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raven
12-21-2005, 01:06 AM
Source: http://www.nypress.com/18/49/news&columns/SusanCrainBakos.cfm


A WHITE WOMAN EXPLAINS WHY SHE PREFERS BLACK MEN
“How many white men can treat a woman like a lady and ravish her too?”

By Susan Crain Bakos

Black skin is thick and lush, sensuous to the touch, like satin and velvet made flesh. There's only one patch of skin on a white man's body that remotely compares to nearly every inch of a black man's skin. The first time I caressed black skin, it felt like a luxury I shouldn't be able to afford. I craved it more strongly than Carrie Bradshaw craved Manolo Blahnik shoes. That phrase, "Once you go black, you never go back" is all about the feeling of the skin.

And I had the socially acceptable explanation for my craving. I used that paucity-of-available-white-partners rationale to explain my relationships with black men for several years. A white woman past forty is often passed over by her white-male contemporaries. She goes younger or ethnic or foreign-born or down the socioeconomic scale or darker or she spends lonely nights at home with her cats. Black men are happy to get the babe they couldn't have when she was twentysomething and fertile. The laws of the marketplace do prevail. It's not me, it's them—them being the white guys who weren't after me anymore, or so I claimed.

That's a lie. The truth is, I attract about the same percentage of available white men my age (and far younger!) now as I did when I was thirty—and that's not including the unavailable white men who want to play around anyway.

Enough white men want me that I was hardly facing enforced celibacy, but I don't want them.

I want black men. They want me. We look at one another and exchange a visible frisson of sexual energy in the lingering glances. And our attraction is based first on race. We are not those couples who "happen to fall in love" with someone of a different race or more purposefully come together but out of some greater sense of interracial understanding and respect. Not as politically-correct men and women do we seek one another out. The Internet has made it a lot easier for us to find each other now. Men advertise: ebony seeks ivory. Women write: seeking tall, dark, and handsome. Very dark. We are not the same people who say: Race is not important. It is important to us. We have race-specific desires.

Even in a time when nearly 40 percent of single Americans have dated outside their race, that deliberate seeking of the specific other makes some people, especially black women, damned mad.

We are what they denigrate and castigate: white women and black men who choose one another because of our racial differences. They resent our taking their men. Black men are two and a half times more likely to marry a white woman than a black woman is to marry a white man. Black women can point to that statistic in justifying their wrath. But in truth, black sisters, we're after the sex, not the ring—and these guys aren't the marrying kind anyway.

Yes, the sex!

The woman who goes after black men is a variant of sex journalist Susie Bright's "white bitch in heat," a woman who puts sex first even though women aren't supposed to do that. According to one school of thought, white women turn to black men when their sex drives kick into higher gear and their social inhibitions recede into the rearview mirror. It's a "yes, baby, now I'm ready for you" reaction.

When we get to the "yes, baby" place, they know it, and they are ready and waiting for us. Black men have more energy, style and edge than white men. They know how to flirt, a nearly lost art among the rest of us. A black man is so damned sexy because he knows how to make a woman feel sexy.

Black men have something white guys don't have anymore: confidence in their masculinity, their sexuality. They clearly know they're men. White men appear to be waiting for the latest sociological research study to let them know if they are men or not. Yet black men are gentlemen, something else white men no longer are. They make me feel like a woman, both respected and desired. I can let go of my inhibitions, my need to control, when I am with them. How many white men can treat a woman like a lady and ravish her too?

I often felt in my White Period that only during heated sex does that little layer of air bubbles between me and the world pop and disappear, leaving me open to intimate connection. It takes a lot of friction for two white people to get that close. These black men, so alive with erotic electricity, cut through the bubbles with a touch, a caress, a kiss—and they free me—and I can truly touch them. I am like a pampered passenger in a Porsche with an expert driver at the wheel. I know I could suggest a route change, but I never really want to do that. On the other hand, the last time I had sex with a white man, we slogged along a bumpy road in a really old VW, the driver like the typical bumbling tv husband who would neither ask for nor accept the directions he badly needed.

My current lover, a handsome businessman, seduced me via eye contact at a neighborhood bar while I was eating burgers with a friend. Without saying a word, he paid the compliments, asked the questions with his expressive eyes. He didn't move over to sit beside me and ask if he could buy me a drink until he knew the time was right. Both soft-spoken and assertive, he has impeccable manners and charm. I was kissing him in a cab 30 minutes after that drink.

On another night in that same bar, a different black man, an artist, knelt and kissed my knees.

I am sure there must be some black men who aren't good in bed. Personally, I have not experienced one who isn't. (True, I am not dating down the socioeconomic ladder, but I didn't do that when I dated white either, so the racial comparisons seem valid and fair.) They look better than white men, they touch and kiss and make love better than white men. Statistically, their penises are only a fraction of an inch bigger on average, but they seem bigger and harder.

White men over 40 have lost their waistlines and their zest for life—if they ever had it. They carry resentments, grudges and extra pounds in their basketball bellies. Perhaps a good part of that bloat is unhappiness. Even the thin ones look flabby somehow and deeply aggrieved. They nurse the smallest perceived slight longer than their double shots of Scotch. Surely our culture as much as biology turns them into softer, spongier, less-interesting versions of their youthful selves just at the point where women and black men and other minorities are emerging strong. Society overvalues the white man, leaving him angry and bitter when he realizes, around age 40, that he's not all that.

With the exception of some Italians, white men don't turn me on anymore.

That admission puts me in the same category as the older man only interested primarily or exclusively in young women. While women my age scowl and frown at these aging, Upper West Side Boomers pushing strollers as the hand of the thin, blonde wife 20 years their junior rests lightly on their arm, I feel a kinship with the old goats. We are the same, me and that bald white guy, drawn to the exotic other, not caring that the object of our desire has no childhood memory of a Kennedy assassination or a typical WASP Sunday dinner of over-roasted beef, lumpy mashed potatoes and soggy vegetables.

Analyze the roots of attractions all you want—like scientists have done—and you won't come up with a perfect explanation for why we crave what we do. Desire rises from our depths and is gloriously oblivious to the good opinion of others. Yet until recently, I pretended that my lust was an equal-opportunity craving, because that seemed like the right thing to do.

