Fade turning Nazi ?

[tricknologist]

Brain-dead?? I'd rather have the brain-print of the simplest "lemming" as my Psychological Guard than a jumped up little Hitler like you.

source (http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=257355&page=4)


lol :rofl:

[Petyr Baelish]

Wouldn't be the first time ;)...

[tricknologist]

Heil the Phuhrer of the Phora.

[raven]

Didn't Fade get a mestizo pregnant? Correct me if I'm wrong but this is what I have heard from the rumour well.

[tricknologist]

Didn't Fade get a mestizo pregnant? Correct me if I'm wrong but this is what I have heard from the rumour well.

I heard that he got Carrigan pregnant, but I don't think she is meztiza.

[Jimbo Gomez]

He didn't knock up Carrigan.

[Petyr Baelish]

LOL, the memetics of rumor-mongering is fascinating.

This just in: Fade the Butcher impregnates Negro Jewish twin sisters from Ethiopia with quintuplets, converts to Islam.

[tricknologist]

He didn't knock up Carrigan.

Now I'm confused. Who did he knock up ?

[Daniel Shays]

Deconstructionist is FTB??

Unreal! :222:

[Fade the Butcher]

Didn't Fade get a mestizo pregnant? Correct me if I'm wrong but this is what I have heard from the rumour well.No. I am seeing someone else now. As for Carrigan, she lied about her true identity the entire time I was seeing her. I didn't even find out her real name until after the fact.

[raven]

Now I'm confused. Who did he knock up ?
Who did Fade knock up?
Was it Carrigan? Was it Starr? Maybe it was Pixi? Or was it Edana? :eek: Tune into an all-new episode next week!

All of this just sounds like a soap opera with all the rumours. :D

[Fade the Butcher]

For the record, I am not a Nazi. I hold the same views today that I did last year.

[tricknologist]

Deconstructuralist is FTB??

Unreal! :222:

He used that username over here for a while. It was pretty easy to figure out, especially with the copy and paste arguments he used on another thread. The John Dryden sig gave it away too.

[Petyr Baelish]

As for Carrigan, she lied about her true identity the entire time I was seeing her. I didn't even find out her real name until after the fact.


That's pretty fucked-up, dude. I would hope that she didn't lie about here age...

[tricknologist]

For the record, I am not a Nazi. I hold the same views today that I did last year.

I figured that, but the irony of it was too funny.

[Fade the Butcher]

Who did Fade knock up?My fiancée doesn't post on online forums. I met her shortly after I moved here last fall.

[raven]

Ah that clears it up then. I wonder how the Carrigan rumour started. Or were the guys just joking and I thought they were being serious? :D

[tricknologist]

"jumped up little Hitler"

Fade can use this as a custom user title. :D

[Anima Eternae]

I like JJT.

[il ragno]

Hey, Trickno, how's Jefferson Parish looking these days? Things back to normal, or nearly so?

[Starr]

Who did Fade knock up?
Was it Carrigan? Was it Starr? Maybe it was Pixi? Or was it Edana?

The secret is out. It is all of the above.

[raven]

The secret is out. It is all of the above.
Damn what a player.

[Ambrosio Spinola]

Fade is taking the good fight to the bowels of SF. Honestly I´m quite surprised at the apparent blindness of several of the posters there. The individual before the community...fark that. Liberal bastards.

Other than that I would like to also express my disgust at the orientation this thread took at the begining.

[infoterror]

I heard Fade impregnated JohnJoyTree anally while singing post-1996 black metal arias.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

[tricknologist]

Hey, Trickno, how's Jefferson Parish looking these days? Things back to normal, or nearly so?

More or less back to normal. The area I'm in (Elmwood) was pretty bad before, but all of the crack heads and whores were run out by the time I moved here.

[ironweed]

Kind of odd to see FTB arguing AGAINST free speech on a forum that has perma-banned him, isn't it? The fact that MuadDib is a complete tool and was of course in error when he banned him the first time doesn't make him less of a "Senior Moderator" at SF. (Ooh, ooh...look at me I'm not just a moderator, I'm a senior one. What's that all about?)

