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Crusader
05-26-2007, 08:04 AM
Thursday, May 24, 2007

Here is an exhaustive list proving, once and for all, that the radical homosexual movement in the United States is a Jewish movement. Jews created it and run it from top to bottom. They are pushing the perversion and degeneracy that is spreading disease, sin and sickness through America like a wildfire.

-The West



Larry Kramer -- co-founder of "Act Up," a homosexual/AIDS activist organization; co-founder of the Gay Men's Health Crisis

Alan Klein -- co-founder of group ACT UP, co-founder of group Queer Nation, National Communications Director and chief spokesperson for the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD]. Klein also co-founded the successful multimedia campaign STOPDRLAURA.COM

Arnie Kantrowitz -- co-founder of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD].

Jonathan D. Katz -- founded and chairs the Harvey Milk Institute, the largest queer studies institute in the world. A long time queer political activist, was a co-founder of Queer Nation, [the key San Francisco branch].

Harvey Fierstein -- film actor [Mrs. Doubtfire]; well-known gay activist.

Moisés Kaufman -- playwright and film director [The Laramie Project].

Israel Fishman -- founder of the Gay Liberation Caucus in 1970 [now known as the Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transgendered Round Table of the American Library Association], the world's first gay professional organization.

Bella Abzug and Edward Koch -- both Jewish -- the first members of the U.S. House of Representatives to introduce legislation banning discrimination based on sexual orientation [1974].

Winnie Stachelberg -- political director, Human Rights Campaign [HRC]

Michael S. Aronowitz, The New York Log Cabin Republicans.

Tony Kushner -- gay activist; Tony and 1993 Pulitzer Prize-winning playwright [for Angels in America, 1992].

Len Hirsch -- president of the GLBT federal government employees group, GLOBE.

Meg Moritz, Ph.D. -- a Director and member of the Executive Committee of GLAAD.
Barbara Raab -- an NBC-TV producer; a "Jewish lesbian feminist journalist, writer."

Charles Kaiser [?] -- author & founding member of National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association [NLGJA].

David Goodstein -- owner/publisher of the gay magazine The Advocate [1975-1985]; co-founder of the National Gay Rights Lobby.

Judy Wieder -- Editor-in-chief, The Advocate gay magazine.

Alison Bechdel [?] -- cartoonist creator and author of the bi-weekly comic strip "Dykes to Watch Out For."

Kevin Koffler -- Editor-in-chief, Genre gay magazine.

Garrett Glaser -- National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association [NLGJA] national board member.

Ronald Gold -- reporter for Variety; a leader in the fight to overturn the American Psychiatric Association's policy that homosexuality is an illness.

Magnus Hirschfeld [d. 1935], early gay rights activist in Germany; founded one of the first gay rights organizations, the Scientific Humanitarian Committee; coined the term "transvestism"; fled Nazi Germany.

Fred Hochberg -- deputy administrator, U.S. Small Business Administration; co-chair of the Human Rights Campaign [HRC].

Michael Berman -- member, Human Rights Campaign Board of Directors. Mitchell Gold -- HRC Board Marty Lieberman -- HRC BoardAndy Linsky -- HRC BoardDana Perlman -- HRC BoardAbby Rubenfeld -- HRC Board Andrew Tobias -- HRC Board Lara Schwartz -- Senior Counsel, HRC Heather Wellman -- HRC Field Coordinator Dan Furmansky -- HRC Senior Field Organizer, West Sally Green -- HRC Associate Field Director

Rick Rosendall [?] -- President, Gay & Lesbian Activists Alliance of Washington, DC.

Barney Frank -- member of U.S. Congress; helped create non-discriminatory employment policies in all U.S. federal agencies

Kerry Lobel -- executive director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force.

Robin Margolis, American coordinator of the Bi Women's Cultural Alliance and author [Bisexuality: A Practical Guide].

Evan Wolfson, Senior Staff Attorney, Lambda Legal Defense and Education Fund -- and -- the executive director of Freedom to Marry.