Halfway through the first glass of wine in my last date with a white man, I realized that little clouds of sadness and self-pity were regularly fluffing off his psyche like the dust clouds kicked up by that dirt-smudged "Peanuts" character as he walks through Charlie Brown's life. This guy was at least mildly depressed, and I wanted to tell him to exercise, lose weight, trim the combover and get interested in something outside yourself. I would have walked out on him immediately, but he seemed to expect that. I couldn't deliver the blow to his ego proffered like the naked neck of a martyr to the ax. My Southern cousins would describe his general demeanor as a "hangdog air." Into the second glass of wine and glancing longingly at the exit, I wanted to hang that dog myself when he mentioned that his face was flushed—I hadn't noticed—because he'd taken a Viagra "just in case."

What did he think would entice me more: That he assumed sex was probable because I'm a sex journalist—or that he would need chemical help if sex did occur?

I cannot even imagine a black man bungling an attempted seduction in such a sad way.

That was my last token white guy. I recently came out of my racial-preference closet and told my friends, "I love black men. I'm not attracted to white men over 40, and I'm not dating them anymore. Really, it's not them, it's me.

Nobody was surprised.

What the fuck?

Petyr Baelish
12-21-2005, 01:12 AM
Are you sure she isn't Jewish?

raven
12-21-2005, 01:17 AM
Are you sure she isn't Jewish?
No clue. Her surname is Bakos (which I'm sure isn't jewish) but that still wouldn't prove that she isn't one.

B-Pep
12-21-2005, 01:23 AM
She clearly states she doesn't want blacks for marriage, but rather for sex.

Filthy whore.

All of those "white men over 40" will be laughing at her when she is sentenced to death via AIDS for her fucking free prostitution. "People" like her are below subhuman.

jcs
12-21-2005, 01:26 AM
All of those "white men over 40" will be laughing at her when she is sentenced to death via AIDS for her fucking free prostitution.
What if God doesn't judge our souls? What if she doesn't suffer His wrath? What if your vengeance-lust doesn't come through? What new fantasies will you use to comfort you?

Sinclair
12-21-2005, 01:56 AM
The whole "Still are gentlemen" thing might have a point.

After all, she is dating black men, her age. That's the important bit. 40 plus years... Blacks raised back then HAD to be polite. Because, in most places, not being polite got blacks into a lot of trouble. Simple truth. British women apparently liked black GIs in England during WWII for much the same reason. But really, this writer appears to be celebrating the remnants of Jim Crow. How racist of her. :p

The white men who are still self-assured and polite and so on are probably not going to be found mostly in the upper middle class. Or if they are, they are most likely not "on the market".

But really, who gives a fuck? I don't. If she was kissing some white guy 30 mins after she met him, she wouldn't be any more morally upright.

EDIT: It really just sounds to me like she's spending a huge amount of time trying to justify a personal preference. Would a white guy who was attracted to Asian girls write a fucking article about it?

Crowley
12-21-2005, 02:03 AM
As if sleeping with blacks isn't proof enough, talking down her own race is proof of her lack of class. In traditional countries the slut would have to go into hiding or have her head shaved.

Starr
12-21-2005, 02:51 AM
When I saw this article I wanted to post it, but it was so disgusting I didn't want to make everyone sick.

The whole "Still are gentlemen" thing might have a point.

After all, she is dating black men, her age. That's the important bit. 40 plus years... Blacks raised back then HAD to be polite. Because, in most places, not being polite got blacks into a lot of trouble. Simple truth. British women apparently liked black GIs in England during WWII for much the same reason. But really, this writer appears to be celebrating the remnants of Jim Crow. How racist of her. :p



That she would say, that black men, treat her like a lady and then go on to say that black men are not the marrying kind shows how fucked up in the head she is(as if any more proof is needed) So she is perfectly willing to screw all kinds of niggers and they "are gentlemen" even though they obviously want nothing to do with marrying her, or making any kind of commitment to her. It sounds to me like they are treating her like what she is, a slut. She obviously has no concept of what a "lady" is.

EDIT: It really just sounds to me like she's spending a huge amount of time trying to justify a personal preference.

She is obviously trying to stick it to white guys by talking about what a nigger lover she is or she is trying to justify it, to herself.

raven
12-21-2005, 03:00 AM
What does the Bakos name mean?
Last Name: Bakos

1. Hungarian: derivative of the medieval personal name Bak.
2. Croatian (Bakoš): from the personal name Bakoš, a pet form of Baltazar or of a Slavic name such as Bratoljub.

So shes probably of Hungarian descent? Or perhaps Hungarian Jewish maybe? Perhaps Meth was right when he said she may be jewish. Either way shes Hungarian something.

1-800
12-21-2005, 03:11 AM
Yo, I be diggin' on black bruthas 'cuz they be so hard n' shit, ya heard?

For all her supposed attraction to black men, she still treats them like they're something straight out of the most unreconstructed Southern male's worst nightmare-little more than walking hard-ons with big muscles.

We get it, lady!

Starr
12-21-2005, 03:14 AM
She may be a jew, but don't be so quick to assume she is because you want her to be.

raven
12-21-2005, 03:15 AM
She may be a jew, but don't be so quick to assume she is because you want her to be.
I'm not assuming she is. It's possible. Her surname is Hungarian in origin. I know that much. Her Hungarian ancestors must be rolling around in their grave. Also I don't think its common for jewish women to be hooking up with coons so if I had to take a guess I'd say she just has hungarian (non-jewish) descent.

OVERWATCH
12-21-2005, 03:30 AM
Yo, I be diggin' on black bruthas 'cuz they be so hard n' shit, ya heard?

For all her supposed attraction to black men, she still treats them like they're something straight out of the most unreconstructed Southern male's worst nightmare-little more than walking hard-ons with big muscles.

We get it, lady!

She's probably from one of the more exclusive, upscale, multiracial (sub?)urban centers(as opposed to the other, greater part of urbia which are filthy shiteholes).

I believe this because the way she portrays white men as being less than manly, makes me think she comes from a "progressive" and wealthy community filled with metrosexuals. Oh! the (dis)connectedness of life in the ivory tower! :rolleyes:

raven
12-21-2005, 03:44 AM
You should read this rebuttal that some guy writing in from Mexico sent to NY Press. He totally pwns her. :D


Nowadays, it is becoming increasingly difficult to figure out what is being said when Americans open up their mouths and speak. ["A White Woman Explains Why She Prefers Black Men," Dec. 7]. Many of my less generous compatriots have taken the view that the art of lying, far from being the preserve of federal employees, has in fact become the national pastime. However, in my years studying that fascinating nation to the north, I have developed a novel and considerably less harsh understanding of this phenomenon.