If this thread comes back to the attention of the staff @ SF, FtB will be given his walking papers in short order. And will be hoisted upon his own petard given the arguments he himself is making. :222:

[Petr]

Well, here's a no-blows-barred take on the freedom of speech in America-issue...


http://members.aol.com/jfk55/jfk2.html


"But these Whites see themselves as the "True White Men," God's chosen few--the Guardians of Wealth. They are the Whites who stole America from the pious White Christian settlers who first successfully forged new communities from the American wilderness. Our first settlers were not nation builders, were not revolutionaries seeking to build an empire unto themselves. They came to the "New World" only so that they might have the freedom to worship their Creator as the Holy Bible dictates, and not as a government or monarch dictates. Yet as word of the "New World's" wealth gradually traveled back to Britain, a new wave of settlers descended upon America's shores. These were White men not motivated by service to Christ, but by the possibility of forging a New World Order from the vast resources of America. To gain control of the New World Order, these Whites (all either deists or deluded Christian Freemasons) inspired a revolution. My friends, the American revolution was not fought for any Christian cause, but only so that a few wealthy Whites might keep all of the New World's riches under their own control.

..

"Some of you may be beginning to see the sinister long shadows of the Guardians of Wealth that still darken our nation to this day. Let us bring it all out into the open, then. Yes, this very same New World Order that we read so much about in the newspapers today--this threat to our nations' sovereignty that inspires right wing militias and "Patriotic Christians", this very same New World Order has been in existence for over 200 years already! Yes, America's "founding fathers," with their anti-Christ constitution insisting upon a separation of Church and state, these privileged few White men, the Guardians of Wealth, have already accomplished what the 1990s right wing militias fear most! It is a sad sight indeed to see a pot bellied White man costumed in a surplus store uniform dutifully toting his rifle into the woods every weekend thinking he is protecting a Christian nation against the New World Order. These hapless dupes are the progeny of the patsy founding father, Lee Harvey Oswald. For 200 years now the Guardians of Wealth have slowly been teaching the White man that the Satanic U.S. constitution is a Christian document, when the truth of it is that nearly every line of the accursed text violates the laws and commandments of the one true God of the universe as presented in our King James Bible. Wake up, Christian! God Almighty does not sanction free speech, God Almighty does not sanction freedom of religion, God Almighty does not sanction the will of the people, God almighty does not sanction man made laws! To those of you who call yourself Christian and feel duty bound to protect the constitution of the United States, I say "Get thee behind me, Satan."

O Stupid American! Dear God in Heaven open his eyes! Let him see what his precious constitution has wrought: Abortion, pornography, New Age spiritualism, racial hatred (O reader, what must God in heaven thought when it was penned in our "glorious" constitution that a Black--a human created by God--was, "in reality," only three-fifth's human!), broken families, lawlessness, an education system that claims man's father is not a Heavenly One, but a tree dwelling one--Dear God, why isn't the poison fruit of our constitution obvious to all?


Petr

[Fade the Butcher]

I used to believe in free speech, but I gradually came around to the conclusion that it was another irresponsible liberal idea. I have yet to see a free speech forum that hasn't degenerated into a vacuous sewer.

[Petr]

And here's more irreverent revisionism on American "founding fathers," this time from WN thinker "Yggdrasil":

http://home.ddc.net/ygg/cwar/pillar1.htm


In contrast, examine the statement authored by Thomas Jefferson and placed in our Declaration of Independence - it is the very premise upon which the American nation is founded: "We hold these truths to be self evident - that all men are created equal."

It is obviously and self evidently false.

Our own eyes tell us the contrary - that all men are profoundly unequal in their abilities and aptitudes, and that the groups to which they attach themselves display average inequalities as well.

It is clear that the slave owning Jefferson knew his statement was false at the time he made it.

So then the question is, why did he say it?

The personal driver behind Jefferson's statement was, of course, that all educated property owners were equal to their competitors, the hereditary aristocrats in Europe, and should share power with them.