Jennifer Einhorn -- Communications Director, Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD] Nancy Alpert [?] -- Treasurer, GLAAD Judy Gluckstern -- Board of Directors, GLAAD.Stephen M. Jacoby -- Board of Directors, GLAAD.Matt Riklin -- Board, GLAADCarol Rosenfeld -- Board, GLAAD.William Weinberger -- Board, GLAAD Tanya Wexler -- Board, GLAAD. David Huebner -- GLAAD Counsel.

Richard Goldstein -- Village Voice writer on gay culture and politics

Ron Schlittler -- Director of Field & Policy, Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays [PFLAG].

Craig Ziskin -- Deputy Director of Development, PFLAG.

Debra Weill -- Senior Field & Policy Coordinator, PFLAG.

Dody Goldstein -- Board of Directors, PFLAG.

David Horowitz -- Board of Directors, PFLAG.

Shawn Frank -- Board of Directors, PFLAG.

Leon Weinstein -- Chair, Nominating Committee, PFLAG.

Kate Kendell [?], National Center for Lesbian Rights.

Gayle Rubin -- lesbian author/activist.

Hilary Rosen -- a founding member of the Gay and Lesbian Victory Fund; former board co-chair of the Human Rights Campaign.

Roz Richter, American attorney and activist.

Bob Kunst -- long-time activist in gay and Jewish causes.

"Gay, Lesbian & Straight Education Network" [GLSEN]. Board co-chairs: Marty Seldman, president

"National Gay & Lesbian Task Force" [NGLTF]. Board co-chairs: ..... Rachel Rosen in Santa Fe, N.M Dave Fleischer -- Director of Training [political training], NGLTF. Craig Hoffman -- Board of Directors, NGLTF. Beth Zemsky -- Board, NGLTF. Marsha C. Botzer -- Treasurer, NGLTF. Jeff Levi -- first, Levi was NGTF's lobbyist, early 1980s [NGTF became NGLTF in 1985]. Later, he was NGLTF executive director.

Bill Rubenstein, J.D. '86, developed the ACLU Lesbian and Gay Rights Project

Martin Duberman -- author/historian; founded the Center for Lesbian and Gay Studies at the City University of New York.

Ben Schatz '81, J.D. '85, is executive director of the Gay and Lesbian Medical Foundation.

Kevin Schaub, American; Executive Director and Dean of the Harvey Milk Institute in San Francisco, the world's largest center for queer studies.

Sarah Schulman [1958- ], American playwright, novelist, and activist [one of the founders of the Lesbian Avengers, a direct-action lesbian rights organization].

Susan Spielman -- principal/head of Common Ground, an education/consulting firm specializing in workplace sexual orientation education; her company has worked with hundreds of U.S. organizations, helping them to implement domestic partner benefits plans; co-author of the book Straight Talk About Gays in the Workplace.

Gertrude Stein -- wrote the first openly lesbian novel, "Q.E.D.," in 1903, but it was only published posthumously in 1950.

Rikki Streicher (1925-1994), American activist and businesswoman.

Michael Goff -- founded Out magazine in 1992.

Paulette Goodman -- founder of local chapter [Washington D.C.] of PFLAG and served as President of the National PFLAG organization from 1988-1992.

Jeffrey Newman, American, president and COO of the Gay Financial Network; president and CEO of out.com.

Jim Levin -- New York gay historian.

Barrett Brick -- GLAA [Gay and Lesbian Activists Alliance] Treasurer.

Robin Tyler -- American comedian [born Arlene Chernick] who was the first openly gay comic in North America; Tyler is also an activist who was the stage producer for the first three gay marches on Washington and the national protest coordinator for the "Stop Dr. Laura" campaign; she produces women's comedy and music festivals, and operates a lesbian travel-tour company.

Dr. Bruce Voeller [1935?-1994] [?] American gay rights activist, molecular biologist, physiologist, and AIDS researcher (pioneer in the use of nonoxynol-9 as a spermicide); cofounder and first executive director of the National Gay Task Force; creator of the Mariposa Foundation [an AIDS prevention research organization].

Mark Elderkin [?] -- co-founded Gay.com.

Leroy Aarons -- American professor, journalist, and founder of the National Gay and Lesbian Journalists Association (1990).