I believe that Americans, far from being liars, practice an extremely nuanced form of English in which traditional meanings of words act merely as a figurative shroud. Many words in American English have a whole array of hidden meanings and implications which cannot be found in any dictionary in print, yet which are nevertheless understood by the population at large. To a foreigner traveling within the United States, it is important to acquire this stealth vocabulary, which varies with the voice of the speaker, and without which American expression is unintelligible.

To illustrate this principle let us consider Susan Crain Bakos' dispatch on why she, a white women, prefers black men.

In order to develop the necessary lexicon, we must first understand that the author is an AWW (American White Woman). For those living outside of the US, the image of the AWW is very difficult to avoid: she appears on the covers of fasion magazines, on movie screens and on television--the empire's approved feminine paradigm. For this reason, an AWW has an enormous sense of self-worth and entitlement. However biology is the great equalizer, so that when an AWW reaches the age of 40, like her less privileged counterparts throughout the world, she becomes less attractive to men within her class. This sudden loss of interest can be very difficult to accept and results, especially among AWW's who are single and without children, in what I refer to as "white woman's rage."

We are now ready to attempt a reading of Bakos' article.

1) The correct translation of the title is "A White Woman Over 40 Explains Why She Is Enraged at White Men."

2) "I craved [black skin] more than Carrie Bradshaw craved Manolo Blahnik shoes." Here the author is telling us that she has watched (a lot of) the American TV show Sex and the City, a show about a group of four single and wealthy AWW's struggling to hang on to their extended childhoods as they approach 40. Translation: Help, I'm over 40.

3) "The truth is, I attract about the same percentage of available white men my age... now as I did when I was thirty." Translation: the word "truth'" appearing in any sentence constructed by an American usually indicates that what follows isn't exactly the truth. My guess is that while it may be true that the percentage of available white men has not changed, the percentage of desirable white men interested in the author has plummeted.

4) "But in truth, black sisters, we're after the sex, not the ring... and these guys aren't the marrying kind anyway." Here the word "truth" is used again to telegraph insincerity. Translation: I was after the ring, but it didn't work out. I'm using black men to "punish" white men for their lack of interest in me. Note: The use of "black sisters" is an attempt to justify this particular manifestation of white woman's rage by establishing an affinity with the struggles of black women. This sort of appeal is rarely effective.

5) "White bitch in heat." Translation: AWW drying up.

6) The rest of the article consists of a sequence of long and meandering attacks on white men. While this section contains a good many well-turned phrases, almost every statement contained therein is demonstrably false. The reader may thus understand the remainder of the article as linguistic hyperventalation induced by white female rage. Translation: Zero.

Source: http://www.nypress.com/18/50/mail/SOAPBOXING.cfm (about halfway down the page). On this page also features some other shots at her :D

Sinclair
12-21-2005, 03:59 AM
That guy does pwn her.

The phrase "black sisters" is odd. Is she supposed to believe this would make a black woman pissed that upscale black men (eg her businessman) are being "taken" by white women any less annoyed? I suspect it would do the opposite.

And 1-800 is right. Is the "suave, sexually powerful negro" stereotype any less offensive to black men, who are real people and not just some 40-something woman's playthings, when it's applied in a "this is a good thing" sense?

EDIT: The funny bit is that she probably thinks she's making some sort of "connection" with these men. Whereas, given how "easy" she presents herself as being, their view of her is probably more "Easy lay. Awesome!" I'd do the same in their shoes.

Some white guy should write a parody of this about how black women > white women because they're still sassy and they've got spirit and then work in as many still-offensive-even-though-"positive" stereotypes about black women, plus negative stereotypes among white women.

Example: "Black women don't mind telling you what they're thinking, especially when it involves waving their finger around and going 'Mmm-hmm' and 'No you DIN'T!'. Whereas white women will just sulk and withold sex and probably cheat on you with the gardener."

While I am a bit ashamed to have written that, it is pure comedy gold.

Starr
12-21-2005, 04:07 AM
Since that is a stereotype that black males seem to play upon and even exaggerate, I can't imagine many of them would truly find it offensive.

BTW: nice avatar, 88mmflak.:222:

raven
12-21-2005, 04:10 AM
I have just searched this bitch on google and she got 10,800 hits! She apparently isn't just some chick who writes for an alternative paper... she has a reputation with many published books (and I believe they are all on sexual topics). HOW THE FUCK DO THEY ALLOW SUCH AN IDIOT TO PUBLISH THIS MUCH?! Ten bucks says she probably blew the publishers to get all these book deals (and get published in the paper too). There are MANY, MANY people who get censored but yet this bitch gets through the filter? Unbelievable.

Sinclair
12-21-2005, 04:11 AM
Well, as long as something is there, some are going to use it.

But what about black guys who would rather just go home and watch TV instead of going out and wooing women? It would kind of be pissy to have that sort of thing to live up to, y'know.

raven
12-21-2005, 04:33 AM
Good God I just realized something. This article has brought back a bad memory. (Between talk of New York and BM/WF IR) A friend of mine (whom I haven't talked to in awhile) had a boyfriend right but while on her vacation in NYC she met up with a black dude and they got real flirty and stuff. She was telling me shit like how she liked him and stuff and I was like, "uhh... you have a boyfriend. Don't you love your boyfriend?" Then she was like "yes but... blah blah." Naturally, I was totally unable to hide my disgust.

Then I was telling her to stick with her man and to not think about this dude because black guys play a whole different game than what she's used to. Then she started accusing me of racism and shit. So what does she want? To cheat on her boyfriend? :rolleyes: Luckily she never hooked up with the black guy and stayed with the boyfriend. However I haven't talked to her in I guess well over a year so I don't know how she's doing now.

Starr
12-21-2005, 04:45 AM
Loyalty to my friends would normally hold me back, from becoming involved in shit like that, but I think in that case, I would have to tell the boyfriend. If she came that close to hooking up with the nigger who knows what other disgusting things she is doing.

raven
12-21-2005, 05:06 AM
Yeah. I haven't talked to her in a long while though (wasn't because of that). I just kind of faded out of touch with her. Don't remember why. :D I probably shouldn't have put it the way I did because with me it was kind of obvious that not only was I disgusted by the flirtation but also by the fact that he is black. Let's face it... it has always made my blood boil to see non-black women with black men. I don't have any memories of seeing Black Male-White Female Inter-racial relationships when I was young but I know that when I first started seeing it when I was like 10 years old (thats the earliest I remember), I hated them. And note that my parents nor anyone never taught me to be that way, I just had a repulsion to it.

