition.

Now that they have a state, they've fought tenaciously and admirably to keep it, but they're being outbred. In Europe and America, the pre-19th Century conditions in which they developed no longer exist. The "Holocaust" is almost a desparate cry to bring back simpler days. But having elevated it to foundational myth, no run-of-the-mill anti-semitism will keep them in the fold.

As for Europeans, universalism and inclusiveness are killing us.

The idea of grouping the bad guys makes sense to me. You could extend it to include the elites of all other groups - the Jesse Jacksons. But then what is 'our' identity?

[Anarch]

My response:

We pick up traditional European values and culture as our own identity - extended family (the 'nuclear family as foundation of society' is a myth and recent construct of Modernism - the Roman notion of family carries more in common with the Sicilian mafia as fraternal brotherhood, with the wife and children as auxiliaries. I repeat - Occidental extended family and Roman patriarchy have little in common), homeland, tradition, virtue, the restoration of individual power, and so on.

[Anarch]

NOTE: This thread was originally made in September 2003. My views have changed somewhat since then, but much remains the same.

[Starr]

John Young hints that the most anti-semitic thing you can do is to not be anti-semitic. Since the Jewish identity thrives on anti-semitism, ignoring them might be the wisest strategy. In the absence of sheparding anti-semitism, they are not inclined to retreat into their identity. The result in America: a 50% intermarriage rate. Their cohesive instincts are relaxed, not nearly as acute as when there is clear hostility.

This, of course, does nothing for European identity. But the article is interesting.

Do to ongoing computer issues,:( i cannot click on the article and will just have to go with your summary of it.

What the hell can really be said about this. I couldn't agree more that Jewish identity thrives on anti-semitism, but Jews are always going to be looking out for their own interests at the expense of others in any way they can as they have always done(I would be a liar to say that if I was a jew, I would see anything wrong with this) And I am not real keen on the thought of them assimilating into the white gene pool. So to ignore them and the harm they have and continue to bring upon whites(with plenty of help from our own) in hopes of achieving these ends seems, to me at least, to be a ridiculous argument. That being said I do also think "the all knowing all powerful jews behind every tree, responsible for all things" is also pretty retarded.

[raven]

I believe Borat has a solution to the "jewish problem" :D

http://www.campchaos.com/show.php?iID=866

[daisy]

the jews are these elites, insofar as the actions are concerned, the rest are mere auxilliaries
who the elites are and who the auxilliaries are is getting a little confusing
i can tell from pictures all these jewish baghdad rabbies are white albinos
http://www.babylonjewry.org.il/new/picarc/people/2.jpg
click on pictures then people the pics are all albinos
http://www.babylonjewry.org.il/new/english/index.html
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[ironweed]

I have a distant cousin (she's the daughter of my dad's first cousin...not sure what that makes her to me. 2nd cousin?) who married a Jewish guy, and they're raising their two children Roman Catholic.

But going the other way, my parents have new neighbors who have a very Irish last name, where the husband converted into Judaism. They do the whole temple thing, obviously as Reform Jews. So I'm not so sure intermarriage by itself is ultimately going to lead to fewer people considering themselves Jewish.

As an aside, and doubtless off-topic ot this thread...The whole business of Hollywood suddenly discovering the Kaballah strikes me as so surreal I'm not sure how to even look at it. Especially since if you do it right its only supposed to be for married men over the age of 40, so I'm not even sure how that can use the term "Kaballah." If I were Jewish I'd be appalled that a skank like Madonna wanted in, personally...but they're welcome to her (in my view). Personally I wouldn't go near that broad except in a full HazMat suit. She's probably got more creepy crawlies than a microbiology lab.