Dr. Donald I. Abrams -- American physician, HIV expert, medical marijuana researcher, and past president of the Gay and Lesbian Medical Association.

Johnny Abush (1952-2000) -- [Canadian]; archivist of the International Jewish GBLT Archives.

Roberta Achtenberg [1950- ]; civil rights lawyer and federal official; appointed as Assistant Secretary for Fair Housing and Equal Opportunity by President Bill Clinton in 1993.

Miriam Ben-Shalom [1948- ], American Army Reserves drill sergeant and gay activist; in 1986 she won a ten-year legal battle with the Reserves when a court ordered her reinstatement; founder of the Gay, Lesbian, and Bisexual Veterans Association [GLBVA] in 1990, serving as its first president.

Larry Brinkin, American gay activist who brought the first domestic partnership lawsuit [against Southern Pacific Railroad, 1982].

Rob Eichberg, American psychologist, co-creator of National Coming Out Day [October 11th].

Scott Evertz, American; in April 2001, President Bush appointed him to serve as the Director of the White House Office of National AIDS Policy [ONAP].

Gene Falk [?, Jewish name], American business executive; Senior Vice President of the Showtime Digital Media Group; part of the team that launched and marketed the U.S. TV series Queer as Folk; Chair of the Board of Directors of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD].

Surina Kahn -- American lesbian activist.

Larry Kessler -- founding director in 1983 of the AIDS Action Committee of Massachusetts, the largest AIDS support organization in New England.

Kathy Levinson -- American investor and philanthropist; serves on the board of PlanetOut; also on NGLTF Board of Directors.

Judith Light -- actress, activist for gay causes.

David Mixner -- gay activist, political consultant; co-founder of the Municipal Elections Committee of Los Angeles [MECLA], a group of wealthy gays and lesbians who became influential in local politics; president Bill Clinton's Special Liaison to the Gay-Lesbian Community.

Dan Savage -- American author of gay-themed books [The Kid: What Happened After My Boyfriend and I Decided to Go Get Pregnant; Skipping Towards Gomorrah: The Seven Deadly Sins and the Pursuit of Happiness in America] and gay-themed- sex-advice columnist [Savage Love].

Susan Schuman, American executive vice-president and general manager of the Planet Out gay and lesbian online service.

Scott Seomin, American entertainment media coordinator for the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation [GLAAD].

Jason Serinus [Jay Guy Nassberg] -- founder and coordinator of the Lavender Healing Network; a former gay activist with the New York chapter of the Gay Liberation Front.

David Sine [?] -- American CEO of C1TV, the first U.S. gay and lesbian cable TV network.

Rex Wockner -- longtime gay, American journalist who has reported news for the gay press since 1985.

Jack Fritscher -- became Editor in Chief of Drummer gay magazine [1977].

Leslie Feinberg [1949- ], American trade unionist, transgender activist and author [Transgender Warriors: Making History from Joan of Arc to RuPaul].

Allan Ginsburg - late Jewish poet and leading member of North American Man Boy Love Association
[url]http://newsfromthewest.blogspot.com/...is-run-by.html[/url]

SlagMaster
05-26-2007, 08:17 AM
Does this mean JEW(s) want to give me a blow Job ???

Zubenelgenubi
05-26-2007, 08:41 AM
Nope.

.......

Osmium14
05-26-2007, 08:46 AM
That link is broken. Here's the full link: http://newsfromthewest.blogspot.com/2007/05/radical-homosexual-movement-is-run-by.html

Angler
05-26-2007, 11:47 AM
the Harvey Milk Institute, the largest queer studies institute in the world
"Harvey Milk" -- LOL, that sounds disgusting.

Autoreduction
05-26-2007, 01:05 PM
Oh no! J00z! :deadhorse:

Starr
06-08-2007, 07:33 PM
Ronald Gold -- reporter for Variety; a leader in the fight to overturn the American Psychiatric Association's policy that homosexuality is an illness.

And to get the natural aversion to it, ie. "homophobia" declared a mental illness certainly. The whole reversing of this was very harmful to people's thinking, not to mention what a great tool it has been.