But yeah I should have probably just stuck to saying what she was doing was morally wrong and not made any racial references. Funny thing is, I usually can't say anything about blacks with white girls but my non-white east asian/east indian/etc. male friends totally see eye to eye with me when it comes to blacks and in many cases rant on about how they can't stand them. Granted I don't dislike blacks. I just only appreciate the civlized ones and would rather they stick to their own kind.

6(sic)6
12-21-2005, 05:29 AM
hehhe...I would post it also if I found it.:D

daisy
12-21-2005, 09:20 AM
she is probally a breeding age white albino with 100% jew blood breeded into her. they are breeding 100% jew blood into most all the white albinos now to make them work harder. that stuff she wrote about black skin is what some french jew canadians say about black skin too. it is part of their brainwashing or it is written into their mind control programs. i am a white albino that doesn't think there is anything silky, special, or extra attractive about black skin.

Ace Rimmer
12-21-2005, 10:25 AM
http://www.whitewomenblackmen.com/

http://www.blackandwhitesingles.com/

:D

The average seems to be age 40+ and not much attractive, although it's not the rule.

daisy
12-21-2005, 10:49 AM
the average seems to be age 40+
you'd think they would be over that brainwashing by that age.
i believe the new mind control chips (50 cent pieces) are stronger and last longer.
maybe the new ones last forever.
they might as well change the titles to
albinowomenandblackmen
blackandalbinosingles
cause albinos come in more colors now than just white

Ambrosio Spinola
12-21-2005, 11:16 AM
This thread and the given answer are great! :D

Geist
12-21-2005, 01:11 PM
What if God doesn't judge our souls? What if she doesn't suffer His wrath? What if your vengeance-lust doesn't come through? What new fantasies will you use to comfort you?

True, maybe you can take some of her advice onboard. White men have been coming to close to depressed women themselves and for all the non feminists this is a horrific thing. Step in local Nigerian guy who hasnt touched a sociological study in his life and you've got old fashioned men that women tend to actually like.

Sinclair
12-21-2005, 02:17 PM
True, maybe you can take some of her advice onboard. White men have been coming to close to depressed women themselves and for all the non feminists this is a horrific thing. Step in local Nigerian guy who hasnt touched a sociological study in his life and you've got old fashioned men that women tend to actually like.

Good point there...

Geist
12-21-2005, 03:22 PM
Me and the only racist friend I know of discussed this before, the whiny tone of white buys as some black guy got all the girls on the dance floor. He was being manly, having fun and you could see jealousy in the eyes of the men. Our conclusion ws simple, you want the women get up and take them back, easy.

brigadier Biggles
12-21-2005, 03:39 PM
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."

- edmund burke

:D

Geist
12-21-2005, 03:52 PM
Exactamundo./

daisy
12-21-2005, 03:54 PM
That guy does pwn her i am glad i never watch sex and the city
i believe the reason for race mixing is to turn black's offsprings into albinos.
if wigers want to do that then they should get out of it after their job is done
i believe albinos are not suppose to fall in love with blacks.
if you ask me it is dumb for albinos to fall in love with their tricks.

raven
12-21-2005, 03:59 PM
Exactly. White men have to take 'em back so to speak. However, the problem is that with all these "hate speech" the government makes it illegal to do so in many circumstances. For eg. Like I said before. I can say whatever I want about blacks to my non-white male friends (I've even had one black friend I knew in highschool and even he showed contempt for other black people. He would be considered an "oreo cookie" by their standards.) and they'd start staying the same things themselves. They know how they are. But if you tell a white girl (like my old friend) to stay away from them they go into this, "you are just being racist!" outburst. Just like my friend, it was a bad idea to say anything to her because she made a bigger deal about my "racist beliefs" moreso than her "almost infidelity". :rolleyes:

White women, being the more sympathetic and naive kind of whites, tend to eat up this multiculti bullshit a lot more and a lot of white men know it. There are exceptions like Starr but I am pretty sure she is in the minority. The reason why a lot of good men do nothing is because they get ostracized and sometimes even imprisoned for doing so. This is why for eg. my neighbours whom are a BM/WF couple... why I don't say anything to them. Because if I gave the couple a piece of my mind I would surely be put behind bars or charged with at least some sort of "hate speech". Gotta love this Canadian government. :rolleyes: I just feel so tempted to go up to the white mother with the mulata daughters and say in a very tongue in cheek manner, "aww they look exactly like you."

Though whats done is done... my neighbours are race traitors and have two mulata daughters. I just pretty much avoid them. I don't like my neighbourhood anyway. Mostly fobbed out pakis or sikhs. I don't mind the Hong Kongers in my neighbourhood though. Theres also some Hindu East Indians (perhaps Catholic as well).... I don't get to know 'em since there are mostly fobbed out parents and little kids here.

However if white men actually stood up for themselves, there would be no such thing as these "hate laws". These hate laws are a product of sissy-ass humanitarian self-hating white liberal men after all.

daisy
12-21-2005, 04:29 PM
i just feel so tempted to go up to the white mother with the mulata daughters and say in a very tongue in cheek manner, "aww they look exactly like you."
her offsprings probally do look like her except with darkening pigmentations. canada is part of the anglosphere. she is probally an albino with some kind of jew blood in her
(french or italian jew maybe) and she has reproduced more muded albinos.

raven
12-21-2005, 04:32 PM
i just feel so tempted to go up to the white mother with the mulata daughters and say in a very tongue in cheek manner, "aww they look exactly like you."
her offsprings probally do look like her except with darkening pigmentations. canada is part of the anglosphere. she is probally an albino mixed with french or italian jew and she has reproduced more muded albinos.
ALBINO PRIDE, WORLD WIDE.

This guy is classic. VNN shouldn't have banned him. :D

daisy
12-21-2005, 04:39 PM
well i guess vnnf would have to ban me now that i found out i am one of those white albinos that they breeded french jew blood into.
who would have ever realized that my french indian christian mom was a white jewish decendant from france and spain.

Starr
12-21-2005, 04:44 PM
We are all in the minority it seems. though it has always been amazing to me(or maybe not) that a lot of people are not all that naive about racial matters if they know they are around somebody who is not going to call them a racist for thinking and talking about certain things.