But when we hear the straight forward declaration of self-interest, we recognize instantly that educated property owners are few in number and are utterly powerless without the support of the millions who are not educated and do not own property, but are forced to sell their labor. Thus, the educated property owners - the gentleman rentiers - have no claim to political legitimacy unless they can enlist the support of those who are propertyless and uneducated.

The gentlemen rentiers of America's founding must fight a war against the Universalist Empire of Britain and cannot do it alone. And as the gentleman is inherently manipulative and deceptive, he makes an open ended promise that he knows is based on a wildly and obviously false notion that all men are created equal. It results in an implied promise that Jefferson knows will be utterly impossible to keep. But Jefferson makes the deceptive and manipulative promise anyway, because it is in his individual interest to make it.

The problem with his statement, and the proof of its essential deceptive nature is the boundless potential for destruction held within it.

If all men are created equal, then why should Jefferson and the other founders be rich while most of their countrymen are poor?

At bottom, the statement that all men are created equal justifies the conquest of the entire world under a single empire, with the imposition of a single language and laws. After all, if all men are created equal, then the numerous local hues and divisions between us are all irrational and should be repressed by force. Ultimately those differences should be blended out of existence.

It is a doctrine that gives rise to endless opportunities to profit from deception and manipulation, setting set one tribe against another with appeals to equality, while allowing confiscation of the produce of the hardworking and productive by appeals to equality interests of the less productive and less hardworking.

Of course, the Inner Party would spot the opportunities immediately upon their emancipation in the 19th Century, and exploit them with devastating effect in the 20th.

The opportunities for profit are endless. All it takes is a deceptive and manipulative "gentleman" to manage the promises, metering them out as the occasion demands.


Petr

[Fade the Butcher]

Americans have a long history of appealing to liberal political principles to justify their own lust for money and power.

[raven]

I used to believe in free speech, but I gradually came around to the conclusion that it was another irresponsible liberal idea. I have yet to see a free speech forum that hasn't degenerated into a vacuous sewer.
Fade, free speech (perhaps on the internet yes but even then the police tries to restrict that even whenever they can) doesn't even exist so how is it a liberal idea? If free speech existed why are these same liberals sending people to jail for "hate speech"? Personally I am in support of free speech and I feel that we do not have this right even though politicians like to brag that we have free speech.

[Jimbo Gomez]

I'm a pragmatic. We all know against who the anti-free speach laws in Europe are directed, so I am fanatically pro free speach.

[Fade the Butcher]

I think you are confusing hate speech with hate crimes. We don't have much of a problem with the former in the U.S.

[Jimbo Gomez]

I'm not confusing them, we have laws against hatespeach where I am.

[Fade the Butcher]

I was referring to raven. And that's another problem I have with free speech. Meritocracy suffers from the same flaw. It's self destructive.

[Empress Cheesatine]

Why does everyone hate JohnJoyTree? I admit he's kind of a mismatch with white nationalism as he seems to defend Jews regularly.

[Fade the Butcher]

JJT is a libertarian masquerading as a racial nationalist. I don't hate the guy, personally. I just don't believe racialism can be reconciled with liberalism.

[Empress Cheesatine]

I'm a pragmatic. We all know against who the anti-free speach laws in Europe are directed, so I am fanatically pro free speach.

Yes. Such laws are used as a method of coercion and social control. Even the US has laws which impose penalties for speaking. Laws for such crimes as "ethnic intimidation" which is defined vaguely and broadly, by my understanding.

[Empress Cheesatine]

JJT is a libertarian masquerading as a racial nationalist. I don't hate the guy, personally. I just don't believe racialism can be reconciled with liberalism.

I hate libertarians. If he's anything like American libertarians then Id advocate his being hung upside down by his scrotum and flogged mercilessly by illegal aliens.

[raven]

I think you are confusing hate speech with hate crimes. We don't have much of a problem with the former in the U.S.
I am not confusing hate speech with hate crimes. Then again I live in Canada and we do have "Hate Speech" laws here (ie. Zundel). However in the US don't you have similar (but obviously less strict than Canada and Europe) "hate speech" laws?