A little bit of information on Ed Koch(lots of pun in that name:rofl: ) and homosexuals:

He issued an executive order prohibiting all discrimination against homosexuals by City employees. A second executive order binding suppliers of the City to the same standards was eventually struck down by court order insofar as it applied to religious organizations, which were exempted from civil rights legislation by State law. John Cardinal O'Connor and the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of New York were participants in the lawsuit against the executive order.

In 1986, Mayor Koch signed a gay rights ordinance for the city after the City Council passed the measure (on March 20), following several failed attempts by that body to approve such legislation. Despite his overall pro-gay-rights stance, he nonetheless backed up the New York City Health Department's decision to shut down the city's gay bathhouses in 1985 in response to concerns over the spread of AIDS. The enactment of the gay-rights measure the following year placed the city in a dilemma, as it apparently meant that the bathhouses would have to be re-opened because many heterosexual "sex clubs" — most notably Plato's Retreat — were in operation in the city at the time, and allowing them to remain open while keeping the bathhouses shuttered would have been a violation of the newly-adopted anti-discrimination law. The Health Department, with Koch's approval, reacted by ordering the heterosexual clubs, including Plato's Retreat, to close as well (Plato's Retreat then moved to Fort Lauderdale, Florida, where it reopened under the new name "Plato's Repeat").

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Koch#Political_stance

He is at least consistantly pro homosexual:

on gay pride parades in Israel:

The leaders of all three religions who protested the right of gays and lesbians to rally and parade should bow their heads in shame, particularly the ultra-Orthodox Jewish community

http://www.nypress.com/19/47/news&columns/opinion.cfm

Straight Satan
06-08-2007, 07:43 PM
What isn't run by Jews?

They would have run the Nazi party in Germany, if they could.

il ragno
06-08-2007, 07:49 PM
"Harvey Milk" -- LOL, that sounds disgusting.

Worse than Army Reserve drill sergeant "Miriam Ben-Shalom"??

I dunno..... I think any man who can stick his tumescence inside the Sarge - even if only for ten harrowing seconds, to win a bet - officially becomes a lesbian on the spot, and automatically qualifies for a low-interest housing loan under the Fucked-Up Sexual Orientation Act, a/k/a the Frank-Foley Bill.

Starr
06-08-2007, 07:51 PM
when it comes to any kind of anti-white and other movements that attack certain western traditions, they always seem to be heavily involved, much more so that any other particular groups. I don't know how certain people could deny this.(looking at you, ix)

Odysseus
06-08-2007, 07:57 PM
And to get the natural aversion to it, ie. "homophobia" declared a mental illness certainly.

There is a big difference between homophobia and natural 'aversion' to it. Homophobes hate and fear gays, whereas those of us who are just naturally averted to homosexuality (heterosexuals) just find the practice gross. But gays find penis with into vagina sex gross, so they're naturally averted to heterosexual sex too. I wonder if there is any heterophobia?

that guy
06-08-2007, 10:09 PM
Thursday, May 24, 2007

Here is an exhaustive list proving, once and for all, that the radical homosexual movement in the United States is a Jewish movement. Jews created it and run it from top to bottom.
You might be right, but like many other WNs (or netzis, or crypto-netzis, or whatnot), you seem to use terms that you don't really comprehend (e.g. terms like 'proving', and 'exhaustive').

A decent list wouldn't be a list of Jews; rather, it would be a list of the gay movement/leadership, with reference to who's Jewish and who's not. That would be 'proof'. That would be 'exhaustive'.

Starr
06-08-2007, 11:09 PM
There is a big difference between homophobia and natural 'aversion' to it. Homophobes hate and fear gays, whereas those of us who are just naturally averted to homosexuality (heterosexuals) just find the practice gross. But gays find penis with into vagina sex gross, so they're naturally averted to heterosexual sex too. I wonder if there is any heterophobia?