And while women are more sympathetic by nature, I am not so sure that their eating up multiculturalism can be blamed entirely on this. I think it also has to do with women simply being less likely to go against the grain and take an unpopular opinion.


The reason why a lot of good men do nothing is because they get ostracized and sometimes even imprisoned for doing so.

And they absolutely do not want to be thought of or called a racist.

This is why for eg. my neighbours whom are a BM/WF couple... why I don't say anything to them. Because if I gave the couple a piece of my mind I would surely be put behind bars or charged with at least some sort of "hate speech". Gotta love this Canadian government. I just feel so tempted to go up to the white mother with the mulata daughters and say in a very tongue in cheek manner, "aww they look exactly like you."

With people like this it is entirely pointless, anyway. You will just be giving them some kind of moral high ground, and they will feel proud looking down on you from their moral high horse. Standing up to an evil racist, with the "power of love" or some shit.:rolleyes: And of course they have the general opinion of society backing them up on this. Reinforcing their beliefs about how special and enlightened they are.

Daisy is not a guy.:p

B-Pep
12-21-2005, 04:58 PM
From a black nationalist point of view, this type of stuff merely contributes to the slave mentality.

I think the white female mentality that blacks are toys for her amusement, and that she is superior and more beautiful than black females (whether its true or not) is truly the "racism", while white men who don't want their women being rooted by them are not at all.

Many white women date black men not for relationships, but rather out of blind lust and the feeling that they are the superior in the relationship. The writer of the article subtley points this out, and the dumb male coons play along because they too are blinded by lust for white women, although the decent blacks want white women for relationships too (men naturally like light complexiions on women).

This is just another form of slavery. Which is why race mixing doesn't only hurt white people , but also blacks.

Starr
12-21-2005, 05:17 PM
This may apply to some, no doubt, but I don't know how they can feel superior in the relationship when so many of them let the nigger treat them like crap(also indicated in this article)

raven
12-21-2005, 05:33 PM
We are all in the minority it seems. though it has always been amazing to me(or maybe not) that a lot of people are not all that naive about racial matters if they know they are around somebody who is not going to call them a racist for thinking and talking about certain things.
I have noticed this A LOT. I remember at this place I worked at there was one day where it was just three white guys working and no supervisor. I never expected these dudes to have such beliefs... I thought they would be total multicults but then it came out. This one guy was mentioning stuff about blacks, pakis, etc. then the two of us joined in on the convo. It was quite surprising. There are MANY people who are not naive of racial matters... I just think that the majority of people with such beliefs are in the closet and of course are more moderate than the guys at SF and VNN. Like personally for eg. I think I'm moderate in my racial views. I'm not into "white power" or pan-europeanism but I'm conscious of what is going on and I am not politically correct.


And while women are more sympathetic by nature, I am not so sure that their eating up multiculturalism can be blamed entirely on this. I think it also has to do with women simply being less likely to go against the grain and take an unpopular opinion.
Many women are "yes women" who don't go against the grain so I agree with you. A lot of "modern" women try to come off like they are newly empowered and such but the reality of the situation is that they are still yes women.


And they absolutely do not want to be thought of or called a racist.
Yep at one time I felt "ashamed" of being thought of as a "racist." Even now I am not comfortable with being publically labelled a "racist" since that could lead to ostracization. It's like "thought crime."


With people like this it is entirely pointless, anyway. You will just be giving them some kind of moral high ground, and they will feel proud looking down on you from their moral high horse. Standing up to an evil racist, with the "power of love" or some shit.:rolleyes: And of course they have the general opinion of society backing them up on this. Reinforcing their beliefs about how special and enlightened they are.
Yep it is entirely pointless to try to convince them anyway. They were already failed long time ago. I personally feel that it is impossible to ever "get it" unless you have had some underlying beliefs prior. For eg. I was an anti but I sort of had an internal struggle within myself where I had to "supress" any "racist thought." In this society it is such a stigma to be labelled a "racist"... that's why I kept that part of me buried. So for all the antis in the past who have said that "they" were poisoning my mind... I have always held these thoughts... they were just repressed into my unconscious (though I'd be conscious of it at times obviously). It also didn't help that I have always grown up in the Toronto area... that has helped me look at reality.


Daisy is not a guy.:p
Oops my mistake. :D

From a black nationalist point of view, this type of stuff merely contributes to the slave mentality.

I think the white female mentality that blacks are toys for her amusement, and that she is superior and more beautiful than black females (whether its true or not) is truly the "racism", while white men who don't want their women being rooted by them are not at all.

Many white women date black men not for relationships, but rather out of blind lust and the feeling that they are the superior in the relationship. The writer of the article subtley points this out, and the dumb male coons play along because they too are blinded by lust for white women, although the decent blacks want white women for relationships too (men naturally like light complexiions on women).

This is just another form of slavery. Which is why race mixing doesn't only hurt white people , but also blacks.
I agree it is a very racist mindset for white women to view black men as their sex slave toys. But yet in modern day society they don't get penalized for this blatant racism but yet a white man (and in some cases a black man) saying that people should stick to their own kind gets punished with "hate speech"?

As for Blacks, I believe the black parents who bitch out their sons for hooking up with white girls (apparenlty its not uncommon for black parents to protest against IR from what I heard) are honourable parents. Modern-day society is not going to listen to good old fashioned white folks, but black parents are less likely to be silenced and thus its easier for us and them for black parents to speak out.

Vindex
12-22-2005, 01:22 AM
Big deal, just another nigger lover, they are a dime a dozen and cheaper then a penny.

Julae
12-29-2005, 01:29 PM
White men over 40 have lost their waistlines and their zest for life—if they ever had it. They carry resentments, grudges and extra pounds in their basketball bellies. Perhaps a good part of that bloat is unhappiness. Even the thin ones look flabby somehow and deeply aggrieved. They nurse the smallest perceived slight longer than their double shots of Scotch. Surely our culture as much as biology turns them into softer, spongier, less-interesting versions of their youthful selves just at the point where women and black men and other minorities are emerging strong. Society overvalues the white man, leaving him angry and bitter when he realizes, around age 40, that he's not all that.

