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Eisenhans
12-22-2005, 06:53 PM
I have question for all you communists out there: Why? Now before you flame me and brand me infedel, I want you to hear me out and answer me in a civilized manner.
Why communism? Or rather, to be more specific, why this "teenage revolution" communism? What do you see that makes a difference when you type the word AmeriKKKa or say "bu5h n33ds 2 di3 !!!11?" I can understand that you believe in communism, and I, as a former communist, respect that, but I do not understand how you can practice it in the exact way you are preaching as the evils of capitalism (for instance, you are using the internet, a computer, and wearing clothes and eating food-all of which come from corporations which produce these things with you little "underlings" in mind).
So, why?
Billy Score
12-22-2005, 09:55 PM
Well since this is the SOCIALIST paradise, i think the question would by "why socialism?"
I do not use terms like "Amerikkka" etc, that is inane and childish and i despise the Che shirters that infest marxist organizations. I think anyone with half a brain can see this much. But why capitalism? What is the basis of capitalism? Profit and more profit and more profit. The worker, the working class is secondary to the product of its labor. The most production with the least pay. It is a system that thrives by exploitation of the majority for the benefit not of society but of the few, it is for selfish individualism in that sense.
Also, i have a question right back- why do NS or WNs associate communism with jewry when capitalism embodies the jewish spirit probably better than any other system?
Vindex
12-22-2005, 10:25 PM
Because there is a lot of rightwing bullshit going on, never tell a rightwinger Adolf said he was against communism and capitialism, they become upset.
Also, i have a question right back- why do NS or WNs associate communism with jewry when capitalism embodies the jewish spirit probably better than any other system?
Eisenhans
12-22-2005, 10:48 PM
I should have explained more clearly:
Not why communism, but why this corporate enslaved teenage "revolution!!11" communism which is so popular amongst the younger crowd.
Also, i have a question right back- why do NS or WNs associate communism with jewry when capitalism embodies the jewish spirit probably better than any other system?
Firstoff, Marx was a jew, therefore making Marxism (and Communism) a jewish invention. By the by, National Socialism does not support total capitalism.
In the ideal National Socialist society, the capitalism involved would not have anything ado with jewry, as the jews and any supporters thereof would be expelled from the system.
Roland
12-23-2005, 01:14 AM
If you were a communist then you should know better than to point out that communists use computers and other products produced by the working class. It doesn't matter if I use an Enron-made, energy-trading web-enabled vibrating dildo; the product was produced by the working class. Even if somehow, a CEO actually produced this product, it is merely a commodity, which is not inherently evil to a communist.
I functionally support Marxist Communism based on my opposition to free market dogmatism and the basic structure of the civilization that I participate in. I do have certain qualms with groups that call themselves communist (especially groups that are stuck in the 60s, such as MIM), and I also have problems with some of the fundamentals of Marxist philosophy. I can say, almost with certainty, that I would oppose a socialist state if it were formed, however I certainly would support the movement that would establish it.
Edit:
Having read the "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich", I understand that Hitler was quite the friend to private business.
Eisenhans
12-23-2005, 02:51 AM
Again, this is not what I was aiming for.
Let me put it so plain and simple that even a fetus could understand:
Why do those of you who proclaim to be communists yet just do nothing but type "AmeriKKa" and "pigdom" and just say "bush should die!!11l337" do that? Not all communists, but THOSE THAT DO WHAT I JUST STATED (such as Maoist, who posts here the word "AmeriKKa.") What point are you trying to make and what are you trying to achieve other than personal embarrasment because it appears you cannot spell?
Jimbo Gomez
12-23-2005, 10:01 AM
Mazdak: communism and capitalism are two sides of the same shekel.
Ixtab
12-23-2005, 10:05 AM
Mazdak: communism and capitalism are two sides of the same shekel.There is some truth to that. Under Capitalism, ownership is private but production becomes more and more a social affair; in Socialism, ownership becomes social, and social ownership on a mass scale is inconceivable without socialised production, which we can thank Capitalism for. Socialism merely completes the 'socialisation' of society created by capitalistic production methods. Capitalism paves the way for Socialism. Both are necessary and highly desirable phases of social evolution.
In a way, Socialism is the other side of the coin.
Berianidze
12-25-2005, 08:12 AM
I should have explained more clearly:
Not why communism, but why this corporate enslaved teenage "revolution!!11" communism which is so popular amongst the younger crowd.
I do not embrace this type of angsty communism at all, and it would not appear that anyone who posts here in the socialist paradise minus user "maoist" could be accused of such. This type of "communism" has developed along the lines of the New Left and has completely abandoned the original tenets and staples of Bolshevism and the communists of the Old Left. These people consider veganism and using terms like "wimmin" revolutionary, so they can hardly be taken as serious and are most certainly not comrades of mine.
B-Pep
12-25-2005, 07:41 PM
I have question for all you communists out there: Why? Now before you flame me and brand me infedel, I want you to hear me out and answer me in a civilized manner.
Why communism? Or rather, to be more specific, why this "teenage revolution" communism? What do you see that makes a difference when you type the word AmeriKKKa or say "bu5h n33ds 2 di3 !!!11?" I can understand that you believe in communism, and I, as a former communist, respect that, but I do not understand how you can practice it in the exact way you are preaching as the evils of capitalism (for instance, you are using the internet, a computer, and wearing clothes and eating food-all of which come from corporations which produce these things with you little "underlings" in mind).
So, why?
This could be turned right around on you.
You are sitting on a computer, probably manufactured by 'mongrels', possibly Intel operating system which is run by Jews and based in Israel, etc.
But in some ways. I agree with you about Communists in the west. I used to be a communist as well, but have abandoned it because it is a dogmatic pseudo-science that ignores culture and spirit of different peoples.
You also claim Marxism was invented by a Jew, this is a half truth. Although Marx was racially a jew, his parents were protestant converts, and he himself pointed out the power of international Jewry and its robbery in Poland, Prussia, etc. He wrote a whole pamphlet on Jewish self-observed supremacy, called "On The Jewish Question", where he attacks various bankers etc.
In fact, most original radicals felt this way. People like Proudhon, Bakunin, and of course Marx and Engels believed this.
You seem to be defending capitalism, as if that is any different. There are far more jews and jew lackeys involved in the foudning and establishing of this slave-system, than in Socialism.
Let's see, Ayn Rand, Friedman, Irving Kristol and I won't even begin naming their lackeys who adhere to their ideologies in the US and Western Europe.
The original post would have been better written:
I have question for maoist: Why? Now before you flame me and brand me infedel, I want you to hear me out and answer me in a civilized manner.
Why communism? Or rather, to be more specific, why this "teenage revolution" communism? What do you see that makes a difference when you type the word AmeriKKKa or say "bu5h n33ds 2 di3 !!!11?" I can understand that you believe in communism, and I, as a former communist, respect that, but I do not understand how you can practice it in the exact way you are preaching as the evils of capitalism (for instance, you are using the internet, a computer, and wearing clothes and eating food-all of which come from corporations which produce these things with you little "underlings" in mind).
So, why?
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