I don't think there are a whole lot of people who fear homosexuality. There is a fear, but it is not for the homosexual, as much as it is a fear of a moral breakdown in standards that results in part from the acceptance, normalization and promotion of perverse lifestyles. Homosexuality being the most visible to some people. Actual "hate" for homosexual individuals seems to mostly be a religious thing. Though people may begin to feel hate for a group of people whose loud presence seems to have a detrimental effect on their society. "homophobia' is nothing but a faulty label to write of what are very reasonable concerns and an attempt to make it look like something is wrong with people who have these concerns. Very dishonest tactic that you see replayed in many different areas to attempt to shut up people who don't like the road we are on.

If homosexuals wanted to truly be accepted and respected it would seem to me that they would act in a way to earn respect rather than throwing their perversion in everyone's face. They incite their own trouble with some of the stuff they engage in and some of them have to be aware of this and are probably doing it for a reason.

Isra'il Yahya
06-08-2007, 11:29 PM
Homosexuality while being something that should be kept isolated from the general society is ONLY one of the important issues. We have a hypocritical society that on the one hand teaches compassion, chastity, and respect, yet also allows wildly disgusting, horrid behavior on the other end of the spectrum.

Of course the radical homosexual movement is run by Jews. Who tolerates it? Who has always been far too tolerant for a long time? Who often plays hand in hand with them to benefit from all this social degradation? The wealthy, morally corrupt predominantly Anglo-Saxon upper strata of society. While not to rest the blame solely upon them, as there are good people among both groups, the perverse and degenerate among all these groups have to be stopped. Just as the Russians do, so should we follow their example. The good should among them should join us to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Mike
06-08-2007, 11:44 PM
What you are describing is not so much a big difference, but rather a spectrum. Nothing about despising homosexuality, even strongly, is really that surprising or worrisome. I doubt that such a thing as a "homophobe" even exists. I chuckle at your sex-orientation relativism. Sorry, but ramming your buddy's ass is not equivalent to having normal sex with a woman, on any level.

Homophobia is not a disease, it is a tool of political reform and cultural subversion. The word "homophobia" was created in order to stigmatize the natural feelings of normal people. It's part of the larger project of outlawing "politically incorrect" thoughts. The bogus concepts of "hate crimes" and "racism/phobia/etc." are pushed in law and psychology respectively.

BTW - I despise the etymology of "homophobia". From the Greek, it should mean "fear of the same". People should have a toehold on a language before they run off coining words from it.

There is a big difference between homophobia and natural 'aversion' to it. Homophobes hate and fear gays, whereas those of us who are just naturally averted to homosexuality (heterosexuals) just find the practice gross. But gays find penis with into vagina sex gross, so they're naturally averted to heterosexual sex too. I wonder if there is any heterophobia?

Mentious
06-09-2007, 01:10 AM
There is a big difference between homophobia and natural 'aversion' to it. Homophobes hate and fear gays, whereas those of us who are just naturally averted to homosexuality (heterosexuals) just find the practice gross.
Actually, there is really no such thing as "homophobia" in any meaningful sense. It is an invented and aggressive gay propaganda term designed to intimidate good people.

Gay propagandists want to label ALL aversion to homosexuality as a "phobia," i.e. an "irrational fear," i.e. a "mental illness." This is quite bizarre and disgusting, turning everything on it's head. (Turning everything on it's head; making everything backward, is a primordially gay thing to do.)

"Homophobia" is a vicious propaganda word, nonsensical, and smears morally wholesome people. I'll bet it would be hard to find anyone who actually has a "phobia" about homosexuals in the clinical sense of what a "phobia" means. Even strong dislike of them, and strong aversion to them, are normal and morally healthy, and represent an instinctive desire to remain uncorrupted.

In their vicious a and irrational propaganda war against the wholesome mind, they will also be classifying "strong dislike," or even any dislike, as "hate." The word hate is constantly misused. Disgust, aversion, disagreement, dislike, being repelled, being disturbed -- none of these are "hate." Even if they were, hate is just one of the human emotions and trying to outlaw it's expression doesn't make any more sense than trying to outlaw the expression of any other human emotion.

With their manufactured word "homophobia," gays seek to cow everyone into accepting the normalization of perversion.