I greatly enjoy the manner in which the western world's 'racial equality' and 'multi-culturalism' structures that were designed for love and compassion that have now given birth to a more lavish hatred.

raven
12-29-2005, 02:25 PM
And what's really surprising about this institutionalized racism is that the very lavish hatred that you discribed is considered acceptable in modern western society while regular "white racism" makes white people a pariah in their own society. In certain countries, including mine, it can even mean serving jail time.

daisy
12-30-2005, 01:03 AM
institutionalized racism is that the very lavish hatred that you discribed is considered acceptable in modern western society while regular "white racism" makes white people a pariah in their own societyalbinos are being used and abused to get the job done. racism is just an interference because racism makes them stronger. albinos and muds must stay weakened and disoriented.

infoterror
12-30-2005, 05:38 AM
No clue. Her surname is Bakos (which I'm sure isn't jewish) but that still wouldn't prove that she isn't one.

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http://rsl.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsql.cgi?op=search&type=Surname&surname=Bakos

raven
12-30-2005, 02:56 PM
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http://rsl.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsql.cgi?op=search&type=Surname&surname=Bakos
Yeah its popular in Hungary/Slovakia. I saw this awhile back.

Zrinski
12-30-2005, 03:09 PM
Bakos is obviusly Hungarian Bakosz(in english: Bakosh)...

Btw. the article is really disgusting, but funny also. :p

raven
12-30-2005, 03:16 PM
Bakos is obviusly Hungarian Bakosz(in english: Bakosh)...

Btw. the article is really disgusting, but funny also. :p
Yep I knew it was Hungarian. Yes! I did notice some jews do have the surname though. Did the jews in Hungary adopt the name? Perhaps this woman had paternal jewish ancestry in Hungary since she's writing for a NY paper after all. NYC has tons of jews. Though still I don't think she's jewish simply because when was the last time you've seen a jewish girl go with a black guy? That's like a cardinal sin to their culture.

daisy
12-30-2005, 03:22 PM
still i don't think she's jewish simply because when was the last time you've seen a jewish girl go with a black guy? she is probally like me- not jewish yet she has jewish blood.

Atlas
12-30-2005, 03:25 PM
I agree, unfortunately, you can see a lot of white slutty with negroes, but I think it's mainly just for dating, because blacks are supposed to love to party and have fun, or at least more than a white man. However, a girl who really want a serious relationship and kids from a nigger is not that common.

raven
12-30-2005, 03:33 PM
I agree, unfortunately, you can see a lot of white slutty with negroes, but I think it's mainly just for dating, because blacks are supposed to love to party and have fun, or at least more than a white man. However, a girl who really want a serious relationship and kids from a nigger is not that common.
I think BM/WF common-law (living together) is kind of like 5% or something. Marriage less than half that I think. My stats may be wrong, if someone can bring some forth that would be great. Still I think that's too many white women thinking they can get a long-term relationship out of them.

Aryan Imperium
09-21-2008, 08:41 PM
Filthy stinking slut. Further evidence should any need it of how corrupt our race`s women have become.
The Day of the Rope awaits all such race-traitors. Their bodies will be left hanging from the trees as carrion for birds of prey to eat.

Jimbo Gomez
09-21-2008, 08:44 PM
Filthy stinking slut. Further evidence should any need it of how corrupt our race`s women have become.
The Day of the Rope awaits all such race-traitors. Their bodies will be left hanging from the trees as carrion for birds of prey to eat.


That silk tongue of yours must make you quite popular with the ladies.

Petr
09-21-2008, 08:48 PM
Filthy stinking slut. Further evidence should any need it of how corrupt our race`s women have become.
The Day of the Rope awaits all such race-traitors. Their bodies will be left hanging from the trees as carrion for birds of prey to eat.
You stupid loser, you are falling to 000's provocations like the gullible chump you are.


Petr

Aryan Imperium
09-21-2008, 08:51 PM
You stupid loser, you are falling to 000's provocations like the gullible chump you are.


Petr


000 is merely reporting things as they really are in the real world. You should get out a little more Peter and stop hiding away in the synagogue each night.

Hartmann von Aue
09-21-2008, 08:51 PM
This is SPAM - already posted.

I think 000 should be warned against reposting for trolling purposes.

Vindex
09-21-2008, 08:52 PM
In reality most White men in her social circles know shes a walking AID's case and avoid her leaving her no other option but blacks and pathetic white men who will date anything. She is on the bottom rung of quality.

99.9999% of high quality White men stay far away from a white women who they know fucks niggers. Its a fact of life, its the scalet letter they can never live down. So they create a illusion that they prefer blacks over Whites to rationalize that fact unto themselves.

Petr
09-21-2008, 08:53 PM
000 is merely reporting things as they really are in the real world.
Unity of the opposites! AI is perfect fodder for 000's defeatist agitprop.

000 aims to turn all racialists into sad jokes like AI.


Petr

Aryan Imperium
09-21-2008, 08:55 PM
Unity of the opposites! AI is perfect fodder for 000's defeatist agitprop.

000 aims to turn all racialists into sad jokes like AI.


Petr

Then how do you account for the millions of white women in the USA who open their legs for niggers every day of the week?

raven
09-21-2008, 09:06 PM
Then how do you account for the millions of white women in the USA who open their legs for niggers every day of the week?You are exaggerating things. Put down the Interracial Porn DVD. It doesn't reflect reality AI. Do you honestly believe what you just said? I don't know why you give black men so much power with your hate-filled insecure rants. I dare you to have a relationship with a white girl who has slept with a black guy before. You'll see that it's not a big deal and that yes, a woman can remain very decent personality-wise despite being a "race-traitor". You talk like it's fucking Armageddon because white men can't chain down white women anymore (and most men of class back in the "good old days" didn't do that and they treated their wives very well to boot. A gentlemen in the 1950s wouldn't beat his wife for example. Only white trash beat their wives).

Longinus
09-21-2008, 09:22 PM
Has it occurred to anyone that her statement sounds so irritating precisely because it is racially exclusive?

Aryan Imperium
09-21-2008, 09:39 PM
You are exaggerating things. Put down the Interracial Porn DVD. It doesn't reflect reality AI. Do you honestly believe what you just said? I don't know why you give black men so much power with your hate-filled insecure rants. I dare you to have a relationship with a white girl who has slept with a black guy before. You'll see that it's not a big deal and that yes, a woman can remain very decent personality-wise despite being a "race-traitor". You talk like it's fucking Armageddon because white men can't chain down white women anymore (and most men of class back in the "good old days" didn't do that and they treated their wives very well to boot. A gentlemen in the 1950s wouldn't beat his wife for example. Only white trash beat their wives).