[Helios Panoptes]

I am not confusing hate speech with hate crimes. Then again I live in Canada and we do have "Hate Speech" laws here (ie. Zundel). However in the US don't you have similar (but obviously less strict than Canada and Europe) "hate speech" laws?

In the US, you can say what you like as long as it doesn't involve slandering individuals. This includes holocaust denial, holding neo-nazi rallies, etc. There is a lot more freedom than in Europe and Canada.

[raven]

Wasn't Zundel jailed in the United States as well though? And what about David Duke and Don Black? They also sport criminal records (though it could be for other things?)

[Helios Panoptes]

Wasn't Zundel jailed in the United States as well though? And what about David Duke and Don Black? They also sport criminal records (though it could be for other things?)

None of those men were prosecuted on the grounds of hate speech violation. I do not believe that Zundel was jailed, either. Rather, he was deported for an immigration violation.

[Leif]

I used to believe in free speech, but I gradually came around to the conclusion that it was another irresponsible liberal idea. I have yet to see a free speech forum that hasn't degenerated into a vacuous sewer.

Question; did these "free speech forums" degenerate because of their free-speech policy, or their incompetent owners?

[Gorilla]

If Fade is the guy I heard about a few years back, he might well have nazi blood in his veins...

[Niko Bellic]

I love reading the opinions expressed here about the different kinds of authoritarian government. What's your flavor of tyranny?

And of course, I'm sure that each individual who would like to see greater control over the lives of the people by a government personally qualifies as an elite member of the particular form they would like it to take. :rolleyes:

[Crowley]

In the US, you can say what you like as long as it doesn't involve slandering individuals.

There are many ways to get in trouble by way of speech in the US these days. For instance, say you are eating a good dinner in a part of downtown that has a lot of street people in it, perhaps because your girlfriend has a rent controlled apartment in the neighborhood. You are walking home carrying a to go carton planning on giving it to a homeless person you like, when suddenly some aggressive black demands the food and you ignore him, then he goes off on you, screaming at you for blocks, and screaming at you and your woman while you attempt to hail a cab, and then he starts threatening her and you. You as a white man are in a very delicate situation here. You must be very careful how you respond to this threatening piece of human waste. If you lose your temper and say "fucking nigger" while you punch him you can be charged with a hate crime, even though he has been following you and your girlfriend, calling you and her an endless stream of racial names, you as a white man are the one that can get in trouble for what you say in the situation. It is oppressive if you stop and think about it, a decent, law abiding, taxpaying white man, attacked or harassed on the street by black scum that live off your tax money to begin with, it is you, white man, who must be careful what he says while defending himself.

The variation on the same theme can happen at work. It is quite possible to get into a confrontation with a black coworker and have him call you a racial name and if you call him "nigger" in return, all manner of special gears start turning with the intention of destroying you, the white man.

[leondegrance]

Why does everyone hate JohnJoyTree? I admit he's kind of a mismatch with white nationalism as he seems to defend Jews regularly.

I don't see JJT as defending Jews. He just butts heads with folks that make Jews into some type of mythical boogeyman. IMO he has a much more realistic racialist outlook.

[Fade the Butcher]

I just composed a detailed exposition of how free speech forums naturally degenerate over time but lost it because my cookie timed out.

[Anarch]

Damn. I'll set to work on making cookies last longer. Our reading of detailed expositions on interesting subjects must not be held up by pathetic cookies :p

[Anarch]

Cookies now last for 2000 instead of 900 seconds.

[Starr]

I think you are confusing hate speech with hate crimes. We don't have much of a problem with the former in the U.S.

You may not really get arrested for what is called "hate speech" here, yet, but if you get into an altercation with a non-white and call them certain names, you are going to probably be in a lot more trouble then you would normally be for the same offense. So, in that sense, hate speech is an issue.

Edit: I see Bardamu already beat me to this with a much better post.:o

[infoterror]

Free Speech is a great goal if everyone is of the same quality and on the same general page.

Otherwise, it turns into a group blog like WikiPedia.

[Fade the Butcher]

Let's not drag up old soap operas.