Keystone
06-09-2007, 01:20 AM
You might be right, but like many other WNs (or netzis, or crypto-netzis, or whatnot), you seem to use terms that you don't really comprehend (e.g. terms like 'proving', and 'exhaustive').

A decent list wouldn't be a list of Jews; rather, it would be a list of the gay movement/leadership, with reference to who's Jewish and who's not. That would be 'proof'. That would be 'exhaustive'.
Yeah, but you guys are supposed to be the "Light Unto the Nations." What's with all the Jew homos, atheists, pornographers and edgy producers of movies and TV?

That's the official spiel you get when the "chosen" doctrine is questioned. "We're not 'chosen' because we're better than the gentiles---we're chosen to show the True God of Creation to everyone..." etc..., ad nauseum.

Bullshit.


Bunch of bullshit.

that guy
06-09-2007, 04:04 AM
Yeah, but you guys are supposed to be the "Light Unto the Nations." What's with all the Jew homos, atheists, pornographers and edgy producers of movies and TV?

That's the official spiel you get when the "chosen" doctrine is questioned. "We're not 'chosen' because we're better than the gentiles---we're chosen to show the True God of Creation to everyone..." etc..., ad nauseum.

Bullshit.


Bunch of bullshit.
If you judge Jews with the expectation that they are chosen to show the true god of creation / to be light unto the nations, they fall short, this is true. Counting me as one of the guys that gave you such false expectations is debatable, though, but I guess I'm a bit closer genetically to some such guys than you are.

Mike
06-09-2007, 01:28 PM
Yeah, but you guys are supposed to be the "Light Unto the Nations." What's with all the Jew homos, atheists, pornographers and edgy producers of movies and TV?Actually guy offers one good piece of constructive criticism:

A decent list wouldn't be a list of Jews; rather, it would be a list of the gay movement/leadership, with reference to who's Jewish and who's not. That would be 'proof'. That would be 'exhaustive'.This basically is a reasonable statement. What is needed is perhaps not exhaustive but at least thorough; perhaps not proof* but at least compelling.

The NA used to maintain and publish an up-to-date article called Who Rules America? on the Jewish control of the corporations that was thorough wrt the highest levels of the media and widely regarded as compelling. In fact I saw this document being referenced by non-WNs. Another outstanding document is Amren's The Color of Crime. Such white papers (no pun intended) make the cases we need to make. The list we have on this thread indicates a good deal of research, and is strongly suggestive, and does give weight to the argument. Maybe the next step is to turn it into a white paper.

^*Due to the complexity of the issues, I am not sure it's realistic to strive for a "proof". The best we can do discover the bare facts, and offer a judicious amount of interpretation as to how they fit together. The enemy's tactic is not so much to dispute the bare facts as to impugn the motives of the authors, but that's a whole other story.

Carlos Danger
06-09-2007, 01:53 PM
Jews know that a society which tolerates men buttsecksing each other is unlikely to begin persecuting Jews

This is why Jews are so safe and popular in places like Afghanistan and Pakistan

Hakluyt
06-09-2007, 02:35 PM
"Harvey Milk" -- LOL, that sounds disgusting.
Milk is a gentile surname.

Autoreduction
06-09-2007, 08:13 PM
There is a big difference between homophobia and natural 'aversion' to it. Homophobes hate and fear gays, whereas those of us who are just naturally averted to homosexuality (heterosexuals) just find the practice gross. But gays find penis with into vagina sex gross, so they're naturally averted to heterosexual sex too. I wonder if there is any heterophobia?
To find the practice "gross" and not being sexually attracted to it is certainly not the same thing.

Isra'il Yahya
06-09-2007, 10:07 PM
To find the practice "gross" and not being sexually attracted to it is certainly not the same thing.

Many of the sexual acts that homosexuals participate in are gross. There is nothing normal about putting gerbils into another person.

Autoreduction
06-11-2007, 02:20 PM
Many of the sexual acts that homosexuals participate in are gross. There is nothing normal about putting gerbils into another person.
many sexual acts heterosexuals participate in are gross, no less. Gerbils?

Zubenelgenubi
06-11-2007, 05:14 PM
Many of the sexual acts that homosexuals participate in are gross. There is nothing normal about putting gerbils into another person.