Who is talking about wife beating? Is that what gets you going Raven? Your little fantasy, because this is all you keep talking about.
A slut who betrays her race by having indiscriminate sexual intercourse with apemen deserves the rope and that is exactly what they will get one day.
They have sullied themselves for all time.

raven
09-21-2008, 09:58 PM
Who is talking about wife beating? Is that what gets you going Raven? Your little fantasy, because this is all you keep talking about.You're the one who said that women need to be beaten into wifely submission by their husbands.

A slut who betrays her race by having indiscriminate sexual intercourse with apemen deserves the rope and that is exactly what they will get one day. They have sullied themselves for all time.There are single white women who have a thing for fucking black guys exclusively ("Once You Go Black, You Can't Go Back") to fulfill their racist plantation fantasy and yes these girls are trashy. Susan Crain Bakos fits within this category. Though not every white girl who has slept with a black guy(s) fits within that category. Most white girls "go back" contrary to the myth.

Jake Featherston
09-21-2008, 10:00 PM
Who is talking about wife beating?

You, in various other threads. You've said women shouldn't think at all, but just obey orders and produce children, and be beaten if they get out of line. Stuff like that is going to follow you around from thread to thread; you can't post in some vacuum where your outrageous remarks from a week ago are now off-limits.

Starr
09-21-2008, 10:22 PM
There was already an old thread about this. I merged the two. As you can see it was started by Raven back in his more racist days.:222:

There was another thread that is sort of like an update about this particular woman and all of the wonderful diversity that has enriched her life:

http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?t=41009&highlight=Crain+Bakos

Julian Curtis Lee
09-22-2008, 12:06 AM
The thread header is incorrect in referring to this creature as a "woman."

Ahknaton
09-22-2008, 12:45 AM
Into the second glass of wine and glancing longingly at the exit, I wanted to hang that dog myself when he mentioned that his face was flushed—I hadn't noticed—because he'd taken a Viagra "just in case."

What did he think would entice me more: That he assumed sex was probable because I'm a sex journalist—or that he would need chemical help if sex did occur?

I cannot even imagine a black man bungling an attempted seduction in such a sad way.
I can't imagine a White man doing so either, which is why I think this anecdote is fabricated.

raven
09-22-2008, 12:51 AM
How old is Susan Crain Bakos? We know that she's in cougar territory (40+) but that's about it. Good for her that she now understands that she has been romanticizing the Harlem ghetto. She's lucky that the worst she got was a mugging and hitting her head and upper neck on the concrete from a push.

I don't know when she took this picture but I must say that she's pretty good looking for her age. If she didn't have a nasty, shallow personality (yes even a slut needs a decent personality), I'd hit it. Not really into blondes though. I prefer brunettes and (some) redheads.
http://images.picturequest.com/common/detail/49/21/22652149.jpg
She is a Grade A bitch and most cougars are bitches. I don't know where some people get the idea that cougars are so great. Cougars have a very over-inflated sense of worth in the mating game. They think that every young buck is looking to fuck some older woman.

Crowley
09-22-2008, 01:00 AM
Most white girls "go back" contrary to the myth.


It is hard to understand why a white woman would want to partner with a black male. They have to listen to black music, watch basketball games, play the role of a servant to a demanding dark presence, and attend black family functions in black neighborhoods. Where would the comfort zone be?

raven
09-22-2008, 01:12 AM
It is hard to understand why a white woman would want to partner with a black male. They have to listen to black music, watch basketball games, play the role of a servant to a demanding dark presence, and attend black family functions in black neighborhoods. Where would the comfort zone be?I think it's easy to understand. White women will race mix with a black man for three possible reasons:
1) The Black guy has "white interests" and/or "acts white". Probably educated too. These guys have common ground with white women. (Example: My Black friend)
2) She finds him sexually attractive (Example: Usher or any other black guy that looks like him. Let's face it. Men may be more guilty of dating a girl just because she's attractive but women can be guilty of doing the same thing too with guys.) or
3) She fetishizes the black race and the taboo behind going with a black guy (Example: Bakos chasing after black guys in the hood).

Crowley
09-22-2008, 02:15 AM
I think it's easy to understand. White women will race mix with a black man for three possible reasons:
1) The Black guy has "white interests" and/or "acts white". \

Your liberal mind meld falls apart considering most black guys don't "act white".
Nice try though. Have you ever thought of dating a black girl? You come across like one of those pathetic white guys we see more of these days hand in hand with african princesses looking all smug and gangsta. You get to wear a white t-shirt that comes down to your knees like a cute little dress. :)

raven
09-22-2008, 02:25 AM
Your liberal mind meld falls apart considering most black guys don't "act white".That was just one of three possibilities for why a white girl would choose to date a particular black guy. Obviously you haven't read 2 or 3. There are some blacks who "act white". I didn't say that most or all did. You're making an argument out of nothing.

Have you ever thought of dating a black girl? You come across like one of those pathetic white guys we see more of these days hand in hand with african princesses looking all smug and gangsta. You get to wear a white t-shirt that comes down to your knees like a cute little dress. :)No I don't dig black chicks. I love muh white wimminz. How many times have I made this clear already on here that I don't find black women attractive? A dozen + times probably. I thought it was pretty obvious by now that the African American Vernacular I use often is supposed to be tongue-in-cheek. That has been my thing for quite awhile on here (even in raciss days).

Julian Curtis Lee
09-22-2008, 02:41 AM
It is hard to understand why a white woman would want to partner with a black male.
Better not to even try entering that darkness.

harjit
09-22-2008, 02:43 AM
Has it occurred to anyone that her statement sounds so irritating precisely because it is racially exclusive?
Very much so.

In Tokyo (at least in and around the foreign community) you'll meet many Japanese women who say they only date foreign men. Most of us gaijin find that kind of statement mildly disconcerting, and bit of a turn-off.

Starr
09-22-2008, 02:52 AM
I think it's easy to understand. White women will race mix with a black man for three possible reasons:
1) The Black guy has "white interests" and/or "acts white". Probably educated too. These guys have common ground with white women. (Example: My Black friend)
2) She finds him sexually attractive (Example: Usher or any other black guy that looks like him. Let's face it. Men may be more guilty of dating a girl just because she's attractive but women can be guilty of doing the same thing too with guys.) or
3) She fetishizes the black race and the taboo behind going with a black guy (Example: Bakos chasing after black guys in the hood).


Number 1 is very, very rare. Most of them wouldn't look twice at a negro in a suit, they want the gangsta thug.