LOL. South Park isn't real.

Isra'il Yahya
06-17-2007, 03:35 AM
LOL. South Park isn't real.

They really did that often during the 1970s.

Zubenelgenubi
06-17-2007, 03:50 AM
They really did that often during the 1970s.
Evidence please.

Autoreduction
06-17-2007, 01:14 PM
Evidence please.
While I am pretty certain he will be unable to provide any reliable evidence, I second this notion.

Richard Parker
06-17-2007, 01:25 PM
Jews know that a society which tolerates men buttsecksing each other is unlikely to begin persecuting Jews

This is why Jews are so safe and popular in places like Afghanistan and Pakistan
Such great model nations. People who encourage discrimination against gays (or Jews for that matter) should be careful what they wish for.

Richard Parker
06-17-2007, 01:34 PM
Yeah, but you guys are supposed to be the "Light Unto the Nations." What's with all the Jew homos, atheists, pornographers and edgy producers of movies and TV?

That's the official spiel you get when the "chosen" doctrine is questioned. "We're not 'chosen' because we're better than the gentiles---we're chosen to show the True God of Creation to everyone..." etc..., ad nauseum.
A Japanese chick I was talking to a while ago made a comment about what a cultural barrenland America would have been if not for blacks, Jews and gays.

She it is atypical and has a lot of ties with America... the average Japanese barely knows what Jew is. But I was still surprised, since I hadn't said anything to provoke it. I did chuckle when she said it, thinking about my "racy" online acquaintances on the Phora and MSF.

Berianidze
06-17-2007, 03:15 PM
Our local news-caster supposedly went to the hospital because he got one (a gerbil) lodged in his anus. I don't know if it's true or not, but it's a local urban legend.

Autoreduction
06-17-2007, 05:22 PM
Our local news-caster supposedly went to the hospital because he got one (a gerbil) lodged in his anus. I don't know if it's true or not, but it's a local urban legend.
It seems very much like an urban myth. And even if true, it hardly proves any point about homosexuals stuffing gerbils up their asses.

Zubenelgenubi
06-17-2007, 07:08 PM
It seems like the sort of thing a few stupid people might try, although stories of these instances are still likely to be myths. However, the claim that it was common practice among the gay subculture of the 1970s to insert small mammals with claws and teeth into their rectums is just a wee bit extraordinary.

Winston
06-17-2007, 07:37 PM
The gerbil/anus thing was an urban legend featuring Richard Gere.

Carlos Danger
06-17-2007, 10:28 PM
http://www.snopes.com/risque/homosex/gerbil.asp

Berianidze
06-17-2007, 11:04 PM
It seems very much like an urban myth. And even if true, it hardly proves any point about homosexuals stuffing gerbils up their asses.
I don't know, we should ask Worker&Parasite.

economically viable
06-18-2007, 12:40 AM
The word "homophobia" was created in order to stigmatize the natural feelings of normal people.

So is "faggot"...

Empress Cheesatine
09-08-2007, 12:22 AM
Actually, there is really no such thing as "homophobia" in any meaningful sense. It is an invented and aggressive gay propaganda term designed to intimidate good people.

Gay propagandists want to label ALL aversion to homosexuality as a "phobia," i.e. an "irrational fear," i.e. a "mental illness." This is quite bizarre and disgusting, turning everything on it's head. (Turning everything on it's head; making everything backward, is a primordially gay thing to do.)

"Homophobia" is a vicious propaganda word, nonsensical, and smears morally wholesome people. I'll bet it would be hard to find anyone who actually has a "phobia" about homosexuals in the clinical sense of what a "phobia" means. Even strong dislike of them, and strong aversion to them, are normal and morally healthy, and represent an instinctive desire to remain uncorrupted.

In their vicious a and irrational propaganda war against the wholesome mind, they will also be classifying "strong dislike," or even any dislike, as "hate." The word hate is constantly misused. Disgust, aversion, disagreement, dislike, being repelled, being disturbed -- none of these are "hate." Even if they were, hate is just one of the human emotions and trying to outlaw it's expression doesn't make any more sense than trying to outlaw the expression of any other human emotion.

With their manufactured word "homophobia," gays seek to cow everyone into accepting the normalization of perversion.

You hit the nail on the head. Its the adult version of children being called names for not being cool enough. No more, no less. Its a sophomoric tactic which is shockingly successful.

Empress Cheesatine
09-08-2007, 12:25 AM
So, Jews flock to counterculture movements the way Arab Muslims flock to bombings. Is this a pattern or?

Richard Parker
09-08-2007, 12:36 AM
So, Jews flock to counterculture movements the way Arab Muslims flock to bombings. Is this a pattern or?
Thanks for bumping this thread, it was exactly a topic I was discussing with Commander (fightglobalists).

Certainly a lot of Jews in that list in the OP. But like Guy says in a later post, to really constitute evidence you'd need an exhaustive list of gay leaders and activists, and then check off who is Jewish and who isn't, rather than just a list of Jews in the gay movement.

Starr
09-08-2007, 01:14 AM
I am not posting this, of course, as a reponse to Harjit's post(as it does not contain the mentioned information), but I found this article, from a Rabbi interesting. He talks about why jews should support the homosexual movement, even with it being in conflict with their religious laws:

http://www.jlaw.com/Articles/jewspublic.html

Now comes the difficulty: Do we, as Religious Jews, seek to grant equal civil rights to all or should we join hands with those groups that seek to deny political rights to those engaging in a consensual, but immoral, activity. It requires nearly an act of prophesy to determine which position is in our best long term interest. Frankly, this writer is inclined to answer that we should err on the side of more political freedom, rather than less.[9] The fact is that many of the non-Jewish groups that seek to curtail the political rights of those who deviate from the "Judeo-Christian" ethic, have historically been the profound enemy of the Jewish community.

Thus we are confronted by a set of difficult choices:
We can politically join with those who practice immoral acts to protect our own political future; or
We can associate with those who have oppressed (and murdered) us in the past, (and who we fear will oppress us in the future) to make illegal an activity that we agree is immoral; or
We can decline to publicly involve ourselves in this dispute and adopt an institutional policy of silence while not actively opposing civil rights to all.

I would suggest that, as a matter of political expedience and survival, that the best path for Religious Jews is to generally favor (and certainly not oppose) granting civil rights and political freedom to all,

We must realize that the political freedoms granted to minority religious communities through laws which prohibit religious, racial, and sexual discrimination in commerce are quite vital to the economic survival of Judaism in America.

I feel that it is a mistaken approach to Religious Jewish public policy. I say this not because the prohibitions involved in homosexual activity are unclear or minor from a Jewish perspective (they are neither); but rather because the public policy decision to seek to deny political rights is fraught with many practical dangers like the proverbial double-edged sword, this weapon, once unsheathed in battle, can well be used to do Judaism generally and Religious Judaism specifically profound harm.

Keystone
09-08-2007, 01:28 AM
I am not posting this, of course, as a reponse to Harjit's post(as it does not contain the mentioned information), but I found this article, from a Rabbi interesting. He talks about why jews should support the homosexual movement, even with it being in conflict with their religious laws:

http://www.jlaw.com/Articles/jewspublic.html
From the same article:

Certainly, traditional Judaism would oppose a law that seeks to give homosexuals a preferred place in the legal or social spectrum. Thus, school curricula that teach the moral equivalency of homosexuality, governmental attempts to redefine marriage to include homosexual relations and governmental attempts to prohibit religious organizations from declining to hire overt homosexuals should be opposed.<A href="http://www.jlaw.com/Articles/jewspublic.html#4">[4] Merely because we favor the decriminalization of what we religious insist is odious conduct and the granting of civil rights for those who engage in such conduct does not mean that, in the name of religious freedom we need to support the placement of such conduct in a privileged position within society


Which sounds a lot like many conservative Christian sects. Whether the Jews put a spell on them to believe this is another question.

WFHermans
09-08-2007, 09:53 AM
Jews promote homosexuality because then they can legally rape little boys. See http://www.thephora.net/forum/showthread.php?p=433800#post433800