Negroes like Usher are not representative of the average black male, looks wise, so that does not explain the white girls who have a preference for the types of negroes they see day to day. The ones they are actually going to be dating. It is a media induced attraction that plays upon what many woman are naturally attracted to, rebellious super masculine bad boys. This not only makes white women want to be with them but it also makes younger white males want to be like them. In a different saner era this would be fullfilled in someone like James Dean. If the vast majority of young black males were Carlton (fresh prince of bel air tv show), or Bill Cosby types, no matter what they looked like, you would not see this phenomenon. It is funny really, there are two very different images of black males the media promotes, the civilized well dressed, well behave black male that is "exactly the same" as white folks and the gangsta thug. Too much of the first works towards getting people to see blacks as their equals but works against their level of attractiveness for some young white females.

Crowley
09-22-2008, 03:14 AM
Better not to even try entering that darkness.


I try to put them outside my consciousness as much as possible.

harjit
09-22-2008, 03:21 AM
It is hard to understand why a white woman would want to partner with a black male. They have to listen to black music, watch basketball games, play the role of a servant to a demanding dark presence, and attend black family functions in black neighborhoods. Where would the comfort zone be?

I suppose you can ask this lady where the comfort zone is.


http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/Nov05/Pat-Booker.jpg
Pat Cassano, assistant professor of nutritional sciences, and Ron Booker, associate professor of neurobiology and behavior, are an interracial couple who have been together since she was 19 and he was 20 years old, about 31 years ago.

http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/Nov05/interracial.couples.ssl.html

raven
09-22-2008, 03:24 AM
Number 1 is very, very rare. Most of them wouldn't look twice at a negro in a suit, they want the gangsta thug.I'm sure there would be a lot of white girls interested if they saw a handsome, well-educated, well-mannered intelligent black man. The "good black man" is still desirable to white women. Just look at all the white girls swooning over Obama. 50 Cent may have the muscles and the gangsta cred but I'm sure white women prefer Obama (even though Obama is obviously not ripped and muscular).

Negroes like Usher are not representative of the average black male, looks wise, so that does not explain the white girls who have a preference for the types of negroes they see day to day.Obviously Usher is not representative. But when it comes to white women who fool around with black guys (not the ones who are in serious relationships), white women tend to go for the muscular, athletic types. When a white girl says "ZOMG I LOVE BLACK GUYS!" (what racialists call a "mudshark"), she isn't talking about the average black guy. The average black guy is actually overweight and isn't very muscular. On average black guys are slightly less overweight and slightly more muscular than white men but the average black guy isn't what they are after.

The ones they are actually going to be dating. It is a media induced attraction that plays upon what many woman are naturally attracted to, rebellious super masculine bad boys. This not only makes white women want to be with them but it also makes younger white males want to be like them. In a different saner era this would be fullfilled in someone like James Dean.Yeah the media does milk the black machismo thing. And that goes back to my 3rd reason of racial sexualization. Black men are transformed into these hyper-masculine, virile beasts in the media. At the same time, they don't make white bad asses like James Dean anymore. But overall, the white male is still promoted in the media as the most desirable if you think about it. When it comes to all those "sexiest man alive/of the year" lists in magazines, it's dominated by white guys. Even Usher doesn't hold a candle to Brad Pitt to the average white girl. Usher might not even hold a candle to Justin Timberlake even. I mean let's face it. Black men don't have the most appealing faces. It's the physique that the most desirable black males have going for them. Usher has the physique sure but Brad Pitt and Justin Timberlake have relatively good physiques anyway AND they have much better faces.

If the vast majority of young black males were Carlton (fresh prince of bel air tv show), or Bill Cosby types, no matter what they looked like, you would not see this phenomenon. It is funny really, there are two very different images of black males the media promotes, the civilized well dressed, well behave black male that is "exactly the same" as white folks and the gangsta thug. Too much of the first works towards getting people to see blacks as their equals but works against their level of attractiveness for some young white females.Carlton Banks is just geeky and isn't seen as masculine enough to be desirable. A black man can still be intelligent, well-educated, etc. and still be attractive. Obama is a prime example though there are many others. Obama's appeal to white women is all about his charisma and intelligence. No gangstuh BS or machismo.

Aryan Imperium
09-22-2008, 05:55 AM
[QUOTE]You're the one who said that women need to be beaten into wifely submission by their husbands.

You obviously don`t read too well. Didn`t the white man teach you how to read?
Go back to my thread and show me where I advocated the BEATING of wives into submission!
Do that and then retract your lie!


There are single white women who have a thing for fucking black guys exclusively ("Once You Go Black, You Can't Go Back") to fulfill their racist plantation fantasy and yes these girls are trashy. Susan Crain Bakos fits within this category. Though not every white girl who has slept with a black guy(s) fits within that category. Most white girls "go back" contrary to the myth.

Anyone who has unnatural relations with a nigger is commiting an act of bestiality and there is only one suitable punishment-a painful death as a warning to other race-traitor sluts.
Our genes do not belong to us but to the race. We hold them temporarily as custodians and we are answerable to our ancestors and more so to our descendents for their misuse.

Aryan Imperium
09-22-2008, 05:57 AM
You, in various other threads. You've said women shouldn't think at all, but just obey orders and produce children, and be beaten if they get out of line. Stuff like that is going to follow you around from thread to thread; you can't post in some vacuum where your outrageous remarks from a week ago are now off-limits.


I thought that it was just the nigger Raven who couldn`t read too well.

I suggest like Raven you go back to my thread and show me exactly where I said that wives should be BEATEN into submission.

Do that and then retract your support for Raven`s lie!

Sudaev
09-22-2008, 06:10 AM
Why is this thread still rolling?

Starr
09-22-2008, 06:37 AM
Raven, Obama is all things to all people. He is presented as cool, young, intelligent, different, sexy, an agent of change, a Messiah figure,etc. If he were the exact same person and politiican but not promoted in this certain way, women wouldn't think much of anything about him. Women also swooned greatly over John Kennedy(ugly, imo) and maybe Bill Clinton to a lesser extent. Both were also media darlings like Obama.

Aryan Imperium
09-24-2008, 08:52 PM
I see that I have been vindicated in that both Featherston and Raven have failed to answer my challenge in post 80 where I asked them both to provide evidence to support their false allegation that I condone the BEATING of women and children.
The Aryan thing would be for Featherston to apologise. Raven is a nigger so I do not expect the same courtsey from him.